Re: [Biofuel] Black Tuesday in Japan
Hi Oskar, thanks, good pull-together. Hi I wanted to add a few comments here, but came to think it is not really needed. Not really, no. :-( One thing to add, I think most domestic hot water in Japan is currently heated by passive solar systems. Best Keith According to Nikkei Newspaper of 14 Sept 2010 and other newspaper reports, Tokyo Electric announced its business plan to triple electricity production in India, China, and other Asian countries within 10 years mainly based on caloric power plants. At the same time for domestic Japan, Tokyo Electric plans to increase CO2 neutral electricity to 50% of output by increasing nuclear power plants. To create need for this electricity, they declared to create incentives to newly electrify areas like room heating or domestic hot water which use little electricity in Japan now. Within ten years, the goal for this new electrification is 30 Terawatthours (30.000.000.000 kWh) http://www.sankeibiz.jp/business/news/100914/bsb1009140504005-n1.htm (2010-09-14) The same Nikkei Newspaper of 2010/09/14 and others report that Mitsui Bussan, C. Itoh and other japanese trading companies announced to bid for development right of coal mines in Mongolia, estimated to become the largest coal mine in the world. C Itoh plans to double its coal output by 2015 to 22 million tons. http://www.bloomberg.co.jp/apps/news?pid=90920010sid=aZpwoGi4kV4I I wanted to add a few comments here, but came to think it is not really needed. Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Black Tuesday in Japan
Thank you for your reply. 2007, solar thermal systems installed total in Japan residential use was 1%, simple batch heaters less than 7% and rapidly *de*creasing. source: http://www.ssda.or.jp/profile/databook.pdf p27 In Tokyo, the *first* condo with solar thermal was just put on the market a week ago, http://www3.daiwahouse.co.jp/mansion/kanto/29000/setagaya282/ pointing the way but also illustrating how far Japan is lagging behind and how huge the remaining solar thermal market in Japan is. Kind regards Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com On 9/14/2010, Keith Addison wrote: One thing to add, I think most domestic hot water in Japan is currently heated by passive solar systems. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Weather report
On 9/12/2010 3:46 AM, Keith Addison wrote: Hi Robert Ah, what joys we have to come. :-( Now that the basic damage is done and global warming is right here with us, not just over the horizon or only a myth or whatever, it doesn't seem to take very much to tip things over, does it? Yet I'm still amazed at the groundswell of denial I hear. Part of this, no doubt, stems from the disconnect people here have with their environment. If it's hot, they turn on the air conditioner. If it's cold, they turn up the heat. As long as the grocery store has cheap food available in abundance, no one is the least bit concerned. I hear: Oh, those local farmers are charging WAY too much for their produce, as if local conditions had no bearing on a farmer's ability to produce a crop. Our neighbors shake their heads at the state of my garden this year. After such bounty last summer, the pickings are pretty slim right now . . . I have wondered whether or not that Icelandic volcano eruption had something to do with the strange weather this season. Normally, La Nina years give us dry winters and wet summers. This year has defied my expectations. Fortunately, when the garden turns into a horizontal domino all of a sudden, we can still hop in the truck and go shop at the supermarket, and fill up at the gas stand on the way home. Now ain't that convenient. Not to say downright suspicious. For those who actually grow a garden, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that something is wrong, grocery stores notwithstanding. We didn't spend much time in the garden this year, it looks like a jungle. I haven't seen any wilted weeds though, in spite of the heat and lack of rain, everything looks good (if you think healthy weeds can look good), and what crops we planted did okay, though we neglected them - tomatoes, beans, cucumbers, peppers, aubergines, potatoes, maize, nice to have. We had such a cold spring and such a dry summer, nothing really did that well this year. My son's tomatoes were just starting to ripen when the rain began in earnest. I have a LOT of shredding to do, but the material is too damp for my new, 3 HP electric shredder. (The machine is a real beast, but it clogs easily if it's fed a diet of moist feedstock!) The plum trees have taken a real beating from aphids this year, too. Their leaves are full of holes and sticky! I'm ready to cut down the apple tree, and our cherry is quite unhappy. Phenology (the study of cyclic and seasonal natural phenomena, esp. in relation to climate and plant and animal life) gives a good early view of the changes, and I've been watching quite closely since about February, checking to see what came back from the migrations and what didn't, and when, and what appeared on time and what didn't. All the birds seem to have made it, and most everything else too, I'm pleased to say. We've seen a few newcomers. I'd never noticed blue jays in this area, but we have them, now. There are a few others I don't recognize that have joined the robins, swifts and sparrows that come into our neighborhood each spring. I wish they ate aphids . . . The wasps and lady beetles simply can't keep up! The magic weasel (who's not interested in poultry) departed on time as usual for his tryst with the lady weasel in the next valley, he should be back next month. But the mosquitoes arrived two months late, though the rice paddies were planted on time We were expecting a bad mosquito year, but I think the weather was too cold in the spring and too dry in the summer for many of them to survive. Even in Alaska, we weren't troubled by mosquitoes too often. , and the cockroaches also arrived two months late, but they made up for it in sheer weight of numbers - I've never seen so many cockroaches. Tough critters, cockroaches, not easy to make them late. What sort of domino is a cockroach? And I've only seen two fireflies so far - usually we have whole fields glimmering with them, lovely. I remember fireflies from visiting my father in North Carolina. They're magical creatures. We don't have them here, though. snip Oh, I forgot about that netting, said Midori. I glared at her, and sent her off to fetch some cutters. Meanwhile I took a closer look at the deer, which involved my climbing up beside it and putting my arm round its shoulders so I could lean over for a better look at its entangled horns. It didn't like that much, shivered in fear. I gave it a hug and said soothing things but it didn't help. Both horns were entangled, I'd have to cut the rope twice. But once I'd cut one side it would be able to move. Hm. It was bigger than me, and very much stronger. Damn. Oh yeah. Don't MESS with deer! Your very humorous story sounds like the urban legend of a rancher who tried to lasso a deer: http://forums.fishusa.com/m_54325/printable.htm In the hills above my
Re: [Biofuel] Black Tuesday in Japan
That doesn't seem to be right, Oskar. This is from Wikipedia, mostly about PV: Solar power in Japan has been expanding since the late 1990s. The country is a leading manufacturer of solar panels and is in the top 5 ranking for countries with the most solar PV installed. Japan is third in the world in total solar power (behind Germany and Spain), with most of it grid connected. Wiki's refs: 1. National survey report of PV Power applications in Japan 2006 retrieved 16 October 2008 http://www.iea-pvps.org/countries/download/nsr06/06jpnnsr.pdf 2. Global Market Outlook for photovoltaics until 2013 retrieved 22 May 2009 http://www.epia.org/index.php?id=491 3. Japan renews focus on solar power http://www.upi.com/Energy_Resources/2008/12/26/Japan_renews_focus_on_solar_power/UPI-37681230300775/ 4. Soto, Shigeru (2010-02-09). Japan's Solar Panel Sales Rise to Record on Subsidy (Update1). BusinessWeek. Retrieved 2010-09-10. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-09/japan-s-solar-panel-sales-rise-to-record-on-subsidy-update1-.html 5. Yamamoto, Masamichi and Osamu Ikki (2010-05-28). National survey report of PV Power Applications in Japan 2009. International Energy Agency. Retrieved 2010-09-10. http://www.iea-pvps.org/countries/download/nsr09/NSR_2009_Japan_100620.pdf I often see passive solar water heaters in the rural areas, and in the suburbs. There's one on our roof. Sadly, it's not in use. This old house has two water systems, an old well with a pump, and, later, mains, and the solar heater is connected to the well. The house uses the mains supply, along with an energy-saving (allegedly) electric water heater. We don't own the house, and I won't interfere. Other houses here have passive solar water heaters that are in use. Best Keith Thank you for your reply. 2007, solar thermal systems installed total in Japan residential use was 1%, simple batch heaters less than 7% and rapidly *de*creasing. source: http://www.ssda.or.jp/profile/[EMAIL PROTECTED] In Tokyo, the *first* condo with solar thermal was just put on the market a week ago, http://www3.daiwahouse.co.jp/mansion/kanto/29000/setagaya282/ pointing the way but also illustrating how far Japan is lagging behind and how huge the remaining solar thermal market in Japan is. Kind regards Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com On 9/14/2010, Keith Addison wrote: One thing to add, I think most domestic hot water in Japan is currently heated by passive solar systems. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Black Tuesday in Japan/PV peaking unit
Should I bother with fooling with this any longer? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/africapowerandlight/ I got no response at Maker Faire Africa (or anywhere else) and am about to pack it in and go on to my latest project http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Multimachine-Concrete-Machine-Tools/ I hope I have more luck with a $30 screw cutting metal lathe for schools and small shops in Developing Countries. Pat Delany - Original Message From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 12:12:02 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Black Tuesday in Japan That doesn't seem to be right, Oskar. This is from Wikipedia, mostly about PV: Solar power in Japan has been expanding since the late 1990s. The country is a leading manufacturer of solar panels and is in the top 5 ranking for countries with the most solar PV installed. Japan is third in the world in total solar power (behind Germany and Spain), with most of it grid connected. Wiki's refs: 1. National survey report of PV Power applications in Japan 2006 retrieved 16 October 2008 http://www.iea-pvps.org/countries/download/nsr06/06jpnnsr.pdf 2. Global Market Outlook for photovoltaics until 2013 retrieved 22 May 2009 http://www.epia.org/index.php?id=491 3. Japan renews focus on solar power http://www.upi.com/Energy_Resources/2008/12/26/Japan_renews_focus_on_solar_power/UPI-37681230300775/ 4. Soto, Shigeru (2010-02-09). Japan's Solar Panel Sales Rise to Record on Subsidy (Update1). BusinessWeek. Retrieved 2010-09-10. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-09/japan-s-solar-panel-sales-rise-to-record-on-subsidy-update1-.html 5. Yamamoto, Masamichi and Osamu Ikki (2010-05-28). National survey report of PV Power Applications in Japan 2009. International Energy Agency. Retrieved 2010-09-10. http://www.iea-pvps.org/countries/download/nsr09/NSR_2009_Japan_100620.pdf I often see passive solar water heaters in the rural areas, and in the suburbs. There's one on our roof. Sadly, it's not in use. This old house has two water systems, an old well with a pump, and, later, mains, and the solar heater is connected to the well. The house uses the mains supply, along with an energy-saving (allegedly) electric water heater. We don't own the house, and I won't interfere. Other houses here have passive solar water heaters that are in use. Best Keith Thank you for your reply. 2007, solar thermal systems installed total in Japan residential use was 1%, simple batch heaters less than 7% and rapidly *de*creasing. source: http://www.ssda.or.jp/profile/[EMAIL PROTECTED] In Tokyo, the *first* condo with solar thermal was just put on the market a week ago, http://www3.daiwahouse.co.jp/mansion/kanto/29000/setagaya282/ pointing the way but also illustrating how far Japan is lagging behind and how huge the remaining solar thermal market in Japan is. Kind regards Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com On 9/14/2010, Keith Addison wrote: One thing to add, I think most domestic hot water in Japan is currently heated by passive solar systems. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Black Tuesday in Japan
The puzzle is easy to solve - you are confusing completely different forms of solar energy: In your first comment you mentioned passive solar water heaters, in connection with most domestic hot water in Japan, which is solar _thermal_. I quoted the proliferation data for solar thermal water heaters in Japan, based on the survey of the manufacturers association. Your references 1,2,3,4,5 talk about PV, spell photovoltaics, which is solar _electric_. To use photovoltaics to produce heat is inefficient thus rare. Japan heavily subsidizes grid-connected solar electricity (not off-grid solar electricity!) to 1) meet daytime power demand peaks which cannot be met with nuclear power because of their constant output and to 2) provide stable domestic income to the PV industry so that they stay competitive in the export markets. PV in Japan is a feel-good product that helps nuclear power and the export business of four PV manufacturers. The tax payer is told this is eco, some would call it dumping. The Tokyo Electric business plan calls for _more_ consumption of electricity in Japan in _inefficient_ areas, i.e. invites waste instead of reducing waste. Heating and warm water are the easiest applications of solar thermal energy. Yes, Japan *was* a big user of solar thermal, that is why you can see many old solar hot water heaters in Japan, out of use, numbers decreasing. Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com On 9/14/2010, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesn't seem to be right, Oskar. This is from Wikipedia, mostly about PV: Solar power in Japan has been expanding since the late 1990s. The country is a leading manufacturer of solar panels and is in the top 5 ranking for countries with the most solar PV installed. Japan is third in the world in total solar power (behind Germany and Spain), with most of it grid connected. Wiki's refs: 1. National survey report of PV Power applications in Japan 2006 retrieved 16 October 2008 http://www.iea-pvps.org/countries/download/nsr06/06jpnnsr.pdf 2. Global Market Outlook for photovoltaics until 2013 retrieved 22 May 2009 http://www.epia.org/index.php?id=491 3. Japan renews focus on solar power http://www.upi.com/Energy_Resources/2008/12/26/Japan_renews_focus_on_solar_power/UPI-37681230300775/ 4. Soto, Shigeru (2010-02-09). Japan's Solar Panel Sales Rise to Record on Subsidy (Update1). BusinessWeek. Retrieved 2010-09-10. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-09/japan-s-solar-panel-sales-rise-to-record-on-subsidy-update1-.html 5. Yamamoto, Masamichi and Osamu Ikki (2010-05-28). National survey report of PV Power Applications in Japan 2009. International Energy Agency. Retrieved 2010-09-10. http://www.iea-pvps.org/countries/download/nsr09/NSR_2009_Japan_100620.pdf I often see passive solar water heaters in the rural areas, and in the suburbs. There's one on our roof. Sadly, it's not in use. This old house has two water systems, an old well with a pump, and, later, mains, and the solar heater is connected to the well. The house uses the mains supply, along with an energy-saving (allegedly) electric water heater. We don't own the house, and I won't interfere. Other houses here have passive solar water heaters that are in use. Best Keith Thank you for your reply. 2007, solar thermal systems installed total in Japan residential use was 1%, simple batch heaters less than 7% and rapidly *de*creasing. source: http://www.ssda.or.jp/profile/databook.pdf#65533;p27 In Tokyo, the *first* condo with solar thermal was just put on the market a week ago, http://www3.daiwahouse.co.jp/mansion/kanto/29000/setagaya282/ pointing the way but also illustrating how far Japan is lagging behind and how huge the remaining solar thermal market in Japan is. Kind regards Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com On 9/14/2010, Keith Addison wrote: One thing to add, I think most domestic hot water in Japan is currently heated by passive solar systems. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Black Tuesday in Japan
I understood that Japan didn't subsidize that heavily at least not compared to north american electricity rates. In Canada the rate is about 6 cents per kwh but then they add surcharges and debt recovery for our defunct candu reactors that never run right and the total charge is about 13 cents per kwh in Ontario that is.. Keith, what it the rate in Japan today? Joe Oskar Bartenstein wrote: Snip Japan heavily subsidizes grid-connected solar electricity (not off-grid solar electricity!) to 1) meet daytime power demand peaks which cannot be met with nuclear power because of their constant output and to 2) provide stable domestic income to the PV industry so that they stay competitive in the export markets. PV in Japan is a feel-good product that helps nuclear power and the export business of four PV manufacturers. The tax payer is told this is eco, some would call it dumping. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
