Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-23 Thread George Smiley
Dear Peggy It would take days to bridge gaps between the theoretical, the industry perspective, and the grossly different realities that stem from conflicts of interest, generally self interest between conservationists, industry shills (foresters), the industry players and the political machines.

[Biofuel] Genencor Biomass to Ethanol

2004-10-23 Thread MH
Genencor Celebrates Major Progress in the Conversion of Biomass to Ethanol Source: Genencor International, Inc. Oct 21, 2004 http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041021/sfth020_1.html Reduction in Enzyme Cost Overcomes Significant Obstacle in Alternative Fuel Production PALO ALTO, Calif.,

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry-socialism?

2004-10-23 Thread Lillie Bennett
Lillie - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry-socialism? : : There is only one reason I will vote for Bush, extra money in my pocket. That's the reason that people

[Biofuel] Biodiesel Tax Incentive Signed into Law!

2004-10-23 Thread Richard U
This came to me via another list, and it checks out. go Google HR.4520 Dear Biodiesel Supporter: I am happy to share the great news with you that today President Bush signed into law the bill containing the biodiesel tax incentive we have worked so hard for during the last several years. The

Re: [Biofuel] Pressurized process. - Was : No Wash Biodiesel Process.

2004-10-23 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Keith and DHAJOGLO ; DHAJOGLO Wrote : This is true also though it should be cautioned that a closed reactor with enough head space and enough temp (say, 75 deg C) and you will get methanol vapor from your solution at the top and the reaction will not proceed as far. Keith wrote :

Re: [Biofuel] No Wash Biodiesel Process.

2004-10-23 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Luc ; Thanks for your response. Yes those totes are available locally for around $50. They are quite convenient with their portability. I used one a few years ago in a small roadside motorcycle washing operation. I plan to include rainwater catching on all buildings. The problem is that

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Michael Fleetwood
I built one using a long pneumatic cylinder - tried using a jack but found it hard to get enough speed and momentum to the wedge to make it effective in splitting the log. The whole project turned out to be a lot more expensive and difficult than first thought although it does work well -

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-23 Thread Appal Energy
Not much need for anyone to disagree about the politics at hand if they were to evaluate everything face forward rather than hoping against hope. I was speaking with a member of the ROTC brass last week. While he seemed rather complacent in justifying his support of the president, he did

Re: [Biofuel] Kerry left leaning Polls

2004-10-23 Thread robert luis rabello
To be honest, I prefer the option of None of the above are suitable, please go back and try again. That was my line, I believe. Since we're not given that option, I will vote for the one who is not evil but has a chance to win. At least this time, it's not a lesser of the two

Re: [Biofuel] oil price over the years

2004-10-23 Thread robert luis rabello
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/20/ Message #20, of 39,388 (below) - the 1980 price is the spike you menion, Since this early message a lot of people, including Americans, have posted messages saying US oil prices are way too low (what all OECD nations except the US also say), and

Re: [Biofuel] what are the on about?

2004-10-23 Thread frag lag
From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] what are the on about? Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:55:10 -0500 This is simple pyrolysis. One heats up any plant or amimal matter, in the absence of oxygen. Another term for the same

Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency

2004-10-23 Thread DB
running 50/50 cause of the warranty issue. We have 40,000 mi so far no problems. Just be sure to water wash your batches. - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] VW TDI efficiency

Re: [Biofuel] what are the on about?

2004-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
so what are the advantages compared to our way? The advantages are that it's expensive and capital-intensive, so it can easily be controlled by the powers-that-be, it's no threat to the status quo, business as usual. Those are the disadvantages of our way - all these out-of-control hairy

RE: [Biofuel] Methanol update

2004-10-23 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Peggy ; Thanks for your post. I am tip-toeing here a little because I would never say I know as much as you about the ethanol/methanol debate. When someone knows more than me, my tendency is usually to shut up and listen. Because I fully and absolutely intend to build a still and distill

[Biofuel] Lost in Twitland

2004-10-23 Thread knoton
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/20263 Demian http://www.knoton.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at

[Biofuel] japan earthquake

2004-10-23 Thread Andres Yver
You ok? I've been through earthquakes that strong and it is a powerful experience. gambatte o kudasareta andres ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Friedrich Friesinger
Hey, how about an old fashion Ax,thats how i doe it in Canada! Fritz - Original Message - From: Michael Fleetwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies) Hi. I built one

RE: [Biofuel] Biodiesel Process Agitation Question.

2004-10-23 Thread dermot
Hi Luc, My experience with violent washing of biodiesel was disastrous. I used pump washing. I had a complete reaction and I still ended up with emulsion. The first wash especially has to be gentle. Regards Dermot -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Kim Garth Travis
older. I too used an axe in Canada, but the maul works better. I really would like an alternative though. Bright Blessings, Kim At 07:44 AM 10/23/2004, you wrote: Hey, how about an old fashion Ax,thats how i doe it in Canada! Fritz - Original Message - From: Michael Fleetwood

[Biofuel] Conversation with a Conservative -was: Kerry left leaning Polls

2004-10-23 Thread MH
I sent in my ballot today. I had to hold my nose to vote, and the envelope stank all the way to the letter box! (I've never voted for a democrat in my life. . . This was a depressing experience for me.) It would appear the company you keep may also feel the same, si? [Biofuel]

RE: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Mel Riser
There is a GREAT article in Home Power about a family in Colorado that lives off grid and they made a Solar powered logging bugging. Basically an old truck bed converted to a trailer with batteries and solar panels. The run electric chain saws off of it and they converted their bandsaw mill

Re: [Biofuel] what are the on about?

2004-10-23 Thread Appal Energy
making biodiesel via esterification/transesterification. You can use it to degrade tires, plastic, organic wastes and biomass in general into useable gases and liquid fuels. The tough pill to swallow is the intense energy inputs and mechanical costs. But then again, recovering energy and

Re: [Biofuel] Lost in Twitland

2004-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
Demian http://www.knoton.com Worth posting in full Demian, below. From the archives: Results of previous PIPA/Knowledge Networks poll: - A 57% majority believed Iraq was either directly involved in carrying out the 9/11 attacks or had provided substantial support to al-Qaeda - 82%

Re: [Biofuel] japan earthquake

2004-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
Thanks for your concern, that's very kind of you. Keith, You ok? Yes thanks, we're fine, it was far from here, at Niigata, north of Tokyo. Two deaths, more than 90 hurt, but there's danger of landslides following the typhoon, everything's still soaked. A bullet train got derailed, or

[Biofuel] Reaction from the US to the Guardian's Clark County project

2004-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
Guardian Unlimited | US elections 2004 | Reaction from the US to the Guardian's Clark County project Last week G2 launched Operation Clark County to help readers have a say in the American election by writing to undecided voters in the crucial state of Ohio. In the first three days, more

[Biofuel] Plan Colombia Targets Oil, Not Drugs

2004-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
Plan Colombia Targets Oil, Not Drugs By James E. Garcia, PoliticoMagazine.com. Posted July 31, 2001. The U.S. imports more oil from Latin America than from the Persian Gulf. So it makes sense that Plan Colombia is as much about oil and trade as it is about drugs. Most Americans may not

[Biofuel] Compromise, Hell!

2004-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
Orion Orion Magazine November | December 2004 Wendell Berry Compromise, Hell! Economic WMDs are being used against our people in a version of freedom that makes greed the dominant virtue WE ARE DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY -- I mean our country itself, our land. This is a terrible thing to

Re: [Biofuel] Kerry left leaning Polls

2004-10-23 Thread Brian
- Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To be honest, I prefer the option of None of the above are suitable, please go back and try again. That was my line, I believe. Was it? I couldn't remember where I had heard it, but loved it as soon as I did.

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol update

2004-10-23 Thread Greg Harbican
I can understand that. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Guag Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 05:06 Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Methanol update SNIP Sorry for my long reply. I am trying to explain myself without offending anyone.

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Greg Harbican
I have been experimenting with something similar, although, using a 1 1/2 ton hydraulic jack ( hand pumped ). I need to work on the frame, but, the hydraulic jack, just drives the wedge right through the wood. Since my fireplace can only take about a 18 inch log in the back, this is the max

[Biofuel] Natural Phenomena or Divine Manifestation?

2004-10-23 Thread Legal Eagle
http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/question.html#mark Luc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Darryl McMahon
Friedrich Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, how about an old fashion Ax,thats how i doe it in Canada! Fritz I've done that too, and it's my general preference. However, we now have some hardwood logs that are about 18-24 inches across (half a metre or more), and green, so

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Darryl McMahon
Thanks for the idea Greg. I will have a couple of 4-ton hydraulic jacks to hand next summer, after we finish building the foundation under the summer place. I really need to get the welder wired up, so I can build a frame and bed for the log and splitting head. Hmmm, I wonder how portable

Re: [Biofuel] Lost in Twitland

2004-10-23 Thread dwoodard
In the words of Adolf Hitler, If you tell a big enough lie, people will believe it. Some years back, the U.S, had laws against media concentration. These laws were rescinded; perhaps for a reason. I smell intent, and conspiracy. If the enemies of freedom and the constitutional republic can think

[Biofuel] 31 Similarities Between Hitler and President Bush

2004-10-23 Thread knoton
[1]1 Similarities Between Hitler and President Bush by Edward Jayne [2]www.dissidentvoice.org August 29, 2004 (revised from an earlier version posted March 29, 2003) When President Bush decided to invade Iraq, his spokesmen began comparing Saddam Hussein to Adolph Hitler,

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread MH
http://www.harborfreight.com Find a Keyword LOG 12 items returned Manually operated -- 6 TON MINI LOG SPLITTER $59.99 TWO SPEED, 10 TON HYDRAULIC LOG SPLITTER $149.99 TWO SPEED, 10 TON HYDRAULIC LOG SPLITTER $159.99 4 TON ELECTRIC LOG SPLITTER $199.99 Thanks for the idea

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Greg Harbican
No problem. How about a large coil spring ( for gates ) instead of a rope?They normally run around $20.00 or so ( last I checked was about 1 1/2 - 2 yrs ago ). Greg H. - Original Message - From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 23,

Re: [Biofuel] japan earthquake

2004-10-23 Thread frag lag
here's hoping that it's over... From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] japan earthquake Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:49:45 +0900 Greetings Andres Thanks for your concern, that's very kind of you. Keith, You ok? Yes

Re: [Biofuel] what are the on about?

2004-10-23 Thread frag lag
about enviro impact now) From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] what are the on about? Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2004 10:35:19 -0400 Pyrolysis is not limitted to a single feedstock such as the practice of making biodiesel via

[Biofuel] biodiesel process agitation question

2004-10-23 Thread DB
When you end up with emulsion, just store it away., the water will eventually settle out, although it will take about 4 weeks.punasurfer ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Fritz
Hey Darryl, its easyer when frozen Fritz - Original Message - From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies) Friedrich Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-23 Thread Party of Citizens
Speaking of land fills, any opinions on Mount Trashmore in Michigan? It is a very nice ski hill we hear, built up thanks to a lot of Canadian trash exported from Ontario. The liners are supposed to prevent leaching. Do they work? If so, here's your trivial pursuit question for the day: Since the

Re: [Biofuel] japan earthquake

2004-10-23 Thread Keith Addison
You really got a bad year. here's hoping that it's over... Here's hoping... But we've been lucky ourselves, very little damage, just FAR too much rain! The village was lucky too, some damage, not too severe, and one grandfather farmer injured in the typhoon, he's still unconscious, I

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry-Marshall Plan

2004-10-23 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, After reading of operation keelhaul, I now longer can use the phrase Marshall Plan in a way synonymous with good actions. Doug, N0LKK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christ is not a Republican nor is he a Democrat. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system

Re: [Biofuel] what are the on about?

2004-10-23 Thread Appal Energy
scales out and measure. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: frag lag [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] what are the on about? would pyrolysis use less energy then to bring it to a landfill? (not talking

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry-Marshall Plan

2004-10-23 Thread Appal Energy
kin. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Doug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry-Marshall Plan Hi, After reading of operation keelhaul, I now longer can use the phrase

Re: [Biofuel] Lost in Twitland

2004-10-23 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lost in Twitland In the words of Adolf Hitler, If you tell a big enough lie, people will believe it. It actually wasn't Hitler that said that, but it

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Doug Younker
If one where to pump hydraulics by hand it would be nice to have a pump that would pump at a low volume/low pressure to take up the slack and be able to switch to low volume/high pressure to actually split the wood. I wonder if anything like that exists as a stock item? Doug - Original

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Employ springs to draw the wedge back to start. Trick is to find that spring that is strong enough to do the job and not appreciably add to the splitting stroke effort. Doug - Original Message - From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday,

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-23 Thread Doug Younker
Well... that answered my question, didn't it Doug - Original Message - From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies) : : TWO SPEED, 10 TON HYDRAULIC LOG SPLITTER