[Biofuel] How do I get the paper thin white layer

2011-09-08 Thread Ian and Jubilee Miller
Hello to all. I've made two test batches of biodiesel using new oil using
the instructions on the JTF site, which I've read and re-read, along with
many of the mailing list posts. I'm enjoying everything I'm learning, but
still have a ton to learn. I also have a question. In both my test batches
I've performed the quality tests recommended. The fuel passes the methanol
test fine, with no glycerine settling out. When I come to the wash test, I
have perhaps an eighth of an inch of white foam between the water and the
biodiesel. It separates quite well though. I've tried to follow all
instructions to the letter and I ordered my chemicals from DudaDiesel, so I
assume they are a good quality. I assume the foam is soap. It could be that
my measurements aren't precise enough, but if they aren't it's because of my
instruments. I have been very meticulous in my measurements.

I've gone ahead and washed the biodiesel from both batches, and they also
have a lot of white foam, although they also separate very quickly. With
both batches I've just kept washing until there's no more white junk and the
water is clear. Does this take care of the soap (if that's what it is), or
is there still something to be concerned about? Also, any suggestions on how
to get that paper thin white layer instead of the thicker one I have now?
I'm using new oil, what I think are quality chemicals, and I'm being as
meticulous as I know how to be. As far as I know, I'm following your
instructions to the letter.

I thank you for your help,

Ian
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Re: [Biofuel] How do I get the paper thin white layer

2011-09-08 Thread Thomas Kelly
Ian,
   Passing the methanol test indicates that you
successfully converted the veg oil to biodiesel. What
would settle out is unconverted oil    mono-, di-,
tri-glycerides, not glycerine.
   The problem may be with settling/separation upon
settling, prior to washing. A small amount of glycerine
in the BD would not separate out in the methanol test,
and could contribute to the formation of the layer
between the BD and the water.

   How long do you let the mix settle before separating BD
to be washed?
   Once settled, does your method for separating BD (to be
washed) ensure that there is no glycerine
contamination?

  Tom


 Hello to all. I've made two test batches of biodiesel
 using new oil using
 the instructions on the JTF site, which I've read and
 re-read, along with
 many of the mailing list posts. I'm enjoying everything
 I'm learning, but
 still have a ton to learn. I also have a question. In both
 my test batches
 I've performed the quality tests recommended. The fuel
 passes the methanol
 test fine, with no glycerine settling out. When I come to
 the wash test, I
 have perhaps an eighth of an inch of white foam between
 the water and the
 biodiesel. It separates quite well though. I've tried to
 follow all
 instructions to the letter and I ordered my chemicals from
 DudaDiesel, so I
 assume they are a good quality. I assume the foam is soap.
 It could be that
 my measurements aren't precise enough, but if they aren't
 it's because of my
 instruments. I have been very meticulous in my
 measurements.

 I've gone ahead and washed the biodiesel from both
 batches, and they also
 have a lot of white foam, although they also separate very
 quickly. With
 both batches I've just kept washing until there's no more
 white junk and the
 water is clear. Does this take care of the soap (if that's
 what it is), or
 is there still something to be concerned about? Also, any
 suggestions on how
 to get that paper thin white layer instead of the
 thicker one I have now?
 I'm using new oil, what I think are quality chemicals, and
 I'm being as
 meticulous as I know how to be. As far as I know, I'm
 following your
 instructions to the letter.

 I thank you for your help,

 Ian
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