[Biofuel] Why Genetically Modifying Food Products Is A No No
Why Genetically Modifying (GM) Food Products Is A No No by Chris Gupta In every FDA decision involving genetically modified foods, those making the decision were either former or future employees of the genetic-engineering companies. To determine the safety of these foods, the FDA typically just takes the word of the company. Further, the FDA has increased the allowable residue of Roundup on crops by 330%. So Monsanto can make genetically engineered crops resistant to their toxic chemicals and sell more chemical as well as seeds. You get to eat both the genetically altered food and the added chemicals. What a scheme. Monsanto is making a killing on these seeds and chemicals. These corporations have lots of products for you in the pipeline. Here are just a few: Aluminum tolerance in papaya, tobacco, rice, and corn (so they can grow the plants in soil contaminated with aluminum). Growth-enhanced farm-raised salmon. Monosexed fish. Altering carnivorous fish to starch-based digestion. Antifreeze gene in warm-water fish to raise them in cold climates. Do you really want to eat plants resistant to aluminum? I don't think your brain would like that! How about fish with antifreeze? And, if these companies have their way, their products will be labeled as organic if grown without the addition of chemicals. See also: The Earth is flat, pigs were invented by Monsanto, and genetically modified organisms are safe. Right. Inge's Added Comment: GENETIC ENGINEERING of OUR FOOD - a growing treat to your health: This is a burning issue, the significance of which most people seem blissfully and trustingly unaware. The future of FOOD (through genetic engineering - leading to patents, ownership, and complete control ownership of seeds and thus the food supply by Corporations is one if THE most important issues facing the survival of mankind and the biological environment. But even worse, many of these foods have been clearly shown to destroy health, - and are definitely an overwhelming threat to the genetic integrity of natural plants through pollen transfer, etc - a fact that is carefully covered up by a silent main media and the steady stream of government/corporate/academic misinformation and pseudoscience. Jeffrey Smith is one of the most informed whistleblowers on the issue of genetic engineering - and his book SEEDS of DECEPTION is a trail-blazer - the most detailed and documented expose of the dangers, deceit, and control-agenda surrounding the genetic- engineering debacle. It is important that we inform ourselves NOW - and then decide how to reverse this disastrous agenda - because the SEED-FOOD-SUPPLY-TAKEOVER Agenda is already very well advanced, with government complicity and promotion. Here is a Good Summary on the potential harm from GM Some audios to supplement this post are here. Chris Gupta -- Why You Should Avoid These Healthy Foods It's no secret that organic foods are gaining in popularity. Even the corporate behemoth Wal-Mart is making big news with its new organic products. But have you ever thought about the reason organics are becoming so popular? Obviously, the word is getting out about pesticides and herbicides. The American people have said enough is enough and demanded cleaner, healthier foods. But the problem is much greater than just pesticides and herbicides. The Big Chemical companies and Big Agriculture companies have joined together to genetically modify plants to be disease and insect resistant. Genetic modification means the insertion of genes into an organism. Genes are the hard drive of a cell's computer. They tell your cells what to do, and what compounds to manufacture. There are some very good purposes to genetic engineering (GE). For example, scientists inserted the human gene to make insulin into a bacterium. Now we have a ready and reliable source of human insulin that we simply harvest by growing the bacteria. But when it comes to genetically modifying food products, it's a different story. I've told you in the past about genetically modified foods and the health trouble some of them cause. Now we're finding out that ALL genetically modified foods are potentially hazardous to your health. For instance, the chemical company Monsanto took a gene from a plant that makes the pesticide Bacillus thuringiensis toxin or Bt to protect itself. The company then stuck this gene into corn. So now, most corn sold in the U.S. has this gene in it. While this means most corn crops can ward off predatory insects, it also means we are all eating genetically modified corn. What's wrong with that? Consider this: A recent study found that people in the Philippines now have antibodies to Bt toxin in their blood. That means they must be eating Bt. Connect the dots! Researchers also have tested people who eat genetically engineered foods. In the participants, they found Roundup Ready and Bt genes, along
Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol and cold starts
Methyl ethyl ketone is at least the solvent of choice in the aviation industry. The general rule of thumb in those circles being that everything's more toxic than in the automotive department: leaded AvGas, high sulfur jet fuel(not to mention the additives they throw in), hydraulic fluid which they at least strongly discourage from ingesting. It does vaporize quickly, dissolves most glues and paints and all grease, much better than acetone. Considering the bother we go through to put on gloves and masks when dealing with it, i wouldn't use it as fuel. Block heaters do take a bit of electricity, but they do save enough fuel in cold weather to justify their use; 1/2h in 5 C to -5 C, 1h down to -15 C, then 2h for below that. There are fuel burning ones too, no cord or plug necessary, but they are more expensive. Electrically heated carburetors do exist, they shouldn't take much power at all considering the small mass of a carburetor. Even less if you just heat the fuel in the float bowl directly. It takes 1 minute to heat 1 dl of ethanol 40C (-20 to 20C, for example) using the power of your low beams (not USING your low beams of course, but the same amount of electricity). If your battery can't take that, get a new battery, you won't be able to start an engine on gas at -20. I'm inclined to think that an EFI engine would start quite well in freezing weather, at least down to the point where block heaters are recomended anyways. But a heating around the fuel lines wouldn't be impossible either. Winter's coming late this year, no snow on chirstmas! And this is Finland we're talking about! I'd like to try out my snowmobile on ethanol, but the large batch production's the hard part, it being illegal in Finland and all... So if the cops ask i didn't distill a test batch of around 3dl with a steam juicer with the top sections flipped around and the middle filled with glass plates. It might have burned had i done so :) Not to mention i can't use the snowmobile on any fuel with no snow around! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Impeach Bush
From discussion to action -- Michael Ratner and his fellow lawyers have drafted a call to impeach President Bush. http://www.alte/rnet.orgstory/32977/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] humanure to humus
I think it's the same principle .. what goes in is what comes out. I read a great deal and don't necessarily remember exactly where my source was but, I understand that it was standard practice for little men with small wagons to take the overnight pots from the homes in the cities in Japan and use that human manure as fertilizer in the country .. our returning American military people thought this was on the side of disgusting (American Puritan backgrounds getting into their usual judgments concerning other cultures and practices) .. but .. whatever I read supported this practice because the diet of the average Japanese family was very low in meat. I can't even remember reading anything about this one .. probably just something I've heard said forever .. but the best manure comes from the grass eating animals which leaves out the average American, the dogs and the cats etc because of the poor quality and large amount of meat that is consumed while dogs and cats are both basically carnivores. So with that being the basis of my thinking on this subject, my guess is that a general study will not support human to fertilizer as being a good practice because that same general study would also have all those McDonalds Happy Meals in the mix. .. but if there ever were an actual study done then perhaps a study comparing horse, cow, chicken manure from small family farms against the same species manure from factory farms and feed lots. .. I think the results would never be published .. Mary Lynn Mary Lynn Schmidt, distributor Psionic Energy Software http://miracle6bizland.com/softwaresolutions/ Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART: Facilitator/Consultant for Alternative Healing Modalities and Practitioner utilizing various modalities which can include TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . THE ANIMAL CONNECTION HEALING MODALITIES http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] humanure to humus Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 12:30:37 -0600 (CST) I don't usually chime in too much however I did want to point out something. I do agree with looking at safe composting of humanure, my town has specifically said NO to homeowners doing such a thing though... they tested the compost (our Master Gardner program was part of this research) and found that they could not safely tell folks it was ok to use. It did have trace of drugs. They said yes, it would be ok on non food plants, but they are still researching the fruit trees. Tomatoes etc heck no (ie: food bearing plants). So because of the results they banned any use of humanure for any use. It MUST be connected to a sewer or septic tanks. Huge fines and jail time if we don't follow the directions. I was upset since it was shown in our area (Arizona) that it could be used on non food plants, that it would (the tests showed)be unlikely to make it to our watershed to cause problems. Currently our waters are showing drugs, prozac was the big one. That is because of the city programs and how they make so many mistakes (like accidentally putting sweet water through our drinking water lines then over chlorinating us) I was glad that they scientifically made their choice. They used facts and science, not just oh well I have done it for years and never been sick. I think more research needs to be done. Until then I break the law and do my own composting putting it on non food plants. I think that both sides need to be heard and not attacked here, I appreciate hearing both sides, I do my research on most things, but I always learn something when folks post here... so I do appreciate all of the points of views and comments here. Judy Lynn (dont flame me!) Wes and Luke I would be surprised if I am the only one on this list thinking it is a good thing to discourage this fellow. I'd be damn' disappointed if you weren't, but I suppose you'll probably win that one, so I'll brace myself for further disappointment, sigh... In our town I was shocked a few years ago when our town fathers decided to palletize our sewage and sell it to farmers. Fortunately other than spending good tax dollars there was little harm done. They could not find a market. I wonder what that's got to do with composting. If I am not mistaken environmentalists have been telling us that medicines are actually ending up in the rivers and streams in measurable amounts from waste water sewage plants. What's that got to do with composting? I had a friend (died of cancer) who once ran a small motel. He often offered produce from his garden that sat over his weeping tile. I always graciously declined. Of course I am not suggesting his cancer
Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol and cold starts
That's cool! I mean the ethyl alcohol bit...I'm quite keen on distilling my own fuel as well. I've started a reflux still, but haven't gotten it finished (I don't have any tools to braze ferrous metals - steel, to non-ferrous metals - copper). But it's always encouraging to read of other folks have success on any level! It sounds like you may have some knowledge on the subject, so I've got a question...what do you know about converting standard ICE gas engines to run well on ethanol (ethyl alcohol) ? I've heard from different sources that all you have to do is bore out your carb. main jet and idle jet... Best... Luke --- Arttu Aula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Methyl ethyl ketone is at least the solvent of choice in the aviation industry. The general rule of thumb in those circles being that everything's more toxic than in the automotive department: leaded AvGas, high sulfur jet fuel(not to mention the additives they throw in), hydraulic fluid which they at least strongly discourage from ingesting. It does vaporize quickly, dissolves most glues and paints and all grease, much better than acetone. Considering the bother we go through to put on gloves and masks when dealing with it, i wouldn't use it as fuel. Block heaters do take a bit of electricity, but they do save enough fuel in cold weather to justify their use; 1/2h in 5 C to -5 C, 1h down to -15 C, then 2h for below that. There are fuel burning ones too, no cord or plug necessary, but they are more expensive. Electrically heated carburetors do exist, they shouldn't take much power at all considering the small mass of a carburetor. Even less if you just heat the fuel in the float bowl directly. It takes 1 minute to heat 1 dl of ethanol 40C (-20 to 20C, for example) using the power of your low beams (not USING your low beams of course, but the same amount of electricity). If your battery can't take that, get a new battery, you won't be able to start an engine on gas at -20. I'm inclined to think that an EFI engine would start quite well in freezing weather, at least down to the point where block heaters are recomended anyways. But a heating around the fuel lines wouldn't be impossible either. Winter's coming late this year, no snow on chirstmas! And this is Finland we're talking about! I'd like to try out my snowmobile on ethanol, but the large batch production's the hard part, it being illegal in Finland and all... So if the cops ask i didn't distill a test batch of around 3dl with a steam juicer with the top sections flipped around and the middle filled with glass plates. It might have burned had i done so :) Not to mention i can't use the snowmobile on any fuel with no snow around! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Impeach Bush
So, this is just my jaded opinion...but any talk of impeachment is just hot air. Granted, I'd like to see Bush and his cronies gone as much as the next guy with half a brain...but realistically, the guy's only got two years left in office ( unless the punk can slide through a death writ on the 22nd amendment like he did with military commisions and habeus corpus...) and it'd take both years to push through all of the necessary paperwork. Plus, the dems aren't gonna do a goddamn thing now that they finally have some clout. I lost faith in our little two party political coup many years ago. Unplug. Don't participate. Vote green. Dems are just republicans with a different coloured tie. Localize. local-level politics are the only platform left for the people. Ok. Finished ranting. Merry consumer holiday of your choice. --- Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From discussion to action -- Michael Ratner and his fellow lawyers have drafted a call to impeach President Bush. http://www.alte/rnet.orgstory/32977/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Anyone done an EV conversion?
Read Bob Brant's book Build Your Own Electric Vehicle. He say s 30% or greater. Good Luck, Oregon Bob - Original Message - From: Luke Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 9:03 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Anyone done an EV conversion? I'm thinking of attempting a conversion on my 1976 Chevy 1/2 ton van. Maybe a simple 96-volt system...series wire eight 12V car batteries that I find lying around. The range would suck, but this is more just for shits and giggles anyways. Also, feel free to shoot me down here, but I've heard of folks using their starter motors as drive motors for the cars themselves...anyone care to comment? Thanks, Luke __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Impeach Bush
The corrected URL is http://www.alternet.org/story/32977/ This story was posted back in March of this year - so since then Americans have taken a small first step which is to move away from the current administration after the last elections - but where is the outrage? Where are the street protests? And why is impeachment 'off the table' with the Democrats? What's in it for them? Isn't that as outrageous as the crimes of the current administration? Quoting Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From discussion to action -- Michael Ratner and his fellow lawyers have drafted a call to impeach President Bush. http://www.alte/rnet.orgstory/32977/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/