Quick question, we're exhausing ourselves looking for a bulk-supplier
of lye/caustic soda/NaOH. I've found some solutions online, but they
are extremely expensive. It seems odd to me that 55 gallon drums of
methanol has been easy, while Lye has been difficult. Actually, Ace
Hardware has been the
Hey Community,
I'm curious...Canola (Canada Oil Low Acid) oil in
North American is specifically bred and marketing
towards the edible oils market...but what about
industrial rapeseed oil?
For our purposes canola oil and rapeseed oil are essentially the same
thing. Canola is just a type of
Kim,
I am currently driving a Renault Scenic 2001 powered by an
intercooled turbo direct injection diesel engine. The owner's manual
mentions that rapeseed oil should not be used under any
circumstance. I have been asking the reasons but there has not been
any response.
You asked here and
Here in Pennsylvania diesel cars are exempt from
emission inspections. I was recently bear hunting in
Maine. The local folks told me that Maine no longer
permits sales of Jetta TDI's because of diesel
emissions. My question is this - what pollutes more? A
cleaner gas powered SUV getting 15 miles a
I got it. Thanks,
Keith.
PJW
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From:
Keith Addison
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 6:45
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Rapeseed oil
suitable for making biodiesel
Kim,I am currently driving a Renault Scenic
You can find a copy of the draft paper at
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/policy/dod/jp3_12fc2.pdf. I have
only just started reading it, but it already looks like most of the other
DoD policy papers I have read - a lot of fluff, but not much substance. The
DoD is always putting out
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
I was under the impression that the viscosity reduction was the entire
reason for doing transesterification. Otherwise, whats the benefit of
using biodiesel instead of SVO?
Much less coking.
jh
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more cooking, less coking... : )
John Hayes wrote:
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
I was under the impression that the viscosity reduction was the entire
reason for doing transesterification. Otherwise, whats the benefit of
using biodiesel instead of SVO?
Much less coking.
jh
Evergreen Solutions wrote:
I believe in
researching storage legality that BD must be treated as a Category 3
explosive, you won't find such a thing w/ SVO/WVO.
What!?!
Biodiesel isn't even flammable, let alone explosive. Instead, it's
considered a combustible liquid because the flashpoint
Source?
John Hayes wrote:
Evergreen Solutions wrote:
I believe in
researching storage legality that BD must be treated as a Category 3
explosive, you won't find such a thing w/ SVO/WVO.
What!?!
Biodiesel isn't even flammable, let alone explosive. Instead, it's
considered a
Might as well start smoking again.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can find a copy of the draft paper at
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/policy/dod/jp3_12fc2.pdf. I have
only just started reading it, but it already looks like most of the other
DoD policy papers I have read - a lot of
Let's leave the 80's out of this, thanks
bob allen wrote:
more cooking, less coking... : )
John Hayes wrote:
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
I was under the impression that the viscosity reduction was the entire
reason for doing transesterification. Otherwise, whats the benefit of
using
I've used nylon too - it seems to work ok but hardens up after a while.
Derick Giorchino wrote:
I have been using nylon tubing for lots of stuff it seems to take a lickin
with no ill effects. You just need to keep it from extreme heat. But I have
found it will take full vacuum and burst pressure
Would you post your results?
Evergreen Solutions wrote:
Quick question, we're exhausing ourselves looking for a bulk-supplier
of lye/caustic soda/NaOH. I've found some solutions online, but they
are extremely expensive. It seems odd to me that 55 gallon drums of
methanol has been easy,
Another idea is to get one of those light timers (for when your away)
and you can set it up to turn on automatically in the morning before
you even get out of bed.
Michael Luich
On 9/25/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I used to plug in my old 300SD only a hour or so before
Ken Riznyk wrote:
Here in Pennsylvania diesel cars are exempt from
emission inspections. I was recently bear hunting in
Maine. The local folks told me that Maine no longer
permits sales of Jetta TDI's because of diesel
emissions. My question is this - what pollutes more? A
cleaner gas
That would be a good idea - make sure it's up to the load.
Michael Luich wrote:
Another idea is to get one of those light timers (for when your away)
and you can set it up to turn on automatically in the morning before
you even get out of bed.
Michael Luich
On 9/25/05, *Mike Weaver*
Soap Supplies on the web have both Potassium (Much easier to wash) and
Sodium Hydroxide at bulk discounts. You will have to pay a $25.00 Haz Mat
fee + freight + fuel surcharges, unless you can pickup yourself instead.
Search soap making supplies (or search something similar) on the web and
see
I don't know the exact numbers, but I think if you are looking at
local pollutants, the diesel is definitely worse. Many SUV's even
meet ULEV emissions standards for CO, HC, NOx, etc However,
remember that CO2 is not defined as a pollutant, but if you are
worried about global warming, that's
As far as I can tell, Clipper wind is the current representation of
the former Zond wind, which was absorbed into Enron Wind before the
Enron parent company went under. I thought that GE had taken the wind
portion of Enron, but apparently some of the people formed Clipper
wind instead.
On
Transestherification swaps out the glycerol chain for an alcohol one w/i the
molecular bond of the oil, which, like Keith said, makes it burn...or rather
explode under pressure better than SVO. I believe in researching storage
legality that BD must be treated as a Category 3 explosive, you
What if we had sent that money to alternative energy research...
Haven't you been paying attention? That would be an unfair subsidy
that undermines the free market
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Tell that to our gov as they are clueless or worse.
Regards
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Zeke,
The cleaner diesels and gas engines are in reality more dangerous
than the old fashion smelling ones. This according to a Swiss and
French EU study. I have given links etc. before and they can be
found in the archives.
The reason why the clean cars are more dangerous, was that they
gave
For some reason the list kicked me, something about too many bounces?
I reactivated, but I missed a couple posts. Thanks for the responses to
this thread, I read them on the archives, and since someone wanted the
results I'll post what I've found so far...
Err...did you want plastic deformation
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
Anyway, if you do mean biodiesel, there wouldn't be much point in
making a list, biodiesel works in all diesel engines.
Is there anyone on this list running biodiesel in the CRD engines? I
have heard rumors (mostly from the same people who claim that
biodiesel will
Zeke Yewdallwrote:
snip
Regarding the emissions of SVO, I have some EPA data from a 1974
Mercedes running on WVO that has never been published. I'll post it
here if I can find it again. Some students did the testing on a
senior design project that I was overseeing last year, but they didn't
This is another way to heat a car in winter.
http://www.wohlfuehlklima.de/index_en.php
At least it means you are not dependent on an electrical outlet. I keep
meaning to buy one myself, but have always forgotten. The modern TDI engines
have a preheating circuit anyway, so the conversion kit is
I don't know if this has been discussed here or not, but if it works as advertised, it's a heck of an answer to most of our energy problems.
Website for article: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/897232/postsUnlike other solid-to-liquid-fuel processes such as cornstarch into ethanol, this
What PART of the country do you live in. I
am in East Texas and Caustic Soda(LYE) is
commonly used in Oil Well Drilling operations and you should be able to
purchase a 40 or 50lb bad for a very reasonable price. I am just making my
first batch of Bid this weekend, but I will check out
Interesting. I know that several people in Boulder have had issues
with unwashed biodiesel running very poorly in the TDI's -- even pre
PDI ones (one commercial reseller here sells unwashed biodiesel made
from WVO), whereas others of us use it with no problems at all, in
1980's diesels. But
Zeke,
On the soy vs rapeseed, why is the US so fixated on soy?
and
Seems to be a much more sustainable crop.
Sustainability is not the focus of the majority of US endeavors,
domestic or international.
When that day comes, you'll see a lot more peace and overall prosperity
across the
Soilent green anyone?
I suspect that the problem is the energy input require to depolymerize
the input feedstock. Is this more or less than the energy we get
out of it.
On 9/26/05, Walker Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know if this has been discussed here or not, but if it
works as
Duh. I should know that by now
Sometimes I expect better from the renewable energy people to be
better than everyone else though.
On 9/26/05, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zeke,
On the soy vs rapeseed, why is the US so fixated on soy?
and
Seems to be a much more
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
Interesting. I know that several people in Boulder have had issues
with unwashed biodiesel running very poorly in the TDI's -- even pre
PDI ones (one commercial reseller here sells unwashed biodiesel made
from WVO), whereas others of us use it with no problems at all, in
Evergreen Solutions wrote:
For some reason the list kicked me, something about too many bounces?
It didn't kick you, it just stopped sending you emails. This is done
automatically by the list server when your Internet Service Provider
rejects (bounces) too many list messages sent to you,
Jeff
When you reply to a message in a digest please don't send the entire thing!!!
Your message was maybe 1 kb, but you sent 51 kb, to thousands of list members.
Rob,
In the list archive I found a product from Espar
http://www.espar.comwww.espar.com that burns diesel to heat engine
coolant.
Maybe something to do with gmail I too was given the same message this
morning and I have gmail.
On 9/26/05, Evergreen Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For some reason the list kicked me, something about too many bounces? I
reactivated, but I missed a couple posts. Thanks for the responses to
Typically they injected a small amount of the usual liquid diesel fuel,
say 5% of the total, which functioned as an igniter to start the natural
gas burning, much like a spark plug. The natural gas was mixed with the
intake air.
They were called dual-fuel or oil-field engines, because they could
Let's not discuss it onlist please. See my previous message titled
BOUNCES - was Re: [Biofuel] Caustic Soda supply source?
http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/200
5-September/005154.html
Or:
http://snipurl.com/hygw
If you have a problem write to the list
The little I know is that the lobbyist and the Department of
Agriculture(DOA) like soy. The point is that there is so much soy oil that
the market is sort of flooded and the DOA is basically giving it to the
so-called Biodiesel mass producers.
Greg O.
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From: [EMAIL
http://www.cat.com/cda/layout?m=37508x=7
From reading the caterpillar website more, it actually appears that
their natural gas engines are spark ignition, not compression
ignition. They use the same block and such as the diesel engine, but
different heads and fuel system apparently. It also
On the soy vs rapeseed, why is the US so fixated on soy? Smacks of a
powerful soybean lobby to me.
I believe we can't even grow soy (or baked beans) here in the UK due to not
having enough sunny days. Chris
Wessex Ferret Club
www.wessexferretclub.co.uk
Actually, I've worked with both Webasto and Espar heaters from semi's and
never thought of them. We're doing hydronic heating of a 1600 sq ft shop
with a modified Webasto now running on WVO. I forgot that a smaller one
could warm an engine pretty quickly. Thanks!
Hi Keith and all,
You mentioned in a previous thread that you liked castor beans as an oil seed crop. That makes some sense given yields and iodine numbers but if one is attempting an animal/oil seed mix then castor beans aren't edible are they? Perhaps I read something wrong on JTF.I
Hi Zeke and all,
Wow, it's been years since I saw that movie. That was Edward G. Robinson's last flick. Lot's of things are applicable to today's peak oil problem.Since it had a great storyline I have to think it was a book at some time but I have no real idea. Actually I believe any input
Wow. No Sh*t?
Walker Bennett wrote:
I don't know if this has been discussed here or not, but if it works
as advertised, it's a heck of an answer to most of our energy problems.
Website for article:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/897232/posts
Unlike other
the castor oil plant is toxic.
its what Rican is made from. animals don't
really like eating the plant either seed waste maybe ok, but this is what
is
made into a toxic nerve agent
the yields in oil maybe ok, so long as its
warm andwet gets lots of sunit grows fast.
there where a number of
On Sep 26, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Tom Irwin wrote:
Hi Zeke and all,
Wow, it's been years since I saw that movie. That was Edward G.
Robinson's last flick. Lot's of things are applicable to today's peak
oil problem. Since it had a great storyline I have to think it was a
book at some time
awesome tips, all of them straight to the point, walking and bicycling all surely the most obvious way to save the planet!
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Hi all,
Ihave a small disagreement with this
statement,
...
APPARENTLY Red Devil lye has been discontinued.
Ican buy it at the local hardware stores
inmy areaas of yet, it is still in the plumbing and pipe maintenance
area, and it is about 5.00USD per pound.
if it has been discontinued, I
Interesting topic in a biodiesel list :)
Aircraft carrier steam catapult, usually powered by their own nuclear
reactor. This is mainly for assisting their aircrafts to take off in a
much shorter distance.
To take off, the operator on board need to know the types of aircraft
taking off and the
I don't really see a good reason why it should not burn biodiesel, except
that the stuff will have already gelled at the temperature you would need to
use it at! This is probably the only reason for this suggestion.
I always threw 10 % or so petrol into normal mineral diesel in winter
anyway,
Even national geographic predicted that a hurricane in New Orleans will
be devastating one whole damn year ago. Unfortunately most people only
watch it like watching other TV drama. And i doubt that guy in charge
in white house ever watch any national geographic.
Transestherification swaps out the glycerol chain for an alcohol
one w/i the
molecular bond of the oil, which, like Keith said, makes it
burn...or rather
explode under pressure
That's better put, thanks.
better than SVO. I believe in researching storage
legality that BD must be treated
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/09/malaysia_invest.html#more
A good start for Malaysia!
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Hi Tom
Hi Keith and all,
You mentioned in a previous thread that you liked castor beans as an
oil seed crop.
I said it has about the highest lubrication and it's an interesting
biofuels crop. Interesting in India I think, and in Brazil.
That makes some sense given yields and iodine numbers
better than SVO. I believe in researching storage legality that BD must be treated as a Category 3 explosive,
I think we'd like a reference for that.
Hrm, well, I can't find what I was thinking of just now. According to
this: http://www.biodieselgear.com/documentation/methanol.htm ,
Methanol is a
On 9/26/05, Jason and Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Ihave a small disagreement with this
statement,
...
APPARENTLY Red Devil lye has been discontinued.
Links for the win:
http://candleandsoap.about.com/od/coldprocesssoapmaking/a/lyesources.htm
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