[Biofuel] Revolution in Bolivia: The government's failure to nationalize its natural gas industry has led to an explosive situation

2005-06-16 Thread Keith Addison

http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/2158/
In These Times
June 15, 2005

Revolution in Bolivia
The government's failure to nationalize its natural gas industry has 
led to an explosive situation


By Ryan Grim

Tension is on the rise.

Bolivian legislators abandoned a besieged La Paz on June 9 to convene 
in Sucre, nearly 500 miles to the southeast, in order to select a new 
president. But demonstrators had other ideas. Blockades were lifted 
so that truckloads of protesters could race to Sucre to prevent 
parliament from naming right-wing Senate leader Hormando Vaca Diez as 
the successor to the ousted Carlos Mesa. Mayors of La Paz and El Alto 
announced hunger strikes to oppose Vaca Diez, who was supported by 
only 16 percent of Bolivians in a recent poll.


Parliament's morning session was cancelled as miners, coca growers 
and other demonstrators battled police in the streets, leading to one 
death, labor leader Juan Coro, who was shot in the chest by police. 
According to news reports, several legislators urged the cancellation 
of the session so that they could fly out of Sucre before 
demonstrators took over the airport. They didn't move quickly enough. 
In protest of Vaca Diez, airport workers went on strike and the 
airport was shut down. Now stuck in Sucre, parliament met near 
midnight and gave in. Vaca Diez--yes, his name is Ten Cow--resigned 
his constitutional right to ascend to the throne, as did the next in 
line, Marlo Cossio. At 11:47 p.m., the man whom protesters had been 
demanding for president, Supreme Court leader Eduardo Rodriguez, was 
sworn in.


Since then, blockades have been lifted along with tensions, and 
Rodriguez has vowed to call new elections for president and congress 
within six months. Bolivia has been locked in an ideological 
stalemate for several years now, but the wind seems to be blowing 
leftward after the last several weeks. Although the crisis is 
simmering for now, the main thrust of the demonstrators' demand has 
not yet been met.


The uprising revolved around control of Bolivia's vast and recently 
discovered reserves of natural gas, valued at more than $250 
billion--10 times the nation's annual GDP. On May 16, the Bolivian 
government raised taxes on foreign companies who exploit the 
reserves. Indigenous groups took to the streets, claiming the bill 
didn't go far enough and calling for full nationalization of the 
industry. Evo Morales, leader of the strongest indigenous party in 
the nation--Movement Toward Socialism, or MAS--initially rejected 
calls for nationalization, asking instead for higher taxes. Caught in 
the middle, he has since moved to the left, endorsing nationalization 
but arguing that it should be done through a national constitutional 
assembly. A June 12 poll showed 76 percent support for 
nationalization.


On June 3, President Mesa capitulated to the demand of a 
constitutional assembly, but by that time it was clear that the 
demonstrators, two weeks into their stay in La Paz, were looking for 
more. Mesa offered his resignation, opening the door for Vaca Diez 
and the ensuing drama.


Jim Shultz, director of the Bolivian-based Democracy Center, reported 
during the crisis that a very reliable source told him that the 
United States was working behind the scenes to pave the way for Vaca 
Diez. Steve Pike, a State Department spokesperson, said he had no 
knowledge of any U.S. efforts to propel Vaca Diez, but if true, it's 
fitting that the United States would meddle in the crisis. In at 
least two significant ways, this is a crisis of U.S. making.


The lynchpin of these demonstrations--and the ones in October 2003 
that drove Mesa's predecessor, Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada, from 
office--is MAS and Evo Morales. Though the left could surely raise 
hell in La Paz and El Alto without Morales, with him the coalition 
becomes a national force. The bad news for the United States, though, 
is that Evo Morales represents blowback from the U.S. war on drugs.


Morales' base and the roots of his strength lie in the Chapare 
region, which at its heyday grew between one half and two thirds of 
the world's coca--the plant needed to make cocaine--that has been the 
principal focus of U.S.-backed and -funded eradication efforts. 
Generally speaking, eradication is not a peaceful affair.


On May 8, 2003, U.S.-funded joint task force agents raided Hilaria 
Perez's coca farm. Perez--who lives with her husband and four 
children in a two room, dirt floor shack with splintering wood 
walls--was shot in the back as she ran to her field to protect her 
only source of income. It hurts to lift heavy things, she says, 
baring the jagged scar on her chest where the bullet exited. I can't 
work in the field anymore. Godofredo Reinicke, the former head of 
the government's human rights taskforce, confirmed her story, adding 
that the soldier was never identified. Perez and her husband are MAS 
party members.


Felipe Caceres, a former two-term 

[Biofuel] Ex-White House Official to Join Fuel Co. (ExxonMobil)

2005-06-16 Thread Keith Addison

See previous:

The Politics of Energy: Coal How a conservative think tank gave Bush 
the cover he needed to break his carbon dioxide pledge

18 Jan 2004
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg31277.html

Some Like It Hot
6 May 2005
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg46373.html

Bush Aide Softened Greenhouse Gas Links to Global Warming
9 Jun 2005
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg51253.html

US environmental policy chief quits
14 Jun 2005
http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/200 
5-June/000508.html


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http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0615-04.htm
Published on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 by the Associated Press

Ex-White House Official to Join Fuel Co.

by H. Josef Hebert

A former White House official and one-time oil industry lobbyist 
whose editing of government reports on climate change prompted 
criticism from environmentalists will join ExxonMobil Corp., the oil 
company said Tuesday.


The White House announced over the weekend that Philip Cooney, chief 
of staff of its Council on Environmental Quality, had resigned, 
calling it a long-planned departure. He had been head of the climate 
program at the American Petroleum Institute, the trade group for 
large oil companies.


Cooney will join ExxonMobil in the fall, company spokesman Russ 
Roberts told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from its 
Dallas headquarters. He declined to described Cooney's job.


Cooney could not be reached through the White House for comment.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said Cooney's departure was 
completely unrelated to the disclosure two days earlier that he had 
made changes in several government climate change reports that were 
issued in 2002 and 2003.


Mr. Cooney has long been considering his options following four 
years of service to the administration, Perino said. He'd 
accumulated many weeks of leave and decided to resign and take the 
summer off to spend time with his family.


The White House made no mention of Cooney's plans to join ExxonMobil, 
the world's largest oil company. Its executives have been among the 
most skeptical in the oil industry about the prospects of climate 
change because of a growing concentration of heat-trapping gases in 
the atmosphere. The leading greenhouse gas is carbon dioxide from 
burning fossil fuels.


Like the Bush administration, ExxonMobil Chairman Lee Raymond has 
argued strongly against the Kyoto climate accord and has raised 
questions about the certainty of climate science as it relates to 
possible global warming. Greenpeace and other environmental groups 
have singled out Raymond and ExxonMobil for protests because of its 
position on climate change.


Last week, the Government Accountability Project, a nonprofit group 
that helps whistleblowers, made available documents showing that 
Cooney was closely involved in final editing of two administration 
climate reports. He made changes that critics said consistently 
played down the certainty of the science surrounding climate change.


After Cooney's involvement in editing the climate reports was first 
reported by The New York Times, the White House defended the changes, 
saying they were part of the normal, wide-ranging review process and 
did not violate an administration pledge to rely on sound science.


A whistleblower, Rick Piltz, who resigned in March from the 
government office that coordinates federal climate change programs, 
made the documents - showing handwritten edits by Cooney - available 
to the Project on Government Accountability and, in turn, to news 
media.


 Copyright 2005 Associated Press

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[Biofuel] Fwd: Resource Pointer #387: Genetically Modified Organisms

2005-06-16 Thread Keith Addison

From: PANUPS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Resource Pointer #387: Genetically Modified Organisms
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:58:30 -0700

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Resource Pointer #387 (Genetically Modified Organisms- GMOs)
June 15, 2005

For copies of the following resources, please contact the 
appropriate publishers or organizations directly.


*Genetically Modified Crops: The African Challenge, 2005* 
Environmental Rights Action, Friends of the Earth, Nigeria. Explores 
the challenges Africa faces today as leaders are being assured that 
genetically modified or engineered (GM) crops and GM food aid will 
eradicate hunger, and malnutrition. Report emphasizes the 
environmental and social risks of a GMO invasion of Africa. 26 
pages. Available online as a free download at 
http://www.eraction.org/index.php/. Contact Friends of the Earth 
Nigeria, PO Box 10577, Ugbowo, Benin City, Nigeria; phone +234 52 
600165; fax +234 52 602680; email [EMAIL PROTECTED]; website 
http://www.eraction.org/.


*Genetically Engineered Crops and Pesticide Use in the United 
States: The First Nine Years, 2004* Charles M. Benbrook. Reveals 
that farmers now use more pesticides on the top three genetically 
engineered (GE) crops--corn, soybeans, and cotton--than on 
conventional varieties. Predicts that the intensity of herbicide use 
on GE crops is not likely to subside in the near future because of 
the popularity of herbicide tolerant (HT) varieties (tolerant to 
glyphosate), the limited supply of seeds for non-HT varieties, and 
increasingly aggressive pesticide industry campaigns targeting 
farmers growing HT crops. Available as a free download at 
http://www.ucsusa.org/food_and_environment/biotechnology/page.cfm?page 
ID=1542. Contact Union of Concerned Scientists, 2 Brattle Square, 
Cambridge, MA 02238-9105; phone (617) 547-5552; fax (617) 864-9405; 
website http://www.ucsusa.org/.


*Control Through Contamination: US Forcing GMO Corn and Free Trade 
on Mexico and Central America, 2003* S'ra DeSantis. Looks at the 
dangers genetically engineered crops and foods pose to human health, 
the environment and farming communities. Also focuses on the ways 
that free trade agreements force GMOs (genetically modified 
organisms) into Mexico and Central America. 28 pages. Available 
online as a free download at 
http://www.asej.org/index.php?name=homeID=59. Contact ISE 
Biotechnology Project, Northeast Resistance Against Genetic 
Engineering, 1118 Maple Hill Road, Plainfield, VT 05667; phone (802) 
454-7138; email [EMAIL PROTECTED]; website http://www.nerage.org/.


*Status of crop biotechnologies in Developing Countries - FAO 
report, 2003* Food and Agriculture Organization of the United 
Nations. Contains an on-line searchable database called FAO-BioDeC, 
providing information on biotechnology products and techniques in 
use or in the pipeline in developing countries. Entries cover 
genetically modified crops and non-GM biotechnologies. Accessible in 
Arabic, English, French and Spanish. 53 pages. Available as a free 
download at http://www.fao.org/biotech/. Contact FOA, Biotechnology 
in Food and Agriculture; email [EMAIL PROTECTED] website 
http://www.fao.org/biotech/.


*GM Contamination Register, 
Website*http://www.gmcontaminationregister.org/. GeneWatch UK and 
Greenpeace. Intended to be a resource for individuals, public 
interest groups and governments. Searchable website gives details of 
all the known cases of GM contamination of food, feed, seed and wild 
plants that have taken place worldwide. Includes information about, 
and links to GeneWatch UK and Greenpeace websites as well as other 
useful sites. Contact GeneWatch UK, The Mill House, Manchester Road, 
Tideswell, Buxton, Derbyshire SK17 8LN, UK; email 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; website http://www.genewatch.org.


We encourage those interested in having resources listed in the 
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videos or other resources to our office.


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[Biofuel] RE:Confessions of an American Ex-Patriot - Interesting essay

2005-06-16 Thread malcolm maclure

Long but worth the read - food for thought for the entire developed
world!!


http://www.eoni.com/~visionquest/library/confessions.html


Confessions of an American Ex-Patriot

It all began about a year ago.  I had just finished watching the morning
news over a cup of coffee, and nothing felt quite right.  Having dutifully
pecked the cheek of my wife with a kiss, I stood beside my sporty new car
with mug in hand. The engine was purring away before my drive to work, and
my favorite bumper sticker caught my eye.  ?Proud to be an American? it
read.  I paused for a moment, reflecting upon this.  For some reason it just
didn?t set well, like a lunch eaten too fast.  On the way to the office I
was at a loss to explain, in fact, why it began to seriously irritate me.  I
see statements like these on countless other cars every day, and I wondered
how many people think for themselves these days.  Then the question
arose?What are we so proud of?  As I asked myself this question over and
over again, I suddenly couldn?t think of a single response.  So why did I
have this proclamation on my bumper, if I didn?t know what it meant?  Why
does everyone else seem to have one too, (or a flag or sticker in the window
and yard). Do they know something I don?t??  

My day at work was pretty much the same as always, except for one thing.  I
seemed to raise a few eyebrows over lunch with my question, ?Why are you
proud to be an American??  The immediate reactions were about the same as
mine. There was also obvious irritation about being asked a question to
which everyone is expected to know the answer.  Each person I asked had no
immediate response, and their confusion reminded me of my own.  But then to
my relief the answer that was provided one way or another, was something to
the effect of??Well, we?re a free country.  We?re a democracy, and the
people decide how they want to believe, and you know, that?s a lot better
than any place else in the world, right??   But my sense of relief at this
answer did not last.  I kept the thought that came to mind secret, which
was, ?Yeah, you?re free to believe whatever you want, so long as it?s
politically correct?.  Recalling recent events and the sorry shape the world
is in right now, such responses seemed very shallow.  They sounded like tape
recordings being played on cue.  It was a little eerie how everybody
answered in the same basic way, using the same words I?d heard on television
so many times.  It would be interesting to know if everyone would talk
differently if the television and newspapers were taking a different stand.
I suspect they would be. 

When I got home that evening, I made my wife nervous by talking about how
the last presidential election was a farce.  George W. Bush is president
today, but not by a vote of the people.  I said, ?Yes, don?t you
remember?nobody ever talks about this now, as though it?s ancient history.
But George W. was put in office by the Supreme Court, while the recount of
votes in Florida was actually prevented.  How can a court decide who wins
the presidency in a democracy?  She did not seem to appreciate my new
fascination with being politically incorrect, and offered no answers. 

Afterwards, other questions arose in my mind.  If we?re a democracy, then
why is it that the important decisions of running this country and how our
tax dollars are spent, are rarely a matter of public knowledge, let alone
votes?  Do we really live in a free country or a police state?  Are we
really promoting democracy around the world as the television claims we are,
or are we just installing puppets who do our economic bidding?  I thought of
recent police suppression of demonstrations in Seattle, Portland and
elsewhere.  Images of pepper spray, riot gear, Nazi insignias, and countless
people in prison cells filled my mind. I thought about how the Justice
Department locks people up indefinitely now, without charges, even if they
are American citizens. Bank accounts are frozen and lives are destroyed,
just because George and company says they have ?ties? to so and so.  Our
words speak  of ?nation building? but our actions speak more loudly of.
nation destroying. I remembered hearing how the CIA meddles in governments
the world over, staging armed rebellions and the like, yet without a single
vote from the people involved. How does one establish a democracy by
installing puppet dictators who are on the CIA payroll? I thought about the
?Patriot Act? which makes wire taps, e-mail interception and house searches
without warrants ?legal?.  So much for the Bill of Rights.  I considered how
it?s becoming more and more accepted that neighbors report each other to the
government for ?suspicious behavior?.  What is ?suspicious? behavior anyway,
not wearing green on St. Patrick?s Day??  How will this new ?Homeland
Security? office be used against our citizens? Perhaps it should be called
?The Office of Suspicious Behavior?.  I thought about college professors
being fired and 

RE: [Biofuel] This will make you smile

2005-06-16 Thread malcolm maclure
http://storewars.org/flash/index.html

Malcolm


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RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show

2005-06-16 Thread Mel Riser
I am not sure if it was junk. It seemdd to work and the titration charts and 
examples they had seemd clear and easy. Even had a water wash option.
 
Whether fule meister is worth the 3000 they are advertising it for or whether 
someone would be more interested in the old water heater batch processor, it 
DID present BioDiesel in a good light and will spur the imagination of millions 
of diesel truck owners and that can't be a bad thing.
 
I agree with Gregg, the Show was an A for clarity and clear presentation. 
Wheter the fuel meister is worth or not depends on how mechanically inclined 
you are.
Most viewers of trucks are wrenchers that make their own stuff and if they can 
go to Journey to forever and learn how to make the same thing for less than 
1000 USD then maybe they will.
 
I wish I had taped as well.
 
Hey Gregg can you make a Mini-DV tape or DVD? I would pay you something for 
digital files of the show.
 
mel

-Original Message- 
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wed 6/15/2005 9:28 PM 
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show



Hi Gregg, Mel

Hi Mel,

I saw too. I also taped it for future reference. I did notice one
thing that Stacey failed to mention: Heating the oil.

Funny how they fail to mention that.

I know that it's possible to make biodiesel in a blender from virgin
oil, but the stuff he was using looked as though it had been around
the block at least once. I'll give the show an A for giving the
basics. I've not had any experience with the Fuel Meister, but I
have read some things online that aren't flattering.

It's junk. The instructions (destructions?) that come with it are
also junk - back to
  the Dark Ages!, as some have said.

See (please do!):
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer

You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons
of high-quality biodiesel for that price.

If dear old Rudi would only put anything like the effort he puts into
promotion into making a half-decent bit of gear to promote... Don't
hold yer breath.

Sincerely,
Gregg Davidson


Mel Riser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just saw the Fuel Meister on Trucks!

And they didn't drive it into the sea? Pity.

They made a batch of BioDiesel and then put it in the truck and ran it.

Pretty good show

Now every Truck freak in the US will know about this.

Sounds like the notorious BBC Top Gear show of a few years back -
just add a teaspoon of turpentine and you can run your car on veggie
oil. Not! But a lot of people believed it, and probably still do. A
lot of them wrote to us, very boring! Now we're getting truckies
doing the same thing. ... if this fuel works as well as the trucks
segment said... :-(

My dad called me last week and some of his buddies in Louisiana (
where I'm from) are talking BioDiesel and grease cars.

Well set him right, eh, Mel? Build your own!
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html
Biodiesel processors

And then just do it right:
Where do I start?
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start

Best wishes

Keith

mel


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RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show

2005-06-16 Thread Gregg Davidson
Hi Mel,

I was just talking to my lab partner about the Fuel Meister earlier today. I told her that you could probably get all the assorted parts put one together yourself for a lot less than the price they want. I'm trying to get things in order at my end to make a BD reactor from a water heater. While I've located a local sourse for methanol,my main constraint is space or the lack of it, but I've heard that it's better touse a tall water heater rather than the shorter ones. So many decisions!!!

As to the mini-DV tape or DVD, I have some equipment to transferVHS to DVD, but I have only tried it once, with not much luck. I'll see what I can come up with let you know.

Respectfully,
Gregg
Mel Riser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not sure if it was junk. It seemdd to work and the titration charts and examples they had seemd clear and easy. Even had a water wash option.Whether fule meister is worth the 3000 they are advertising it for or whether someone would be more interested in the old water heater batch processor, it DID present BioDiesel in a good light and will spur the imagination of millions of diesel truck owners and that can't be a bad thing.I agree with Gregg, the Show was an A for clarity and clear presentation. Wheter the fuel meister is worth or not depends on how mechanically inclined you are.Most viewers of trucks are wrenchers that make their own stuff and if they can go to Journey to forever and learn how to make the same thing for less than 1000 USD then maybe they will.I wish I had taped as well.Hey Gregg can you make a Mini-DV tape or DVD? I would
 pay you something for digital files of the show.mel-Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 6/15/2005 9:28 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Cc: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks showHi Gregg, MelHi Mel,I saw too. I also taped it for future reference. I did notice onething that Stacey failed to mention: Heating the oil.Funny how they fail to mention that.I know that it's possible to make biodiesel in a blender from virginoil, but the stuff he was using looked as though it had "been aroundthe block" at least once. I'll give the show an "A" for giving thebasics. I've not had any experience with the Fuel Meister, but Ihave read some things online that aren't flattering.It's junk. The "instructions" (destructions?) that come with it arealso junk - "back tothe
 Dark Ages!", as some have said.See (please do!):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.htmlRe: [biofuel] Best Processer"You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallonsof high-quality biodiesel for that price."If dear old Rudi would only put anything like the effort he puts intopromotion into making a half-decent bit of gear to promote... Don'thold yer breath.Sincerely,Gregg DavidsonMel Riser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Just saw the Fuel Meister on Trucks!And they didn't drive it into the sea? Pity.They made a batch of BioDiesel and then put it in the truck and ran it.Pretty good showNow every Truck freak in the US will know about this.Sounds like the notorious BBC Top Gear show of a few years back -just add a teaspoon of turpentine and you can run your car on
 veggieoil. Not! But a lot of people believed it, and probably still do. Alot of them wrote to us, very boring! Now we're getting truckiesdoing the same thing. "... if this fuel works as well as the "trucks"segment said..." :-(My dad called me last week and some of his buddies in Louisiana (where I'm from) are talking BioDiesel and grease cars.Well set him right, eh, Mel? Build your own!http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.htmlBiodiesel processorsAnd then just do it right:"Where do I start?"http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#startBest wishesKeithmel___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and
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[Biofuel] Military Ethics

2005-06-16 Thread robert luis rabello
We've been discussing the issue of justice lately, so I thought some 
of you might find this NPR feature interesting:


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4703281


 There has been a spate of high-profile cases of U.S. soldiers and 
Marines being acquitted of abusing and killing detainees in Iraq and 
Afghanistan. Military officials say the rights extended to the accused 
are huge -- and the notion of self-defense in a combat situation is 
critical to determining the outcomes.



robert luis rabello
The Edge of Justice
Adventure for Your Mind
http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782

Ranger Supercharger Project Page
http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/



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Re[2]: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show

2005-06-16 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Greg,Mel,

Thursday, 16 June, 2005, 18:17:20, you wrote:
...snip...
GD As  to  the mini-DV tape or DVD, I have some equipment to transfer
GD VHS  to  DVD,  but  I have only tried it once, with not much luck.
GD I'll see what I can come up with  let you know.
 
It   is  my  understanding  that  transferring  VHS  to  DVD  can  be
accomplished  by  buying  a  device  with  a VHS player and DVD burner
hardwired  to  operate  together,  and that they work well.  They are,
however,  quite expensive (at least I consider them expensive) at over
$200 per unit.  Not worth it perhaps.

With video capture cards and software there are problems with both the
sound and video although perhaps not both every time.  It seems rather
unpredictable.  There are forums about such things online.

Happy Happy,

Gustl
-- 
Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns.

We can't change the winds but we can adjust our sails.

The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, 
soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, 
without signposts.  
C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters

Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Strae liegen, 
da sie gerade deshalb von der gewhnlichen Welt nicht 
gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden.

Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't
hear the music.  
George Carlin

The best portion of a good man's life -
His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love.
William Wordsworth



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RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show

2005-06-16 Thread Keith Addison

Hi Mel


I am not sure if it was junk.


Did you read the link? Here it is again:


See (please do!):
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer

You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons
of high-quality biodiesel for that price.


That thing won't make any gallons of high-quality biodiesel at 
whatever price. It's a snare and a delusion to lead newbies astray 
and empty their pockets. The online biodiesel commmunity is pretty 
fractious but with the exception of Rudi and Joshua there's 
widespread agreement that the FuelMeister's a major no-no.


It seemdd to work and the titration charts and examples they had 
seemd clear and easy. Even had a water wash option.


Even? An option? For more than $3,000? Yet they advise against 
washing, say it's bad for the motor, LOL! But if you really, really, 
want to wash it anyway you can pay a whole lot more for the washing 
option. And if you really, really, want to heat the stuff although 
room-temperature's recommended, more LOLs, you can pay a whole lot 
more again for a half-assed heating set-up. They claim that a 
breathing mask will protect you from methanol fumes, etc etc. Dark 
ages.



Whether fule meister is worth the 3000


Plus - plus much of you want the complete catastrophe.

they are advertising it for or whether someone would be more 
interested in the old water heater batch processor,


There are more and better options than either of those.

it DID present BioDiesel in a good light and will spur the 
imagination of millions of diesel truck owners and that can't be a 
bad thing.


If they go and buy FuelMeisters it will be a bad thing, IMHO. 
Poor-quality, overpriced equipment that comes with even worse 
instructions and makes poor-quality biodiesel is not a good thing, 
especially not when doing it right is so easy.



I agree with Gregg, the Show was an A for clarity and clear presentation.


But of what? You can highlight a dogturd with clarity and clear 
presentation. Now they've sown the idea that you don't need to heat 
it, much easier! There'll be resistance to the fact that you DO need 
to heat it after all. It said on television you don't need to heat 
it, that's that.


It is possible to make high-quality biodiesel at room temperature, 
but it needs special techniques and more skill than a newbiew trucker 
misled by his TV is going to be able to muster. Using a FuelMeister 
at room temperature he won't have much hope of getting within 
spitting distance of completion. How much of a good thing will he 
think it is when all those glycs and other impurities that shouldn't 
be there wreck his injector pump? But it said on television...


Wheter the fuel meister is worth or not depends on how mechanically 
inclined you are.


If it won't do the job right it's not worth it no matter how many 
thumbs you have.


Most viewers of trucks are wrenchers that make their own stuff and 
if they can go to Journey to forever and learn how to make the same 
thing


Why would they do that? They've been told all they need is a FuelMeister.


for less than 1000 USD


Or less than 100 (ours).
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html
Journey to Forever 90-litre processor

There's a message in the archives estimating what it would cost if 
you bought the parts yourself and made your own FuelMeister, not that 
that's a good idea, but it came down to a fraction of what Rudi 
charges, or overcharges.


Put a cone bottom on a 55-gallon drum, put in a couple of immersion 
heaters and some plumbing, use a good strong pump or a paddle 
stirrer, if it doesn't have a cinch-clamp lid make one out of wood 
and plastic underneath, sealed with silicon and held tight with 
toggle-latches; another drum with a stirrer for washing; another one 
with a burner underneath for pre-heating, dead easy, good brew, and 
what will it cost? Not very much.


Oh well.

Best wishes

Keith



then maybe they will.

I wish I had taped as well.

Hey Gregg can you make a Mini-DV tape or DVD? I would pay you 
something for digital files of the show.


mel

-Original Message-
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 6/15/2005 9:28 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show



Hi Gregg, Mel

Hi Mel,

I saw too. I also taped it for future reference. I did notice one
thing that Stacey failed to mention: Heating the oil.

Funny how they fail to mention that.

I know that it's possible to make biodiesel in a blender from virgin
oil, but the stuff he was using looked as though it had been around
the block at least once. I'll give the show an A for giving the
basics. I've not had any experience with the Fuel Meister, but I
have read some things online that 

[Biofuel] ladas etc

2005-06-16 Thread parallax



darn it
my email is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ladas could be converted with the diesel chevette 
(isuzu)  as a thought

interested?
gord

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