Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel

2005-09-16 Thread Scott Brown
Diesel fuel filters and fuel / water separators for fuel lines in truck engines are from 30 microns down to 5. I've seen one fuel / water separator that claims 2 microns. - Original Message - From: Ed Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Greg and April
Just to start debate on something I think about everyday, when I get into my LandCruiser. I wonder how much extra fuel is being used, because of the small engine size, climbing all the hills around here. Still, I'm not knocking the 20 mpg I'm getting now, I just keep thinking it could get better

Re: [Biofuel] pussy makes car Purrrrrr

2005-09-16 Thread John Donahue
This article is posted above Bede wrote: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2ObjectID=10345772 A German has angered animal rights groups by inventing an organic fuel containing run-over cat remains. Inventor Christian Koch, 55, of Saxony, told the Bild newspaper he had

Re: [Biofuel] Question about E85

2005-09-16 Thread kent snyder
you can check to see if your car will run e85 @ wwwe85fuel.comAngela Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if anything has to be done to the fuel system if you're planning on running E-85 in your vehicle? I have heard conflicting stories. I have a 2001 Chevy Impala that I would fill up

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello David, Zeke. The problem with diesel engines is that it until now has been difficult to mix the fuel and the air into a homogenous mixture. Gasoline (or even ethanol that matter )are much more voilate and mixes more easily with air. The black diesel smoke occurs when there is local oxygen

[Biofuel] MEPs caught up in hydrogen hype?

2005-09-16 Thread Frantz DESPREZ
http://www.euractiv.com/Article?_lang=ENtcmuri=tcm:29-144195-16type=News Several MEPs called on 12 September for a fundamental shift away from the oil era into the green hydrogen economy. But is their initiative based on science or inspired by political hype? FD

[Biofuel] The biofuel puzzle

2005-09-16 Thread Rexis Tree
Hi everyone, New here, greetings. :D I hv been doing some readings regarding energy and fuel. And i find this biofuel stuff very interesting. And so i follow the topic for sometime. Dig into clean efficient performance diesel engines, even pick my favourite model of vehicle i gonna get

[Biofuel] pure ethanol

2005-09-16 Thread salaf udin
making pure ethanol is difficult because there is azeotrop phenomena in ethanol-water mixture. I have tried to make pure ethanol by reaction the liquid with lime. I get 99% ethanol H2O + CaO ---Ca(OH)2. Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Tom Irwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I still have

Re: [Biofuel] MEPs caught up in hydrogen hype?

2005-09-16 Thread Rexis Tree
When i was highschool, i was worrying that if all vehicle burning hydrogen and take oxygen from our atmosphere, we will all run out of oxygen!(since plants only take in CO2 and release O2) Electrolysis will produce hydrogen and oxygen also, but if we all lack of oxygen then the oxygen produced

[Biofuel] turbo diesels

2005-09-16 Thread Darryl West
Hi I am a newbie to the biodiesel world and am keen to start creating my own fuel. I have managed to scavenge materials to make a basic processor, but have a simple question before making biodiesel and putting in my car. Is there any known effect in adding biodiesel to a turbo diesel

Re: [Biofuel] turbo diesels

2005-09-16 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Darryl, I can only rewiev results from surveys in the litterature, suggesting that the exhaust values are improving if the engine is over-charged. This goes for biodiesel as well as petro diesel. Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: Darryl West To:

Re: [Biofuel] pussy makes car Purrrrrr

2005-09-16 Thread alex burton
I May well be wrong and i hope so animal rights groups what about human rights? but at the end of wwII the germans had a fuel shortage. I so hope i am wrong with this ! The Germans used (recycled) everything from the DEATH camps. They cooked the dead humans In the

Re: [Biofuel] pussy makes car Purrrrrr

2005-09-16 Thread felixocat
Feline Groovy German inventor denies using dead cats to make biodiesel German inventor Christian Koch says he's patented a way to convert trash into eco-friendly, high-quality biodiesel fuel that costs one-fifth the going price of diesel in his home country. To produce the alternative fuel,

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel in SC

2005-09-16 Thread Rachel Burton
Hello Folks in South Carolina, If you are interested in learning more about making biodiesel, I invite you to take a road trip up here to central North Carolina. Every Sunday afternoon we give free tour of our farm small scale biodiesel production facility in Moncure, North Carolina.

[Biofuel] PEEE YEEEUUU BAD FAT

2005-09-16 Thread JJJN
I just aquired some WVO from the restraunt and It smells like a rancid rendering plant. Is this stuff worth using to make Bio? I heated it up to drive off the water but it is really dark. I have not titrated it yet. I am not sure I even want to touch it any more Yucky stuff.. Will this

[Biofuel] Fw: ethanol

2005-09-16 Thread francisco j burgos
- Original Message - From: "Ken Provost" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method - Original Message - From: francisco j burgos To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 16,

Re: [Biofuel] pussy makes car Purrrrrr

2005-09-16 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Alex and all I May well be wrong and i hope so animal rights groups what about human rights? Indeed. But in the end, if it's going to work right, it amounts to the same thing. Meanwhile: $17 billion a year is spent on pet food in Europe and the United States. Debt relief for the 20

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats

2005-09-16 Thread Keith Addison
I followed a link in another thread to www.slashdot.org and found this: BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- A German inventor said he has developed a method to produce crude oil products from waste that he believes can be an answer to the soaring costs of fuel, but denied a German newspaper story

Re: [Biofuel] PEEE YEEEUUU BAD FAT

2005-09-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I don't know if it can be used or not. When running WVO directly, we only used stuff that smelled good. The dark color may be okay, if it is still clear, not murky and opaque. I have bought commercial biodiesel that was supposedly ASTM certified, but smelled rancid too. Personally, I wouldn't

[Biofuel] fuel from dead turkeys, and plasma technology

2005-09-16 Thread Andy Karpay
I've followed this one since seeing an article in Discover magazine, and having worked on a similar project http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/11/1125_031125_turkeyoil.ht ml One of many such technologies. http://www.magnegas.com/ I can also post pictures of the device I built that

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method

2005-09-16 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Ken, Yes, I've read that but I'm trying to avoid using anything petro based. Yeah, I know I'm being a purist but I have some spare time. Thanks, Tom From: Ken Provost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 22:06:46 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel]

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats

2005-09-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
As disgusting as we (I) may find making fuel out of animals, there is already an entire industry devoted to turning dead animals (mostly farm animals such as cows, chickens, horses etc) into various products. Soap. Glue. Food for other supposedly vegetarian animals such as cows (mad cow

Re: [Biofuel] turbo diesels

2005-09-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
The injection system should be the deciding factor on how well biodiesel or SVO will run in a diesel engine. As far as I know, the presence or absence of a turbo doesn't affect it as far as will it work. It may affect emisions I suppose. Since some people report a little less power with

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
The stock transmission was a close ratio 5 speed, which ends up doing about 4k rpm at 70mph. The only way I can explain this low gearing is 1) it was designed for towing (not likely in a rabbit) 2) it was designed to reduce the space between gearing, for faster accelleration 3) the gas engine is

Re: [Biofuel] MEPs caught up in hydrogen hype?

2005-09-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
It feel like saying to live forever you must replace your meat and bones with cyborg parts and seal your brain in a titanium case, but we will need a massive RD effort and major investment to make this happen. I agree. I think that there is alot of technical potential to hydrogen, and I

Re: [Biofuel] PEEE YEEEUUU BAD FAT

2005-09-16 Thread ROY Washbish
Do your titration and you will know what you have. Besy Luck Roy Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if it can be used or not. When running WVO directly, weonly used stuff that smelled good. The dark color may be okay, if itis still clear, not murky and opaque. I have bought

Re: [Biofuel] changing trash into fuel

2005-09-16 Thread marilyn
Andy wrote: “If interested, I can find links to those doing it.” I am interested because I’m building a database of energy and food production information for a group creating a model farm to train people in food, fuel and energy self-reliance. Thanks, Andy. Marilyn Andy also wrote: “Anyone

[Biofuel] World's Top Firms Fail to Tackle Climate Change Challenge

2005-09-16 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0915-04.htm Published on Thursday, September 15, 2005 by the Independent/UK World's Top Firms Fail to Tackle Climate Change Challenge by Michael Harrison Most of the world's biggest companies are failing to cut their carbon emissions even though the

[Biofuel] Katrina oil spills may be among worst on record

2005-09-16 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.guardian.co.uk/katrina/story/0,16441,1571591,00.html Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | Katrina oil spills may be among worst on record Julian Borger in Washington and John Vidal Friday September 16, 2005 The Guardian The oil pollution in the wake of Hurricane Katrina could be

[Biofuel] New Report Warns of Rising Threat to U.S. Insurers due to Climate Change

2005-09-16 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.wbcsd.ch/Plugins/DocSearch/details.asp?strDocTypeIdList=749 DocType=749StrCharValList=254DateStart=01.01.1753DateEnd=31.12.999 9MenuId=NDA1ObjectId=16443URLBack=%2Ftemplates%2FTemplateWBCSD2%2Fl ayout%2Easp%3Ftype%3Dp%26MenuId%3DNDA1%2 Or: http://snipurl.com/hqba New Report Warns of

[Biofuel] Mercedes-Benz unveil hybrid concepts

2005-09-16 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.greenconsumerguide.com/index.php?news=2772 Mercedes-Benz unveil hybrid concepts Friday 16 September 2005 Mercedes-Benz has revealed two new concept cars designed to dramatically reduce emissions and raise fuel consumption, at the International Motor Show in Frankfurt. Based on the

[Biofuel] World Leaders Shake Heads as Reforms to Check Nuclear Arms Spread Dumped

2005-09-16 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0915-06.htm Published on Thursday, September 15, 2005 by Agence France Presse World Leaders Shake Heads as Reforms to Check Nuclear Arms Spread Dumped Kofi Annan has called it a disgrace and Australian Prime Minister John Howard termed it a major

[Biofuel] Why our current agriculture and food production is not sustainable

2005-09-16 Thread Keith Addison
The Institute of Science in Society Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk This article can be found on the I-SIS website at http://www.i-sis.org.uk/PFSFSNG.php ISIS Press Release 14/09/05 Policies for Sustainable Food Systems, National and Global Michael Meacher Why our

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Apparently not. I was referring to a VW GTI in an earlier post and didn't realize you weren't. Sorry. Zeke On 9/16/05, Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ??? Are we talking about the same type of vehicle? I'm talking about a '85 Toyota LandCruiser BJ60 with a 3B engine. IIRC,

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Greg and April
The 4 banger is original equipment. The trannie is a manual 5 sp. Greg H. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 14:51 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement? My advice from a practical

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
If your time is worth anything to you I doubt you'd ever make it back on a $$ basis for the fuel saved. I didn't think that this was about saving money. I thought it was about reducing carbon emissions or something like that.For me the most cost effective thing certainly wasn't parking my

[Biofuel] lite blend?

2005-09-16 Thread Brent S
At what point does a biodiesel blend's effect become neglagable? I bring up this point after reading the directions on a bottle of canola based fuel addative that is made localy, and sells for over$15/l. The directions suggest to add 1 litre to 1000 litres of diesel. In my unprofesional

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Greg and April
??? Are we talking about the same type of vehicle? I'm talking about a '85 Toyota LandCruiser BJ60 with a 3B engine. IIRC, the engine is runs around 2700-2800 rpm at 75 mph. At sea level the 3B is about 95 Hp, but, starts to have breathing problems at 3,000 ft, and I'm at 5500 ft and make

Re: [Biofuel] changing trash into fuel

2005-09-16 Thread Greg and April
It is a very energy intensive operation. The question is does it pay back enough fuel, to make it worth while? Greg H. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 14:13 Subject: [Biofuel] changing trash into

Re: [Biofuel] lite blend?

2005-09-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
If the blend is purely for lubricity (as opposed to emissions reductions), then can a 0.1% concentration do anything? I know that 2% biodiesel is supposed to restore lubricity to the low sulpher fuel, but if it is selling for 15 times the price of biodiesel, maybe it is better and a 0.1%

Re: [Biofuel] World's Top Firms Fail to Tackle Climate Change Challenge

2005-09-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
The study says that in the most extreme circumstances the cost of meeting tougher curbs on carbon emissions could wipe as much as 45 per cent from the annual profits of some companies such as big American power producers. Steel and mining companies could see reductions in earnings of as much as 20

[Biofuel] People Are Human-Bacteria Hybrid

2005-09-16 Thread Kirk McLoren
We are not alone :) *People Are Human-Bacteria Hybrid *http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0%2C1286%2C65252%2C00.html*Excerpts: *Most of the cells in your body are not your own, nor are they even human. They are bacterial. From the invisible strands of fungi waiting to sprout between our toes, to

Re: [Biofuel] lite blend?

2005-09-16 Thread Ken Dunn
On 9/16/05, Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or maybe someone has just found a new way to make money of gullible consumers. Seems to me that this were the case, they would tell you to use more. They make more money that way. Kinda like the directions on the detergent box that tell you that

[Biofuel] [ARTICLE] Organic vs. conventional farming: yields, external costs

2005-09-16 Thread dwoodard
In response to one of Rexis Tree's questions. Biofuel may have a problem with competition for land with food and wildlife, but I don't think that we need fear lower yields with organic farming. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario -- Forwarded message -- The Institute of

[Biofuel] pussy makes car Purrrrrr - was a theoritical point

2005-09-16 Thread felixocat
Feline Groovy German inventor denies using dead cats to make biodiesel German inventor Christian Koch says he's patented a way to convert trash into eco-friendly, high-quality biodiesel fuel that costs one-fifth the going price of diesel in his home country. To produce the alternative

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Trevon Kollars
I agree with Taryn. I am to the point where I am going to be making my own vehicles. The automotive industry is regressing instead of progressing in the ecological responsibility. However, people want better, more attractive, faster "luxury" cars, so the industry is catering to this just to make

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Chris Chuck McGuire
I would be inclined to think that turbocharging, or possibly supercharging the engine would be a better alternative. Of course you will have to fabricate all of the parts, and I would wager that the injector pump won't be able to deliver the extra fuel that significant boost would require for

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats

2005-09-16 Thread capt3d
anybody ever see the episode of the odd couple where felix gives a frog hydrotherapy by putting its injured leg (it had supposedly sprained an ankle or something) in a blender full of warm water? aah, good times. . . . -chris b. In a message dated 9/16/05 9:42:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] ethanol method

2005-09-16 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Bob, I use density to determine the purity of the ethanol and a mass balance to check on my 3A regeneration technique. I have a fairly good Metler balance (PR 203) that reads to the third decimal place so should be accurate to the second. The procedure I'm trying to duplicate is the one on

Re: [Biofuel] turbo diesels

2005-09-16 Thread damiandolan
Hi All, am running townace turbo-diesel no probs, 1992 with 170k on clock, just keep good oil as lube critical, good luck and enjoy ;^) dD Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: - Find the home of your dreams with eircom net

Re: [Biofuel] lite blend?

2005-09-16 Thread Keith Addison
If the blend is purely for lubricity (as opposed to emissions reductions), then can a 0.1% concentration do anything? I know that 2% biodiesel is supposed to restore lubricity to the low sulpher fuel, but if it is selling for 15 times the price of biodiesel, maybe it is better and a 0.1%

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats

2005-09-16 Thread Keith Addison
As disgusting as we (I) may find making fuel out of animals, there is already an entire industry devoted to turning dead animals (mostly farm animals such as cows, chickens, horses etc) into various products. Soap. Glue. Food for other supposedly vegetarian animals such as cows (mad cow

Re: [Biofuel] [ARTICLE] Organic vs. conventional farming: yields, external costs

2005-09-16 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Doug In response to one of Rexis Tree's questions. Biofuel may have a problem with competition for land with food and wildlife, See: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg18745.html Re: Biofuels hold key to future of British farming

[Biofuel] advancement of car technology

2005-09-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
This is a funny (but I think pretty damning too) editorial on how what is considered a car with good gas mileage today, is no better than what was possible 30 years ago. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2005/09/16/notes091605.DTLnl=fix

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Greg and April
No problem. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 9:49 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement? Apparently not. I was referring to a VW GTI in an earlier post and didn't realize you

[Biofuel] Wood cellulose breakdown, termites, and methane

2005-09-16 Thread des
from the site: http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ritter/geog101/textbook/atmosphere/atmospheric_composition_p2.html Methane Methane (CH4) is a greenhouse gas contributing about 18% to global warming and has been on the rise over the last several decades. Methane is a product of the

Re: [Biofuel] Wood cellulose breakdown, termites, and methane

2005-09-16 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Des. First, there is a need to separate the oxigen from the gases of the atmosphere before bottling their exhaust or it is a route for trouble with sparks. Regards. Juan -Mensaje original- De: des [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: Viernes 16 de Septiembre de 2005 1:58 PM

Re: [Biofuel] Wood cellulose breakdown, termites, and methane

2005-09-16 Thread Zeke Yewdall
What if we could use the methane/air mixture as it was generated by the termites, rather than storing it? Does anyone have some back of the envelope calculations for how much BTU/hr content you could get from a given sized pile of wood filled with termites? On 9/16/05, Juan Boveda [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Wood cellulose breakdown, termites, and methane

2005-09-16 Thread des
Not yet... still Googling through the termites=bad:methane=bad sites. Zeke Yewdall wrote: What if we could use the methane/air mixture as it was generated by the termites, rather than storing it? Does anyone have some back of the envelope calculations for how much BTU/hr content you could

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Darryl McMahon
Hi Greg, now we're getting to something specific enough to work with. Just to start debate on something I think about everyday, when I get into my LandCruiser. I wonder how much extra fuel is being used, because of the small engine size, climbing all the hills around here. Still, I'm not

[Biofuel] Q to Prof. Bob Allen Re: Na2SO4

2005-09-16 Thread Chris
Dear Prof.Allen: Good day! Can final drying of BD can be done with anhydrous Na2S04? We use it all the time in organic chem lab. Can Na2SO4 be regenerated, perhaps by heating, and then reused? Best regards, Chris ___ Biofuel

[Biofuel] Alternative Help for Katrina Victims

2005-09-16 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Here a Mail from a Volonteer from Montreal working in NO as Nurse F.F There are progressive alternatives to the Red Cross to make a hurricanerelief donation. The Red Cross is very tied into the military's hurricaneresponse that has created the chaos and exerted dis-respectful control

Re: [Biofuel] [ARTICLE] Organic vs. conventional farming: yields, external costs

2005-09-16 Thread Rexis Tree
Love the idea of small organic farms, love the idea of square foot farm, disagree to dedicated big farms which only produce one crop, hate to visit petro station, love bugs, love plants. love to try out compost(no way at 11th floor apartment which im staying now, last time tried to pile up a

Re: [Biofuel] Debatable statement?

2005-09-16 Thread Hurley, Edward R
Chuck, FYI, If you look back in the archives on this thread (Hurley, Edward R Tue, 13 Sep 2005 11:56:50 -0700)you will see what I did to make my 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4 move from ~17 mpg @ 70 mph to ~23 mpg @ the same speed. It included a gear vendor out-drive and a mild banks kit. We took a trip the

Re: [Biofuel] advancement of car technology

2005-09-16 Thread Rexis Tree
This is simply sad, very sad. Absolutely we have the technology, this is as far as the imanagination goes. Yeah we can design a metro city with zero highways, zero emission, railway only, clean and green city, well, in SimCity. Too bad those in charged people never willing to play the real Sim

Re: [Biofuel] pussy makes car Purrrrrr

2005-09-16 Thread TarynToo
Hi Alex, On Sep 16, 2005, at 5:36 AM, alex burton wrote: I May well be wrong and i hope so ... I am not anti german in anyway. I am more asking the question if the lepard  tanks that had such  deverstating power were run on a fuel that may have been human fat. This hole concept sickens