So you think Sweden is a sucess? Try living there with a tax rate of 70%.
Chuck
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pat Robertson's business affiliation with Hugo
Chavez
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:42:00
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello David
Hi Keith:)
I expect that's covered under free speech.
I'd personally rate Robertsons comments as up there with any number
of people who advocate the death of Bush for crimes against humanity
or somesuch. If Bush were assasinated would these people really
Just wanted to thank Keith, et al. for this interesting, albeit
politically skewed at times list serve. I learn a lot from the
exchanges, and am very appreciative. I'm not going to respond to the political
chatter, because I'm more interested in learning how do free myself
It was asked:
Where is the outrage at the fine work Michael Moore and numerous others
are doing at peddling lies ?
Michael Moore's opinions are just that. The facts that he sites are fact. As an example the film F 9/11 has been reviewed for accuracy and factualness by several independent groups
Hello all,
This subject I do know enough to weigh in on depending on where you live!!!
Yes indeed, the US standard for plastic jugs is a color coding as John
outlined. Most fuel stations are now self-service (with the exceptions of
states like Oregon who don't allow self-service -- (in the
Hi Chuck,
I don´t live in Sweden. Is their tax rate really 70%? Is it flat rate or progressive? What do you receive as a citizen of Sweden from your taxes?
Thanks,
Tom Irwin
From: Charles Heinitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 00:47:25
Hello David
Either I'm losing my debating touch or you're taking my arguments a
long ways away from where they were aimed.
Not from where they're aimed, but perhaps where they came from. I
think you're sitting in an armchair, and this ain't no armchair.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't
Hello Chris
the subject of glycerine by-product, and what to do with it, seems to come up
quite frequently so i thought i'd pass on this bit of news.
cheers,
-chris
Thanks, but we had it before:
http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/200
5-August/003069.html
Hello Clif
Keith Addison wrote:
My my. And I was just thinking you might be a man who'd do a bit of
checking before he shot his foot off. Again. I do rather wonder what
you mean when you say right here in America when actually where you
are right now is right here on the global Internet, on
David,
What you are saying is that if I officially said that CIA should kill
Bush, before he get US in irreversible trouble, then I am not doing
anything illegal. I do not personally belive that this should be done
or that anyone seriously should suggest this, but I wonder what
happened if I
Chuck,
What do you know about this and it was not long ago that US also had
an 80% top tax bracket. The Swedish tax laws are modelled after the
US, but you are right in that Sweden have 80% were US have 60-70%.
Then we come to deductions etc, and the picture is not that clear. US
and Sweden
Dear Wdt
As motor made in Brasil to run on
ethanol has engine design with higher compression
than gasoline car , you can think of importing the
same as the technology envolves not only the engine , but
also several other parts of the car.As I understand , may be Keith
knows much better , the
Hakan,
I was in Sweden in 1985 on a course with Ericcsson for 8 months. I found
Sweden high taxed, but using the tax money to help the residents. One example
would be that rent was subsidised.
Probably Sweden has changed a lot from those days, but I know the political
stability has helped the
Non-mythology about the news from Iraq:
Cindy Sheehan speaks to crowd at Camp Casey
Casey was killed by insurgents. He wasn't killed by terrorists. He
was killed by Shiite militia who wanted him out of the country.
Audio and transcript
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9980.htm
Hello Cliff,
I am a former officer in the USAF so perhaps I do
have a fondness for
the fine, exceedingly capable and patriotic men and
women serving to protect and defend a country I
personally feel is a pretty good place to live.
Perhaps I am living under some delusions and if that
is the
Greetings to all, I am an avid alternative fuel
advocate who is building a large home sized processor.
I do hope you will read this and maybe it will help
get us back on track!!All this talk of politics as far
as I am concerned is for the most part way out of
line,and with a lot of
It was placed on the ballot and was decided by the people. As a result I don't have to get fuel on my hands. Yeah, sure, you can use gloves but it is a PITA and we are cheaper than Washington or California, our neighbors, and they make you pump your own. As for jobs-- why not? Corporations would
Propylene glycol as it is used tons and tons of products including
industrial cleaners, shampoo's, toothpaste, creams, etc. It is very toxic,
the industry even has it in children's prescriptions. Wonder if this type of
propylene glycol has less poison/carcinogenic toxicity qualities vrs what
Nancy Canning wrote:
Propylene glycol as it is used tons and tons of products including
industrial cleaners, shampoo's, toothpaste, creams, etc. It is very toxic,
the industry even has it in children's prescriptions. Wonder if this type of
propylene glycol has less poison/carcinogenic
Well done Keith.
So here we are again, stating the obvious,setting the record straight about a war which violates international laws (which the US helped write, then signed onto)related tojustification for war, engagement,torture, detainment and the fabrication of the term "enemy combatant"
ardis streeter wrote:
All this talk of politics as far
as I am concerned is for the most part way out of
line,and with a lot of misconceptions toward a
political adjenda.
Don't go there! Didn't you read the welcome message when you first
subscribed?
robert luis rabello
The Edge
Hallo Folks,
Saturday, 27 August, 2005, 11:51:31, you wrote:
rlr ardis streeter wrote:
All this talk of politics as far as I am concerned is for the most
part way out of line,and with a lot of misconceptions toward a
political adjenda.
rlr Don't go there! Didn't you read the welcome
Oh, Chucky... You should have followed the link:
http://www.pkarchive.org/economy/ForRicher.html
It's clear that Sweden is a success, furthermore it succeeds for many
more of its citizens than the USA. The ugliest part of the USA's
productivity and per-capita income figures is how much the
Well said Gustl,
This list has proven to me how little I know, so many times.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 11:34 AM 8/27/2005, you wrote:
Hallo Folks,
Ja, let's not go there. Let us go here instead. Unless people have
all the information they are able they will not be able to make
There's been a lot of discussion on this list regarding religions and
politics lately; as well as the diversity in the biofuels subjects. (I
signed up back when I did, not knowing about other fuels, just looking
for more info on biodiesel...) And the expanse of knowledge displayed
regarding
Ardis,
All this talk of politics as far
as I am concerned is for the most
part way out of line,
And just exactly what part, in your considered opinion, is the portion
that is not out of line? Or is that remark simply a general,
all-inclusive, pejorative intended to dismiss 99% of the
Dear Pannirselvam
Dear Wdt
As motor made in Brasil to run on ethanol has engine design
with higher compression than gasoline car , you can think of
importing the same as the technology envolves not only the engine
, but also several other parts of the car.As I understand ,
Greetings to all, I am an avid alternative fuel
advocate who is building a large home sized processor.
I do hope you will read this and maybe it will help
get us back on track!!All this talk of politics as far
as I am concerned is for the most part way out of
line,and with a lot of
I agree although Moor's film is a bit over the top
certain moments are compelling . The scene in the Florida school when Bush
is advised of the attack on the Trade center could hardly be faked . The
man was clueless and it showed . The man is nothing but a willing stooge
for the real power
If nothing else, these political discussions do get everyone to come
out and talk. I think it is great. Freedom of speech is still alive
here, whether we talk about making alternative fuel, or politics. I
agree that talking is where it's at. Besides, as a newcomer, when I
ask questions about
Hello Kirk and all,
I happen to have been born in Oregon and lived there (Central Point) until about ten years ago when business expansion brought me east. I only pointed that out as a bit of info -- I don't believe I ever indicated I had any problem with it?? In fact my wife's best friend
I've been following the
discussionre: restaurants and the contracts they may have with grease
haulers (renderers) with great interest. I have a sinking feeling in the
pit of my stomach.
I started
withsmall (1L - 4L) test batches, first on virgin oil and then on WVO
samples obtained from
Advice requested - What's a decent diesel van that could hold six or seven
people comfortably? Can be a traditional style van, or a bigger model - a
mail truck or small step van that we can make into a miniature
camper/day-tripper. I'm looking to replace a Grand Caravan with something
that will
Dogonnit Keith,
If the guy is going to behave in such a fashion, those who have to
suffer it should at least be able to grill him about his generalities
and stereotyping until he's forced to admit that there is a lot more to
the bag of beans than he would care to recognize.
Just throttling
Nanny, you are right that propylene glycol is used in numerous products, due to
its relative
non-toxicity. Are you confusing nontoxic propylene glycol with toxic ethylene
glycol?
for an msds see http://www.the-buying-group.com/pgmsds.php
propylene glycol is metabolized in the body via
Keith,
As an Aussie, I have to agree with you. The Ethanol debate was derailed by
vested interests. The issue was that some fuel discounters were adulterating
fuel with low taxed substitutes and this was causing issues with some cars.
This misinformation now means that the market is distorted
Dear List,
A bit about the legal ramifications, though there will be none, of
Pat Robertson's statements concerning Chavez.
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20050826.html by
John Dean .
Cheers,
S. Chapin
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Biofuel mailing list
Thanks: I find that illuminating to say the least. I personally hope that the
US does take this further, otherwise how can they insist foreign powers
prosecute their citizens for similar acts (including for instance statements
by Mullahs)
regards Doug
On Sunday 28 August 2005 8:26, S.
There are any number of people who are calling for Bush to be tried
for treason and war crimes. We certainly don't want him to be
assassinated! God forbid, we don't need any NeoCon martyrs here.
We do expect that he and most of his cabinet will be hung or imprisoned
after the trials
Where are you? There isn't much in the US, but Europe and other places
have pretty good options.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Advice requested - What's a decent diesel van that could hold six or seven
people comfortably? Can be a traditional style van, or a bigger model - a
mail truck or small
A note on Keith's last point - some of the BD crowd in Pittsboro
reported getting notices from the IRS and (or?) state tax people re the
over the road tax.
Might be good to keep a log if you are living here in the land of the
free and the home of the brave.
-Mike
Keith Addison wrote:
Dear
Not to beat a dead horse, but honestly, why would we be in the Middle
East and for that matter even discussing biofuels if they wasn't related?
Why are we even concerned with Robertson's stupid remark? OIL.
My desire to drive a fuel efficient car on non-Exxon-Halliburton-Saudi
fuel is not just
If propylene glycol is an antifreeze, couldn't it be added to bioD in winter? Or am I showing my naivity? ;)
Renewable Alternatives, has developed a process for converting glycerin,
a byproduct of the biodiesel production process, into propylene glycol.Propylene glycol can be used as nontoxic
The top tax bracket under Nixon was 70%...
Doug Foskey wrote:
Hakan,
I was in Sweden in 1985 on a course with Ericcsson for 8 months. I found
Sweden high taxed, but using the tax money to help the residents. One example
would be that rent was subsidised.
Probably Sweden has changed a lot
Oh, I don't mind a few shots - been known to dish them out myself! I
guess I would turn the tables and
ask if you ever heard of an actual communist system? I can't think of
one. Almost all had major built in flaws,
ranging from phony economic figures to police state governments. I've
never
Greetings,
I have lived under Canada's medical and the US system, and had cancer in
both. I will take the US system any day of the week. Sorry, but sitting
on a waiting list waiting to have a pre-cancerous mass removed until it
turns into cancer is not my idea of good medicine. Ask any US
Good point, but:
1. What if you don't have or can't get insurance?
2. Last time I checked, it is not illegal to see a doctor in Canada and
simply pay for it. It would be silly to wait until you get cancer.
Canadians have alternatives too.
3. I would hazard that Canadian medicine, warts and
HiAll,
I was out on Friday looking at pick ups. I saw an 2000 S10 with a 2.8 liter engine.It had about 200,000 km on it. Any problems running BioD in this vehicle? I suspect I´ll have to get the filters changed quite often early on as the BioD will dissolve all the fossil crud. I didn´t have
Keith Thanks for your information
Even
though , there are several well
established technology that can be used to make
waste into fuel and hence also food by small
scale biorefinary in almost all countries, yet economically
grown country is moving very slow in this
sector .After reading your
From "Problems w. WVO" I wrote:
"Following directions from JtF, and with help
from Keith, Todd Swearington, and Marc A, I moved to 15L batches and this past week finished a 130L processor and have run two
batches. The first has been washed and is drying, the other is in the wash
phase."
I
You are right.
I just got overwhelmed with the amount of e-mails received, thus unable to
identify the proper ones.
Thank you!
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How to
Have you ever wondered why all oil companies sell barrel oil at the same price ? Scenario; Could it be that all the oil companies are owned by one parent company? why not most other large companies do the same thing, they will have a offshore corporation who will own an onshore LLC or LTD. The
As a Swede and living in Sweden i would like to know some
more about the taxes i am supposed to be paying...!! I feel a lack of
completeness in the posting talking about my tax rates... can not figure out
wich of the taxes that are 70% During those forty years i have been living
Thanks for your response.
I will be taking a close look to a list of links that were sent to me.
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How to make ehtanol, second
Hi All
Just anote here Iremoved anice running engine
from my 240 d after the car was crushed by a falling banyan limb I have the
engine and transmisiiopn at my mechanics shop here in Miami (Cocoanut
Grove ) if any one is interested
The falling limb happened before yesterdays
hurricane .(
Dear Pannirselvam:
Thanks for your
advise!
I was aware
that the compression needs to be increased, but there are a few ways to achieve
that, some easy, some don't.
My major
concern was about the "other components" mentioned,and stillI wasn't
able to figure out which are those.
Some sites
OK I may have come in late on this but you can cancel a permenant magnetic
field, look up magnetic vise or chuck. They are used on milling machines to
secure the workpiece. The magnets are swiched off using a lever. No power
or external device required.
Regards
Nick
-Original Message-
Hello Keith,
As I am fairly new to this list I should have done some achive research
before posting. My bad .
You obviously have spent quite some time arguing your opinion on these
political issues. I have not. I spoke from my convictions not from my
expertise.
As far as /trolling/ I must
Thanks!
Those resources are going to be very
useful!
- Original Message -
From:
Michael Redler
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 7:23
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How to make
ehtanol, second try...
"Hello there!
This is my first try at this list so excuse me if I
don't get it yet. I need to acquire a diesel vehicle before I start to
experiment with BioDiesel. I have looked at a Mercedes 300D that has not run in
about 4 years and has 165K miles on it. I think it is about a 1985. I haven't
talked to
Garth Kim Travis wrote:
Greetings,
I have lived under Canada's medical and the US system, and had cancer in
both. I will take the US system any day of the week.
Ask an American politician to say something nasty about health care,
and you're likely to hear about a
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Well I have two 75 Blazers with 6.2's no blowers. And with the over drive, I
get 20 to 23 if I don't drive to fast. Even when I tow my boat it's about the
same,
Most folks don’t like the old 6.2 but it works for me
I also have an ex ambulance. 1 ton Ford with a 7,3 pre turbo with manual
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