Re: [Biofuel] cost of B100 versus Petro in the Midwest USA
I would like to know the company that is selling for that price I just thought I had found a good deal @ $2.36 a gal. here in Dallas, Tx. And to get that price it has to be by the drum. - Original Message - From: Brian Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] cost of B100 versus Petro in the Midwest USA I want some. Even at twice that price Brian Rodgers On 10/12/05, logan vilas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if it's just a really good source or what, but I was Quoted $1.10 per gallon for methanol. If I bring my own container. If I have to buy in 55 gallon drums then it is 1.57 per gallon. That was quoted 9/14/05 in Thibideaux, Louisiana. Logan Vilas - Original Message - From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] cost of B100 versus Petro in the Midwest USA You forgot to add the road tax and a markup for profit to the biodiesel... Anyone who is selling biodiesel has those costs too. On 10/9/05, Jason and Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sat here and figured up the ballpark cost of parts for BD in a 390 gallon batch-( i started my numbers with a full 55 gal. drum of methanol) for 2 barrels of methanol (have to have excess) ~550$ for 390 gal. oil. .Haul-off for 40 lbs lye(VERY rough estimate)~140$ for one cannister of bottle gas (heat source)..~25$ Total C.O.P... .~715$ Results (Approximate) ~340 Gallons of ester ~47 Gallons reclaimed methanol ~43 gallons glycerine Market Value of 340 Gal. of diesel @ 2.60$/Gal...~884$ Your Savings. ...~169$ not to mention if you use the glycerine as a heat source through any of the available ways (digester gas, directly burning it, etc.) the heating costs will fall off entirely, and methanol will become cheaper the more you reclaim the excess, and we could always go to ethanol and add that to the equation, which has it's own COP. there are always options. Now, having read this, can you still tell me BD is more expensive than Petro? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] SUCCESS!!
I am purchasing from a company here in Dallas called Univar it runs about $2.36 a gallon the only catch is they only sell in drums, 55 gal minimum. - Original Message - From: Bobby Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 8:56 AM Subject: [Biofuel] SUCCESS!! OK, so my first test batch was a success! I am now thinking of scaling up, but I need to find a cheaper supply of methanol. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bobby Clark ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol
I have built this still for producing spirits but it can be use to distill about anything, I have not tryed yet but should work well for methonal recovery. http://www.moonshine-still.com - Original Message - From: Bob To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 3:11 AM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol Where can I buy a still that can produce fuel grade ethanol (190 proof)? I have read that the charles 803 is a poor still and I have no access to anyone knowledgable enough to build a good enough still without accurate plans. I could possibly pay someone to build one if I knew exactly what to tell them to build. I have done google and JTF and searched this list but have come up with no one that operates asuccessful fuelstill. Thanks Bob Do you Yahoo!?The New Yahoo! Movies: Check out the Latest Trailers, Premiere Photos and full Actor Database. ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Processor
Hello I am new to the bio diesel experience, through this website and others I have built a bubblewasher and a drying tank. I scavange a water heater that I was going to use for the processor but have since heard there maybe some problems with this type. Does anyone have any suggestions on the processor and the pump. Would like to work with 40-50 gallon batches to start and then later move to the 2 stage process. Any help would be greatly appreciated. John CREATIVE SIGNWORKS1168 Byron Rd.Kaufman, Tx 75142John Mindy Short972-962-7464www.creative-sign-works.com[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Processor
Yes I have made several small patches with nothing but success so far (just pure dumb luck and a lot of good info) I am currently running it my Kubota lawn tractor and its performing very well. Starts easier runs quieter and has a significant power increase but smells like im cooking fries when mowing. Im convienced the water heater is the wrong proccessor for my project, thinkibg of making a cone bottom from a drum and just insulating and coating it for corrosion. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Processor Hello John, welcome Hello I am new to the bio diesel experience, through this website and others I have built a bubble washer and a drying tank. I think you should have a good look at this: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bubblewash.html Washing: Journey to Forever I scavange a water heater that I was going to use for the processor but have since heard there maybe some problems with this type. Does anyone have any suggestions on the processor and the pump. There's a lot of info in the archives about what's wrong with some of those. The 1 clear water pump usually recommended isn't powerful enough for a 50-gallon processor, for one thing, unless you're going to process it for a long time. Best get a stronger pump. Look at some of the plumbing schemes in the processor section at the Journey to Forever website: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors This is still the best water heater processor, IMHO, the original: The touchless processor http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html#touchfree Would like to work with 40-50 gallon batches to start and then later move to the 2 stage process. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Have you made any small-scale 1 or 2-litre test batches yet? That's the place to start, with the process, not with the processor. Start here: Where do I start? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Best wishes Keith John CREATIVE SIGNWORKS 1168 Byron Rd. Kaufman, Tx 75142 John Mindy Short 972-962-7464 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
