Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?
I can tell from the responses that none of the people here have read any of the Koran. There is a particular passage known as the Sword Passage that promotes violence against all infidels, particularly jews. Even the foremost experts on Islam are beginning to see that it is a religion of violence. I will gather some articles from well known scholars that show this and post them so that you can form your own opinion of course. This will take me a few days, though. As for the fellow who supposedly did this, my opinion is that it was made up. I read on truthorfiction.com that the guy mentioned in the email claims that it really happened, but there were no others who substantiated this. There had to have been a good number of people there if it really happened so it is suspiscous that no one else can substantiate it. Bobby From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:56:14 -0500 My understanding of the word 'Jihad' is the idea of personal growth. Fighting the good fight within yourself. Battling your demons and all that. Of course as is the case with all the organized religions the ambitious get ahold of a drop of wisdom like that and twist twist twist Joe Jason Katie wrote: ummm... i think i might have to declare bull. isnt the original mindset of Islam peace and prosperity? i had the impression that jihad is supposed to be a method of self defense, not world domination and all that other super-spun crap. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - *From:* MK DuPree mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:11 PM *Subject:* [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me? I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Mendoza, Ray R [NTK] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Golf Teacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: FW: Allah or Jesus? Allah or Jesus..? Something very interesting to share with you... Rick MATHEWS is a well known leader in prison ministry. The Muslim religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!! Allah or Jesus? By Rick Mathews Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: Please, correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the CASE; can you give me the definition of an infidel? There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, Non-believers! I responded, So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in Heaven. Is that correct? The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, Yes. I then stated, Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in Heaven! The Imam was speechless. I continued, I also have problem with being your 'friend' when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah, who tells you to kill me in order for you to go to Heaven, or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be there with me?
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?
Joe, I will be happy to do that as well. I just thought you might not want to here it from a layperson like me, but people who would have more influence, carry more clout, if you will on the subject. I will include this with the articles. Bobby From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:39:45 -0500 Hey Bobby; If you want to present something for us to form our own opinion, then why bother pasting the opinions of the so called experts. There is already at least one level of interpretation there. Why not go to the source. I'm always a fan of getting to the roots. How about pasting in the actual passage for us then? Just a suggestion. Joe Bobby Clark wrote: I can tell from the responses that none of the people here have read any of the Koran. There is a particular passage known as the Sword Passage that promotes violence against all infidels, particularly jews. Even the foremost experts on Islam are beginning to see that it is a religion of violence. I will gather some articles from well known scholars that show this and post them so that you can form your own opinion of course. This will take me a few days, though. As for the fellow who supposedly did this, my opinion is that it was made up. I read on truthorfiction.com that the guy mentioned in the email claims that it really happened, but there were no others who substantiated this. There had to have been a good number of people there if it really happened so it is suspiscous that no one else can substantiate it. Bobby From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:56:14 -0500 My understanding of the word 'Jihad' is the idea of personal growth. Fighting the good fight within yourself. Battling your demons and all that. Of course as is the case with all the organized religions the ambitious get ahold of a drop of wisdom like that and twist twist twist Joe Jason Katie wrote: ummm... i think i might have to declare bull. isnt the original mindset of Islam peace and prosperity? i had the impression that jihad is supposed to be a method of self defense, not world domination and all that other super-spun crap. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - *From:* MK DuPree mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:11 PM *Subject:* [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me? I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Mendoza, Ray R [NTK] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Golf Teacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: FW: Allah or Jesus? Allah or Jesus..? Something very interesting to share with you... Rick MATHEWS is a well known leader in prison ministry. The Muslim religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United States, especially in the minority races!!! Allah or Jesus? By Rick Mathews Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their beliefs. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: Please, correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world and, that by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the CASE; can you give me the definition of an infidel? There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, Non-believers! I responded, So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can have a place in Heaven. Is that correct? The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just been caught with his hand
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?
I can tell now from the responses I hae seen that I should not get involved with this discussion because it seems most people have their pat or canned answers to religion in general when there are obvious differences to those who are willing to do even the minimal research. MOST religions at their core promote peace and harmony, but Islam does not and that is a simple fact. Those who have done violence in the name of other religions have most of the time been acting contradictory to the message of their religion as opposed to following what their religion says. Let's just look at some simple common sense things: 1) The Koran clearly promotes violence. Don't give me this bullcrap about translation. Very intellegent people have translated the Koran into English, not total idiots and there are specific passages that promote violence and martyrdom at the expense of all other peoples. 2) The founder of Islam was a violent, disreputable person. History tells us this. Just those two things ought to send up some red flags. Anyway, if anyone is truly interested in the articles I mentioned before or the snip of this passage from the Koran I mentioned, then I would be happy to forward it to them, but I'm not going to waste my time posting it here as it would most likely just be glossed over anyway. Bobby From: Bobby Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:02:21 -0500 Joe, I will be happy to do that as well. I just thought you might not want to here it from a layperson like me, but people who would have more influence, carry more clout, if you will on the subject. I will include this with the articles. Bobby From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:39:45 -0500 Hey Bobby; If you want to present something for us to form our own opinion, then why bother pasting the opinions of the so called experts. There is already at least one level of interpretation there. Why not go to the source. I'm always a fan of getting to the roots. How about pasting in the actual passage for us then? Just a suggestion. Joe Bobby Clark wrote: I can tell from the responses that none of the people here have read any of the Koran. There is a particular passage known as the Sword Passage that promotes violence against all infidels, particularly jews. Even the foremost experts on Islam are beginning to see that it is a religion of violence. I will gather some articles from well known scholars that show this and post them so that you can form your own opinion of course. This will take me a few days, though. As for the fellow who supposedly did this, my opinion is that it was made up. I read on truthorfiction.com that the guy mentioned in the email claims that it really happened, but there were no others who substantiated this. There had to have been a good number of people there if it really happened so it is suspiscous that no one else can substantiate it. Bobby From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:56:14 -0500 My understanding of the word 'Jihad' is the idea of personal growth. Fighting the good fight within yourself. Battling your demons and all that. Of course as is the case with all the organized religions the ambitious get ahold of a drop of wisdom like that and twist twist twist Joe Jason Katie wrote: ummm... i think i might have to declare bull. isnt the original mindset of Islam peace and prosperity? i had the impression that jihad is supposed to be a method of self defense, not world domination and all that other super-spun crap. Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - *From:* MK DuPree mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:11 PM *Subject:* [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus? Can I get the List's opinion on the following that was forwarded to me? I am in almost complete ignorance of the Muslim religion. Thanks. Mike DuPree - Original Message - From: Mendoza, Ray R [NTK] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Golf Teacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: FW: Allah or Jesus? Allah or Jesus..? Something very interesting to share with you... Rick MATHEWS is a well known leader in prison ministry. The Muslim religion in the fastest growing religion per capita in the United
[Biofuel] Please explain (I blew it)
So this is my first batch of biodiesel that went bad because of an incomplete reaction. So, just for grins I took some of the emulsion and mixed it with about 25% methanol in a jar. Within seconds the emulsion sank to the bottom, and now I have three layers: a slightly cloudy, clear phase on the top (I assume the methanol), a clear amber phase in the middle (I assume methyl esters) and a small layer of mayonnaise on the bottom (I assume part of the emulsion). Can anyone explain what is going on here? Can I take the middle layer and just process it a little further (with some methoxide)? If I have what I think, this may be a good way to salvage emulsified batches. Bobby _ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Please explain (I blew it)
Now that the mixture has completely settled, I have 4 layers. The top is now clear methanol, the middle and largest layer is a clear, bright amber color (I assume this is methyl esters) the bottom two layers all small layers, one appears to be emulsion (yellow, gummy looking) and the very bottom appears to be a cloudy white phase. Again, can someone tell me what is going on? Bobby From: Bobby Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Please explain (I blew it) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:58:24 -0500 So this is my first batch of biodiesel that went bad because of an incomplete reaction. So, just for grins I took some of the emulsion and mixed it with about 25% methanol in a jar. Within seconds the emulsion sank to the bottom, and now I have three layers: a slightly cloudy, clear phase on the top (I assume the methanol), a clear amber phase in the middle (I assume methyl esters) and a small layer of mayonnaise on the bottom (I assume part of the emulsion). Can anyone explain what is going on here? Can I take the middle layer and just process it a little further (with some methoxide)? If I have what I think, this may be a good way to salvage emulsified batches. Bobby _ Use your PC to make calls at very low rates https://voiceoam.pcs.v2s.live.com/partnerredirect.aspx ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Stir Washing
I agree with Joe. My experience has been that even agressive washing with quality fuel should cause rapid separation; within a few minutes it should be mostly separated (even though this is so, I still wait hours before I separate off the wash water). Bobby From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Stir Washing Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:47:35 -0500 Hi Derrick; I would disagree with this. If you are making mayonaise and think it is due to too agressive washing, I think you are on the wrong track. Your problem is elsewhere. Something is not right with your reaction. I use pump washing which is probably the most agressive wash that can be done and when my reactions go well there is no problem. Joe Derick Giorchino wrote: From experience I would slow it down harbor freight tools sells a 110v speed reducer for routers I have used them for motors in my process pumps and drills. This will give you the ability to play with the speed for the best results. I have found if you beat the hell out of the mix you make mayonnaise that can take days to a week or more to separate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tonomár András Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:45 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Stir Washing Hello Everyone, I am building my new 300 liter wash tank and have a 300W motor with 1300 rpm I want to connect it to a stirrer 160 mm in diameter ( 6 inch). Should I do it directly or reduce the rpm??? I have been stir washing for more than a year with a hand drill but I have no idea what rpm is it. I guess around 600 - 800. Any experience and suggestion would be appritiated. Reg. Andrew ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmtagline ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Phosphoric acid
What product names are these acids under? From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Phosphoric acid Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:56:05 -0500 I get it at the hrdware store or the auto parts store Bobby Clark wrote: Anyone, can you answer my question? Bobby From: Bobby Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Phosphoric acid Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:44:31 -0400 I know now I can use phosphoric acid to separate out a crude glycerine product. Where can I get phosphoric acid? Also, for those who do the two stage acid/base process, where can I get sulfuric acid? Down the road, I want to switch to this process, but I will have to make a new processor, the sulfuric acid would probably eat the plumbing in my current processor. Thanks for all of your help! Bobby _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Phosphoric acid
Anyone, can you answer my question? Bobby From: Bobby Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Phosphoric acid Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:44:31 -0400 I know now I can use phosphoric acid to separate out a crude glycerine product. Where can I get phosphoric acid? Also, for those who do the two stage acid/base process, where can I get sulfuric acid? Down the road, I want to switch to this process, but I will have to make a new processor, the sulfuric acid would probably eat the plumbing in my current processor. Thanks for all of your help! Bobby _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Phosphoric acid
I know now I can use phosphoric acid to separate out a crude glycerine product. Where can I get phosphoric acid? Also, for those who do the two stage acid/base process, where can I get sulfuric acid? Down the road, I want to switch to this process, but I will have to make a new processor, the sulfuric acid would probably eat the plumbing in my current processor. Thanks for all of your help! Bobby _ Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] I did it!
I am finally running my 1983 Chevy Pickup on biodiesel! I first started visiting the biofuels website 5 years ago, and after 5 years I am finally doing it! I have a question; how do you separate the impurities from the glycerine? My wife is wanting to use some of it to make soaps. Is it difficult? Thanks for the help that many of you have given me. I really appreciate it! Bobby Clark _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo005002msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] What do I do now?
I've finally managed to get a diesel vehicle, although it is an older one. It is a 1983 Chevy C10 Scottsdale diesel. I would like to use biodiesel in it since I know how and hae used it (biodiesel) in other applications but my understanding is that I have to make some modifications (i.e. replace the rubber parts with viton). Has anyone converted this type of truck before? I'm don't know where all the rubber parts are on this engine and I was hoping there was someone out there with experience who could give me some guidance. Can someone help me? I want to stop using dino-diesel as soon as possible! Thanks, Bobby Clark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?
Yeah, the US missed the opportunity to have someone in office that couldn't make a decision if the life and health of the nation depended on it. I would feel really safe if the democrats had control of the White House... From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] You were saying? Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:47:29 -0700 Hakan Falk wrote: US missed an opportunity in the last election, but Bush cannot stay after his period, if he does not also try to pull AH's last trick. I doubt that this can be done in US, nothing is really left other than the hope that next election will be more kind to the world. Are you kidding? We could have Jeb, then Neil, then Marvin, and after them, Jenna and Barbara. We could have a Bush family dynasty for better than 50 years over here! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Thoughts on the Bush Admninistation
The Bush Administration is not trying to kill you. Sounds like a little paranoia. First of all, I don't think all of the decisions coming out of this administration are wrong; although the media would certainly have you believe so. They really have it out for this president; even to the point of bending the truth and hiding other elements of it. Not to say that this administration has not done the same thing at times, but we've come to expect this in politics, unfortunately. The thing I like about Bush is that he is not afraid to say how he feels and believes. He is not afraid to make a decision. Sometimes indecision is better than making a wrong decision in the eyes of many, but sometimes indecision and inaction is very dangerous. The gripes that you hear coming out of those who are against Bush and this government aren't all problems that this administration created. You can't blame Bush for everything; well, I guess you can but you'd be wrong. Many of the problems the nation faces today have been lingering for 15-20 years or longer. I didn't hear anyone griping about them when Clinton was in office beacuse most people liked Clinton. You see, for a lot of people it is personal. Now if you are against the war in Iraq; then you can blame Bush. If you are upset about rising fuel costs, you can partially blame Bush (which I do, by the way). But if you are upset about illegal immigration or the lack of a future for social security, you can't rightfully blame Bush. These were problems that were there before he ever took office, but I often still hear people blaming him for them. As far as terrorism goes; Bush usn't inciting people anymore than they were already. Fundamentalist Islam hates America, period. Our way of life is against what their religion teaches and it (our way of life) continues to entice many young people out of Islam. 9/11 happened before the war on terror or the war in Iraq (although it seems many forget this fact). They came on our soil and blew up our buidlings. Swift action had to be taken to send a message to terrorists who wold hate America even if Mickey Mouse was president. I don't agree with this administration on everything; in fact, I disagree with it a lot. However, I don't let my personal feelings take me on wild flights of fancy like the governement is completely evil or the government is trying to kill me. It is in those statements that logic is absent. Bobby Clark From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] You were saying? Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:18:11 -0600 On 4/19/06, Bobby Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, the US missed the opportunity to have someone in office that couldn't make a decision if the life and health of the nation depended on it. I would feel really safe if the democrats had control of the White House... Well, maybe the democrats couldn't make a decision to save their lives, but that's slightly better than making the wrong decision, which is what the current administration seems to be doing all of the time. I for one would prefer an ineffectual government to a downright evil government that's trying to kill me and the rest of the world. Even forgetting all of the domestic attacks on our environment, climate, health care, etc..., the war on terror is doing a better job of creating more terrorists who hate us than ridding the world of terror (admittedly sort of a hard thing for the US to do in earnest, since we've sponsored so much of it through the years...) On the other hand, there is something to be said for the Bush administration's effect on organizing everyone. If Gore or Kerry had won, would we have the massive outrage against the US government that we have now? Probably not. It would have been not that bad, but not that bad is not a goal to strive for. I've heard this argument here a few times, and although I don't entirely agree (it seems a little like saying Hurricaine Katrina and all the deaths it caused was a good thing because it will raise awareness of global warming), there is a point there. From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] You were saying? Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:47:29 -0700 Hakan Falk wrote: US missed an opportunity in the last election, but Bush cannot stay after his period, if he does not also try to pull AH's last trick. I doubt that this can be done in US, nothing is really left other than the hope that next election will be more kind to the world. Are you kidding? We could have Jeb, then Neil, then Marvin, and after them, Jenna and Barbara. We could have a Bush family dynasty for better than 50 years over here! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca
[Biofuel] CHEERS study
I recently saw reference to this study in an email and a reference link to a story on an organic consumers website. For one thing the study has been cancelled. Secondly, the EPA was not going to ask parents to spray the pesticides in their homes; it was going to monitor small children that were already exposed to the pesticide by virtue of where they lived. I believe we live in a day and age where the government can be trusted less and less. However, let's try and get the truth before we go spreading it around. We must be vigilant for the truth so that when a real problem comes up, people will listen. Peace, Bobby Clark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] lye supply
Include me in the interested group. Bobby Clark From: Evergreen Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] lye supply Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:53:27 -0400 Hi all, I cleared this with Keith, so please be advised it is NOT an ad. Our cooperative here just made arrangements for continuing, large scale NaOH delivery from a large chemical supply company. As an effort to share this with the community, we're prepared to offer it to homebrewers for $2 a pound plus shipping (and shipping is apparently about $6 most of the time). You might be able to find it cheaper locally, and if so I applaud you and please disregard this message. Shipping is the real killer. If you're interested, toss me an email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll go from there. I'm not sure yet whether it's flake or pellet, but I'll assume that it's flake since it's low-cost and bulk. If enough people are interested, we'll put up a website or something similar, maybe run it through ebay or something for security. ~Thanks!~ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Copper tubing and methanol
Kurt, I've read that copper causes biodiesel to oxidize so the copper tubing is probably out. The reason I looked this up is because i have considered using a 50 gallon water heater as my processor, but the cheaper models have copper heating elements. The higher end ones have stainless steel heating elements, but they cost nearly twice as much on the preliminary research I have done. Oh, by the way I found a methanol supplier in Anderson that sells methanol in gallon quantities for $3.50. If you are interested let me know and I'll give you the phone number. Good luck! Bobby ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] White LYE
I work with chemicals in the lab and the NaOH (lye) that we use is in larger pellets. Those pellets are not quite white (they are somewhat clear/transluscent), however, lye from the soap companies is usually in smaller pellets/flakes and should defintiely appear white. I got my last batch from the soap company and according to the MSDS is is 99% pure and it appears white. I hope this helps, Bobby Clark From: michael skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] White LYE Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 02:34:54 + I'm a chemist and have used pure NaOH and it is white. Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] White LYE Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:23:01 -0500 I read somewhere that pure lye is not white but sort of opaque and the white lye is not pure and you need to use more. About 25% more. Does anyone have any information on this? I buy lye from a soap making shop and there is no marking on the container. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Why aren't there more manufacturers?
Why are there not a lot of people manufacturing biodiesel? Is it because that petro diesel is cheaper? It seems that I have seen estimates of between $2-$3 per gallon if you make it from virgin oil. If it burns cleaner (which it does) then why aren't manufacturers taking advantage of this opportunity? Bobby Clark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Test Batch Help
Looks to me like all you need to do is wash and you'll have good biodiesel Bobby From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Test Batch Help Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:09:01 Could somebody give me a clue as to what I am doing wrong? All my batches except one have turned out pale in color. I am using new oil in 1 liter batches. My measurements are accurate. Taking a big breath now... Here is a picture of my samples. http://evocm.com/ethanol/pvc_pics/DSC03856.JPG Most have turned out looking like the jar on the right. I thought by looking at them one of you could give me a hint. In the meantime I'll keep plugging away. Any help is appreciated. Ben ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] And now I start.
Kurt, I started out last weekend just making a one liter batch in a cheap blender. Just put in 3.5g of lye and 200ml of methanol, blend about 2 or 3 minutes (all it takes to dissolve that little bit). Heat your oil a little and it doesn't take much because the blender agitates it so well (I am assuming it is unused oil) and dump in a liter of the oil and blend for 15-20 minutes. The yield won't be great because it is not a closed system and I don't even have to tell you about the humidity around here, but you are able to observe how the chemicals react and separation becomes evident pretty soon after mixing. I let the mixture sit in the blender over night and then decanted the biodiesel into a clear plastic bottle. I filled the bottle the rest of the way with water, shook it for about 3 minutes and let it settle out overnight. The next day I decanted again and repeated the process. My yield was only about 1/2 a liter but I am sure of why my yield was so low just by doing the process. Happy blending and best of luck. Hopefully we could meet up one day since I am assuming we live fairly close to each other (I work in Clemson, you live in the Anderson area?) Bobby Clark From: Kurt Nolte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] And now I start. Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:29:47 -0400 Alright, finally found a small-volume supply of Methanol around here, so I have enough sitting right beside me for my first couple liter trial batches. PEAK Gas line antifreeze and fuel dryer. I checked the label, and it contains a nice big warning Danger: Poison! Contains Methyl Alcohol, CAS 67-56-1 Armed with some fresh peanut oil (We use it for our fryer when we do turkeys at Thanksgiving, so we have a big five gallon bucket of it.), and I'm heading out in just a while to get a measuring glass and some other things. I'll probably work up one of the test batch processors, and use the fryer pot as a water bath for the temperature control; it's big enough, and the HDPE container I scrounged fits tightly into it. Should have some results tonight, I hope! Now bravely do I sally forth to a make my first charge against the dreaded beast! Onward! -K ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Still looking
In upstate South Carolina near Clemson, still looking for a methanol supplier for aroun $5/gallon or less. Anyone know of one? Thanks, Bobby Clark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] SUCCESS!!
OK, so my first test batch was a success! I am now thinking of scaling up, but I need to find a cheaper supply of methanol. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bobby Clark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Sodium methoxide solution MSDS
Does anyone have a printable MSDS for Sodium methoxide solution in methanol? I am having my first go at biodiesel this weekend and want to be as safe as possible. Thanks, Bobby ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Water yield from Sodium methoxode mixing.
Upon looking at the reaction of NaOH and methanol I realized that one equivalent of water is a yield of the reaction. Will this interfere with the tranesterification reaction? I thought that I read water wil cause saponification. Thanks, Bobby Clark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Caustic Soda supply source?
No, the company that manufactures Red Devil has discontinued it. Anything you are getting at the store is surplus and will in time run out. Bobby From: Jason and Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Caustic Soda supply source? Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 19:30:08 -0700 Hi all, I have a small disagreement with this statement, ... APPARENTLY Red Devil lye has been discontinued. I can buy it at the local hardware stores in my area as of yet, it is still in the plumbing and pipe maintenance area, and it is about 5.00USD per pound. if it has been discontinued, I believe it is only within your local distributor. if you wish to pay for shipping and the initial cost, I would gladly send you a few jars. thx, jason ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Biodiesel in SC
Hello, Is there anyone out there that makes biodiesel in upstate SC or northeast Georgia? I am just starting to become interested in making biodiesel and I would really like to see the process first hand if possible. If there is no one, then wish me luck in becoming one of the firsts in my region to do this! I will have many questions, so I hope there are plenty out there that are willing to help. Thanks, Bobby Clark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel in SC
Really, Five people that haven't tried it. When I get started, I'll be happy to help you, but if you know anyone who is already making it, I would like to know. Thanks, Bobby Clark From: Jerry Eyers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel in SC Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 11:09:13 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time) Lot's of us lurking, but haven't tried it yet... :-) I know of at least five here in Greenville, SC. Jerry ---Original Message--- From: Bobby Clark Date: 09/15/05 10:29:58 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel in SC Hello, Is there anyone out there that makes biodiesel in upstate SC or northeast Georgia? I am just starting to become interested in making biodiesel and I would really like to see the process first hand if possible. If there is no one, then wish me luck in becoming one of the firsts in my region to do this! I will have many questions, so I hope there are plenty out there that are willing to help. Thanks, Bobby Clark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.25/102 - Release Date: 9/14/2005 . ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] washing method
You could make the outlet pipe some type of static mixer or a mix tube. We use these at work to blend liquids that are pumped through them when no other means of mixing is possible. Bobby From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] washing method Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:28:53 +0900 Hello John would it be possible to add water to the outlet pipe of biodiesel reactor while transferring it to the wash tank and then just letting it settle. something like the same way coke syrup and soda water is mixed in a restaurant or MC Donall's. Could be worth a try, though I don't know anything about McDonald's methods of mixing their deadly liquids. I've no idea how well it might mix, and it'll only do your first wash, it'll still need another two washes or more which you can't do that way, so it might not be worth the effort. If you do try it, please let us know the results. Best wishes Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
