Re: [Biofuel] MB Diesel for bio-diesel use

2005-08-30 Thread DB
Doug, Could you please give me more info on blowing out the fuel injectors? thanksDB - Original Message - From: Douglas Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: [Biofuel] MB Diesel for bio-diesel use Peter

Re: [Biofuel] Religion, Politics Biofuels, and Illusion

2005-08-30 Thread Pannirselvam P.V
Hello Taryn Too Thank you bringing here the useful information about the reality of of our actual religion, I fully agree with your critical point .We have to have an positive and negative analysis, the illusion and also the mental help that is provided by the religion where I find the people

Re: [Biofuel] Another use for glycerine

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Montour
What is Propylene Glycol? Not as bad as it sounds from this article. Yes, the main ingredient in anti-freeze is in all of these products. Shocked? You should be! Anti-freeze is something that lowers the freezing point of water. That's not shocking; sugar or salt will do that. Also, it is

Re: [Biofuel] Religion, Politics Biofuels, and Illusion

2005-08-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Taryn, Pannirselvam Did you read this? http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/200 5-August/003230.html Or: http://snipurl.com/hb3u [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers Who Would Jesus Assassinate? Hugo Chavez and the Men Who Claim to Speak for Jesus I was

Re: [Biofuel] Another use for glycerine

2005-08-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike snip By the way, many of those items also contain Dihydrogen Monoxide! See http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html if you are not familiar with this potentially-lethal substance. It was funny the first time but less funny the 19th time.

Re: [Biofuel] Magnetic boots

2005-08-30 Thread Doug Foskey
Hi, I actually answered this before When you operate the lever, 1/2 the magnets turn over, effectively short circuiting the magnetic field (ie every second magnet flips over). When the lever is in the lock position, all the magnets line up to send the field through the workpiece. It only

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-30 Thread Doug Foskey
Hi Rumen, perhaps we should start a Linux Biodiesel list?? (LOL) I am using an IPcop firewall, which I find great. Easy to set up, and it will give you a secure wireless AP. On my machine I use Mepis linux, which is based on Debian. My systems are on 24/7. To my knowledge i have never been

Re: [Biofuel] Virus Warnings

2005-08-30 Thread Doug Foskey
Linspire is good BUT: apparently the normal install does not secure the system enough (because the default is to run the user as 'Root' (ie with full Admin rights). This is definitely not recommended. You can set a user up, but it requires some work. Distros like Mepis, on the other hand,

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Mike snip I personally think Open Source dovetails nicely with the let's move beyond allowing giant corporations to rule our lives thread that underpins many homebrewers. With a few exceptions perhaps, but I agree it's part of the homebrewers culture, or anti-culture or whatever. This is

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Darryl Keith, good idea. I'll keep track here too. It will give me an excuse to update my page at http://www.econogics.com/en/enenergy.htm#Transportation . I was thinking there was some something I wasn't thinking of, and that's it. I'd do better to link to your page, and Hakan's site

Re: [Biofuel] Problems, problems, problems

2005-08-30 Thread Keith Addison
Dag Pieter Hello all, I found a new adres where I can collect quit a bit of good quality oil, well, that is what I thought. In this oil is added what we call E900 ( a european code ) which is dimethylpolysiloxaan, to avoid the oil from foaming when they bake their chips. From this oil I get

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-30 Thread Mel Riser
Title: Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day Anyone in Texas has a few choices there is BioDrive in Addison BioWillie at Carl's corner Ecowise on Congress and Austin Biofuels on south slaughter price for b99 with the tax credit is 2.99 b100 is 3.40 and the biowillie 20/80 is

Re: [Biofuel] Query on MTBE

2005-08-30 Thread subramanian D.V
Thanks keith, I raised the matter as the petroleum marketing companies are introducingslightly costlier petrol with brand names "extra mile", "speed petrol" and "premium petrol" etc. the distributors are unable to say what is the additive. The marketing company websites are equally vague. And now

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-30 Thread Mel Riser
I just came home tonight and found 20 5 gallon jugs of WVO in my driveway. guess I'm gonna be heating some oil this weekend and getting some of the filterable stuff out before i put it in the WVO truck. My wife really got the point when I told her that EACH 5 gallon jug would run my

Re: [Biofuel] What has the world come to

2005-08-30 Thread Mel Riser
what if their religous leaders said the same thing about us? isn't that what the wahbi's and taliban and AlCIAduh all are preaching? what right do we have to interfere with another countries elected leaders. It's THEIR OIL they can CHOOSE to not sell us any if they want to. These people

Re: [Biofuel] Religion, Politics Biofuels, and Illusion

2005-08-30 Thread Pannirselvam P.V
Thank you Keith bringing here topics unknown to many of our list India and Pakistan have been always brothers as India has been always adopted to all the religion first Arians , then budha , then Muslim , then Christanism and lately all gloabised Evangelism too as religion always considerd as

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-30 Thread Michael Redler
I've become a big fan of Linux too. I plan on having a couple of distributions of Linux on machines in my house. The biggest reason (besides virus protection) is that some of the distributions available, are compatible with computers going back to windows 3.1. In addition, they all come with C

Re: [Biofuel] Warning to List Members

2005-08-30 Thread Stephan van Wyk
Look at www.ubuntulinux.org Fantastic debian flavoured os with easy setup and functional kde. (needs no gas!) Stephan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Arden B. Norder Sent: 29 August 2005 02:26 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re:

Re: [Biofuel] Problems, problems, problems

2005-08-30 Thread Pieter Koole
Thanks Keith, If the silicone is not what is gelling the BD, what else can it be ? I still make BD from other suppliers without problems, but as soon as I mix any oil from this particular adress in it, it turns hard. With hard I mean as hard as butter in a fridge, so not jelly. Ok, but IF it is

Re: [Biofuel] What has the world come to

2005-08-30 Thread Stephan van Wyk
There is no way to peace; peace is the way. (Ghandi) By this he is saying that we must simply BE in peace. And that means being non judgmental and loving - toward all creatures... At the end of the day it comes down to love and respect and forgiveness. Love and respect your neighbor Love and

Re: [Biofuel] Background statistics for energy and more....

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Yup - spent a little time there myself, as well as in West Africa. I always said if Nigerians put as much energy into legitimate business ventures as they did in trying rip each other off they's be running the world. Oh well. Obasanjo is actually cleaning things up a bit. -Mike Hakan Falk

Re: [Biofuel] Oil questions

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Where did you find that price? I've made Biodiesel from canola successfully. John Wilson wrote: Hi Has anyone tried canola oil in their oil pan as a substitute for fossil oil. If so what were the results. :http://www.rense.com/ufo/motoroil.htm How many liters in a tonne of canola oil.

[Biofuel] Anyone know if I can run 15% ethanol in an Isuzu 2.6 4banger?

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list

Re: [Biofuel] BP loses money?? Yeah, right.

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Or we boycott companies that set up offshore shells to avoid US taxes. Black and Decker, Accenture and so on, but want to use US courts, which taxes support. David M. Brockes wrote: This is why we need a Flat Tax system in this country for both Individual and Business. 8% to 12% would

Re: [Biofuel] Problems, problems, problems

2005-08-30 Thread khamhiane inthava
Dear Keith, I have followed your forum for a while. You said that "It's used here in Japan too", is that mean you are currently in Japan? The reason I asked is that if yes I would like to visite you to see physically your projects. Thanks in advance Best regards, KhamhianeKeith Addison [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Cohabitation

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Nah, the kids have their own room. Douglas Smith wrote: Michael Redler wrote: Uh oh. I'm cohabitating illegally. Wait'll I tell my GF. You know, Michael, I don't have anything against you and your girlfriend doing whatever you like in private - or any other straight couple - but must you

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
You can make a perfectly decent router/firewall with a 486. Michael Redler wrote: I've become a big fan of Linux too. I plan on having a couple of distributions of Linux on machines in my house. The biggest reason (besides virus protection) is that some of the distributions available, are

Re: [Biofuel] Religion, Politics Biofuels, and Illusion

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
I've been studying Hinduism. Fascinating. Very humbling when you realize what a blip US history is in the greater scheme of the world's timeline. Pannirselvam P.V wrote: Thank you Keith bringing here topics unknown to many of our list India and Pakistan have been always brothers as

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Get the Jetta. Mel Riser wrote: I just came home tonight and found 20 5 gallon jugs of WVO in my driveway. guess I'm gonna be heating some oil this weekend and getting some of the filterable stuff out before i put it in the WVO truck. My wife really got the point when I told her that

Re: [Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-30 Thread Bob Clark
Marty Phee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will a water heater ware out/rust out? Say if you start from a new heater. How long can you expect it to last? Marty, and all I am currently using six water heaters that have been in service for a little over five years. (One has actually been

Re: [Biofuel] Query on MTBE

2005-08-30 Thread Keith Addison
Thanks keith, I raised the matter as the petroleum marketing companies are introducing slightly costlier petrol with brand names extra mile, speed petrol and premium petrol etc. the distributors are unable to say what is the additive. The marketing company websites are equally vague. And now a

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
I totally agree. My only complaint w/ Linux is that after I install a Linux/Samba server, I never see the client again! I have servers running over 600 days. I make my living on (ick!) Windows machines. They blow up all the time. Keith Addison wrote: Hi Mike snip I personally think

Re: [Biofuel] Government Regs

2005-08-30 Thread bob allen
Right now, Arkansas does not recognize biodiesel as a motor fuel and therefore it is not taxed, at least that is what I hear from the state energy office who contacted the appropriate folks in the department of finance and administration. The best I can tell from discussions on this list was

Re: [Biofuel] US Intelligent Design Campaign and natural disaster hits oil prices.

2005-08-30 Thread bob allen
no, no Mike, the real truth about origins can be found in the following: http://www.venganza.org/ (you really need to follow the link for the graphs.) TO KANSAS SCHOOL BOARD I am writing you with much concern after having read of your hearing to decide whether the alternative theory of

Re: [Biofuel] Religion, Politics Biofuels, and Illusion

2005-08-30 Thread TarynToo
Hi Keith, et alii. On Aug 30, 2005, at 3:35 AM, Keith Addison wrote: Hello Taryn, Pannirselvam Did you read this? http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/200 5-August/003230.html Or: http://snipurl.com/hb3u [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS. followers Who Would

Re: [Biofuel] BP loses money?? Yeah, right.

2005-08-30 Thread Joe Street
What about a tax based on holdings, land, assets, material wealth basically rather than income which allows these loopholes. Those with more pay more. Joe David M. Brockes wrote: This is why we need a "Flat Tax" system in this country for both Individual and Business. 8% to 12% would

Re: [Biofuel] US Intelligent Design Campaign and natural disaster hits oil prices.

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Bob, Bob, Bob. You poor deluded fool. I think everyone knows the world exists on a Great White Handkerchief, and will end when The Great Sneeze comes. If you don't change your thinking, you, and all unbelievers, will be cast into everlasting snot. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a false

Re: [Biofuel] Cohabitation

2005-08-30 Thread Michael Redler
What!? I have kids!!? I think Doug's got the wrong Mike on that quote (as Mike Weaver already noticed). :-) Mike Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah, the kids have their own room.Douglas Smith wrote:Michael Redler wrote:"Uh oh. I'm cohabitating illegally. Wait'll I tell my GF. "You know,

Re: [Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
5-15 years, then they start leaking. Bob Clark wrote: Marty Phee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will a water heater ware out/rust out? Say if you start from a new heater. How long can you expect it to last? Marty, and all I am currently using six water heaters that have been in service for a

Re: [Biofuel] Cohabitation

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
I am the one and true Mike. This other fellow is clearly an imposter. Do not follow false Mikes. I personally will lead you into temptation. I am running for president. My slogan is: Mike Weaver for president: A troubled man for troubled times. Michael Redler wrote: What!? I have

Re: [Biofuel] Anyone know if I can run 15% ethanol in an Isuzu 2.64banger?

2005-08-30 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Mike. You could run your gasoline vehicle on 15% methanol, BUT the methanol is quite aggressive and may cause corrosion in your fuel system quite rapidly. If your car is equipped with a carburettor, you should adjust the CO exhaust value, when running on methanol/gasoline, according to the

Re: [Biofuel] Query on MTBE

2005-08-30 Thread Joe Street
I remember hearing something about toxic fuel additives here in Canada years ago. The story was basically that an additive was known to be harmful and present in exhaust emissions (or some harmful byproduct of combustion of the additive) and it was still being used and the manufacturer was

Re: [Biofuel] Anyone know if I can run 15% ethanol in an Isuzu 2.64banger?

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Yikes. After that I plan to run in the opposite direction. I have and 88 gas Trooper I use to haul WVO and crap. It's EFI. Thanks for the info! Jan Warnqvist wrote: Hello Mike. You could run your gasoline vehicle on 15% methanol, BUT the methanol is quite aggressive and may cause corrosion

Re: [Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Sorry, that's false. It should have read: A water heater will not leak unless you are on vacation. Mike Weaver wrote: 5-15 years, then they start leaking. Bob Clark wrote: Marty Phee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will a water heater ware out/rust out? Say if you start from a new heater.

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-30 Thread Greg and April
Perhaps you would like to share the secret with us uninformed. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:09 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft You can make a perfectly decent

Re: [Biofuel] Oil questions

2005-08-30 Thread Bob Clark
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/marketquotes/HU.html I don't know where John got his price but this is a link where you can check the daily price of canola oil (and a lot of other oils and grains as well). You can also keep up with the fossil prices if you want an idea of where the rest of

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
No. Then it wouldn't be a secret, would it? Bwahaha Try http://www.freesco.org/ or leaf.sourceforge.net or http://lrp.steinkuehler.net/ I've done it with a 486/66 w/ 32 MB and 2 3c507 cards. Plenty fast. Also look up DSL linux. Good luck! Greg and April wrote: Perhaps you would like to

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-30 Thread TarynToo
On Aug 30, 2005, at 8:19 AM, Mike Weaver wrote: I totally agree. My only complaint w/ Linux is that after I install a Linux/Samba server, I never see the client again! I have servers running over 600 days. I make my living on (ick!) Windows machines. They blow up all the time. ROFL

Re: [Biofuel] Query on MTBE

2005-08-30 Thread Darryl McMahon
I think it was MMT. MMT is a manganese-based compound that is added to gasoline to enhance octane and reduce engine knocking. Canadian legislators are concerned that the manganese in MMT emissions poses a significant public health risk. In addition, automobile manufacturers have long argued

Re: [Biofuel] US Intelligent Design Campaign and natural disaster hits oil prices.

2005-08-30 Thread TarynToo
Thank you Bob, this is too funny, Also have a look at these disclaimer stickers. http://www.swarthmore.edu/NatSci/cpurrin1/textbookdisclaimers/ Taryn ornae.com On Aug 30, 2005, at 8:32 AM, bob allen wrote: no, no Mike, the real truth about origins can be found in the following:

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
I spent 5 years trying to move my clients to Linux for their servers. Mostly I succeded. I haven't had much luck with Linux on the desktop, and have pretty much given up the figt, which is funny because it's about where it needs to be! I think OSX is the best thing going and use it for my

Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program

2005-08-30 Thread capt3d
no doubt under the pretext of liberating the canadian people from the injustice of a universal health care system. -chris b. In a message dated 8/24/05 7:46:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Suppose Canada decides that it will demand (which is our right) what it wants for that oil?. . .How

[Biofuel] How much?

2005-08-30 Thread Marty Phee
How much is a bbl of say soy oil or palm oil. I'm not sure where to look online. bbls of this oil are 55gals right? Not the 42gals of crude oil. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Problems, problems, problems

2005-08-30 Thread bob allen
Pieter, I agree with Kieth, it probably is not the anti-foaming agent which is there in parts per million conc(?). Have you titrated the stuff? Maybe a very high free fatty acid content? Or maybe it is all saturated fat? Another possibility is that something is extracted into the cooking

[Biofuel] Oil Question

2005-08-30 Thread John Wilson
Hi Mike, I got the price from:http://www.advfn.com/p.php?pid=commoditiesnopu=uCCKBtzSc1ihTGQhlEp7%2F WRKB3rpHYZsUyZ%2BHa3JDSl3LP8JS69FS5tYIU7PHr%2FQ I see this morning Jan Canola futures are trading at 294. I think that was a mistake on my part it said Canola(WCE) and not Canola oil. I

Re: [Biofuel] BP loses money?? Yeah, right.

2005-08-30 Thread bob allen
Howdy David, a flat tax would just reward the rich with lower taxes and punish the impoverished with taxes they didn't have before. The flat tax also will not address the flight of corporations to tax havens. flat tax- bad idea. David M. Brockes wrote: This is why we need a Flat Tax system

Re: [Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-30 Thread Marty Phee
Thanks for the info. My friend and I are going to do this. I'd like to start with a proven design and go from there and he has grand plans of how to do everything. I really don't have room to do it and he does so I need to give him leeway in the design. Bob Clark wrote: Marty Phee [EMAIL

[Biofuel] Solar panals or wind

2005-08-30 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi All, If climate change occurs from global warming do solar panels make more sense to buy or will wind be better. My thoughts go toward wind. If the temperature expected occur, many areas will have more cloudy days from all of the extra moisture evaporated into the atmosphere from the

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-30 Thread Marty Phee
http://linuxrouter.org/ Greg and April wrote: Perhaps you would like to share the secret with us uninformed. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:09 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and

Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program

2005-08-30 Thread capt3d
actually, from a strategic military standpoint, this is an extremely wise practice. in any high attrition conflict (read: protracted a/o bloody war), the human resources are depleted well before the hardware. trained pilots are about the most difficult personnel to replace and their loss

Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program

2005-08-30 Thread Joe Street
LOL true we need someone to save us from a certain slow agonizing death in a hospital waiting room. A student of this university died recently after turning away from a huge waiting line with a case of viral meningitis. This is outrageous especially in a country where we pay so much tax. So

Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program

2005-08-30 Thread Joe Street
Except the loss of a pilot is most likely accompanied by the loss of an aircraft so when they are all gone what good does it do to have a bunch of trained pilots standing around with nothing to fly?? Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually, from a strategic military standpoint, this is an

Re: [Biofuel] Iran's Nuclear Program

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Don't laugh. Anything could happen under this regime. I personally will never ever take up arms against Canada but be don't surprised if you start to see Canada (surely our greatest friend in the world) demonized in the next 10 years as a pretext to invasion. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no

Re: [Biofuel] BP loses money?? Yeah, right.

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Besides, we already have a Flat Head Tax in most states. It's called the lottery. It's a tax on stupid people, and it falls unfairly on those least able to afford it. bob allen wrote: Howdy David, a flat tax would just reward the rich with lower taxes and punish the impoverished with taxes

Re: [Biofuel] Oil Question

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Anyone know where I could buy 300 gallons of canola? John Wilson wrote: Hi Mike, I got the price from:http://www.advfn.com/p.php?pid=commoditiesnopu=uCCKBtzSc1ihTGQhlEp7%2F WRKB3rpHYZsUyZ%2BHa3JDSl3LP8JS69FS5tYIU7PHr%2FQ I see this morning Jan Canola futures are trading at 294. I think

Re: [Biofuel] How much?

2005-08-30 Thread Appal Energy
Marty, Commodities such as vegetable oils and animal phats are sold by the pound weight. Search the Chicago Board of Trade for pricing and then convert to gallons using the multiplier of ~7.6#s per gallon. Todd Swearingen Marty Phee wrote: How much is a bbl of say soy oil or palm oil. I'm

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panals or wind

2005-08-30 Thread Mel Riser
You need both Wind and solar. Chances are when it is windy the clouds maybe covering the nuclear reactor. When its sunny no wind. You need BOTH Mel Who has had a little experience with an AWP turbine. But my next one is a bergey 10kw Ohh. -Original

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panals or wind

2005-08-30 Thread Michael Redler
Tom, In my opinion,one shouldn't be choosingand committing to a particular form of alternative/sustainable energywhen trying to live sustainably on your own power. Our homesneed to be seen as hybrids and should be constantly diversifying and prioritizing based on your needs, resources and

Re: [Biofuel] Query on MTBE

2005-08-30 Thread Fred Enga
No, That would be MMT, a manganese based octane improver used instead of lead. It has less harmful effects than lead, but is still bad. Cheers Fred Enga -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Joe StreetSent: August 30, 2005 6:36

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panals or wind

2005-08-30 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, I am a fan of using solar collectors to fire a stirling engine that can also be fired with methane. Small solar panels for stuff that is used primarily in the daytime, wind power that can be home repaired. And the generator that is fire by the stirling can be run off the pto of the

Re: [Biofuel] Religion, Politics Biofuels, and Illusion

2005-08-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Taryn Hi Keith, et alii. On Aug 30, 2005, at 3:35 AM, Keith Addison wrote: Hello Taryn, Pannirselvam Did you read this? http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/200 5-August/003230.html Or: http://snipurl.com/hb3u [Biofuel] Robertson et al VS.

[Biofuel] Japan - was Re: Problems, problems, problems

2005-08-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Khamhiane Dear Keith, I have followed your forum for a while. Well, it's its own forum really, I'm just one of the staff. You said that It's used here in Japan too, is that mean you are currently in Japan? Yes, it says so on our home page. A lot of what we're doing here isn't on our

Re: [Biofuel] How to make ehtanol, second try.......

2005-08-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Pannirselvam It's always a pleasure to read your posts, thankyou! Keith Thanks for your information You're welcome. Even though , there are several well established technology that can be used to make waste into fuel and hence also food by small scale

Re: [Biofuel] Sept 1 declared no buy gas day

2005-08-30 Thread Brian Rodgers
Damn. I wish people would check validity of stuff before they send it around. I have received one or two per day of these bogus emails about sticking it up their collective behinds. I wish more people would write something, anything in their own words and send it around to all their friends.

[Biofuel] Solar panels

2005-08-30 Thread Manzo, Emil
About 8-9 months ago I read a report about a man who invented a process that yielded a high-efficiency solar panel. Like 90%. The process reminded me of the way they make super high density integrated circuits. His website was ardev.com and when I went back again it went down (I think its

Re: [Biofuel] How much?

2005-08-30 Thread Marty Phee
The price for soy says 23'10. I would assume that's $0.2310/#. Appal Energy wrote: Marty, Commodities such as vegetable oils and animal phats are sold by the pound weight. Search the Chicago Board of Trade for pricing and then convert to gallons using the multiplier of ~7.6#s per gallon.

Re: [Biofuel] Bush's Obscene Tirades

2005-08-30 Thread Brian Rodgers
a friend sent me this. Keep in mind, it's from a liberal Web site. But even if only part of it is true, it's still pretty scary. http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7267.shtml Bush's Obscene Tirades Rattle White House Aides By DOUG THOMPSON Aug 25, 2005, 06:19 While

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panals or wind

2005-08-30 Thread des
Garth Kim Travis wrote: Greetings, I am a fan of using solar collectors to fire a stirling engine that can also be fired with methane. Small solar panels for stuff that is used primarily in the daytime, wind power that can be home repaired. And the generator that is fire by the

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panels

2005-08-30 Thread Michael Redler
I haven't heard of anything much higher than 30 percent efficient. Mike See also: "An unexpected discovery could yield a full spectrum solar cell"Nov 18, 2002 http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/MSD-full-spectrum-solar-cell.html A Step Closer to the Optimum Solar Cell March 24, 2004

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panels

2005-08-30 Thread Joe Street
I wonder if it had to do with Gallium Indium Nitride? Check this link http://www.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/MSD-perfect-solar-cell.html In a nutshell it works by varying the doping level of indium in Gallium Nitride so as to smoothly taper the bandgap of the material from low to high

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panals or wind

2005-08-30 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, I hate batteries. That is why I want a system that I can power with methane if I need power when the sun is not shining. I use almost no power after the sun goes down, most of the year. We do not watch tv or other wasteful appetites for power, but, I do sometimes like to sew at

[Biofuel] Simple twist of fate...

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
From my limited experience in Latin America I always felt the EV's were making inroads because they had enough sense to actually have local people in positions of authority, where as most (not all, Jaime Sin comes to mind) Catholic big-wigs were white. I will say that when I was working in

Re: [Biofuel] Japan - was Re: Problems, problems, problems

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Hi Khamhiane, If you happen to be anywhere near the SE US I can reccommend the Piedmont Biofuels tour. They are quite friendly and put up with me asking them questions for hours. There also quite a few other BD plants scattered in the US. Good luck. -Mike Keith Addison wrote: Hello

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panels

2005-08-30 Thread Hakan Falk
Emil, I think that you ca assume that it was BS, because to only to get a surface to absorb 90%, would be very difficult. If you managed to absorb 90%, your conversion process to electricity would then have 100% efficiency at always? Maybe the site do better in selling flowers. The highest

Re: [Biofuel] Another use for glycerine

2005-08-30 Thread John Hayes
Nancy Canning wrote: - Original Message - From: John Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Another use for glycerine Nancy Canning wrote: Propylene glycol as it is used tons and tons of products

Re: [Biofuel] Another use for glycerine

2005-08-30 Thread Ray J
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has classified propylene glycol as generally recognized as safe, which means that it is acceptable for use in flavorings, drugs, and cosmetics, and as a direct food additive. * Ethylene glycol is only mildly irritating to mucous membranes or

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panals or wind

2005-08-30 Thread Darryl McMahon
The best result will depend entirely on the specific circumstances. Not all places boast good solar or wind energy resources. Could be both, one or the other or neither in any specific location. That requires analysis (data logging or existing insolation or wind maps can only provide

Re: [Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-30 Thread AntiFossil
Marty, and all, I have to respectfully disagree with Bob C. on this one. The days of freebies are still very much alive! It might just be an issue of where you seek your freebies : ) Since approx. March of this year, I have been able to get 18 used water heaters. My only cost has been the time,

[Biofuel] Katrina slams New Orleans. Is There Blame?

2005-08-30 Thread TarynToo
I live in South Florida, on high(ish) ground. Katrina came past and gave my neighborhood a teeny slap, on her way out to the gulf. Now 1.5 million people are homeless, jobless, and in shock, just from New Orleans alone. Entrepreneurs and businesses have always gone where the resources are.

[Biofuel] Katrina slams New Orleans. Is There Blame?

2005-08-30 Thread TarynToo
I live in South Florida, on high(ish) ground. Katrina came past and gave my neighborhood a little slap, on her way out to the warm gulf waters, where she organized into a cat 5 hurricane. Now 1.5 million people are homeless, jobless, and in shock, just from New Orleans alone. There's no

Re: [Biofuel] Katrina slams... Oops, double post.

2005-08-30 Thread TarynToo
Sorry, the earlier posting (20:35:45) is incomplete, I had no idea it went out until I noticed the double post on the archives. Keith, It's hardly important, but I wondered if there is a simple way to toss duplicates and accidents from the archives? Taryn ornae.com

Re: [Biofuel] Problems, problems, problems

2005-08-30 Thread Pieter Koole
No, I did not titrate, but made 9 batches of 20 ml in a tube, starting at 3½ gram / ltr of oil, next 4 grams per liter, 4½ grams/ltr etc. In this way I have made a lot of BD now and it works fine. There was no difference at all, they all turned hard and the color was like coffee with milk. The

Re: [Biofuel] Religion, Politics Biofuels, and Illusion

2005-08-30 Thread Jeromie Reeves
:-( The browser history keeps the urls, why doesn't it keep the whole threads? Firefox (or any mozilia browser) + Slogger = Never lose a page and make your history fully searchable. It is very handy and I find the ability to take my bookmarks with me. Jeromie

Re: [Biofuel] BP loses money?? Yeah, right.

2005-08-30 Thread Jeromie Reeves
bob allen wrote: Howdy David, a flat tax would just reward the rich with lower taxes and punish the impoverished with taxes they didn't have before. See #2 The flat tax also will not address the flight of corporations to tax havens. flat tax- bad idea. Its a good idea. Yes it doesnt

[Biofuel] Mikes everywhere I look!

2005-08-30 Thread Douglas Smith
Mike someone wrote G>: What!? I have kids!!? I think Doug's got the wrong Mike on that quote (as Mike Weaver already noticed). :-) Mike Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nah, the kids have their own room. Douglas Smith wrote: Michael Redler wrote: Uh oh. I'm cohabitating illegally.

Re: [Biofuel] Linux, virii and Microsoft

2005-08-30 Thread Brian Rodgers
Oh well. No good deed goes unpunished! Scary but true, Mike. I have shifted my business to PC repair from a small DSL company because most people use Microsoft products and the monopoly Qwest killed the old business. We live in the mountains a short distance from our business. At the same time as

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panals or wind

2005-08-30 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Why do you hate batteries? They are a needed device. I would rather have a hydrogen PEM fuel cell setup. Use wind to feed a water seperation tank then feed the H2/O2 to the hPEM. Only use the hPEM when power beyond the wind source is needed, or at locations remote from the wind fed grid.

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panels

2005-08-30 Thread Manzo, Emil
Hi Joe, thanks for the link. On page 2 it states: Indium gallium nitride solar cells could be made. approaching the maximum theoretical efficiencies of better than 70 percent. The article I read centered on the patent of a deposition process. I dont remember the elements used though.

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panals or wind

2005-08-30 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Regardless of the climate changes wind is cheaper by far. lets say you need 25Kw/H per day (that is my average use) This assumes no storage facility and constant production Solar you have MAYBE 12 hours/day to make electricity. Of that you can only count on 25% to be producing MAX panel power.

[Biofuel] BP stations for sale

2005-08-30 Thread Bob Clark
snip Well, then I guess we can expect to see BP putting all their gasoline stations up for sale. After all, the managers are required to maximize the returns for their shareholders. If the stations are losing money, they have to dump them. I won't be holding my breath. snip All the BP

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