Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of Terror
My goodness there´s an awful lot of puppets around. Many folks in the U.S. consider Bush to be Cheney´s puppet. I wonder who controls Cheney? Big Smile, Tom From: Doug Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:28:48 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of TerrorAnd in Australia we call our (/) illustrious PM 'the shrub' as in 'a little bush'. Unfortunately for we Aussies, our PM does not have much left to learn from Georgie: we now have Sedition laws, un-needded anti- bad guys legislation, 'workplace reform' that is all about making it easier for the overseas masters.Unfortunately, there is a larger cultural drift apart of the haves have-nots. Australia now is a very different place to the one I lived in 30 years ago.Happy new year to all!Doug On Monday 26 December 2005 9:17, Chris lloyd wrote: I quite agree with you regarding the comments about the military adventure the only super power the USA and Bush's pooodle Tony Blair in Iraq. Hi Fox, please get things right. "The Poodle" was Margaret Thatcher belonging to President Raygun. Tony Blier "The Hand Puppet" as called by us here in the UK as he appears to have President Bushes hand shoved up his backside. Chris. Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of Terror
Possibly its a daisy chain?? (Whose up whose, who'se not paying!) D On Tuesday 27 December 2005 9:40, Tom Irwin wrote: My goodness there´s an awful lot of puppets around. Many folks in the U.S. consider Bush to be Cheney´s puppet. I wonder who controls Cheney? Big Smile, Tom _ From: Doug Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:28:48 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of Terror And in Australia we call our (/) illustrious PM 'the shrub' as in 'a little bush'. Unfortunately for we Aussies, our PM does not have much left to learn from Georgie: we now have Sedition laws, un-needded anti- bad guys legislation, 'workplace reform' that is all about making it easier for the overseas masters. Unfortunately, there is a larger cultural drift apart of the haves have-nots. Australia now is a very different place to the one I lived in 30 years ago. Happy new year to all! Doug On Monday 26 December 2005 9:17, Chris lloyd wrote: I quite agree with you regarding the comments about the military adventure the only super power the USA and Bush's pooodle Tony Blair in Iraq. Hi Fox, please get things right. The Poodle was Margaret Thatcher belonging to President Raygun. Tony Blier The Hand Puppet as called by us here in the UK as he appears to have President Bushes hand shoved up his backside. Chris. Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of Terror
Doug, You will notice that no one in the US is commenting. That is because our phones are being monitered and I am sure that this list is considered of Interest to someone. Oh, someone is at the door... fredOn 12/27/05, Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibly its a daisy chain?? (Whose up whose, who'se not paying!)DOn Tuesday 27 December 2005 9:40, Tom Irwin wrote: My goodness there´s an awful lot of puppets around. Many folks in the U.S. consider Bush to be Cheney´s puppet. I wonder who controls Cheney? Big Smile, Tom _ From: Doug Foskey [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:28:48 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of Terror And in Australia we call our (/) illustrious PM 'the shrub' as in 'a little bush'. Unfortunately for we Aussies, our PM does not have much left to learn from Georgie: we now have Sedition laws, un-needded anti- bad guys legislation, 'workplace reform' that is all about making it easier for the overseas masters. Unfortunately, there is a larger cultural drift apart of the haves have-nots. Australia now is a very different place to the one I lived in 30 years ago. Happy new year to all! Doug On Monday 26 December 2005 9:17, Chris lloyd wrote: I quite agree with you regarding the comments about the military adventure the only super power the USA and Bush's pooodle Tony Blair in Iraq.Hi Fox, please get things right. The Poodle was Margaret Thatcher belonging to President Raygun. Tony Blier The Hand Puppet as called by us here in the UK as he appears to have President Bushes hand shoved up his backside. Chris. Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of Terror
With our Sedition laws we are probably much the same. Its a sad, sad world! regards Doug On Tuesday 27 December 2005 10:47, Fred Finch wrote: Doug, You will notice that no one in the US is commenting. That is because our phones are being monitered and I am sure that this list is considered of Interest to someone. Oh, someone is at the door... fred On 12/27/05, Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibly its a daisy chain?? (Whose up whose, who'se not paying!) D On Tuesday 27 December 2005 9:40, Tom Irwin wrote: My goodness there´s an awful lot of puppets around. Many folks in the U.S. consider Bush to be Cheney´s puppet. I wonder who controls Cheney? Big Smile, Tom _ From: Doug Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:28:48 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of Terror And in Australia we call our (/) illustrious PM 'the shrub' as in 'a little bush'. Unfortunately for we Aussies, our PM does not have much left to learn from Georgie: we now have Sedition laws, un-needded anti- bad guys legislation, 'workplace reform' that is all about making it easier for the overseas masters. Unfortunately, there is a larger cultural drift apart of the haves have-nots. Australia now is a very different place to the one I lived in 30 years ago. Happy new year to all! Doug On Monday 26 December 2005 9:17, Chris lloyd wrote: I quite agree with you regarding the comments about the military adventure the only super power the USA and Bush's pooodle Tony Blair in Iraq. Hi Fox, please get things right. The Poodle was Margaret Thatcher belonging to President Raygun. Tony Blier The Hand Puppet as called by us here in the UK as he appears to have President Bushes hand shoved up his backside. Chris. Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of Terror
Umm..the Trilateral Commision? Halliburton? Fred Finch wrote: Doug, You will notice that no one in the US is commenting. That is because our phones are being monitered and I am sure that this list is considered of Interest to someone. Oh, someone is at the door... fred On 12/27/05, *Doug Foskey* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibly its a daisy chain?? (Whose up whose, who'se not paying!) D On Tuesday 27 December 2005 9:40, Tom Irwin wrote: My goodness there´s an awful lot of puppets around. Many folks in the U.S. consider Bush to be Cheney´s puppet. I wonder who controls Cheney? Big Smile, Tom _ From: Doug Foskey [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:28:48 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of Terror And in Australia we call our (/) illustrious PM 'the shrub' as in 'a little bush'. Unfortunately for we Aussies, our PM does not have much left to learn from Georgie: we now have Sedition laws, un-needded anti- bad guys legislation, 'workplace reform' that is all about making it easier for the overseas masters. Unfortunately, there is a larger cultural drift apart of the haves have-nots. Australia now is a very different place to the one I lived in 30 years ago. Happy new year to all! Doug On Monday 26 December 2005 9:17, Chris lloyd wrote: I quite agree with you regarding the comments about the military adventure the only super power the USA and Bush's pooodle Tony Blair in Iraq. Hi Fox, please get things right. The Poodle was Margaret Thatcher belonging to President Raygun. Tony Blier The Hand Puppet as called by us here in the UK as he appears to have President Bushes hand shoved up his backside. Chris. Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk http://www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Ashes from Glycerin sawdust logs
Ash from most sources is mostly the oxides of alkali and alkaline earth metals. On addition of water they hydrolyze to form hydroxides (lye or some such). for example calcium present in the sawdust becomes CaO, calcium oxide which when wetted becomes Ca(OH)2, slaked lime. The metals are present in the wood in trace amounts but make up the bulk of the ash. Traditional soap making involves using ash as a source of lye. In addition to the lye formed from the ash will be the bulk of the lye catalyst.So the only difference between ashes from burning the glycerin cocktail/sawdust and sawdust alone will be slightly more alkalinity. If you put too much ash of any kind on a compost pile you could conceivably drive the pH high enough to interfere. Keith Addison wrote: I have been burning Glycerin sawdust logs to heat my little laboratory and now I am wondering if I put the wood ashes in my compost pile will I be messing anything up or will the byproducts that remain in the ashes be good for the compost bugs. I searched the archive but did not find anything specific to ashes from glycerin. Any help here? Hi Jim I'm not bothered about it messing anything up, it didn't bother me last year either. Glycerin by-product can go into the compost as-is, if you do it right, and I can't see any reason why the same wouldn't apply to the ash. We've used it as a compost addition and used it as a soil dressing too when applying the finished compost. It comes with a lot of wood ash, more wood ash actually. In a discussion about acrolein a few weeks ago one member posted a list of the nasties in woodsmoke, which doesn't stop anyone composting wood ash. Even if any toxins survived in the ash, the composting process would break them down, as it does with toxins in plants. I don't think anything of plant or animal origin won't break down in well-made compost, and that would apply to the glycerin by-product. The lye content isn't plant or animal but those chemicals are soil nutrients anyway (including sodium, and including sulphur too). I don't know if it'd be good for compost bugs - there are about 25,000 different varieties of them and not much is known about most of them, maybe some of them get off on by-product ash. It's not going to hurt them anyway, nor the plants you raise with the compost. Don't use too much ash in the compost mix though. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Run for your livees!!
Yep, that is real good, this ad is well put together. but I for one resent people trying to make money out of info that others have made available for free How about filling this guys ebay mailbox with crap? I have already done my bit lol (nothing nasty or abusive though) - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Run for your livees!! Wow. Glad I'm not one of those biodiesel crackpots. Errr. Um.Nevermind Remember. Don't share this with your friends. On 12/25/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too good not to share, or, is this why people think we are crackpots? http://cgi.ebay.com/BioDiesel-Made-Easy-Manual-Book-Make-your-own-from-home_ W0QQitemZ4599779724QQcategoryZ378QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Or, look up item 4599779724 on ebay. Too funny Happy Holidays, Mike ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Measuring accuracy WVO to CH3OH
By weight, because you deal with molecular weight. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 11:39 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Measuring accuracy WVO to CH3OH Is it more accurate by weight or volume ifoil densities may vary? (maintaining 20% CH3OH) Thanks John ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Ashes from Glycerin sawdust logs
Bioclaire Nederland Glycerin does not give ash. It burns 100 % to water and CO2. The ash you find is from the sawdust. It's not only glycerin, it's also soap, all of which might not burn, and the catalyst as well. Best Keith No problem to put on your compost heap. Bacteria's can not eat it, but your plants can. - Original Message - From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BIO Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 4:22 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Ashes from Glycerin sawdust logs I have been burning Glycerin sawdust logs to heat my little laboratory and now I am wondering if I put the wood ashes in my compost pile will I be messing anything up or will the byproducts that remain in the ashes be good for the compost bugs. I searched the archive but did not find anything specific to ashes from glycerin. Any help here? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of Terror
Mike Weaver wrote: Umm..the Trilateral Commision? Halliburton? Bilderberg. ;) Fred Finch wrote: Doug, You will notice that no one in the US is commenting. That is because our phones are being monitered and I am sure that this list is considered of Interest to someone. Oh, someone is at the door... fred On 12/27/05, *Doug Foskey* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Possibly its a daisy chain?? (Whose up whose, who'se not paying!) D On Tuesday 27 December 2005 9:40, Tom Irwin wrote: My goodness there´s an awful lot of puppets around. Many folks in the U.S. consider Bush to be Cheney´s puppet. I wonder who controls Cheney? Big Smile, Tom _ From: Doug Foskey [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:28:48 -0300 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Anglo-American War of Terror And in Australia we call our (/) illustrious PM 'the shrub' as in 'a little bush'. Unfortunately for we Aussies, our PM does not have much left to learn from Georgie: we now have Sedition laws, un-needded anti- bad guys legislation, 'workplace reform' that is all about making it easier for the overseas masters. Unfortunately, there is a larger cultural drift apart of the haves have-nots. Australia now is a very different place to the one I lived in 30 years ago. Happy new year to all! Doug On Monday 26 December 2005 9:17, Chris lloyd wrote: I quite agree with you regarding the comments about the military adventure the only super power the USA and Bush's pooodle Tony Blair in Iraq. Hi Fox, please get things right. The Poodle was Margaret Thatcher belonging to President Raygun. Tony Blier The Hand Puppet as called by us here in the UK as he appears to have President Bushes hand shoved up his backside. Chris. Wessex Ferret Club www.wessexferretclub.co.uk http://www.wessexferretclub.co.uk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and
Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater?
i was sent a ppt of how this guy in Eugene, ORconverted his vw caddy to wvo. he dropped the tank and cut a plate out so he could place an oil cooler in there, ran the lines back to the radiator lines to heat the oil. the h2o lines and the fuel line all inside and insulated 3" tubing to the 3 line solinoid and oil filter. his diesel tank was just a 3 or 5 gallon for priming and shutting down. if anyone wants this ppt (2megs) i would be happy to send. it seems simple enough for a novice like me. Peace, michele - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater? Hi Kenji;Yes it was a crappy tire ad I saw. If you want to build a inline heater it is not that difficult. I can work with you on it. I was considering doing it on the short metal lines that run from the injector pump to each injector. This would help when I decide to run WVO. We just basically need to determine how many watts are needed for the temperature rise required and considering the available voltage pick the appropriate size wire and number of turns. Weatherproofing the affair is the biggest challenge. We use a lot of salt here in the winter. For you out in lotus land it is not much of a concern.I'm not sure when I am coming out. Basically my buddy who is in Ucluelet was supposed to meet me in Mexico in January and the bum backed out at the last second so he offered to buy me a ticket to come see him on the next seat sale. Who can argue with an offer like that? I have a feathercraft folding kayak that I'll be bringing out so if you are into that we can do some paddling when I come out. It will probably be in the spring some time. I like nothing better than paddling with a local who knows the tidal currents. If not well just hang out and talk biofuel over a pint or something like that :) I'll tell you about my dreams to live sustainably up near Coal Harbour. Best regards. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all on this list.My keeper is letting me out of th cage nowyippeeJoeKenji James Fuse wrote: Crappy Canadian Tire has those windshield wash fluid heaters on sale right now. Not much info on the box, but they only seem to heat the fluid for a few seconds. I don't know if this could be bypassed, but I'd be worried the plastic would melt if you figured out how to keep it on all the time. On the other hand, I thought about splitting the fuel line, so that some goes to this heater and gets heated, and the rest keeps going. This would raise the temp a little, but I don't know if it would be worth the $49.94 CAD. Kenji PS. WHen are you on Vancouver Island, Joe? On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Joe Street wrote: I saw an advert on the tube last night for a gadget that is supposed to heat windshield washer fluid as it flows to the spray nozzles on your car. I immediately thought about the potential as a fuel heater. It hooks up to the electrical system and I guess turns on with the washer pump. I have been considering such an idea along the lines of building something by wrapping a peice of tubing with the right amount of nichrome wire for instantaneous heating. If this gadget is suitable it would save a lot of work. Perhaps the tube diameter is too small (I expect ) but you never know. Anybody ever seen one of these things? Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "journeytoforever.org" claiming to be http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "journeytoforever.org" claiming to be http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] free inline fuel heater?
Dipstick engine heaters, are not a good way of heating an engine in winter. These heaters can cook ( overheat ) the oil right next to the heater, and leave the rest of the oil cold, depending on the way the engine is made and the fact that oil does not freely circulate as well as coolant does. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Teoman Naskali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 15:33 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] free inline fuel heater? I just purchased some dipstick engine heaters. But I live in europe and they came from america, so they are 120V. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Ashes from Glycerin sawdust logs
I know that Keith. Better than one year ago, I split the glyc layer now into FFA's , salt and glycerin. The pure glycerin burns beautifull, with no ash at all. Nothing. The Na2SO4 ( I split with sulphuric acid, see previous messages about that), I keep in some buckets, untill I know what I can safely do with it. The FFA I put in an oil tank with heating spiral (?) (good word?) and oir oil heater burns beatifull on it. The spiral is exacly like a radiator, part of the heating system. Greetings, Pieter. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ashes from Glycerin sawdust logs Bioclaire Nederland Glycerin does not give ash. It burns 100 % to water and CO2. The ash you find is from the sawdust. It's not only glycerin, it's also soap, all of which might not burn, and the catalyst as well. Best Keith No problem to put on your compost heap. Bacteria's can not eat it, but your plants can. - Original Message - From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BIO Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 4:22 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Ashes from Glycerin sawdust logs I have been burning Glycerin sawdust logs to heat my little laboratory and now I am wondering if I put the wood ashes in my compost pile will I be messing anything up or will the byproducts that remain in the ashes be good for the compost bugs. I searched the archive but did not find anything specific to ashes from glycerin. Any help here? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Ashes from Glycerin sawdust logs
I know that Keith. Better than one year ago, I split the glyc layer now into FFA's , salt and glycerin. I remember your struggles getting it to work. The point is that Jim is not asking about glycerin from the separated glyc layer, he's burning glycerin sawdust logs, made I'm sure with unseparated by-product, which includes the soap and probably will leave ash. Best wishes Keith The pure glycerin burns beautifull, with no ash at all. Nothing. The Na2SO4 ( I split with sulphuric acid, see previous messages about that), I keep in some buckets, untill I know what I can safely do with it. The FFA I put in an oil tank with heating spiral (?) (good word?) and oir oil heater burns beatifull on it. The spiral is exacly like a radiator, part of the heating system. Greetings, Pieter. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ashes from Glycerin sawdust logs Bioclaire Nederland Glycerin does not give ash. It burns 100 % to water and CO2. The ash you find is from the sawdust. It's not only glycerin, it's also soap, all of which might not burn, and the catalyst as well. Best Keith No problem to put on your compost heap. Bacteria's can not eat it, but your plants can. - Original Message - From: JJJN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: BIO Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 4:22 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Ashes from Glycerin sawdust logs I have been burning Glycerin sawdust logs to heat my little laboratory and now I am wondering if I put the wood ashes in my compost pile will I be messing anything up or will the byproducts that remain in the ashes be good for the compost bugs. I searched the archive but did not find anything specific to ashes from glycerin. Any help here? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater?
Yup. This heating setup is the standard design most WVO vehicals I've seen use. I've done that to a school bus and a mercedes car. Unfortuneatly, I don't have good pictures or diagrams of it, but I am taking better pictures of the two vehicals I'm in the process of converting now, and will have them up on a website eventually. On 12/27/05, Michele Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was sent a ppt of how this guy in Eugene, OR converted his vw caddy to wvo. he dropped the tank and cut a plate out so he could place an oil cooler in there, ran the lines back to the radiator lines to heat the oil. the h2o lines and the fuel line all inside and insulated 3 tubing to the 3 line solinoid and oil filter. his diesel tank was just a 3 or 5 gallon for priming and shutting down. if anyone wants this ppt (2megs) i would be happy to send. it seems simple enough for a novice like me. Peace, michele - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater? Hi Kenji; Yes it was a crappy tire ad I saw. If you want to build a inline heater it is not that difficult. I can work with you on it. I was considering doing it on the short metal lines that run from the injector pump to each injector. This would help when I decide to run WVO. We just basically need to determine how many watts are needed for the temperature rise required and considering the available voltage pick the appropriate size wire and number of turns. Weatherproofing the affair is the biggest challenge. We use a lot of salt here in the winter. For you out in lotus land it is not much of a concern. I'm not sure when I am coming out. Basically my buddy who is in Ucluelet was supposed to meet me in Mexico in January and the bum backed out at the last second so he offered to buy me a ticket to come see him on the next seat sale. Who can argue with an offer like that? I have a feathercraft folding kayak that I'll be bringing out so if you are into that we can do some paddling when I come out. It will probably be in the spring some time. I like nothing better than paddling with a local who knows the tidal currents. If not well just hang out and talk biofuel over a pint or something like that :) I'll tell you about my dreams to live sustainably up near Coal Harbour. Best regards. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all on this list. My keeper is letting me out of th cage nowyippee Joe Kenji James Fuse wrote: Crappy Canadian Tire has those windshield wash fluid heaters on sale right now. Not much info on the box, but they only seem to heat the fluid for a few seconds. I don't know if this could be bypassed, but I'd be worried the plastic would melt if you figured out how to keep it on all the time. On the other hand, I thought about splitting the fuel line, so that some goes to this heater and gets heated, and the rest keeps going. This would raise the temp a little, but I don't know if it would be worth the $49.94 CAD. Kenji PS. WHen are you on Vancouver Island, Joe? On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Joe Street wrote: I saw an advert on the tube last night for a gadget that is supposed to heat windshield washer fluid as it flows to the spray nozzles on your car. I immediately thought about the potential as a fuel heater. It hooks up to the electrical system and I guess turns on with the washer pump. I have been considering such an idea along the lines of building something by wrapping a peice of tubing with the right amount of nichrome wire for instantaneous heating. If this gadget is suitable it would save a lot of work. Perhaps the tube diameter is too small (I expect ) but you never know. Anybody ever seen one of these things? Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from journeytoforever.org claiming to be http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from journeytoforever.org claiming to be http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Run for your livees!!
I have a few notions that I believe are probably patentable. I talked to a good family friend who is a patent lawyer and he agreed. However, the issue is more in being able to afford the patent work, and the inevitable lawsuits that will follow. After the past few years, I have begun to believe that the best thing to do is to publish or license the works under an open or creative commons license. If I get off my duff and make a product, I can sell it, and anyone else can too. Anyone have any experience with this? Is the Appleseed processor under this sort of patent? -Mike Robert Carr wrote: Yep, that is real good, this ad is well put together. but I for one resent people trying to make money out of info that others have made available for free How about filling this guys ebay mailbox with crap? I have already done my bit lol (nothing nasty or abusive though) - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Run for your livees!! Wow. Glad I'm not one of those biodiesel crackpots. Errr. Um.Nevermind Remember. Don't share this with your friends. On 12/25/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Too good not to share, or, is this why people think we are crackpots? http://cgi.ebay.com/BioDiesel-Made-Easy-Manual-Book-Make-your-own-from-home_ W0QQitemZ4599779724QQcategoryZ378QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Or, look up item 4599779724 on ebay. Too funny Happy Holidays, Mike ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
