RE: [Biofuel] Energy content

2005-08-19 Thread Bede
coconuts one of the best yielding and easiest to grow.. , although its worth more per liter for cosmetics (shampoo soap etc) and cooking oil. how ever the whole dehusking bit is some what tiresome... I gave it a go a few weeks ago.. It does help you build up upper body strength =D see

Re: [Biofuel] Lignin crop redidue breakdown

2005-08-19 Thread Pieter Koole
My question is since composting does a good job of breaking down lignin, would it be possible to use composting as part of the ethanol creation process? I can imagine that the micro organisms "eat" also the sugars, leaving nothing for you to ferment to sugar. Greetings, Pieter

Re: [Biofuel] Energy content

2005-08-19 Thread bob allen
James, the energy content of all vegetable and animal fat/oil is about 9 kCalories/gram or about 38 kJoules/gram. james porakari wrote: Dear all, Anyone can anyone help me to find information on energy content of palm oil and Kernel oil and also coconut oil. I am doing a research on bifuels

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-19 Thread capt3d
i don't think there's anything about the context which implicitly leans toward either legitimate government involvement from any number of agencies, or downright censorship. it was simply stated that the game had been banned on ebay. most people would probably read that as suggesting that

[Biofuel] Ethanol automation

2005-08-19 Thread Rich
I would like to see variables and numbers put on the different processes of making ethanol in an effort to identify the equipment requirements and tolerances needed to ultimately lead to automation of the ethanol making process? Variables such as temperature in Fahrenheit or Celsius, speed in

Re: [Biofuel] Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate)

2005-08-19 Thread Joe Street
Howdy Pardner bob allen wrote: Howdy Joe (I just had to write Hey Joe before. its the lead to a Jimmy hendrix song I enjoy.) Yeah I get that a lot. When they ask me where you goin with that gun in your hand I say This is my rifle and this is my gun, This is for shooting and this is

Re: [Biofuel] Lignin crop redidue breakdown

2005-08-19 Thread marilyn
My question is since composting does a good job of breaking down lignin, would it be possible to use composting as part of the ethanol creation process? I can imagine that the micro organisms eat also the sugars, leaving nothing for you to ferment to sugar. Pieter A related question:

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-19 Thread capt3d
i think you need to check your facts. :^) -chris Heck, most Americans don't even know the proverbial Franklin stove (round and made of steel) has nothing to do with Ben Franklin. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

RE: [Biofuel] Lignin crop redidue breakdown

2005-08-19 Thread Bede
In nz, Australia and England, we make such fantastic spreads like marmite, and vegemite from the stuff left over from beer brewing, You yanks don't see to like it too much tho... http://www.marmite.com/ Cheers, Bede -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate)

2005-08-19 Thread bob allen
Joe Street wrote: Howdy Pardner bob allen wrote: Howdy Joe (I just had to write Hey Joe before. its the lead to a Jimmy hendrix song I enjoy.) Yeah I get that a lot. When they ask me where you goin with that gun in your hand I say This is my rifle and this is my gun, This is for

Re: [Biofuel] Energy content

2005-08-19 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi James, If you are looking for oil production per hectare then I believe palm oil is at the top of the list. Check the archieves for more info. Tom Irwin From: bob allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 09:50:12 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel]

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-19 Thread Chris Lloyd
According to the judgment of history and of their contemporaries, the two foremost geniuses among the founding fathers were Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin. But even geniuses make mistakes, and Franklin made a lulu with the stove he invented. It just plain did not work. In one of those

Re: [Biofuel] Lignin crop redidue breakdown

2005-08-19 Thread Brian Rodgers
Glad to see others are looking at this. Rich wrote: I am looking at the second chapter of Mother Earth Alcohol Fuel -Raw materials chapter at http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/meCh2.html#2_1. I was involved in a recent thread called Re:

[Biofuel] Question on methoxide

2005-08-19 Thread Pieter Koole
Hi friends, For some reason or another I made some horrible BD and started to doubt about what I am doing. So I decided to make a range of 12 bottles of sodiummethoxide, varying from 3½ to 9 grams of lye per liter. After mixing each liter of methanol with exactly the amount of lye, I found out

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-19 Thread bob allen
Chris, please add quotes, and provide a link when copying text from a website. Not doing so implies you wrote the material. (If you wrote the stuff on the website, my apologies) http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/story034.htm give credit where credit is due. it's the right thing

Re: [Biofuel] B.P. methanol m100?

2005-08-19 Thread Felipe Navarrete
Is that .90 cents a gallon? If so, Can I run my 1990 honda civic on M100? That would be a direct way to save money and burn a more environmentally safe fuel... Eriva Randriamanjatosoa wrote: Hi Felipe, it depends on what is reasonable. But it can be even cheaper -up to as low as USD .9

Re: [Biofuel] ws Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate) now alternative biodiesel process

2005-08-19 Thread Joe Street
Hi Bob; Well although I agree if it aint broke don't fix it but according to the original post this electrically activated process does not require methoxide. If it is true what a nice advancement. According to the original post IIRC it said the process involves adding 15% methanol and the

Re: [Biofuel] ws Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate) now alternative biodiesel process

2005-08-19 Thread bob allen
Joe, just a couple of comments. all kinds of claims can be made in patent applications, whether they work or not remains to be seen. the process is simple enough that one could try it and see. I did look at the patent application. some of their nomenclature is ambiguous, so it is not

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-19 Thread Chris Lloyd
Chris, please add quotes, and provide a link when copying text from a website. Not doing so implies you wrote the material. Sorry will do in future, It should have had the header, photo and credits but they went when it converted to plain text Chris. Wessex Ferret Club

Re: [Biofuel] ws Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate) now alternative biodiesel process

2005-08-19 Thread Joe Street
Hi Bob; Yes I figured the link was bogus (I guess you didn't notice my note to that effect) so where is the real patent application do you have a link? How did you find it? Ray do you have it? BTW I did a quick test last night using a tesla coil and 40ml of WVO with 15% methanol. Of course

Re: [Biofuel] alternative biodiesel process

2005-08-19 Thread Randall
Bob, Do you have the link for the correct patent? Or can you repost the relevant information? Thanks! Randall - Original Message - From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] ws Sodium Methoxide

Re: [Biofuel] ws Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate) now alternative biodiesel process

2005-08-19 Thread ings . group
snip- The patent reference does not appear to be the right one. Ray?? Joe My apologies http://tinyurl.com/cxukc Ray ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-19 Thread Keith Addison
Chris, please add quotes, and provide a link when copying text from a website. Not doing so implies you wrote the material. Sorry will do in future, It should have had the header, photo and credits but they went when it converted to plain text Chris. Please send all messages in plain text

Re: [Biofuel] FW: a problem

2005-08-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Derick Hi all Uh, Houston... im not sure but I may have a problem. after many disappointing test batches I finally got several good test batches. I now moved on to a large batch using the same w v o used in the test batches. there was almost instant separation Sorry, what's that

Re: [Biofuel] Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate)

2005-08-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Bob and all snip The methoxide that I make by mixing 99% methanol with 85% assay KOH is volitile and definitely liquid. You are making a mixture, the volatile component of which is still methanol So would it be correct to say there's no such thing as methoxide fumes? Best wishes Keith

RE: [Biofuel] FW: a problem

2005-08-19 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
Thanks Keith After reading your reply I have a sinking feeling. Maybe my filling in the blanks will help you help me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:26 PM To:

RE: [Biofuel] biofuel and Dodge

2005-08-19 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
Im very new at this. But I have had one really good batch so far and lots of bad tests. But I ran my 04 24valve on the 15 gal I had better mileage than dino and I feel better performance. About 95% bio in the tank. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of

[Biofuel] Questions on drying Ethanol

2005-08-19 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi All, I´m trying to figure my local costs for ethanol to try some batches in BioD from waste oil. Ethanol 100% is quite expense, 95 % a bit less and 70% least costly. I have a supplier of 3A molecular sieve at about US $40 per kilogram. I was planning on starting with the 95% and running it

Re: [Biofuel] Lignin crop redidue breakdown

2005-08-19 Thread Mike Weaver
I keep a little jar in my fridge. I love Marmite on fresh bread. Just a crazy Yank Bede wrote: In nz, Australia and England, we make such fantastic spreads like marmite, and vegemite from the stuff left over from beer brewing, You yanks don't see to like it too much tho...

[Biofuel] RE: High energy electrode process

2005-08-19 Thread Andy Karpay
I didn't read the Patent, and I'm not an electrical engineer, but have worked on processes that involved high energy electrodes in liquids to produce combustible fuels (Hydrogen, CO, and other hydrocarbons). 3-5 kV is going to be difficult to attain. I guess it's possible at ultra low current.

RE: [Biofuel] FW: a problem

2005-08-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Derick Thanks Keith After reading your reply I have a sinking feeling. Maybe my filling in the blanks will help you help me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:26 PM To:

[Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling

2005-08-19 Thread Rich
Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. I know plastic is not compostable, obviously it needs some pre-treatment before even attempting to bring

Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling

2005-08-19 Thread Rich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. I know plastic is not compostable, obviously it needs some pre-treatment before

Re: [Biofuel] FW: a problem

2005-08-19 Thread DERICK GIORCHINO
Hi keith I understand what you're saying. No the drum is not sealed air tight but it is closed I used 1/4 flat steel plate 4 larger than the drum diameter. I drilled a pilot hole in the top and put pillow block bearings one on the inside and one on the outside to hold the mixing paddle straight

Re: [Biofuel] Plastic and metal recycling

2005-08-19 Thread Keith Addison
Does Journey to Forever have any tips on recycling plastic and metal? The only reference I found on Journey to Forever was that Mike Pelly using salvage scrap metal for his equipment. You sure didn't look very hard. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor7.html Test-batch

Re: [Biofuel] B.P. methanol m100?

2005-08-19 Thread Rademan, Jacobus
Hi Felipe,and all,according to me to run your car on methanol you will need about double the volume thus bigger injectors which is expensive and like i said methanol burns to +-6/1 were petrol burns 14 / 1 so u will need more feul to go the same distance in South Africa methanol costs r 2.37/l