Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out
Hi Aleks! hope all is well with you Keith Got more problems than a cat with 20 kittens and only two tits. :-) Changing countries has never been so complicated before. Nearly there though - I'll go out in an hour or so and dash about the place again, and that should be it, then I can take it easy for a while. Yes, all's well. Way cool! How is Cape Town? Warm! (It's snowing again today in Kyoto.) I believe, the summer is ending? Not quite yet. There've been a couple of foggy mornings, cooler, and some wind, but not really - I think the wind really starts blowing in April. Looking forvard to a nice fall, eh. Indeed I am. And you to a nice spring? Does Slovenia have a Mediterranean climate? BTW, I got my sweetheart a kei car yesterday! Good! Now you'll want one for yourself. :-) It's a Subaru VIVIO, 17 years old. A little gem of an engine: only 660 cc and multipoint injection. It's a 4WD, works like magic on snow. A full fuel tank is les than 25 litres, which will take you 500 kilometers far. I have been an utter idiot for not getting one of these a while ago. This car is surprisingly roomy for its rather small size, and quite comfortable. Least of all, you can get a new winter tire for it for les than 30 euros. On the side of the registration and insurance costs: only a 50 cc moped is cheaper per year. Anyways, way cheap, only sipping fuel and a quite comfortable ride. And sadly the only kei car available in continental Europe AFAIK. Pitty they stopped making them in '95. I think they still make them. Pics: http://www.google.com/images?q=Subaru+VIVIOum=1ie=UTF-8source=univsa=Xei=7mR3TcC6FYKEvgO1sYHcBQved=0CCsQsAQ Kei cars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_cars There are dealers that export second-hand kei trucks all over the world, including to Europe I think, and probably kei cars too, not sure. I'd like to get another kei truck. They should be available here. I'll check it out. Cheers for now - all best Keith Cheers, Aleks ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out
Hello Kirk I am financially strapped but hopefully my Sako will sell soon and my friend will cut the wheel for me. What's a Sako? I actually thought it would be so apparent when pointed out that people could get busy and throw them together. But nobody has, have they? It's obviously apparent to you, but perhaps not to anyone else. And it'll cost some money, it sounds like it needs precision engineering. So then it wouldn't be a matter of just throwing them together, would it? People need to be convinced before they'll invest time and money. I was further motivated to disclose because of my health. I'm sorry to hear that. I very well could not be here to disclose if I waited. -Oh well. I wasn't talking about waiting. Plans are as easy as falling off a log. Well that shouldn't be a problem for you then. If plans would be that easy, why not produce plans? Sorry if this seems tiresome, but the rest of your message is just another explanation. Explanations are not the same as plans, a working model, a design. As far as I'm concerned, and perhaps to most of us here, all it amounts to is just more theorising. So I gurantee it works. You can't guarantee it. Guarantees are 100%. Until you've built a working model and proved that it works as you think it will, you won't really know yourself whether it works or not, despite your conviction that it will. Don't you owe it to yourself to do that? Best wishes Keith momentum is transferred between 2 masses using a wheel as a lever and the only thing you have to observe is input momentum is transferred at v/2 and output mass has to have the same mass relationship as the ratio of wheel diameters. ie if mass is 4:1 then driven point on wheel and output point on wheel are also 4:1 Capturing the faster mass after it has swapped its ke for altitude is done with a ferris wheel (or think water wheel) or cups on a belt also called an elevator in the agriculture industry. People insist on thinking ke is something besides velocity and it isnt. The glareing clue should be it ignores Newtons 3rd law of motion. When Einstein discussed conservation of energy he used momentum not ke. There is a reason he chose to do it that way I suppose the classic textbook nonsense is they describe a mass moving at x velocity picking up (colliding) with an equivalent mass and now moving v/2. They show how no momentum was lost, ie m1v1=m2v2 and then fall off the wagon with the absurdity the missing ke was turned into heat and sound. If you lost no momentum you lost no energy. Cant have it both ways. So much for Newtonian mechanics in the 21st century educational system. So I gurantee it works. Just have to keep beating my head against the wall I suppose. I think educated people are at a disadvantage. If you believe something to the point there is no doubt, no question in your mind, then when asked to change it you have to go through some profound psychological changes. I know when I fianally saw it I actually felt physically dizzy for a moment. Interesting that changing a viewpoint could do that. Seems once something is part of the paradigm we can go hysterically blind rather than challenge it. Funny creatures arent we? Soon, very soon, my friend I can take pictures and hopefully that will do it. All the best Kirk From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 2:10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out Hello Kirk I published my notes on the Bessler list how momentum can be manipulated to extract power. Probably the best fuel is no fuel needed http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=84182#84182 But I don't see much there. There's some discussion further up the page and so on. Can we look forward to you building a working device in the near future? someone asks. Can we? Now we need to set up a shop and turn them out by the thousands, you say. But that requires a working model, a design, plans, not just theoretical discussion, or nobody'll buy it except the true-believers. Sorry to sound so negative, but that's how it is, IMHO. Do you have a design that works, not just something for further experimentation? hope all is well with you Keith Got more problems than a cat with 20 kittens and only two tits. :-) Changing countries has never been so complicated before. Nearly there though - I'll go out in an hour or so and dash about the place again, and that should be it, then I can take it easy for a while. Yes, all's well. I hope all's well with you too Kirk. All best Keith Kirk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out
-believers. Sorry to sound so negative, but that's how it is, IMHO. Do you have a design that works, not just something for further experimentation? hope all is well with you Keith Got more problems than a cat with 20 kittens and only two tits. :-) Changing countries has never been so complicated before. Nearly there though - I'll go out in an hour or so and dash about the place again, and that should be it, then I can take it easy for a while. Yes, all's well. I hope all's well with you too Kirk. All best Keith Kirk ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110309/5ad4d854/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out
A Sako is a Finnish rifle. Oh, a gun. Well, good luck selling it. I have one of the 3 lug magnums. They dont make them anymore. Too expensive to manufacture they say. The bolt is more rigid as it has support every 120 degrees instead of 180. Machine precision isnt great. A weldingshop can do it. Not like you were going to build a hydraulic cylinder or an engine. More like the skill set of building a water wheel. The mechanical processes are familiar, just combined uniquely. A hammer is a hammer even when it is part of my machine. I intend to build one. We'll wait then. Just thought I wouldnt make the world wait until I found resources. It'll wait until you build one, IMHO. I'm not sure I understand though. Anybody with a computer and an Internet connection belongs to the economic elite. If it's such a simple job, surely you can afford it? How much will it cost? I suppose most people would keep it secret and patent it and become the next General Electric. I don't think patents work very well anymore, unless you're already General Electric or someone/something like them/it. Guess I am a weird duck. Maybe you're just normal. There've been a lot of arguments about it here, but there's more than ample hard evidence (see list archives) that what most distinguishes humankind isn't greediness and narrow self-interest as so often alleged, but kindness and generosity. Best Keith Kirk From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 5:56:48 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out Hello Kirk I am financially strapped but hopefully my Sako will sell soon and my friend will cut the wheel for me. What's a Sako? I actually thought it would be so apparent when pointed out that people could get busy and throw them together. But nobody has, have they? It's obviously apparent to you, but perhaps not to anyone else. And it'll cost some money, it sounds like it needs precision engineering. So then it wouldn't be a matter of just throwing them together, would it? People need to be convinced before they'll invest time and money. I was further motivated to disclose because of my health. I'm sorry to hear that. I very well could not be here to disclose if I waited. -Oh well. I wasn't talking about waiting. Plans are as easy as falling off a log. Well that shouldn't be a problem for you then. If plans would be that easy, why not produce plans? Sorry if this seems tiresome, but the rest of your message is just another explanation. Explanations are not the same as plans, a working model, a design. As far as I'm concerned, and perhaps to most of us here, all it amounts to is just more theorising. So I gurantee it works. You can't guarantee it. Guarantees are 100%. Until you've built a working model and proved that it works as you think it will, you won't really know yourself whether it works or not, despite your conviction that it will. Don't you owe it to yourself to do that? Best wishes Keith momentum is transferred between 2 masses using a wheel as a lever and the only thing you have to observe is input momentum is transferred at v/2 and output mass has to have the same mass relationship as the ratio of wheel diameters. ie if mass is 4:1 then driven point on wheel and output point on wheel are also 4:1 Capturing the faster mass after it has swapped its ke for altitude is done with a ferris wheel (or think water wheel) or cups on a belt also called an elevator in the agriculture industry. People insist on thinking ke is something besides velocity and it isnt. The glareing clue should be it ignores Newtons 3rd law of motion. When Einstein discussed conservation of energy he used momentum not ke. There is a reason he chose to do it that way I suppose the classic textbook nonsense is they describe a mass moving at x velocity picking up (colliding) with an equivalent mass and now moving v/2. They show how no momentum was lost, ie m1v1=m2v2 and then fall off the wagon with the absurdity the missing ke was turned into heat and sound. If you lost no momentum you lost no energy. Cant have it both ways. So much for Newtonian mechanics in the 21st century educational system. So I gurantee it works. Just have to keep beating my head against the wall I suppose. I think educated people are at a disadvantage. If you believe something to the point there is no doubt, no question in your mind, then when asked to change it you have to go through some profound psychological changes. I know when I fianally saw it I actually felt physically dizzy for a moment. Interesting that changing a viewpoint could do that. Seems once something is part of the paradigm we can go hysterically blind rather than challenge it. Funny creatures arent we? Soon, very soon, my friend I can take pictures and hopefully that will do it. All the best Kirk From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out
Ahoy! Hi Aleks! hope all is well with you Keith Got more problems than a cat with 20 kittens and only two tits. :-) Changing countries has never been so complicated before. Nearly there though - I'll go out in an hour or so and dash about the place again, and that should be it, then I can take it easy for a while. Yes, all's well. Way cool! How is Cape Town? Warm! (It's snowing again today in Kyoto.) I believe, the summer is ending? Not quite yet. There've been a couple of foggy mornings, cooler, and some wind, but not really - I think the wind really starts blowing in April. Looking forvard to a nice fall, eh. Indeed I am. And you to a nice spring? Does Slovenia have a Mediterranean climate? Partly. The terrain rises considerably from the Adriatic sea inlands. The effect can be felt some 60-70 km inwards. Not where I live. But in favourable weather conditions, the fall can have prolonged periods of mild climate even past november 1st. 2009 was such a year, my sweatheart was sunbathing untill mid december, with outside day temperatures reaching 17-18°C at the end of november. More influental even are mediterranean cyclons. We can definitely feel those. November 28th 2010 we got a foot of snow, and for a week every other day yielded another foot till the cyclone disintegrated. BTW, I got my sweetheart a kei car yesterday! Good! Now you'll want one for yourself. :-) Well. As with every story men tell about the wimens, my previous statement is only a half truth. The fact is, I bought the car for myself. I'm getting rid of the Fat Girl (Toyota LC 80 series), and I wanted a small car for my daily commute to work. I didn't want just any car, I wanted one with a small and efficient engine. And it had to be reasonably priced, in a reasonable/fixable condition. The latter I don't know yet, you see. I have driven it for 30 minutes only ... Just as I got home, her response was: Just in time. My Kia has a shot bearing and the CV joint is making strange noises. Hand them [car keys] over. So, you see, my driving tests are of a rather limited time. And my nose is still somewhat sagged. It's a Subaru VIVIO, 17 years old. A little gem of an engine: only 660 cc and multipoint injection. It's a 4WD, works like magic on snow. A full fuel tank is les than 25 litres, which will take you 500 kilometers far. I have been an utter idiot for not getting one of these a while ago. This car is surprisingly roomy for its rather small size, and quite comfortable. Least of all, you can get a new winter tire for it for les than 30 euros. On the side of the registration and insurance costs: only a 50 cc moped is cheaper per year. Anyways, way cheap, only sipping fuel and a quite comfortable ride. And sadly the only kei car available in continental Europe AFAIK. Pitty they stopped making them in '95. I think they still make them. Subaru stopped making them in '97, although old stock was inported to the EU until '99. But no new ones were imported after '95 to Slovenia. As there engines are EURO 3, they can not be imported, even from other EU countries. And even if that were possible, ther are only 40 on sale in the whole EU today, at ridicoulous prices. Pics: http://www.google.com/images?q=Subaru+VIVIOum=1ie=UTF-8source=univsa=Xei=7mR3TcC6FYKEvgO1sYHcBQved=0CCsQsAQ Kei cars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_cars There are dealers that export second-hand kei trucks all over the world, including to Europe I think, and probably kei cars too, not sure. Not to this little country they are not! We are (as can be seen on many, many, way too many other occasions) saintlier as Pope Ratzy. It can be seen on Google Earth, search for Slovenia. You can observe a faint golden aura along the borders to Austria, Italy, Hungary and Croatia. For a similar visual effect search up The City of Vatican and, during summer, The Apostolic Palace of Castel Gandolfo. A nice little aura, but ours is stronger ... I'd like to get another kei truck. They should be available here. I'll check it out. Cheers for now - all best Good luck! All the best, Aleks Keith Cheers, Aleks ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
