Re: [Biofuel] Jelled ethanol with charcoal and cellulose:solid biofuel

2005-04-27 Thread Michael Redler
"Ideal would be the heat of the stove itself" Has anyone considered a stirling powered fan? http://www.stirlingengine.com/ Mike Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Greetings, >Regarding Tom Reeds woodgas camp stove and its requirement for a >primary air source (battery powered), what a

RE: [Biofuel] Changfa diesel generator

2005-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
John, A tractor type muffler is large enough to not lose power and a good idea. You can get a used one or make one yourself. You can also use one for the air intake to the box, the cellar situation is a bit more sensitive than a small shed. When I get some noise date, we will know better what we

[Biofuel] B100 DROPS BELOW PETRO PRICES IN AZ!?

2005-04-27 Thread Patrick Campbell
charging $3.36 a gallon. I filling what I could afford but this usually meant 5 gallons per 30 gallons at most. Somehow they are now honoring some sort of $1/gallon tax credit from the Fed. and so the new price is $2.36. This seems too good to be true but I will be visiting them at lunch t

Re: [Biofuel] Changfa diesel generator

2005-04-27 Thread JD2005
This is a good one thanks Doug although the foam on it's own or a foam on it's own may be just what I was looking for. I will be moving the generator tomorrow, trying to, so will get an idea of what kind of full on sound proofing I'm going to need. JD2005 - Original Message - From: Doug

[Biofuel] Changfa Diesel Generator - Huussshhhh

2005-04-27 Thread Daniel Crandall
We, in the Marine industry, are always enclosing our generators. In fact, most of the commercially available Marine Diesel generators come with enclosures. Obviously, if you are using a cooling method other than air-flow, this is possible. Rather than me re-design what we do here on e-mail mig

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
What were they adding? Who is they? Where was this being done? Without those trivial little details, your message does little to increase the signal to noise ratio on the list. jh What is you basis for the comment? What we want to know, is what proof do you have for making it?We w

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread bob allen
I will bow out. Michael Redler wrote: Bob, "me too"? Then why are you quoting me in your response instead of using your own words? Because you thought you'd be clever by suggesting we "Instead gather around a nice red nichrome wire". ...not funny of clever. You and Hakan -- what's wit

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread dwoodard
I think we've dealt with this issue. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archi

Re: [Biofuel] Harbor Freight Pump Upgrade needed!

2005-04-27 Thread ROY Washbish
Won't this pulley arrangement cause the pump to run twice (or so) the speed of the motor? Do I have thoughts right? ~BEST~ Roy ardis streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Kevin, My personal advise to you is to get a pump that is truly rated for the work at hand.A gear pump for Graingers is a g

Re: [Biofuel] Changfa diesel generator

2005-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
Kirk, You brought up something very important and the reason for that many make vibration insulation does not work. To have an effective insulation, it must work like a spring with space for both upward and downward movement. In many cases the designer do not realize this and over dimension i

Re: [Biofuel] Jelled ethanol with charcoal and cellulose

2005-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
Keith Some other jelled gelled alcohol ideas -- Zen Gelled Alcohol Stoves - Sterno-like Stoves Jelled/Gelled Alcohol http://zenstoves.net/Sterno.htm Extreme do it yourselfers can make their own gelled fuel at home with alcohol and calcium acetate (C4H6CaO4). Either methanol or ethanol can be

RE: [Biofuel] Changfa diesel generator

2005-04-27 Thread John and Paula Chase
Hi, we operate a Changfa 16-18 hours daily. Ours is in a small 10'x10' insulated building. I converted the muffler system to an agricultural tractor muffler, so the only noise from the gen set is the sound of a tractor muffler (low hum and no "engine noise" at all). john -Original Messag

Re: [Biofuel] Jelled ethanol with charcoal and cellulose:solid biofuel

2005-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
Regarding Tom Reeds woodgas camp stove and its requirement for a primary air source (battery powered), what about a mechanical windup clockwork system to drive the fan. You can visit the web site www.freeplayenergy.com to see what I mean. Have fun! Derrick Greetings Derrick Thanks for the

[Biofuel] H2 fireplace image

2005-04-27 Thread mkmiller
Here is the link to the image of the Hydrogen fireplace. http://www.heatnglo.com/news/index.asp# As you can see, it is not a typical fireplace. I do not see this device being used by anyone interested in actually heating a room. It is just another vain product to be sold to wealthy people. M

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, Are you trying to shift my postings about the subject matter to a much wider hydrogen discussion? I said that I try to look at things like the described device "Hydrogen Fire Place" and the "Hydrogen Hummer" with humor and keep it apart from eventual serious discussions about "Hydrogen

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Greg Harbican
What is you basis for the comment? What we want to know, is what proof do you have for making it?We want to know, because it sounds like something out of 'Alice in Wonderland' Greg H. - Original Message - From: "JD2005" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, A

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Michael Redler
I started out with a simple statement about fireplaces and how they "aren't the first choice for heating one's home". That is to say that I don't care what people use as a "fireplace". Wood, gas, HYDROGEN; The point that I was trying to make is that when it comes to a fireplace, I'm not sure h

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Kirk McLoren
And you could quadruple the space heat by using such high quality energy as the electrolyzer uses to run a heat pump. Using electricity even as resistance heat is wasteful. To halve it in an electrolyzer compounds the problem. Commerce is not the test. We have all seen foolish products that are

[Biofuel] BioDiesel in San Antonio Texas

2005-04-27 Thread Larry Foran
I am new to the quest for alternative fuels and would like to know if there are any groups/individuals already producing Homebrewed Biodiesel in San Antonio, Texas. Thanks for the help. Larry ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/m

[Biofuel] USAID: Making the world hungry for GM crops

2005-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
25 April 2005 http://www.grain.org/go/usaid MAKING THE WORLD HUNGRY FOR GM CROPS The United States government is forcing genetically modified (GM) crops onto countries around the world. A new report [1] by GRAIN shows how the US agency for international development (USAID) is a central part

Re: [Biofuel] Changfa diesel generator

2005-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
Doug, Because chances are that it is not that effective as sound insulation and rather the opposite, it will work like a microphone membrane. Sweden has been leading in this field and it is a lot of manufacturing of Ytong around the world, on license from the Swedish company. Again, 35+ years ag

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Michael Redler
Bob, "me too"? Then why are you quoting me in your response instead of using your own words? Because you thought you'd be clever by suggesting we "Instead gather around a nice red nichrome wire". ...not funny of clever. You and Hakan -- what's with you guys? Mike bob allen <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [Biofuel] Changfa diesel generator

2005-04-27 Thread Kirk McLoren
You need to control air temperature as well. As for vibration there are rubber clad cork or polymer isolation mounts that are used by installers of equipment such as air conditioning packages. Each square inch supports a certain weight so you can determine what you need. Kirk JD2005 <[EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Changfa diesel generator

2005-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
JD, It is good that it is in the cellar, that make it easy to do vibration insulation, which is dependent of the mass of foundation. I need noise data, you should be able to get it from Changfa. It does not matter, but dB in octave band with spread diagram is best. Minimum you get is always dB(

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Michael Redler
Hakan, I am a design engineer and inventor with dual degrees in mechanical and electrical engineering. I'm not telling you this to impress you, boost my self-image or promote college as the only conduit for knowledge. But, I want you to know that I've made an effort to understand how things w

Re: [Biofuel] Changfa diesel generator

2005-04-27 Thread Doug Foskey
Why not make a Cellular concrete housing? Cellular concrete is made by adding foam (which looks like shaving foam) to a cement mortar mix. Check or other googled resources for more info. regards Doug On Thursday 28 April 2005 4:53, JD2005 wrote: > Great Chears Hakan; > > It's the Changfa

Re: [Biofuel] Harbor Freight Pump Upgrade needed!

2005-04-27 Thread ardis streeter
Hi Kevin, My personal advise to you is to get a pump that is truly rated for the work at hand.A gear pump for Graingers is a great pump to use for your process. Yoy will need an electric motor closed design and two pullys,a belt to drive the pump at the correct speed.If the motor is rated

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread bob allen
um, whatever floats your boat Bob. We've been talking about the efficiency/effectiveness of H2 in a fireplace me too , the value of a fireplace as an efficient source of heat me too and power sources for electrolysis. me too. It seems a little silly to use electricity, whatever the sour

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread John Hayes
Who is they? Where was this being done? Without those trivial little details, your message does little to increase the signal to noise ratio on the list. jh JD2005 wrote: Hi Bob; There's not anything much more to add only that they were putting mildly radioactive material in washing powd

Re: [Biofuel] Changfa diesel generator

2005-04-27 Thread JD2005
Great Chears Hakan; It's the Changfa engine from a Jetman 12KVA generating set and it's very noisy.Presumably, because it's such a big engine.It's not, currently, sound proofed in any way but there is a baffle on the exhaust. It looks exactly like the picture on the first page of www.utt

Re: [Biofuel] Jelled ethanol with charcoal and cellulose:solid biofuel

2005-04-27 Thread Derrick Grunewald
Greetings, Regarding Tom Reeds woodgas camp stove and its requirement for a primary air source (battery powered), what about a mechanical windup clockwork system to drive the fan. You can visit the web site www.freeplayenergy.com to see what I mean. Have fun! Derrick Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread JD2005
Hi Bob; There's not anything much more to add only that they were putting mildly radioactive material in washing powder to make the laundry dry more quickly.:-) JD2005 - Original Message - From: bob allen > whoa doggies, could you elaborate on this a little? > > > JD2005 wrote: > > I d

Re: [Biofuel] Jelled ethanol with charcoal and cellulose

2005-04-27 Thread MH
Some other jelled gelled alcohol ideas -- Zen Gelled Alcohol Stoves - Sterno-like Stoves Jelled/Gelled Alcohol http://zenstoves.net/Sterno.htm Extreme do it yourselfers can make their own gelled fuel at home with alcohol and calcium acetate (C4H6CaO4). Either methanol or ethanol can be

Re: [Biofuel] Harbor Freight Pump Upgrade needed!

2005-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hello, I've been using the Harbor Freight 1" 1/2 hp clear water pump in a closed reactor Appleseed setup Good luck! for some test batches Approximate 37 gal of WVO + 7 gal methoxide =42 g in a 50 gal reactor). The pump is struggling to pump oil-lift to the top of the reactor (Water heate

Re: [Biofuel] Orange an not so clear biodiesel

2005-04-27 Thread Keith Addison
It seems you're making good progress, well done! Clarity can take a little time (with biodiesel and in all human affairs, LOL!). If it's taking really a long time maybe there's a problem. Try heating it to 45-50 deg C and let it cool in a vented container. If it clouds up again on cooling, d

Re: [Biofuel] Harbor Freight Pump Upgrade needed!

2005-04-27 Thread Michael Fleetwood
I have had a capacitor failure on this type of pump it had only done a couple of batches - I got a warranty replacement but wonder if temperature rise from pumping hot oil rather than cold water was a factor - it occurred on a very hot day. Mike in Australia. At 11:14 PM 26/04/2005 -0400,

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, It was not really meant as ridicule of anything else than the contraption as such. It was a way to tell you that this thing probably will sell good enough to make profits. It is almost impossible to look at this thing with anything more than humor and if it is anyone out there that belive

Re: [Biofuel] sillyness-was- hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi, I do not think that we will produce hydrogen for filling up cars, from wind, PV and may I also add hydro. The latter because the Norwegians already offer solutions. Hydrogen from renewable is needed and best used in hydrogen powered electricity generation for peak demand and periods of low o

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Michael Redler
Point taken. Mike --- robert luis rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Redler wrote: > > I don't see conflicting opinions. I just see > different motives. > > > > Agreed; H2 via electrolysis is not efficient by > most comparisons. But, since when is a fireplace > anyone's first choice

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Michael Redler
OK Hakan. You will notice that I was trying to keep an open mind to a new idea. I can say with confidence that I have no plans to put anything other than wood in my fireplace. But, if you enjoy blind siding members of this group with juvenile remarks like "but who cares, it is the modern way of

[Biofuel] sillyness-was- hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
Hi Hakan, Well I think that it is silly to use fossil produced electricity for an electrolizer to burn hydrogen in a "fireplace". Not efficient at all and a waste of juice. There is nothing renewable about that idea. I also just learned that the company has been having problems with the unit

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-27 Thread Michael Redler
um, whatever floats your boat Bob. We've been talking about the efficiency/effectiveness of H2 in a fireplace, the value of a fireplace as an efficient source of heat and power sources for electrolysis. But, if you want to change the subject to color, or wires (or whatever), that's OK with me too

[Biofuel] Harbor Freight Pump Upgrade needed!

2005-04-27 Thread Kevin Shea
Hello, I've been using the Harbor Freight 1" 1/2 hp clear water pump in a closed reactor Appleseed setup for some test batches Approximate 37 gal of WVO + 7 gal methoxide =42 g in a 50 gal reactor). The pump is struggling to pump oil-lift to the top of the reactor (Water heater). In fact the

[Biofuel] Orange an not so clear biodiesel

2005-04-27 Thread Theo Chadzichristos
Hi everyone, Iâve been making a lot of progress but have run into some trouble. Iâve been doing a lot of semi-small batches before I do a larger 35gallon batch in my processor. I get oil that only needs between 2-3 ml to turn my phenolphthalein a light pink so it comes out to 5.5-6.5 grams of NaO

Re: [Biofuel] Changfa diesel generator

2005-04-27 Thread Hakan Falk
I can look at it and maybe come up with some advices, but need information of what you mean by sound proof first. I also like to know the environment, how it is placed etc. Describe the problems. Hakan At 02:12 PM 4/27/2005, you wrote: Anybody know how to sound proof a Changfa diesel genera