Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window
The old ammonia-absorption process should be able to work with biofuel or wood as a fuel. -D From: Gary Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 28 August, 2009 5:17:27 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window Keith - I looked at your response to the solar window post and link. I remember seeing a movie called the Mosquito Coast (possibly with Harrison Ford) set in Africa (I think). The man developed a freezer burning wood. After seeing the picture on your link, I was wondering if you've seen such a thing tailored around a boiler. I heat my house hot water with biofuel. Why not cool it in the manner previously described? Any thoughts? Have you seen such a plan? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks. Gary Frank -Original Message- From: Dawie Coetzee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:25 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window Indeed. Low-yield photo-thermal is interesting to me right now. There seems to me to be useful energy available in indirect hot-water collectors at stagnation, if one has space for a bulky low-stressed Stirling engine and isn't greedy for energy. However, what is lacking in the solar world is a set of rules-of-thumb, that would allow people to get some sort of idea of what sort of yield they might expect for any given level of effort. The people who could benefit most from appropriate solar energy are least in a position to experiment. Climates differ and solar radiation varies from moment to moment, but there must surely be more scope for workable guidelines for the informal constructor than what is out there now. Best regards Dawie Coetzee From: Jason Mier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, 24 August, 2009 11:52:45 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window I don't really know my way round solar stuff (yet - next stop maybe), so my sense of what smells right doesn't go very far. Keith, don't sell yourself short, solar is simple. you only really have two options, transferring energy, or reflecting it. the only hangup is PV uses expensive chemicals to do it. solar thermal solar steam (a little risky) reflective insulation (window quilts, etc.) solar refrigeration!! http://www.solarmirror.com/www_jul01/fridge.html given the proper application of junk, baling wire, and good math, anyone can do solar power, its not rocket surgery as the professionals would like us to think. if everybody realized how simple it was the pros would be out of work- just like anything else. as you say Follow the money. jason _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackT oSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090824/b6fedd63/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090827/fb0ce4e1/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window - absorbtion cooling.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_refrigerator http://www.cogeneration.net/solar_absorption_cooling.htm http://www.homepower.com/article/?file=HP53_pg20_Vanek --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Dawie Coetzee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dawie Coetzee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 11:39 PM The old ammonia-absorption process should be able to work with biofuel or wood as a fuel. -D From: Gary Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 28 August, 2009 5:17:27 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window Keith - I looked at your response to the solar window post and link. I remember seeing a movie called the Mosquito Coast (possibly with Harrison Ford) set in Africa (I think). The man developed a freezer burning wood. After seeing the picture on your link, I was wondering if you've seen such a thing tailored around a boiler. I heat my house hot water with biofuel. Why not cool it in the manner previously described? Any thoughts? Have you seen such a plan? Any input would be appreciated. Thanks. Gary Frank -Original Message- From: Dawie Coetzee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 6:25 AM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window Indeed. Low-yield photo-thermal is interesting to me right now. There seems to me to be useful energy available in indirect hot-water collectors at stagnation, if one has space for a bulky low-stressed Stirling engine and isn't greedy for energy. However, what is lacking in the solar world is a set of rules-of-thumb, that would allow people to get some sort of idea of what sort of yield they might expect for any given level of effort. The people who could benefit most from appropriate solar energy are least in a position to experiment. Climates differ and solar radiation varies from moment to moment, but there must surely be more scope for workable guidelines for the informal constructor than what is out there now. Best regards Dawie Coetzee From: Jason Mier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, 24 August, 2009 11:52:45 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] solar collector window I don't really know my way round solar stuff (yet - next stop maybe), so my sense of what smells right doesn't go very far. Keith, don't sell yourself short, solar is simple. you only really have two options, transferring energy, or reflecting it. the only hangup is PV uses expensive chemicals to do it. solar thermal solar steam (a little risky) reflective insulation (window quilts, etc.) solar refrigeration!! http://www.solarmirror.com/www_jul01/fridge.html given the proper application of junk, baling wire, and good math, anyone can do solar power, its not rocket surgery as the professionals would like us to think. if everybody realized how simple it was the pros would be out of work- just like anything else. as you say Follow the money. jason _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCBpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackT oSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090824/b6fedd63/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090827/fb0ce4e1/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] An interesting speaker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfR03KsAA40feature=channel_page Can Obama Save the Economy? Part 1This man talks to the heart of the problem. Kirk Never before have so many known so little about so much. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090828/b38dc286/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
