Let me clarify something since the onslaught of name
tags began in this thread: Money and Power corrupt;
be it in the hands of the majority or corporatists
or political demegods who sway the majority.
I eschew what has in this discussion been referred to
as right wing ... they are idiots.
--- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bruce Barton wrote:
Funny how Plato and Aristole agreed with my
observations of democracy.
Did they indeed. And how much do you know of the
Greek conception of
democracy?
Quite a bit as a matter of fact, having read most of
their major
To answer a previous request for supporting
background:
www.lavoisier.com.au/papers/articles/EvansEnron.html
The Enron/Environmental connection
www.bear-left.com/original/2002/0210layfamily.html
More on the Lay family giving habits
www.guidestar.org
The above is an excellent source for who
Hakan,
I believe we can reason together, this I like. We may
not agree, but we can share our respective definitions
of 'democracy.'
For a point of reference, the definition I use for
'economics' is the allocation of scarce resources that
have alternative uses by a society or community or
.
Todd Swearingen
- Original Message -
From: Bruce Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: We Had a Democracy
Once, But You Crushed It
Unfortunately Churchill was raised in a Monarchy
/feingoldenron.html
I'll post the next story in a seperate listing. All
of the above referenced links work just fine as I have
opened them prior to including them in this post.
Bruce
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--- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bruce Barton wrote
Funny how Plato and Aristole agreed with my
observations of democracy. Ben Frankin once remarked;
... a Republic madam, if you can hold onto it.
Once normal folks discover that they can vote
themselves all sorts of benefits they forget common
sense as well as the common good.
My parents lived
Unfortunately Churchill was raised in a Monarchy with
a Parlamentary form of representation. His
environment was not that of a limited Constitutional
Republic.
And I stress here that the US has long departed from
that form of government (about 1914 approximately).
Today we are something akin
Democracy passes in to despotism.
Plato; The Republic, VIII, 562-A
The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal
things equal. Aristotle
It is the besetting vice of democracies to substitute
public opinion for law. This is the usual form in
which the masses of men exhibit their
Keith,
This is just a little mixing of politics with the
topic of strange bed-fellows; (quotes are from the
Washington Times 7/7/03 p6).
(speaking on Sen. Kerry's attacks on Enron) All the
more intriguing, given Enron's founder, Kenneth Lay,
has been longtime trustee of the environmental-minded
Heinz
While this is interesting, I am somewhat confused as
to what are Keith's comments, and what is the text of
Kert Davies of Greenpeace?
My general dis-trust of the Green political types
stems from their everything is bad point of view.
While they put down alternatives, they usually (not
always)
Keith,
I'm not taking this off-line! This stuff is too
interesting!
While my background is in electric generation and
economic development, I did time with P.G.E. back in
the 80's on alternative energy -
I'm a business guy who grew up in the Pacific Islands.
So, this topic is of great
Michael et al,
Thank you for all the good information you have
provided to my request. I'm still learning how this
yahoo system works (replies to all; replies to group
or what).
I grew up in Samoa and periodically return to the
various islands I know down that way. It bugs me
greatly to note
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