[Biofuel] magnetic field on aluminum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0YCTwWvykw Any idea why this difference? In the eddy current equations there is nothing about polarity -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090913/2e20cfd5/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] magnetic field on aluminum
Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0YCTwWvykw Any idea why this difference? In the eddy current equations there is nothing about polarity the reason is given in the comments below the video, having to do with the earth's magnetic fields... The actual cause of this effect was later determined to be the Earth's magnetic field. Because I live around 45 degrees north latitude, the magnet pull on the north magnets pole is mainly downward toward the ground. This additional pull is very strong and simply causes the? north pole of the magnet to tend to rotate downward more than the south pole. This effect would change depending on where you live on the Earth. -- Contentment comes not from having more, but from wanting less. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * All generalizations are false. Including this one. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
Thanks Keith, Snipurl does the trick. As for the rest, your summing up is superb. We know the planes hits the towers. That's about it and no-one in government is interested in exposing the dirty tricks brigade (though Sibel Edmonds might just come through). Regards, Bob. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Sunday, 13 September 2009 8:58 a.m. To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event Hi Bob www.examiner.com/x-18425-LA-County-Nonpartisan-Examiner~y2009m9d10-Who-are - 911-Truthers-What-is-the-911-Truth-Movement http://tinyurl.com/pvpjkv http://tinyurl.com/r2bcob Here you go: http://www.examiner.com/x-18425-LA-County-Nonpartisan-Examiner~y2009m9d10-W ho-are-911-Truthers-What-is-the-911-Truth-Movement Snipurl: http://snipurl.com/rs6y0 Tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/q9hsep I prefer Snipurl, but they both work well. Hi Keith/Bruno et al, Your points well taken, n'less the smell seems to be growing hence the website above. Re posting big items: wasn't aware we suffered a space shortage. No space shortage, I think Bruno meant big in the sense of weighty or troublesome. Actually there is a size limit on messages, it's set at 100 kb, not very small. As for the pros and cons of the issue, the title of the thread suggested the bunfight was far from over hence my additional tuppence worth. I'm still sitting on the fence and hoping someone, somewhere will provide a definitive answer. I've yet to see it. That's right, sad to say. I doubt there'll be a breakthrough any time soon. A Mother Jones writer pointed out that this is the first 9/11 anniversary when the country is no longer being run by those who so cynically exploited horror and legitimate anger. http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/09/911-truth-trutherism-and-truthiness Not to presume that the current bunch are above cynically exploiting horror and legitimate anger, but a lot of the steam might go out of it with Bush-Cheney no longer in the hot seat. I'd like to see an update of the 2006 Scripps poll: Third of Americans suspect 9-11 government conspiracy, 08/01/2006 http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll. Earlier polls put it much higher than a third - some reported that as many as 89% thought the government was lying or complicit (CNN poll, 2004). But there's less pressure now, there might not be an updated poll, and if there is one the figures could be lower. The protesters, if that's the word, have failed to build up the kind of mass movement that might have forced a serious re-examination of what happened, and it's rather unlikely that Obama will take the initiative in questioning the official version. Though I hope not, it could just wind down to a core of diehards who go on and on thumping away about thermite dust and Building 7 and Mossad and so on and everybody else takes about as much notice as they do of all the other conspiracy theories, like who killed the Kennedys (Bill Moyers just said conspiracy theories are as American as apple pie). n'less the smell seems to be growing... I think we have good news noses, you and I, and smell is the right word for this - the whole thing stinks, it did right from the start. I simply don't believe anything beyond the bald facts, that the jets hit the buildings, everything else is just murk and suspicion - the conspiracists get the murk, and everything official gets the suspicion. Meanwhile the death toll keeps mounting - 2,752 at the WTC itself, and these are the current ICH figures: Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered Since The U.S. Invaded Iraq - 1,339,771 Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In America's War On Iraq: 4,661 Number Of International Occupation Force Troops Slaughtered In Afghanistan: 1,378 How many Afghans killed? And Pakistanis? Obama's ratcheting it up in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and he's NOT winding Iraq down - more private contractors (mercenaries) are being moved in than US troops are being moved out. Somehow I think a lot more people than that have died because of 9/11. Will this just go on and on happening until the real truth about 9/11 finally emerges and perhaps upsets some applecarts that very badly need upsetting? Or will the truth never emerge and the killing never stop? :-( Lastly, perhaps most importantly for me, the tinyurl tip was much appreesh. However, my technique probably needs some further honing as it didn't work for me, as per examples. Will go back to the drawing board. Keep at it, you'll get there. All best Keith Regards, Bob. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Friday, 11 September 2009 7:21 a.m. To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
Just to add to the stew: in New Zealand (the clean, green, much-boasted nuclear-free land of absolute neutrality) a journalist was held in a mental hospital as delusional for saying that 9/11 was an inside job. http://snipurl.com/rtcnj I was wrongly diagnosed as delusional by the psychiatric staff of Ward 7 at Northland Base Hospital in Whangarei and held against my will for 11 days in mid-2006, because I maintained the attacks of 9/11 were orchestrated by criminal elements inside the US Administration. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Sunday, 13 September 2009 8:58 a.m. To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event Hi Bob www.examiner.com/x-18425-LA-County-Nonpartisan-Examiner~y2009m9d10-Who-are - 911-Truthers-What-is-the-911-Truth-Movement http://tinyurl.com/pvpjkv http://tinyurl.com/r2bcob Here you go: http://www.examiner.com/x-18425-LA-County-Nonpartisan-Examiner~y2009m9d10-W ho-are-911-Truthers-What-is-the-911-Truth-Movement Snipurl: http://snipurl.com/rs6y0 Tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/q9hsep I prefer Snipurl, but they both work well. Hi Keith/Bruno et al, Your points well taken, n'less the smell seems to be growing hence the website above. Re posting big items: wasn't aware we suffered a space shortage. No space shortage, I think Bruno meant big in the sense of weighty or troublesome. Actually there is a size limit on messages, it's set at 100 kb, not very small. As for the pros and cons of the issue, the title of the thread suggested the bunfight was far from over hence my additional tuppence worth. I'm still sitting on the fence and hoping someone, somewhere will provide a definitive answer. I've yet to see it. That's right, sad to say. I doubt there'll be a breakthrough any time soon. A Mother Jones writer pointed out that this is the first 9/11 anniversary when the country is no longer being run by those who so cynically exploited horror and legitimate anger. http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/09/911-truth-trutherism-and-truthiness Not to presume that the current bunch are above cynically exploiting horror and legitimate anger, but a lot of the steam might go out of it with Bush-Cheney no longer in the hot seat. I'd like to see an update of the 2006 Scripps poll: Third of Americans suspect 9-11 government conspiracy, 08/01/2006 http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll. Earlier polls put it much higher than a third - some reported that as many as 89% thought the government was lying or complicit (CNN poll, 2004). But there's less pressure now, there might not be an updated poll, and if there is one the figures could be lower. The protesters, if that's the word, have failed to build up the kind of mass movement that might have forced a serious re-examination of what happened, and it's rather unlikely that Obama will take the initiative in questioning the official version. Though I hope not, it could just wind down to a core of diehards who go on and on thumping away about thermite dust and Building 7 and Mossad and so on and everybody else takes about as much notice as they do of all the other conspiracy theories, like who killed the Kennedys (Bill Moyers just said conspiracy theories are as American as apple pie). n'less the smell seems to be growing... I think we have good news noses, you and I, and smell is the right word for this - the whole thing stinks, it did right from the start. I simply don't believe anything beyond the bald facts, that the jets hit the buildings, everything else is just murk and suspicion - the conspiracists get the murk, and everything official gets the suspicion. Meanwhile the death toll keeps mounting - 2,752 at the WTC itself, and these are the current ICH figures: Number Of Iraqis Slaughtered Since The U.S. Invaded Iraq - 1,339,771 Number of U.S. Military Personnel Sacrificed (Officially acknowledged) In America's War On Iraq: 4,661 Number Of International Occupation Force Troops Slaughtered In Afghanistan: 1,378 How many Afghans killed? And Pakistanis? Obama's ratcheting it up in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and he's NOT winding Iraq down - more private contractors (mercenaries) are being moved in than US troops are being moved out. Somehow I think a lot more people than that have died because of 9/11. Will this just go on and on happening until the real truth about 9/11 finally emerges and perhaps upsets some applecarts that very badly need upsetting? Or will the truth never emerge and the killing never stop? :-( Lastly, perhaps most importantly for me, the tinyurl tip was much appreesh. However, my technique probably needs some further honing as it didn't work for me, as per examples. Will go back to the drawing board. Keep at it, you'll get there. All best Keith Regards, Bob. -Original Message- From:
Re: [Biofuel] magnetic field on aluminum
The pull is so weak a compass takes some time for the needle to steady. Also the needle has to be very free to respond at all. Seems like too weak a force to be the cause. Kirk --- On Sun, 9/13/09, doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] magnetic field on aluminum To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 11:41 AM Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0YCTwWvykw Any idea why this difference? In the eddy current equations there is nothing about polarity the reason is given in the comments below the video, having to do with the earth's magnetic fields... The actual cause of this effect was later determined to be the Earth's magnetic field. Because I live around 45 degrees north latitude, the magnet pull on the north magnets pole is mainly downward toward the ground. This additional pull is very strong and simply causes the? north pole of the magnet to tend to rotate downward more than the south pole. This effect would change depending on where you live on the Earth. -- Contentment comes not from having more, but from wanting less. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * All generalizations are false. Including this one. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090913/f8aa03d2/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
