Re: [Biofuel] SERVER REPORT, Do Not Open it! WORM in ZIP file

2005-12-02 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello. My antivirus program detected the I Worm MyTob.AA inside the file readme.zip, its size is 49.29 KB. It came with a fake address [EMAIL PROTECTED], its the same worm like yesterday message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] The list do not send *.zip files. Best. Juan

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good enoughprotection?

2005-12-02 Thread Mike Weaver
So make 5 gallon batches and then put it in your tank. Zeke Yewdall wrote: Hmmm. Remind me never to come to your town, as my truck has an 18.5 gallon fuel tank filled with biodiesel/diesel. If I parked in your driveway, It'd be illegal. On 12/1/05, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-02 Thread Michael Redler
Wait a minute. If you take Christ out of Christmas, you have "Mas" which we all know means "more" in Spanish.Obviously, this meansMORE topless "elves", video sex toys andparades of naked X-mas characters.It's all clear to me now!MikeMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See what I

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-02 Thread Tom Irwin
Hello, Keith, I suspected that diversity was necessary with the animals if it is necessary for plants and soil. Any particular rotations or combinations work best? Thanks for the benefit of your experience and knowledge. I also applaud your amazing dexerity. Milking compost worms is really

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-02 Thread Fred Finch
Too many 'Mike's' working at a better world!! fredOn 12/2/05, Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait a minute. If you take Christ out of Christmas, you have Mas which we all know means more in Spanish.Obviously, this meansMORE topless elves, video sex toys andparades of naked X-mas

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-02 Thread Mike Weaver
The scary thing is, I bet I could clean this up and get people to believe it. Michael Redler wrote: Wait a minute. If you take Christ out of Christmas, you have Mas which we all know means more in Spanish. Obviously, this means MORE topless elves, video sex toys and parades of naked

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Mike Weaver
At 50 mpg why bother? David Miller wrote: Joe Street wrote: Oh I thought from the previous post it meant that taxed fuel is dyed. So then on a spot inspection how is anyone to know if you are using taxed fuel or home brew anyways? (assuming it is not B100 which could be identified by

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-02 Thread Fred Finch
I would be willing to bet that you don't need to clean it up for some people to believe it! You ever watch Faux Snooze?On 12/2/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The scary thing is, I bet I could clean this up and get people tobelieve it.Michael Redler wrote: Wait a minute. If you take

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good enoughprotection?

2005-12-02 Thread Mike Weaver
1. Where do you live? In most places you can download county regs and read them. *Do this.* 2. Go to the code enforcement office, or county clerk or whatever. Make friends. Be charming. Find out what the truth is. 3. Find out who would actually deal with this situation. Get to know

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Joe Street
I'm just wondering what people on this list think they will do if the winds of change blow cold on the home brew community? Suppose at some point your government decides to take strong action to discourage or prevent you from making your own fuel. I know that collectively there are a lot of us

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-02 Thread Tom Irwin
Hello Dermot, I suppose a fair test, not a good one, would be how long has the organic trust farms been operating and can they still grow most all crop types with normal yields. If your have farms operating 100 years or so and can still grow most crops with noirmal yields I say you were

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-02 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, While I am not Keith, I have discovered that the rotation depends on what I need to accomplish. for example: Did I make the mistake of feeding hay in one place too long when it was wet? Then I need to pound some rebar holes, fill them with corn and turn the pigs in for a few days,

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol suppliers

2005-12-02 Thread Chris May
Ah thank you very much, google didnt give me any results in the past. Ordered me catalogue so hopefully should get that soon! (dont worry too much about prices though, over here it would have been £6/gal!) Looks like im gonna have to start work on that ethanol distillery sooner rather then later

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Mike Weaver
Nah, when it comes it'll be from two directions: The trap grease people will get together as soon as they really start feeling the bite from home-brewers, and get legislation passed that declares WVO dangerous and in need of special handling. This will require fairly expensive equipment and

[Biofuel] Anatomy of a Political Debate in the US

2005-12-02 Thread Michael Redler
Anatomy of a Political Debate in the USFrom my experience, there are two kinds of of people in the US when it comes to political debate.First, there are (what I like to call) the "conformists", who have fallen victimto (what Ralph Nader calls) a duopoly,

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel as a wood stain

2005-12-02 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, The only wood preservative I have found to be worth the trouble is raw linseed oil, applied by the old rule of: once a day for a week, once a week for a month, once a month for a year, once a year for life. With this, wood will stand up to Texas, sun, termites and all. If biodiesel

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-02 Thread Ken Dunn
On 11/30/05, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings Ken That was a real pleasure to read, thankyou. You're quite welcome. Your food shed, that's great! Footprints and food sheds. I wish I had coined the term but, my best buddy uses the phrase regularly and I'm pretty sure that he

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Doug Turner
Hi Mike, Just waiting for the movie, Attack of the Grease People. It's bound to be a cult classic. Doug - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax

Re: [Biofuel] Your tax dollars at work

2005-12-02 Thread MH
The end is near, NO more sex!! Now I lie me down to sleep, I pray the Lord my soul to keep, If I die before I wake, God bless mommy and daddy and the rest of our family. Why do the GOP want to sink the ship, because some are wanton followers full of sheep-dip! I know its baaad but

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Mike Weaver
All kidding aside, do the members of this list think the idea of an advocacy group to defend BD has merit, and more importantly would anyone pay to be a member? -Mike Doug Turner wrote: Hi Mike, Just waiting for the movie, Attack of the Grease People. It's bound to be a cult classic.

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Joe Street
Well after all I've invested into this endeavour the car, the processor, the time, effort, my domain name, not to mention the pain I have endured ( every time I read one of Mike's messages it seems my eyeballs roll further and further back into my head - it hurts) it seems a forgone conclusion

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Thomas Kelly
Mike, Are you offering to play a role in organizing such an advocacy group? I think there would be great interest. I would pay to be a member. Tom - Original Message - From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Kurt Nolte
On 12/2/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All kidding aside, do the members of this list think the idea of anadvocacy group to defend BD has merit, and more importantlywould anyone pay to be a member? I'd pay. If only to stick it to the man who's trying to pull the strings of the world, IE

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread David Miller
Mike Weaver wrote: All kidding aside, do the members of this list think the idea of an advocacy group to defend BD has merit, and more importantly would anyone pay to be a member? I would pay something just to support the cause. Probably in the $50-100 range. --- David

[Biofuel] democracy now: chavez to give the us cheap oil to poor folks

2005-12-02 Thread Kenji James Fuse
Did you all hear today's Democracy Now? Looks like the US is letting Chavez sell heating oil at a 40% reduction to poor-er folk in Brooklyn and Boston. I imagine the petro boys and the corporate world are squirming right now: this is the first time a major corporation (Citgo?) has VOLUNTARILY

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Mike Weaver
I'm very serious. I would be willing to start it - my real business is to provide consulting to non-profits - I know how they work and I know how Capital Hill works. The primarly goal is to keep biodiesel-brewing legal and safe. I envision a DC-based non-profit that would keep tabs on legal

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves goodenoughprotection?

2005-12-02 Thread Greg and April
I'm a residence not a restraunt/business, so the exemtions for 'Other Oils' don't apply. Greg H. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 19:38 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene glovesgood enoughprotection?

2005-12-02 Thread Greg and April
No. Near as I can tell, everything is NG with some electric and a few solar. Greg H - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 18:59 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene glovesgood

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves goodenoughprotection?

2005-12-02 Thread Greg and April
Furnace is Natural Gas. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Kenji James Fuse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 23:43 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves goodenoughprotection? Hey Greg, Can't you put your

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, I am trying to understand why you feel the need to have people pay to be a member of an advocacy group. I am a member of several and the membership is asked to pay for the postcards we bombard Washington with. Something as simple as a yahoo group that only the management can post

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves goodenoughprotection?

2005-12-02 Thread Greg and April
It's one thing if it is a vehicle fuel tank, something else if it is not. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 22:02 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves

[Biofuel] off topic

2005-12-02 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, An unusual day, something positive on my email with out a price tag. Fun to look at if nothing else. Bright Blessings, Kim http://www.gogratitude.com/masterkey/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene gloves good enough protection?

2005-12-02 Thread Kenji James Fuse
Thanks to all for the thorough responses to my queries about methanol and gloves! Y'all rule... What's your views on my addition of 0.5-2% addition of gasoline to my veggie oil prior to biodiesel production during cold/damp weather? It seems to take care of the moisture factor which had me

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Walker Bennett
I would be more than willing to pay and be a member of a group like this. It's not going to be long before the government or Exxon tries to get in on the act and we need to be prepared.Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm very serious. I would be willing to start it - my real business is to

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol - was Re: neoprene glovesgood enoughprotection?

2005-12-02 Thread doug
Greg and April wrote: No. Near as I can tell, everything is NG with some electric and a few solar. Greg H I guess you could consider biodiesel as a storage system for solar energy... doug swanson - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] democracy now: chavez to give the us cheap oil to poorfolks

2005-12-02 Thread radema
The top 5 petro boys (3 are HQ'd in USA, he other two are BP amd RD Shell) own 50 % or more of refining, discovery and gas station (distribution) operations. They own it all and aren't worried about a little thing like Congress. Rad -- Original Message

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Mike Weaver
Jeez, you're right! How simple! I wanted the money for myself! Let's see, I am sure we can get someone to head down to Washington DC and lobby to counter the well-paid lobbyists of the Big Oil companies! And just anyone will do, they don't need to know anything or anyone. Exxon is wasting

[Biofuel] Mike poll-was- US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Mike I'm on quite a few lists and my in-box can become quite crowded. The answer is Yes, of course, but, if possible, could you perhaps create a poll and ask that the group respond to that question on a specific web address. I think yahoogroups has poll gathering ability .. but this is very

[Biofuel] also- Mike poll-was- US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Just an additional thought .. the fees should be payable in an easy and secure method. Paypal would be my first choice .. that allows bank account, paypal account, credit card .. and is, at least in my experience, very secure. Have you checked out the requirements for receiving funds .. like a

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-02 Thread Keith Addison
On 11/30/05, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings Ken That was a real pleasure to read, thankyou. You're quite welcome. Your food shed, that's great! Footprints and food sheds. I wish I had coined the term but, my best buddy uses the phrase regularly and I'm pretty sure that

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread William Adams
Mike (W that is), My adventuresome (perhaps foolish) persona would answer, Yes and , Yes. But my cautious persona says, Yes, if an in depth discussion of pros and cons indicates real merit; and Yes, if Q1 is yes and the tariff is not beyond my means. Others have mentioned the possibility of

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike, Kim and all Jeez, you're right! How simple! I wanted the money for myself! Let's see, I am sure we can get someone to head down to Washington DC and lobby to counter the well-paid lobbyists of the Big Oil companies! And just anyone will do, they don't need to know anything or

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Walker and all I would be more than willing to pay and be a member of a group like this. It's not going to be long before the government or Exxon tries to get in on the act and we need to be prepared. We've been foreseeing it for six years at least, and we've already seen such moves in