Re: [Biofuel] Worst WVO Ever?
Al, I spent a few hours monkeying around with this stuff. I succeeded in making soap. A couple of years ago I split the glyc. mix methanol recovery. I blended the FFAs that split out with BD to fuel my oil-fired heating system. I can't help but think that somebody dumped FFAs into the dumpster. A sample from the top titrated 19; deeper titrated 24!!! The FFAs split from the glyc mix titrate 33. Maybe they split the glyc in order to recover the methanol, and had no use for the FFAs. The good news: This stuff burns nicely in a friend's waste oil heater. A 100+ gal will help heat his shop next winter. Thanks for the good advice, Tom - Original Message - From: A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Worst WVO Ever? My thoughts as well ... after sleeping on it. I have a cubie (4.5gal/17.7L) of the WVO. As time permits I'll do some test batches using A/B two step. As the price of veg oil increases, some restaurants are changing less frequently. It might be a good idea for me to become better acquainted with processing bad oil. If I can convert this stuff I can probably deal with just about anything. Since you are an experienced A/B two stepper, I'd like your thoughts on the following: I have had great success composting glycerin after it has been split from the mix. Unsplit glycerin composts, but does not seem to do as well as split glyc. I suspect the presence of soaps is the reason. A/B two step not only increases yield, but should reduce the amount of soap produced . Yes? - once neutralized, the glyc from A/B two step more closely resembles the split glyc. Best to You, Tom Hi Tom, All I do with my glycerine is mix it with sawdust and burn it. Indeed, I get less glycerine from using the 2-step method, but beyond that, I don't monkey with it... Not to appear terse, (I can't remember the exact science) but as memory serves, the 2-step allows more oil to be made into bio-fuel, hence, less glycerine... I'd ask you to have a peek at the JTF site, again, not to appear terse - I'll be revisiting too, to refresh my memory. (D'oh!) Single step is well-suited to gently used oil, but hard-used oil demands 2-step, unless you'd like a 30% (or so)return of oil and 70% glyc... If there's Magnesol in it - run for your life!! It's a BDr's nightmare!! Regards, Al Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Worst WVO Ever?
Hi Tom, Using it to heat a shop or such is probably the best thing you can do with something as haywire as that - glad you found out *before* you made a large batch of soap... I still have a lot of that bad oil from the supplier I let go, and will continue to work with it, but it's sure nasty stuff... monetarily - not worth the effort... environmentally - gotta do it... as for the advice, my favorite one-liner; Take my advice - I'm not using it... g Al, I spent a few hours monkeying around with this stuff. I succeeded in making soap. A couple of years ago I split the glyc. mix methanol recovery. I blended the FFAs that split out with BD to fuel my oil-fired heating system. I can't help but think that somebody dumped FFAs into the dumpster. A sample from the top titrated 19; deeper titrated 24!!! The FFAs split from the glyc mix titrate 33. Maybe they split the glyc in order to recover the methanol, and had no use for the FFAs. The good news: This stuff burns nicely in a friend's waste oil heater. A 100+ gal will help heat his shop next winter. Thanks for the good advice, Tom Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Carbon Capture Juggernaut Rolls on
It seems that the best way to prevent solve the climate change problem is to lessen energy consumption and plant more trees. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 4:06 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] The Carbon Capture Juggernaut Rolls on The Carbon Capture Juggernaut Rolls on If the coal industry's carbon capture and storage (CCS) plan were ever implemented, it would be the largest hazardous waste disposal project that humans have ever undertaken, and among the most dangerous as well. A new report explains why the plan cannot work. http://www.precaution.org/lib/08/prn_more_ccs.080515.htm Rachel's Democracy Health News #959, May 15, 2008 The carbon capture juggernaut rolls on [Rachel's introduction: If the coal industry's carbon capture and storage (CCS) plan were ever implemented, it would be the largest hazardous waste disposal project that humans have ever undertaken, and among the most dangerous as well. A new report explains why the plan cannot work.] The coal, oil, automobile, railroad and electric power industries are planning to solve the global warming problem by capturing carbon dioxide (CO2) and burying it a mile underground, hoping it will stay there forever. The plan is called CCS, short for carbon capture and storage (or sometimes carbon capture and sequestration). Emitting CO2 into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuels (coal, oil, and natural gas) is thought to be the main human contribution to global warming. If industry's CCS plan were ever implemented, it would be the largest hazardous waste disposal project that humans have ever undertaken, and among the most dangerous as well. As the New York Times reported April 23, 2008, A large leak of underground carbon dioxide could be as dangerous as a leak of nuclear fuel, critics say. Now a new report by Emily Rochon and others, published by Greenpeace International, describes industry's CCS plan in detail and shows, point by point, why it cannot prevent climate chaos. http://www.precaution.org/lib/gp_report_false_hope.080505.pdf Anyone who wants a basic introduction to CCS will want to get a copy of Rochon's report. It is a thoroughly documented, carefully argued, presentation of industry's plan, with professional graphics that clarify how CCS is supposed to work. Rochon's report is even-handed, often leaning over backwards to present the industry plan in the best possible light. Still, the report concludes that CCS is a dangerous gamble that ultimately cannot prevent climate chaos because -- even if it works -- it will arrive too late to do any good. In 40 pages, Rochon's report reinforces five main points: 1. CCS wastes energy. Capturing carbon dioxide will consume 10% to 40% of the energy produced by a power plant. This means that, on average, CCS would require construction of a fifth power plant for every 4 new power plants that use CCS. Thus CCS requires, on average, 25% more coal mining, transportation, and waste disposal than non-CCS power plants. CCS would also increase the water requirements of power plants by 90%. 2. CCS is expensive. CCS will double the cost of a power plant and will increase the cost of electricity somewhere between 21% and 91%, according to U.S. government figures. Worse, CCS will divert funds away from renewable sources of energy and energy conservation projects, which could reduce CO2 emissions faster and at lower cost than CCS. 3. Storing carbon dioxide underground is risky. No one can guarantee that CO2 buried in the ground will stay put forever. Even very low leakage rates could reverse the climate benefits achieved initially by CO2 burial. 4. CCS carries significant liability risks. A large leak of CO2 could kill vegetation, animals, and humans over a fairly large area. Industry is already angling to get taxpayers to shoulder the liability. With some 6000 CCS burial projects required to make a significant dent in the CO2 problem, opportunities for serious mishaps will be ever-present. 5. CCS cannot deliver in time to avert climate chaos. The world's scientific community is saying CO2 emissions must peak by 2015 and decline thereafter -- but even the most optimistic industry plans call for CCS to begin in 2020 -- and most industry spokespeople are saying CCS won't be available until 2030 to 2050. Despite these fatal flaws in industry's CCS plan, the U.S. and Europe (and probably China) are counting on CCS to solve the global warming problem. As Fred pearce wrote in New Scientist March 29, In Germany, only CCS can make sense of an energy policy that combines a large number of new coal-fired power stations with plans for a 40 per cent cut in CO2 emissions by 2020. And the New York Times reported April 23, Over the next five years, Italy will increase its reliance on
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [Longevity] Refined Carbohydrates and the Fast Track to Disease
It is only for the last few hundred years or so that food has been relatively abundant for humans. Before farming we were hunters for millions of years since the early humans. Our bodies have evolved to digest unprocessed food and conserve the nutrients we get from them. Nowadays the food we eat are already pre-digested and our lifestyles have become sedentary (no hunting and gathering with extended periods of going without food). Its no wonder cases of obesity has gone up along with related complications and who knows what other effects this has on our bodies. Best, Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk McLoren Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:03 AM To: biofuel Subject: [Biofuel] Fwd: [Longevity] Refined Carbohydrates and the Fast Track to Disease Thought this interesting Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Refined Carbohydrates and the Fast Track to Disease Thursday, May 29, 2008 Byron Richards, CCN http://www.wellnessresources.com/weight/articles/refined_carbohydrates_ and_the_fast_track_to_disease/?source=Emailcamp=news052908 A new study shows just how deadly refined carbohydrates are - even for a healthy person. One serving given to a lean and healthy young adult is adequate to triple the inflammatory response to the surge in glucose. We have known for a long time that the high glycemic/refined carbohydrates (table sugar, white bread, etc.) are disease producing when consumed over a period of time. However, I don't think anyone knew that a single meal activates the core gene signal (NF-KappaB) that drives your body's entire inflammation process - even in a healthy normal-weight person. Excess NF-KappaB activation is the central theme of all diseases - including cancer and heart disease. One hundred years ago Harvey Wiley, M.D. started the FDA so that we could have an organic food supply rich in whole grains. Soon he was booted from his position by the White House and the food industry who wanted nothing to do with healthy food for Americans. These criminals have a century of damage on their hands. Before he died he wrote a tell-all book: The History of a Crime Against the Food Law. Subtitle: The amazing story of the national food and drugs law intended to protect the health of the people perverted to protect the adulteration of food and drugs. Our government bought all the copies so hardly anyone could read it! The profits of the junk food industry and the junk grain industry have crippled the health of our citizens. Our government has been force- feeding this trash on our children for the past 30 years via the school lunch program and the food pyramid guidelines. This program has enabled refined junk food carbohydrates, sold at considerable profit by garbage-oriented food companies, to be the staple of the diet for a growing child. Heads should roll - now that their idiocy has contributed in no small part to an obesity epidemic in our children. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Note: This forum is for discussion of health related subjects but under no circumstances should any information published here be considered a substitute for personal medical advice from a qualified physician. -the ownerYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Longevity/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Longevity/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080529/0258c2d2/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
