Re: [Biofuel] Happy Solstice all, Taking the list down.

2016-12-23 Thread Kirk McLoren
Some things just make me sad. All the best to you and yours.Kirk  “The further 
a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.” 
 George Orwell

 

On Friday, December 23, 2016 8:41 AM, Fred  wrote:
 

 I will certainly miss this list.

Thank you Chip, Darryl and everyone else for keeping it going for as long
as you did.

Fred

On Dec 22, 2016 11:06 PM, "Michele Stephenson" 
wrote:

> Happy Solstice!
>
> Thank you Chipper for all your efforts these past few years. I have
> learned so much from being a part of this crowd.
>
> May 2017 be a wonderful year for everyone.
>
> Michele
>
> > On Dec 22, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Chip Mefford  wrote:
> >
> > It has been many years now since Keith passed.
> >
> > As things stand, Darryl is about the only traffic posted here
> > and even that is echoing (admittedly interesting) stuff
> > posted elsewhere.
> >
> > If anyone is interested, I can and am willing to provide the subscriber's
> > list if anyone wishes to continue this work.
> >
> > As things stand, this mailing list is the only mailing list left on
> > my mailman server that gets any traffic at all, and the spam to post
> > ratio is about 70:1 (intercepted).
> >
> > As of 20170101, the list will shut down.
> >
> > The archives will of course remain in place until such a time as
> > those responsible for them decide to take some other action.
> >
> > Please take these few days to make your farewells.
> >
> > So long
> > and thanks for everything.
> >
> > your list-admin
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Re: [Biofuel] David Suzuki's Fukushima Warning Is Dire And Scary

2014-01-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
I suspect the cloud from the pool at number 4 reactor would go around the Earth 
before it would be safe to go out in the rain. Basically it would be the winds 
aloft and the half life of iodine.
 There is enough plutonium in the MOX in the pool at number 4 to build AT LEAST 
10,000 devices the size we dropped on Nagasaki. Number 4 was part of the 
megatons to megawatts program.




On Saturday, January 11, 2014 2:10 PM, Chris Burck chris.bu...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/04/david-suzuki-fukushima-warning_n_4213061.html

David Suzuki has issued a scary warning about Japan's Fukushima nuclear
plant, saying that if it falls in a future earthquake, it's bye bye Japan
and the entire west coast of North America should be evacuated.

The Nature of Things host made the comments in a talk posted to YouTube
after he joined Dr. David Schindler for Letting in the Light, a symposium
on water ecology held at the University of Alberta on Oct. 30 and 31.

An excerpt of the talk shows Suzuki outlining a frightening scenario that
would result from the destruction of the nuclear plant.

Fukushima is the most terrifying situation I can imagine, he said.

Three out of the four plants were destroyed in the earthquake and in the
tsunami. The fourth one has been so badly damaged that the fear is, if
there's another earthquake of a seven or above that, that building will go
and then all hell breaks loose.

And the probability of a seven or above earthquake in the next three years
is over 95 per cent.

Suzuki said that an international team of experts needs to go into the
Fukushima plant and help fix the problem, but said the Japanese government
has too much pride to admit that.

I have seen a paper which says that if in fact the fourth plant goes under
in an earthquake and those rods are exposed, it's bye bye Japan and
everybody on the west coast of North America should evacuate, he said.

If that isn't terrifying, I don't know what is.

Suzuki's warning came as radiation from the Fukushima plant has been
detected in northern Alaska and along the west coast , CBC News reported.

Radiation in Alaskan waters could reach Cold War levels, said Douglas
Dasher, a researcher at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, although John
Kelley, a professor emeritus at the same university, doesn't seem as
certain that it will reach dangerous levels for humans.

The data they will need is not only past data but current data, and if no
one is sampling anything then we won't really know it, will we, he told
the network.
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Re: [Biofuel] Why TEPCO is Risking the Removal of Fukushima Fuel Rods. The Dangers of Uncontrolled Global Nuclear Radiation

2013-11-24 Thread Kirk McLoren
thats why I regard their starting work on the pool without saturating it first 
with boron as Russian roulette.
 
Kirk



On Sunday, November 24, 2013 10:15 AM, Keith Addison 
ke...@journeytoforever.org wrote:
 
http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-tepco-is-risking-the-removal-of-fukushima-fuel-rods-the-dangers-of-uncontrolled-global-nuclear-radiation/5359188

Why TEPCO is Risking the Removal of Fukushima Fuel Rods. The Dangers 
of Uncontrolled Global Nuclear Radiation

By Yoichi Shimatsu

Global Research, November 24, 2013

After repeated delays since the summer of 2011, the Tokyo Electric 
Power Company has launched a high-risk operation to empty the 
spent-fuel pool atop Reactor 4 at the Dai-ichi (No.1) Fukushima 
Nuclear Power Plant.

The urgency attached to this particular site, as compared with 
reactors damaged in meltdowns, arises from several factors:

- over 400 tons of nuclear material in the pool could reignite

- the fire-damaged tank is tilting badly and may topple over sooner than later

- collapse of the structure could trigger a chain reaction and 
nuclear blast, and

- consequent radioactive releases would heavily contaminate much of the world.

The potential for disaster at the Unit 4 SFP is probably of a higher 
magnitude than suspected due to the presence of fresh fuel rods, 
which were delivered during the technical upgrade of Reactor 4 under 
completion at the time of the March 11, 2011 earthquake and tsunami. 
The details of that reactor overhaul by GE and Hitachi have yet to be 
disclosed by TEPCO and the Economy Ministry and continue to be 
treated as a national-security matter. Here, the few clues from 
whistleblowers will be pieced together to decipher the nature of the 
clandestine activity at Fukushima No.1.

Accidents happen

The delicate rod-removal procedure requires the lowering of a steel 
cylinder, called a transfer cask, into a corner of the pool and then 
using the crane to lift the 300-kilogram fuel assemblies 
(4.5-meter-tall bundle of fuel rods held inside a metal cage) one at 
a time from the vertical array of rods up and then down into the 
cask. The container can hold 22 assemblies for transfer to a 
temporary cooling unit built next to Reactor 4 before these are moved 
to a storage building.(1)

Lifting the 1,533 fuel bundles out of the pool is fraught with 
danger. If an assembly breaks away and falls, the impact could 
shatter other rods below, triggering an uncontrolled nuclear 
reaction. Compounding the threat, many rods are not intact but were 
fragmented into loose shards by a collapsing crane. In addition, many 
of the rods likely lost their protective cladding during the two 
fires that engulfed the spent-fuel pool on March 14 and 15, 2011.

The urgency of this transfer operation is prompted by the warping of 
the supporting steel frame by the twin fires that followed the March 
11 quake. The pool is also tilting. If the unbalanced structure 
topples, the collapse would trigger nuclear reactions. A cascade of 
neutrons could then ignite the nearby common fuel pool for Reactors 1 
through 6. The common pool contains 6,735 used assemblies.(2)

The Reactor 4 spent fuel pool contains an estimated 400 tons of 
uranium and plutonium oxide, compared with just 6.2 kilograms of 
plutonium inside Fat Man, the hydrogen bomb that obliterated Nagasaki 
in 1945.  (While predictions are bandied about by experts and 
bloggers, there exists no reliable method for calculating the 
potential sum or flow rate of radiation releases, measured in 
becquerel or sievert units, after an accident. The tonnage involved, 
however, indicates only that a large-scale event is likely and a 
cataclysm cannot be ruled out.)

More than 1,700 tons of nuclear materials are reported to be on site 
inside Fukushima No.1 plant. (My investigative visits into the 
exclusion zone indicate the existence of undocumented and illegal 
large-scale storage sites in the Fukushima nuclear complex of 
undetermined tonnage.)  By comparison Chernobyl 's reactors contained 
180 tons of fuel not all of which melted down.

Despite the looming threat to residents in Fukushima, surrounding 
provinces and the capital Tokyo, the office of Prime Minister Shinzo 
Abe along with TEPCO hews to the tradition of risk denial and 
blackout of vital information. No contingency plan has been issued to 
Fukushima residents or to the municipalities of the Tohoku and Kanto 
region in event of a nuclear disaster during the SFP clearance 
effort. A concurrent drive to impose a draconian law against 
whistleblowers on grounds of national security is reinforcing the 
cover-up of data and testimony related to nuclear power plants, 
including the Fukushima complex.

Mystery of MOX super-fuel

A Mainichi Shimbun editorial mentions in passing that the Reactor 4 
pool contains 202 fresh fuel assemblies.(3) The presence of new fuel 
rods was confirmed in the TEPCO press release, which described the 
first assembly lifted into the transfer 

Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments

2013-05-19 Thread Kirk McLoren


 Pulling wings off flies is part of their personna

I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her 
seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Genesis 3:15

There is a difference on such a basic level between you and these creatures 
that one might say you are of two different seeds. Satan appears to be winning. 
I take comfort in knowing Satan thought he had it all under control 2000 years 
ago. Let us separate ourselves from these creatures of darkness. As was once 
said- Tune in and drop out.







 From: D Mindock oceanp...@charter.net
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments
 

   *Our leaders are disgusting; total idiots. They have no respect
   anyone outside their wealthy circle of cronies. They don't seem to
   get it that _all_ life
   on the planet is being threatened, including theirs. You can only
   live in those underground bunkers for so long before you go
   completely bonkers or
   the food runs out. Cannibalism could add a year at most.
   *

 
 the note should shut down the industry
 If we were sane we would. Many psychopathic personalities make big money off 
 nukes so I hold little hope for us doing the right thing.
 I personally know of a situation swept under the rug. First responder 
 records were purged. Personnel were briefed It never happened if you want 
 to draw your pension.
 Whistle blowing is hazardous to your health.
 
 Kirk
 
 
 
 
 
 
   From: Francene McClintock painc...@mail.com
 To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:21 PM
 Subject: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments
  
 Re: High Level Waste Dump
 http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedback 
 http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedbacklang=en
 and this: http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdf 
 http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdflang=en
 Ray LaHood may have retired to help with the dump. The Koch Brothers are 
 trying to buy the Tribunes, Chicago, LA and Richmond VA. All correspond to 
 the high level dump sites. Comments on the senate bill due by May 24 2013.
 The full bill is here:
 http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454
  
 http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454lang=en
 Comments due by May 24, 2013
  From reading it, it sounds like they might be making it into an 
international dump??? (See p. 56 line 16-17 “Solicit expressions of interest.”)
 Also commingling of commercial and military waste. (p.36 sec. 8)
 p.49 line 18 “without regard to US code”. Why this exception? Cheap labor? No 
 healthcare for workers?
 Sec 402 p. 41 line 23-25 elimination of legislative veto.
 The storage site will possibly become the permanent site so they need to 
 select a geologically sound (impossible) area but they aren’t even going to 
 try according to this bill.
 Any civil appeal has to be within 6 months at the judicial circuit court 
 where you live. Workers may not find out or recover from an injury in 6 
 months - certainly not rad waste poisoning.
 Feds say target isolation for high level waste is 10,000 years. 1/2-life 
 Technetium-99 is 213,000 years; Iodine-129 1/2 life is 15.9 million years.
 Nuclear Waste Oversight Board: “Recommends to Administrator, President, 
 Congress ANY ACTIONS that may be needed to ensure the implementation of this 
 Act.”
 Does that mean kill the protestors? Drone strikes...death to the public...
 
 
 It is a fact that all the plants at Fukushima (and here in the US) are 
 connected to each other by electrical wires running through pipes. According 
 to Arnie Gunderson (see http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397 
 http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397lang=en  ‘Arnie Gunderson Another 
 Update On The Unfolding Effects Of The Fukushima Disaster’ Start listening at 
 19:50), at Fukushima, this is where all the radiation is leaking out and 
 contaminating the whole site. It seems that the rubber caulk was not designed 
 to withstand radiation, heat or the salt water. I asked Arnie at the C.A.N. 
 Rally for a Nuclear-free Future in Washington DC Sept 20-22 if the plants in 
 the US were also designed this way. He said yes, all of them. That should 
 shut down the industry. Design failures...design flaws...
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Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments

2013-05-19 Thread Kirk McLoren


 Sorry, thought I was replying to Dean.

Kirk







 From: Kirk McLoren kirkmclo...@yahoo.com
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments
 



 Pulling wings off flies is part of their personna

I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her 
seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Genesis 3:15

There is a difference on such a basic level between you and these creatures 
that one might say you are of two different seeds. Satan appears to be winning. 
I take comfort in knowing Satan thought he had it all under control 2000 years 
ago. Let us separate ourselves from these creatures of darkness. As was once 
said- Tune in and drop out.







From: D Mindock oceanp...@charter.net
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments


   *Our leaders are disgusting; total idiots. They have no respect
   anyone outside their wealthy circle of cronies. They don't seem to
   get it that _all_ life
   on the planet is being threatened, including theirs. You can only
   live in those underground bunkers for so long before you go
   completely bonkers or
   the food runs out. Cannibalism could add a year at most.
   *

 
 the note should shut down the industry
 If we were sane we would. Many psychopathic personalities make big money off 
 nukes so I hold little hope for us doing the right thing.
 I personally know of a situation swept under the rug. First responder 
 records were purged. Personnel were briefed It never happened if you want 
 to draw your pension.
 Whistle blowing is hazardous to your health.
 
 Kirk
 
 
 
 
 
 
   From: Francene McClintock painc...@mail.com
 To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:21 PM
 Subject: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments
  
 Re: High Level Waste Dump
 http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedback 
 http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedbacklang=en
 and this: http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdf 
 http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdflang=en
 Ray LaHood may have retired to help with the dump. The Koch Brothers are 
 trying to buy the Tribunes, Chicago, LA and Richmond VA. All correspond to 
 the high level dump sites. Comments on the senate bill due by May 24 2013.
 The full bill is here:
 http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454
  
 http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454lang=en
 Comments due by May 24, 2013
  From reading it, it sounds like they might be making it into an 
international dump??? (See p. 56 line 16-17 “Solicit expressions of interest.”)
 Also commingling of commercial and military waste. (p.36 sec. 8)
 p.49 line 18 “without regard to US code”. Why this exception? Cheap labor? No 
 healthcare for workers?
 Sec 402 p. 41 line 23-25 elimination of legislative veto.
 The storage site will possibly become the permanent site so they need to 
 select a geologically sound (impossible) area but they aren’t even going to 
 try according to this bill.
 Any civil appeal has to be within 6 months at the judicial circuit court 
 where you live. Workers may not find out or recover from an injury in 6 
 months - certainly not rad waste poisoning.
 Feds say target isolation for high level waste is 10,000 years. 1/2-life 
 Technetium-99 is 213,000 years; Iodine-129 1/2 life is 15.9 million years.
 Nuclear Waste Oversight Board: “Recommends to Administrator, President, 
 Congress ANY ACTIONS that may be needed to ensure the implementation of this 
 Act.”
 Does that mean kill the protestors? Drone strikes...death to the public...
 
 
 It is a fact that all the plants at Fukushima (and here in the US) are 
 connected to each other by electrical wires running through pipes. According 
 to Arnie Gunderson (see http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397 
 http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397lang=en  ‘Arnie Gunderson Another 
 Update On The Unfolding Effects Of The Fukushima Disaster’ Start listening at 
 19:50), at Fukushima, this is where all the radiation is leaking out and 
 contaminating the whole site. It seems that the rubber caulk was not designed 
 to withstand radiation, heat or the salt water. I asked Arnie at the C.A.N. 
 Rally for a Nuclear-free Future in Washington DC Sept 20-22 if the plants in 
 the US were also designed

Re: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments

2013-05-18 Thread Kirk McLoren


the note should shut down the industry
If we were sane we would. Many psychopathic personalities make big money off 
nukes so I hold little hope for us doing the right thing.
I personally know of a situation swept under the rug. First responder records 
were purged. Personnel were briefed It never happened if you want to draw 
your pension.
Whistle blowing is hazardous to your health.

Kirk






 From: Francene McClintock painc...@mail.com
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:21 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] high level nuclear waste dump sites, map and comments
 

Re: High Level Waste Dump
http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedback 
http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/nuclear-waste-bill-feedbacklang=en
 
and this: http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdf 
http://info.ornl.gov/sites/publications/files/Pub37008.pdflang=en 
Ray LaHood may have retired to help with the dump. The Koch Brothers are trying 
to buy the Tribunes, Chicago, LA and Richmond VA. All correspond to the high 
level dump sites. Comments on the senate bill due by May 24 2013. 
The full bill is here:
http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454
 
http://www.energy.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=4f51d98f-c07a-4bdd-8460-a19e86b2b454lang=en
 
Comments due by May 24, 2013
From reading it, it sounds like they might be making it into an international 
dump??? (See p. 56 line 16-17 “Solicit expressions of interest.”)
Also commingling of commercial and military waste. (p.36 sec. 8)
p.49 line 18 “without regard to US code”. Why this exception? Cheap labor? No 
healthcare for workers?
Sec 402 p. 41 line 23-25 elimination of legislative veto.
The storage site will possibly become the permanent site so they need to select 
a geologically sound (impossible) area but they aren’t even going to try 
according to this bill.
Any civil appeal has to be within 6 months at the judicial circuit court where 
you live. Workers may not find out or recover from an injury in 6 months - 
certainly not rad waste poisoning.
Feds say target isolation for high level waste is 10,000 years. 1/2-life 
Technetium-99 is 213,000 years; Iodine-129 1/2 life is 15.9 million years.
Nuclear Waste Oversight Board: “Recommends to Administrator, President, 
Congress ANY ACTIONS that may be needed to ensure the implementation of this 
Act.”
Does that mean kill the protestors? Drone strikes...death to the public... 


It is a fact that all the plants at Fukushima (and here in the US) are 
connected to each other by electrical wires running through pipes. According to 
Arnie Gunderson (see http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397 
http://www.ifyoulovethisplanet.org/?p=6397lang=en  ‘Arnie Gunderson Another 
Update On The Unfolding Effects Of The Fukushima Disaster’ Start listening at 
19:50), at Fukushima, this is where all the radiation is leaking out and 
contaminating the whole site. It seems that the rubber caulk was not designed 
to withstand radiation, heat or the salt water. I asked Arnie at the C.A.N. 
Rally for a Nuclear-free Future in Washington DC Sept 20-22 if the plants in 
the US were also designed this way. He said yes, all of them. That should shut 
down the industry. Design failures...design flaws...
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Re: [Biofuel] remove from mailing list please

2013-03-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
read the archives
its all there extensive and detailed
 







 From: Stephen Rhodes captb...@gmail.com
To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 12:51 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] remove from mailing list please
 
When I signed up for this, I mistakenly thought there would be some info on 
sustainable bio-diesel info.  This is just a blog for people who want to be 
heard.  
Please remove my name from a this mailing lost.
Ty
SR
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Re: [Biofuel] Amazing Wikipedia comment on Biogas

2013-03-26 Thread Kirk McLoren


 
 CH4 is a feedstock in many chemical processes.






 From: Keith Addison ke...@journeytoforever.org
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:29 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Amazing Wikipedia comment on Biogas
 
Look what I just found.

Biogas

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Biogas typically refers to a gas produced by the breakdown of organic matter in 
the absence of oxygen. It is a renewable energy source, like solar and wind 
energy. Furthermore, biogas can be produced from regionally available raw 
materials and recycled waste and is environmentally friendly and CO2 neutral.

Biogas is utilised in the production of mustard gas for use as chemical weapons 
by the United States against Iraqi children.

Biogas is produced by the anaerobic digestion or fermentation of biodegradable 
materials such as manure, sewage, municipal waste, green waste, plant material, 
and crops.[1] Biogas comprises primarily methane (CH4) and carbon dioxide (CO2) 
and may have small amounts of hydrogen sulphide (H2S), moisture and siloxanes.

[Etc]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biogas

I took a screen shot in case it suddenly vanishes, or it turns out that someone 
put something weird in my coffee.

Bests

Keith
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Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list

2012-10-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
working here

 
To love God in the most practical way is to love our fellow beings.




 From: Dave Hajoglou dhajog...@gmail.com
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
 

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Chip Mefford c...@well.com wrote:

Okay list;

We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list.


Keith who? lol.
 
I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the
email except a small handfull being delivered promptly.



I will report that just after I got the notice I tried to respond and it 
bounced.  The reply I sent to your first obviously went through. 
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Re: [Biofuel] Solar, Wind other Alternatives

2012-08-06 Thread Kirk McLoren
Some of Edison's cells are in use a century later. Nickel iron battery for 
stationary use - superior to lead acid in transportation as well.
But the life!  Why are things built to be replaced so soon? Something wrong 
about leaving a set of batteries to your grand-kids?
-K
 
You learn from your mistakes...Today I hope not to learn_too_ much. 




 From: Dawie Coetzee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org 
sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Solar, Wind  other Alternatives
 
Something I'd like to see is artisanal/homemade/cobbled Edison-cell batteries: 
perfectly viable but quite bulky, which shouldn't be a problem in a non-mobile 
application.-D




 From: Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2012, 7:28
Subject: [Biofuel] Solar, Wind  other Alternatives
 

Hi Folks

I live in a small town 100km from Perth Western Australia
and I have put  ( on a very limited income ) up 1kw system
( subsidised by our Govt, my cost was 2500$ they contributed 8000$ )

I did this just over 2 years ago, and as the way the grid system works,
if the grid power goes out, so does the solar system so we are still no
better off .

So the Alternative Energy Bug Bit harder !

I decided to set up a stand alone system and have been slowly
getting together this ...

System to date and costs so far

4 x Trojan 6V golf cart Batteries 205 amp/hour each
( this system is 24 volt )

These Batteries are 8 months old 4 for $200 as
apposed to 175$ ex GST each new
in Aust.

( Secondary lighting bank for led lighting and miscellaneous uses
2 x 12v 89amp/HR marine/Truck/4wd batteries  )

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/lights-electrical/automotive-batteries/4wd-truck-marine.aspx?id=5072

( Am Still deciding if I will go 12v for lighting )

2 x Monocrystalline Solar Panel 180W (24V)
Paid $300.00 each . Normal price $669.00 EACH
http://www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=itemid=N0180

MPPT60-2, 15V to 95V,3600w output Regulator
Paid $300.00 Normally $649.00
http://www.gsl.com.au/products/solar_regulators.html#product3

4 x 6m lengths of 50 x 50 angle Iron for frame
to mount solar panels on roof.
with 10% Discount from Midalia Steel Welshpool
Paid $148.00 Including cutting to 1.6m lengths

(* I changed the design after buying the steel and
could have saved buying 1 length of angle ! *)

Calibre Battery Charger - 6/12/24V, 10 Amp, Smart
Paid $144.00 normally $219.00

http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Calibre-Battery-Charger-6-12-24V-10-Amp-Smart.aspx?pid=125650#Description

24V x 1000 Watt (3000W Surge) Pure Sinewave Inverter
paying $358.00 normally $699.00
http://www.altronics.com.au/index.asp?area=itemid=M8018

I am looking and considering a Grid tie setup as well.

I would like to find and purchase
1 x 24v or switchable 12/24v meter to
mount near the gear to visually monitor
the solar out put of panels

Also 1 x 24v one for the future Wind Turbine

and as the inverter doesn't have a output meter
(for present power being consumed )
one for that as well (24v input  240~255 output)

And Maybe 1 x 24v meter to monitor the condition
of batteries

Any suggestions on where to purchase these meters
at a good price would be gratefully accepted


I will when I can afford it purchase a 24v x 500w wind Turbine
and also considering a VAWT / generator as well

I am finding once you get into your own Power generation
it is somewhat like gold prospecting it gets in your blood
and you cant stop !

Though I still haven't made any BioDiesel,  I do at some time hope to
and I imagine my addiction will carry onto that as well.

This is a Brilliant channel on YouTube to check out

OBXSOLWIND's channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/obxsolwind?feature=results_main


Could we add a bit more into The Biofuel Group on the Alternative energy
AROUND the world ESP as different countries have different power
options  IE in Aust we are 240 volt.

We now live in a global community and America isn't the center
of the universe  anymore GRIN!

Thanks Keith
Love your Work

Tony Lush
Toodyay ( Pronounced 2J)
Western Australia

PS
*** I live on a disabled pension and decided
that if i want to make my dreams come true
I have to find a way to do it, and that is one
item at a time and be patient boy it feels
good to be getting close to completion! ***


You don't have to see the whole staircase,
just take the first step.

- Martin Luther King Jr. (1929-1968)


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[Biofuel] efficiency of 99 per cent or better at full load and much higher efficiencies in part-load conditions than mechanical gears can achieve.

2012-07-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.engineerlive.com/Design-Engineer/Power_Transmission/Magnets_offer_advantages_as_an_alternative_to_mechanical_gears/22078/ 


Magnets offer advantages as an alternative to mechanical gearsMagnetic 
components are the norm in electric motors and non-contact drive couplings, but 
new developments could see magnets taking the place of mechanical gears in 
power transmission systems. Paul Stevens reports on novel magnet-based power 
transmission components and the advantages they offer designers.
Transmissions, couplings and dampers, as well as electrical machines and 
actuators, are well catered for by existing technologies, yet these 
technologies all have their limitations and drawbacks. Gears, for example, 
require lubrication, generate noise and suffer from inherent friction that 
reduces their mechanical inefficiency.
Magnetism, which is used in everything from toys and door catches to electric 
motors and medical imaging systems, is the subject of ongoing research by 
commercial organisations and academic institutions. Improved field strengths 
and design techniques mean that smaller and lighter magnets can replace larger 
composite magnets or create new opportunities.
One of the academic institutions that has been leading the research is the 
University of Sheffield in the UK. Magnomatics was established as a spin-out 
company from Sheffield University in 2006 to commercialise groundbreaking 
research on magnetic transmission systems, high-torque electrical machines and 
electromechanical actuators and dampers. This work was being undertaken by Dr 
Kais Atallah and Professor David Howe in the Electrical Machines and Drives 
laboratories at the University. Today Magnomatics maintains strong links with 
the University, making use of the available technical expertise and research 
facilities. Members of Dr Atallah's original research group now form the core 
of Magnomatics' technical team.
Magnomatics' activities centre on - but are not restricted to - magnetic 
gearing, in which components transmit torque by non-contact magnetic coupling 
rather than meshed mechanical gear teeth. Depending on the embodiment, 
Magnomatics says that gear ratios from 1.01:1 to 1000:1 are possible.
Dr Atallah invented and demonstrated a high-torque magnetic gear in 2001. 
Compared with mechanical gears, his invention is claimed to offer advantages 
including reduced maintenance, improved reliability, no need for lubricants, 
higher efficiency, precise peak torque transmission, inherent overload 
protection, reduced drivetrain pulsations, tolerance of misalignment and low 
noise. In some applications, it is also beneficial that the input and output 
shafts are physically isolated.
Magnomatics' magnetic gears use permanent magnets to transmit torque between an 
input and output shaft. The company says that torque densities comparable with 
mechanical gears can be achieved with an efficiency of 99 per cent or better at 
full load and much higher efficiencies in part-load conditions than mechanical 
gears can achieve. Furthermore, for higher power ratings a magnetic gear can be 
smaller, lighter and cost less than a mechanical gear. Since there is no 
contact between the moving parts, there is no wear and no need for lubrication 
(Fig.1). Magnetic gears also protect against overloads by slipping harmlessly 
if an excessive torque is applied, and automatically and safely re-engaging 
when the excess torque is removed.
The low-ratio magnetic gear uses a series of steel pole-pieces to modulate the 
fields produced by two permanent magnet rotors with different numbers of 
magnetic poles. In this arrangement the magnet arrays rotate at different 
speeds, with the gear ratio determined by the ratio of magnets in each array. 
The transfer of motion between input and output shafts is achieved passively 
using powerful permanent magnets and an intermediate modulating element 
(Fig.2). A high degree of magnetic coupling between the rotors allows for 
torque densities to be realised that are comparable with mechanical gears. Gear 
ratios of 50:1 down to 1.01:1 with almost zero torque ripple are readily 
achievable. Interestingly, low-ratio magnetic gears can be realised in a 
conventional radial field or in an axial arrangement when a thin 'pancake' 
design is required (Fig.3). Magnomatics' low-ratio magnetic gear forms an 
integral component within the company's new type of permanent
 magnet machine, the pseudo direct drive (PDD), that offers a far higher torque 
density than conventional motor-gearbox combinations (see below).
Magnomatics high-ratio magnetic gears use a rotating diverging air gap to 
modulate the fields produced by the permanent magnet arrays on the input and 
output rotors. As with the low-ratio gears, a high degree of coupling between 
the rotors allows for a very high torque density to be achieved. The simple and 
robust structure of the high-ratio magnetic gear enables ratios of up to 1000:1 
to be 

Re: [Biofuel] The new aristocracy

2012-06-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
some interesting thoughts re words aristocrat and sinister

According to Barbara Kaye [EMAIL PROTECTED], the Greek
word for Left is aristera, which is the root of aristocrat.
http://stason.org/TULARC/society/left-handed-left-hander/30-Why-is-left-handedness-considered-something-sinister.html 



Read 
more:http://stason.org/TULARC/society/left-handed-left-hander/30-Why-is-left-handedness-considered-something-sinister.html#ixzz1z6ga8E9B 

 
I call them banksters.
Kirk

You learn from your mistakes...Today I hope not to learn_too_ much. 




 From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:40 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] The new aristocracy
 
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/jun2012/pers-j28.shtml

The new aristocracy

28 June 2012

As governments throughout the world close schools, lay off workers 
and slash support to the poor, old and sick, the financial oligarchy 
that rules the world increases its wealth and power.

The incomes of the top-earning bank CEOs grew 12 percent last year, 
according to an analysis of the 15 largest global banks conducted by 
pay research group Equilar. These executives received an average of 
$12.8 million apiece, even though the stock values, earnings, and 
profits of most of the banks shrank.

Jamie Dimon, the chairman and chief executive officer of JPMorgan 
Chase, once again topped the list, taking in $23.1 million, an 11 
percent increase over 2010. Under Dimon's watch, JPMorgan recently 
disclosed billions of dollars in speculative losses.

Governments across the globe have bailed out these banks to the tune 
of trillions of dollars. They have massively subsidized these giant, 
privately-owned financial institutions, and they stand ready to 
rescue them again if and when necessary.

The report on bankers' pay was released only days after Hawaii's 
governor announced that Oracle CEO Larry Ellison had bought Lanai, 
the sixth-largest Hawaiian island, for between $500 and $600 million. 
The island's 3,000 residents will be as dependent on Ellison's good 
will as were the vassals of the Middle Ages to their lord.

Ellison, the third-richest individual in the United States, is 
notorious both for his extravagance and his petty avarice. In 2008, 
he won a $3 million tax refund from the city of Woodside, California 
after a court ruled that his house, a reproduction of a Japanese 
emperor's estate that cost $200 million to build, was worth only $100 
million on the current market.

The court declared that nobody besides Ellison could afford to live 
in the house, which gave it limited market appeal, and on that 
basis lowered the Oracle executive's property taxes.

The taxes that Ellison and his fellow California billionaires avoid 
paying have contributed to the state's $15 billion budget deficit, 
which is now being tackled through cuts in vital social programs that 
keep millions from destitution.

California Governor Jerry Brown, a Democrat, and the 
Democratic-controlled state legislature reached an agreement last 
week on a minimum of $8 billion in spending cuts. State welfare 
benefits are to be slashed in half and $1 billion is to be cut from 
the state's Medicaid program, $402 million from state workers' wages, 
and $240 million from child care.

Ellison, whose net worth is $36.5 billion, could write a check to 
cover the amount of these cuts Š four times over. Then there are the 
other 99 billionaires in the state.

Another example of the use to which the super-rich are putting their 
vast fortunes has been captured in a soon-to-be-released documentary, 
The Queen of Versailles. The film recounts the efforts of the 
billionaire founder of Westgate Resorts (a time-share company) and 
his ex-model wife to build the largest house in the United States. At 
90,000 square feet, the Orlando, Florida mansion includes ten 
kitchens and a bowling alley.

The palatial Florida home is named Versailles in honor of the palace 
of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette. That the royal couple had their 
heads cut off in the French revolution seems lost on the builders of 
the new Versailles.

A charming detail that helps explain why the ill-fated royal couple 
was so thoroughly despised by the French people: the royal family 
dogs were never housebroken because a small army of servants were 
always on hand to clean up after them.

Aristocracy, from the Greek root, means rule by the best. However, 
the financial oligarchy, whose selfish interests determine the 
policies of the planet's governments, encompasses the most ignorant 
and depraved sections of modern society. Scum separates by floating 
upward, said Marx, writing about the speculators and fraudsters of 
his time.

The finance aristocracy, he added, in its mode of acquisition as 
well as in its pleasures, is nothing but the rebirth of the 
lumpenproletariat on the heights of bourgeois society.

The decades preceding the Wall Street crash of 2008 saw a 

[Biofuel] YASA on you tube - breakthrough in electric car

2012-06-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m_iIbX0gmAfeature=youtube_gdata 

 
Love is so short, forgetting is so long.
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[Biofuel] 30% of children tested had thyroid lumps — “Now that’s really early, that’s within the first year, that’s unheard of”

2012-03-16 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://enenews.com/radio-something-new-in-the-history-of-medicine-is-happening-at-fukushima-says-physician-30-of-children-tested-had-thyroid-lumps-now-thats-really-early-thats-within-the-first-year-th?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitter
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[Biofuel] briquette machine

2012-03-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.biogreentech.com/
make your own biomass products
 



Nemo dat quod non habet
 


 From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 12:51 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Throwing Out the Free Market Playbook: An Interview with 
Naomi Klein
  
http://www.thesolutionsjournal.com/node/1053

Volume 3 | Issue 1 | Feb 2012

Throwing Out the Free Market Playbook: An Interview with Naomi Klein

Perhaps one of the most well-known voices for the Left, Canadian 
Naomi Klein is an activist and author of several nonfiction works 
critical of consumerism and corporate activity, including the best 
sellers No Logo (2000) and Shock Doctrine (2007).

In your cover story for the Nation last year, you say that modern 
environmentalism successfully advances many of the causes dear to the 
political Left, including redistribution of wealth, higher and more 
progressive taxes, and greater government intervention and 
regulation. Please explain.

The piece came out of my interest and my shock at the fact that 
belief in climate change in the United States has plummeted. If you 
really drill into the polling data, what you see is that the drop in 
belief in climate change is really concentrated on the right of the 
political spectrum. It's been an extraordinary and unusual shift in 
belief in a short time. In 2007, 71 percent of Americans believed in 
climate change and in 2009 only 51 percent believed-and now we're at 
41 percent. So I started researching the denial movement and going to 
conferences and reading the books, and what's clear is that, on the 
right, climate change is seen as a threat to the Right's worldview, 
and to the neoliberal economic worldview. It's seen as a Marxist 
plot. They accuse climate scientists of being watermelons-green on 
the outside and red on the inside.

It seems exaggerated, but your piece was about how the Right is in 
fact correct.

I don't think climate change necessitates a social revolution. This 
idea is coming from the right-wing think tanks and not scientific 
organizations. They're ideological organizations. Their core reason 
for being is to defend what they call free-market ideology. They feel 
that any government intervention leads us to serfdom and brings about 
a socialist world, so that's what they have to fight off: a socialist 
world. Increase the power of the private sector and decrease the 
public sphere is their ideology.

You can set up carbon markets, consumer markets, and just pretend, 
but if you want to get serious about climate change, really serious, 
in line with the science, and you want to meet targets like 80 
percent emissions cuts by midcentury in the developed world, then you 
need to be intervening strongly in the economy, and you can't do it 
all with carbon markets and offsetting. You have to really seriously 
regulate corporations and invest in the public sector. And we need to 
build public transport systems and light rail and affordable housing 
along transit lines to lower emissions. The market is not going to 
step up to this challenge. We must do more: rebuild levees and 
bridges and the public sphere, because we saw in Katrina what happens 
when weak infrastructure clashes with heavy weather-it's catastrophe. 
These climate deniers aren't crazy-their worldview is under threat. 
If you take climate change seriously, you do have to throw out the 
free-market playbook.

What is the political philosophy that underscores those who accept 
climate change versus those who deny it?

The Yale cultural cognition project has looked at cultural worldview 
and climate change, and what's clear is that ideology is the main 
factor in whether we believe in climate change. If you have an 
egalitarian and communitarian worldview, and you tend toward a belief 
system of pooling resources and helping the less advantaged, then you 
believe in climate change. And the stronger your belief system tends 
toward a hierarchical or individual worldview, the greater the 
chances are that you deny climate change and the stronger your denial 
will be. The reason is clear: it's because people protect their 
worldviews. We all do this. We develop intellectual antibodies. 
Climate change confirms what people on the left already believe. But 
the Left must take this confirmation responsibly. It means that if 
you are on the left of the spectrum, you need to guard against 
exaggeration and your own tendency to unquestioningly accept the data 
because it confirms your worldview.

Members of the Left have been resistant to acknowledging that this 
worldview is behind their support of climate action, while the Right 
confronts it head on. Why this hesitancy among liberals?

There are a few factors at work. Climate change is not a big issue 
for the Left. The big left issues in the United States are 
inequality, the banks, corporate malfeasance, unemployment, 
foreclosures. I don't think climate change 

Re: [Biofuel] briquette machine

2012-03-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
I was wondering about sagebrush.
Ranchers in the west would pay you to cut it so the source is free +
would smell nice too

 

Nemo dat quod non habet



 From: Fritz Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org 
Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] briquette machine
 
Hi Kirk,
briquettes and pellets from wood chips are ment to be from shavings and 
offcuts
of regular production facilitys.
I have since 2000 a briquttpress in my woodshop here in Quebec.
At first the ministry of environment didnt allow me to heat my shop with 
briquettes!
Oil was ok
Pellets are a good source of heating,but for a woodshop not ideal because 
very sensytive
about different shavings,you need allways the same shavings as per wood and 
sice of the shavings.
Thats ok for big manufactures of woodenfloors,wich would have allways the 
same kind of shavings!
All in all,a very good way of recycling wast.
Not so for direct production of pellets and briquettes.
The breaking down and drying of green wood takes to much energy and is 
therefor not the best solution!
So the slogan:  make your own biomass products is only good for woodshops of 
a certain size!
Fritz
www.boiseriestraditionnelles.ca

-Original Message- 
From: Kirk McLoren
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:04 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] briquette machine

http://www.biogreentech.com/
make your own biomass products




Nemo dat quod non habet



From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 12:51 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Throwing Out the Free Market Playbook: An Interview with 
Naomi Klein

http://www.thesolutionsjournal.com/node/1053

Volume 3 | Issue 1 | Feb 2012

Throwing Out the Free Market Playbook: An Interview with Naomi Klein

Perhaps one of the most well-known voices for the Left, Canadian
Naomi Klein is an activist and author of several nonfiction works
critical of consumerism and corporate activity, including the best
sellers No Logo (2000) and Shock Doctrine (2007).
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[Biofuel] A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 - by Isao Hashimoto - YouTube - Sent using Google Toolbar

2012-02-29 Thread Kirk McLoren




 



Nemo dat quod non habet

Subject: A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 - by Isao 
Hashimoto - YouTube 



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[Biofuel] Big Carbon's Sock Puppets Declare War on America and the Planet

2011-11-27 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/cleantech-_b_1112793.html

It's now become de rigueur among the radical right wing rhetoricians to 
characterize any government support of America's green energy sector as 
wasteful, fruitless, and scandalous. They greeted with glee the collapse of the 
government supported solar company, Solyndra, America's first major casualty in 
our race with China to dominate the new energy economy. With Solyndra dying 
on the battlefield -- its marketplace choking on inexpensive Chinese solar 
panels -- the right wing's response was to hoist the white flag and declare 
defeat in the war for global cleantech leadership. That brand of Can't Do 
cowardice is a boon to the carbon and nuclear power incumbents who fund so much 
of the right wing's activities -- but it's bad for America. 
Leveraging the aberrant Solyndra bankruptcy, these groups have launched an 
orchestrated series of attacks against the renewables sector by trying to 
discredit other companies, even those that are driving America forward with 
innovative solutions that actually do compete on a global basis. For example, 
last month, Fox News ran a story insinuating that SunPower received a loan 
guarantee for its Central Valley Solar Ranch project because of its political 
connections Congressman George Miller. The story also suggested that SunPower 
was struggling financially and posed another risk to taxpayers -- a la 
Solyndra. The truth is that SunPower is one of America's strongest solar 
manufacturing companies and Mr. Miller had nothing to do with the company 
receiving a loan guarantee for its Central Valley Solar Ranch Project. To Fox 
News and other right wing media sources, the facts meant very little. Their 
intent is only to suggest wrong-doing in an attempt to
 undermine the Obama Administration and its clean energy goals. 
Last week found the right wing echo chamber, from Fox News to the New York 
Post, and the conservative blogosphere in an anti-green frenzy based on faux 
facts from a new book, Throw Them All Out. The author of this far-fetched 
screed is Peter Schweizer, Sarah Palin's foreign policy guru, currently 
employed by the Hoover Institution, a think tank funded largely by oil 
interests (e.g., Exxon, ARCO, Transamerica, and Richard Mellon Scaife's oil and 
banking fortune) to craft the philosophical underpinnings for unregulated 
pollution, unrestricted corporate profit taking, and massive corporate welfare 
for the carbon/nuke incumbents. 
Thanks to a mention in Schweizer's far-fetched opus, I got a shout out, last 
week from most of these crackpot gas bags. The Daily Mail summarized my 
supposed crimes in its headline: JFK's nephew received $1.4 billion dollar 
taxpayer bailout for his struggling green energy firm.
All of the reported facts in this blogosphonic barrage were Schweizer's 
inventions. Schweizer claims that BrightSource Energy received a government 
bailout due to political influence exerted on behalf of VantagePoint Capital 
Partners, where I am a partner and which is the largest institutional 
shareholder of BrightSource. 
The actual facts do not support Schweizer's claims. BrightSource Energy did not 
receive a bailout. Rather, the Ivanpah project, a 392 megawatt solar thermal 
project in the Mojave Desert that will provide clean power to 140,000 homes, 
received a loan guarantee from the Department of Energy (DOE). Ivanpah, which 
broke ground in October 2010, is majority owned by Google and energy giant NRG. 
BrightSource is a minority owner of and the technology supplier to the Ivanpah 
project. The underlying loan from private investors is fully secured, and pays 
interest that will earn a healthy return for U.S. taxpayers. 
Unlike Solyndra which received corporate financing from DOE, and which had no 
assurance that it would be able to sell its product, Ivanpah and the Central 
Valley Solar Ranch projects have contractual commitments from California's 
largest utilities to buy all of its power at fixed prices. This is comparable 
to building a new hotel with the guarantee that it will have 100% occupancy 
rates for 20+ years. 
Schweizer's claims that the loan guarantee works out to a cost to taxpayers of 
$1 million per job is also a canard. 
The Ivanpah project is one of the largest infrastructure projects in the nation 
and the largest solar thermal plant under construction in the world. The 
project's three year construction phase will create 1,400 highly-skilled trade, 
engineering and construction jobs at peak. These are high paying union jobs in 
a region plagued by one of America's highest unemployment rates. The project 
will generate $250 million in earnings for these construction workers and, over 
its 30 year life, will produce $650 million in earnings for workers on the 
site, including the 90 permanent jobs required to operate the plant. 
Finally, the $2.2 billion Ivanpah project is an investment in America's future 
with substantial indirect 

Re: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty

2011-10-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
I would place Monsanto at the top of the list
Kirk


 


From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:53 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/20-8

Published on Thursday, October 20, 2011 by Single Payer Action

Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty

by Russell Mokhiber

One of the most famous signs to come out of Occupy Wall Street stated 
simply: I will believe corporations are people when Texas executes 
one.

That was sort of a joke.

But in fact, for the benefit of real live human beings, some 
corporations ought to be executed.

My guess is that most of the occupiers at Wall Street would be in 
favor of the corporate death penalty.

Some - like Richard Grossman - would criminalize the corporate form.

But if you want to take the incremental approach, here's my list of 
five candidates for the corporate death penalty.

Health insurance corporations. Most western industrialized countries 
- with the exception of the USA - already have this death penalty in 
place. In those countries, corporations are not allowed to sell 
primary private health insurance. Instead, there is a public single 
payer - everybody in, nobody out. Under this death penalty proposal 
corporations like Aetna, CIGNA, UnitedHealth, and Wellpoint would be 
put out of business. And with a public single payer to replace them, 
we'd save billions of dollars and the lives of more than 45,000 
Americans who die every year from lack of health insurance.

Nuclear power corporations. Do we really need a Fukushima here in the 
United States? We do not. Without government loan guarantees and 
federal limits on nuclear liability, the industry would be put out of 
business. So, we could simply cut the federal subsidy and that would 
be the end of it. And we should. A wide range of safer, cleaner 
energy options is available to replace the energy currently being 
generated by unsafe nuclear power.

Giant Banks. Wells Fargo. Citibank. Bank of America. JP Morgan Chase. 
Morgan Stanley. Goldman Sachs. They should be executed - broken up 
and replaced by smaller banks. Break up the big banks. And impose a 
hard cap on their size. No bank should have assets of more than four 
percent of GDP. There is support across the political spectrum for 
this proposal. During the debate over financial reform, the measure 
garnered 33 votes in the Senate - it was called the Brown-Kaufman 
amendment.

Fracking corporations. Hydraulic fracturing - fracking - is wrecking 
havoc in the northeastern part of the United States. Any corporation 
engaged in fracking behavior that threatens drinking water supplies 
ought to be put out of business. Anti-fracking activists in New York 
have already drafted legislation that would criminalize fracking 
corporations.

Corporate criminal recidivists. Legislatures should adopt provisions 
to strip corporations of their charters for serious corporate 
violations or for recidivist behavior. Some states already have such 
provisions, although they are rarely invoked.

Some corporations have been put to death for wrongful behavior, but 
they have been mostly smaller companies.

In 1983, the Attorney General of Virginia asked the state's 
corporation commission to dissolve a book company convicted of 
possessing obscene films.

But when it comes to the serious crimes that big corporations engage 
in - pollution, corruption, fraud, threatening the lives of real 
Americans - the death penalty is off the table.

If we are serious about corporate crime, the death penalty is a 
deterrent that will work.

Russell Mokhiber is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Corporate 
Crime Reporter.  He is also founder of singlepayeraction.org, and 
editor of the website Morgan County USA

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Re: [Biofuel] 9/11 conspiracy theory

2011-09-13 Thread Kirk McLoren
Brilliant!!
--Kirk


I wouldn’t want to fly Virgin. Who’d want to fly an airline that doesn’t go all 
the way?

From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:23 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] 9/11 conspiracy theory

Everything you ever wanted to know about the 9/11 conspiracy theory 
in under 5 minutes. 
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article29110.htm

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Re: [Biofuel] Decline of Honey Bees Now a Global Phenomenon, says United Nations

2011-03-12 Thread Kirk McLoren

I know there was concern the genetically modified corn, I think it was corn, 
was 
wiping out the monarch
butterfly. The toxin was a systemic.
Surprised GMO factors are omitted in the article. I believe Monsanto is the most
evil corporation on the planet.

Kirk





From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 4:03:00 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Decline of Honey Bees Now a Global Phenomenon, says United 
Nations

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/decline-of-honey-bees-now-a-global-phenomenon-says-united-nations-2237541.html


Published on Thursday, March 10, 2011 by the Independent/UK

Decline of Honey Bees Now a Global Phenomenon, says United Nations

by Michael McCarthy

The mysterious collapse of honey-bee colonies is becoming a global 
phenomenon, scientists working for the United Nations have revealed.

Declines in managed bee colonies, seen increasingly in Europe and the 
US in the past decade, are also now being observed in China and Japan 
and there are the first signs of African collapses from Egypt, 
according to the report from the United Nations Environment Program 
(UNEP).

The authors, who include some of the world's leading honey-bee 
experts, issue a stark warning about the disappearance of bees, which 
are increasingly important as crop pollinators around the globe. 
Without profound changes to the way human beings manage the planet, 
they say, declines in pollinators needed to feed a growing global 
population are likely to continue. The scientists warn that a number 
of factors may now be coming together to hit bee colonies around the 
world, ranging from declines in flowering plants and the use of 
damaging insecticides, to the worldwide spread of pests and air 
pollution. They call for farmers and landowners to be offered 
incentives to restore pollinator-friendly habitats, including key 
flowering plants near crop-producing fields and stress that more care 
needs to be taken in the choice, timing and application of 
insecticides and other chemicals. While managed hives can be moved 
out of harm's way, wild populations (of pollinators) are completely 
vulnerable, says the report.

The way humanity manages or mismanages its nature-based assets, 
including pollinators, will in part define our collective future in 
the 21st century, said Achim Steiner, UN Under-Secretary-General and 
UNEP Executive Director.

The fact is that of the 100 crop species that provide 90 per cent of 
the world's food, over 70 are pollinated by bees.

Human beings have fabricated the illusion that in the 21st century 
they have the technological prowess to be independent of nature.

Bees underline the reality that we are more, not less, dependent on 
nature's services in a world of close to seven billion people.

Declines in bee colonies date back to the mid 1960s in Europe, but 
have accelerated since 1998, while in North America, losses of 
colonies since 2004 have left the continent with fewer managed 
pollinators than at any time in the past 50 years, says the report.

Now Chinese beekeepers have recently faced several inexplicable and 
complex symptoms of colony losses in both species, the report says. 
And it has been reported elsewhere that some Chinese farmers have had 
to resort to pollinating fruit trees by hand because of the lack of 
insects.

Furthermore, a quarter of beekeepers in Japan have recently been 
confronted with sudden losses of their bee colonies, while in 
Africa, beekeepers along the Egyptian Nile have been reporting signs 
of colony collapse disorder - although to date there are no other 
confirmed reports from the rest of the continent.

The report lists a number of factors which may be coming together to 
cause the decline and they include:

- Habitat degradation, including the loss of flowering plant species 
that provide food for bees;

- Some insecticides, including the so-called systemic insecticides 
which can migrate to the entire plant as it grows and be taken in by 
bees in nectar and pollen;

- Parasites and pests, such as the well-known Varroa mite;

- Air pollution, which may be interfering with the ability of bees to 
find flowering plants and thus food - scents that could travel more 
than 800 meters in the 1800s now reach less than 200 meters from a 
plant.

The transformation of the countryside and rural areas in the past 
half-century or so has triggered a decline in wild-living bees and 
other pollinators, said one of the lead authors, Dr Peter Neumann of 
the Swiss Bee Research Center.

Society is increasingly investing in 'industrial-scale' hives and 
managed colonies to make up the shortfall and going so far as to 
truck bees around to farms and fields in order to maintain our food 
supplies.

A variety of factors are making these man-made colonies vulnerable 
to decline and collapse. We need to get smarter about how we manage 
these hives, but perhaps more importantly, 

Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out

2011-03-09 Thread Kirk McLoren

 

A Sako is a Finnish rifle. I have one of the 3 lug magnums. They dont make them 
anymore. Too expensive to manufacture they say.
The bolt is more rigid as it has support every 120 degrees instead of 180.

Machine precision isnt great. A weldingshop can do it. Not like you were going 
to build a hydraulic cylinder or an engine.
More like the skill set of building a water wheel.

The mechanical processes are familiar, just combined uniquely. A hammer is a 
hammer even when it is part of my machine.
I intend to build one. Just thought I wouldnt make the world wait until I found 
resources.
I suppose most people would keep it secret and patent it and become the next 
General Electric.
Guess I am a weird duck.

Kirk

 


From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 5:56:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out

Hello Kirk

I am financially strapped but hopefully my Sako will sell soon and my friend
will cut the wheel for me.

What's a Sako?

I actually thought it would be so apparent when pointed out that people could
get busy and throw them together.

But nobody has, have they? It's obviously apparent to you, but 
perhaps not to anyone else. And it'll cost some money, it sounds like 
it needs precision engineering. So then it wouldn't be a matter of 
just throwing them together, would it? People need to be convinced 
before they'll invest time and money.

I was further motivated to disclose because of my health.

I'm sorry to hear that.

I very well could not
be here to disclose if I waited. -Oh well.

I wasn't talking about waiting.

Plans are as easy as falling off a log.

Well that shouldn't be a problem for you then. If plans would be that 
easy, why not produce plans?

Sorry if this seems tiresome, but the rest of your message is just 
another explanation. Explanations are not the same as plans, a 
working model, a design. As far as I'm concerned, and perhaps to most 
of us here, all it amounts to is just more theorising.

  So I gurantee it works.

You can't guarantee it. Guarantees are 100%. Until you've built a 
working model and proved that it works as you think it will, you 
won't really know yourself whether it works or not, despite your 
conviction that it will. Don't you owe it to yourself to do that?

Best wishes

Keith


momentum is transferred between 2 masses
using a wheel as a lever and the only thing you have to observe is
input momentum is transferred at v/2 and output mass has to have the same mass
relationship as the ratio of wheel diameters. ie if mass is 4:1
  then driven point on wheel and output point on wheel are also 4:1
Capturing the faster mass after it has swapped its ke for altitude 
is done with
a ferris wheel (or think water wheel) or cups on a belt also called 
an elevator
in the agriculture industry.
People insist on thinking ke is something besides velocity and it isnt. The
glareing clue should be it ignores Newtons 3rd law of motion.
When Einstein discussed conservation of energy he used momentum not 
ke. There is
a reason he chose to do it that way

I suppose the classic textbook nonsense is they describe a mass moving at x
velocity picking up (colliding) with an equivalent mass and now 
moving v/2. They
show how no momentum was lost, ie m1v1=m2v2 and then fall off the 
wagon with the
absurdity the missing ke was turned into heat and sound. If you lost 
no momentum
you lost no energy. Cant have it both ways.
So much for Newtonian mechanics in the 21st century educational system.

So I gurantee it works. Just have to keep beating my head against the wall I
suppose.
I think educated people are at a disadvantage. If you believe something to the
point there is no doubt, no question in your mind, then when asked 
to change it
you have to go through some profound psychological changes. I know when I
fianally saw it I actually felt physically dizzy for a moment. Interesting
that changing a viewpoint could do that.
Seems once something is part of the paradigm we can go hysterically 
blind rather
than challenge it.
Funny creatures arent we?

Soon, very soon, my friend I can take pictures and hopefully that will do it.

All the best
Kirk





From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 2:10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out

Hello Kirk

I published my notes on the Bessler list how momentum can be manipulated to
extract power.
Probably the best fuel is no fuel needed
  http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=84182#84182

But I don't see much there. There's some discussion further up the
page and so on. Can we look forward to you building a working device
in the near future? someone asks. Can we? Now we need to set up a
shop and turn them out by the thousands, you say. But that requires
a working model, a design, plans, not just theoretical discussion, or
nobody'll buy it except the 

Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out

2011-03-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
I am financially strapped but hopefully my Sako will sell soon and my friend 
will cut the wheel for me.
I actually thought it would be so apparent when pointed out that people could 
get busy and throw them together.
I was further motivated to disclose because of my health. I very well could not 
be here to disclose if I waited. -Oh well.

Plans are as easy as falling off a log. momentum is transferred between 2 
masses 
using a wheel as a lever and the only thing you have to observe is
input momentum is transferred at v/2 and output mass has to have the same mass 
relationship as the ratio of wheel diameters. ie if mass is 4:1
 then driven point on wheel and output point on wheel are also 4:1
Capturing the faster mass after it has swapped its ke for altitude is done with 
a ferris wheel (or think water wheel) or cups on a belt also called an elevator 
in the agriculture industry.
People insist on thinking ke is something besides velocity and it isnt. The 
glareing clue should be it ignores Newtons 3rd law of motion.
When Einstein discussed conservation of energy he used momentum not ke. There 
is 
a reason he chose to do it that way

I suppose the classic textbook nonsense is they describe a mass moving at x 
velocity picking up (colliding) with an equivalent mass and now moving v/2. 
They 
show how no momentum was lost, ie m1v1=m2v2 and then fall off the wagon with 
the 
absurdity the missing ke was turned into heat and sound. If you lost no 
momentum 
you lost no energy. Cant have it both ways.
So much for Newtonian mechanics in the 21st century educational system.

So I gurantee it works. Just have to keep beating my head against the wall I 
suppose.
I think educated people are at a disadvantage. If you believe something to the 
point there is no doubt, no question in your mind, then when asked to change it 
you have to go through some profound psychological changes. I know when I 
fianally saw it I actually felt physically dizzy for a moment. Interesting 
that changing a viewpoint could do that.
Seems once something is part of the paradigm we can go hysterically blind 
rather 
than challenge it.
Funny creatures arent we?

Soon, very soon, my friend I can take pictures and hopefully that will do it.

All the best
Kirk





From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 2:10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] I sussed it out

Hello Kirk

I published my notes on the Bessler list how momentum can be manipulated to
extract power.
Probably the best fuel is no fuel needed
  http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=84182#84182

But I don't see much there. There's some discussion further up the 
page and so on. Can we look forward to you building a working device 
in the near future? someone asks. Can we? Now we need to set up a 
shop and turn them out by the thousands, you say. But that requires 
a working model, a design, plans, not just theoretical discussion, or 
nobody'll buy it except the true-believers. Sorry to sound so 
negative, but that's how it is, IMHO. Do you have a design that 
works, not just something for further experimentation?

hope all is well with you Keith

Got more problems than a cat with 20 kittens and only two tits. :-) 
Changing countries has never been so complicated before. Nearly there 
though - I'll go out in an hour or so and dash about the place again, 
and that should be it, then I can take it easy for a while. Yes, 
all's well.

I hope all's well with you too Kirk.

All best

Keith

Kirk


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[Biofuel] I sussed it out

2011-03-06 Thread Kirk McLoren
I published my notes on the Bessler list how momentum can be manipulated to 
extract power.
Probably the best fuel is no fuel needed
 http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=84182#84182

hope all is well with you Keith

Kirk
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Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

2010-12-01 Thread Kirk McLoren
If you built a heliostat field with a concentration of say 10 and made the 
greenhouse an insulated building except for the window receiving the light from 
the heliostats you could reduce supplementary heating tremendously. The wall on 
the far side should be reflective. Window is of course at focal point of field 
and should be low iron glass. Even a building such as the passive solar rooms 
as 
in Rodale press book Passive solar heating with a tilt out reflector which is 
insulated on the back so when it is closed at night heat loss is more 
comparable 
to a regular house would save tremendous amounts of heat. 

Look into PAR lamps for cloudy days. (Photosynthetically Available Radiation)
  





From: Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 6:42:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming

This company supplies tomatoes to local stores year-round in Ottawa, 
Ontario, Canada.

http://www.suntech.ca/

You might want to investigate how the do things.

Looks like average temperatures are pretty comparable for SD and Ottawa 
over the course of the year (comparing 
http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/57103
 
to 
http://www.weather.com/outlook/driving/interstate/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/57103).


Darryl

On 30/11/2010 11:43 PM, Dan Beukelman wrote:
 Hello All,

    I have read your posts for several years, but have not ever posted -
 lurking in the shadows I guess.



 I am wondering if anyone out there has any thoughts/experience with
 production agriculture from a greenhouse/hothouse structure.  I live in
 South Dakota and have been thinking that with energy efficient glass and the
 right setup that growing fresh vegetables likes tomatoes year around might
 be possible (I say this with a wind chill today near 0 fahrenheit).  I have
 read that many of the US tomato supply is grown in Canada, which is colder
 than us, our area is dominated by grain farming - but I think that local
 foods stores would go nuts over a locally grown garden type tomato in the
 Wintertime.  The construction costs of a very efficient greenhouse should be
 able to be covered by the profit from selling a well growing tomato crop,
 but the profits go out the window if you have the heat much.  All of the
 greenhouses I know of around here use plastic coverings and that is only
 useful for extending the growing season a little bit on both ends.  I am
 thinking of keeping growth all year or nearly all year.



 Any thoughts?

 Dan


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[Biofuel] Online music

2009-11-03 Thread Kirk McLoren

 a slick way to listen to music online, giving you complete control over what 
you want to hear.

http://listen.grooveshark.com/
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[Biofuel] BIRDS full of PLASTIC......outrageous.

2009-11-01 Thread Kirk McLoren

http://www.chrisjordan.com/current_set2.php?id=11

Midway



Message from the Gyre   
 
 

These photographs of albatross chicks were made just a few weeks ago on
Midway Atoll, a tiny stretch of sand and coral near the middle of the
North Pacific. The nesting babies are fed bellies-full of plastic by
their parents, who soar out over the vast polluted ocean collecting
what looks to them like food to bring back to their young. On this diet
of human trash, every year tens of thousands of albatross chicks die on
Midway from starvation, toxicity, and choking. 


To document this phenomenon as faithfully as possible, not a single
piece of plastic in any of these photographs was moved, placed,
manipulated, arranged, or altered in any way. These images depict the
actual stomach contents of baby birds in one of the world's most remote
marine sanctuaries, more than 2000 miles from the nearest continent.



~cj, October 2009

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[Biofuel] Amazing pictures - pollution in China

2009-10-30 Thread Kirk McLoren

http://www.chinahush.com/2009/10/21/amazing-pictures-pollution-in-china/
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[Biofuel] How a Torture Protest Killed a Career

2009-10-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=11539

How a Torture Protest Killed a Career
Craig Murray – Consortium News October 24, 2009


I’ve never, ever spoken in public about the pain of being a
whistleblower. Partly because of the British stiff-upper lip thing and
partly as well because if you wish to try eventually to get on and
reestablish yourself then it doesn’t do to show weakness. …




I was sitting in this place on my own and feeling rather lonely.
And there were a whole bunch of people in dark suits coming from
government offices, in many cases in groups, and there they were with
the men’s suits sleek and the ladies, the whole office, power-politics
thing going on, having after-dinner champagne in the posh bar.




And I was remembering how many times I’d been the center of such
groups and of how successful my life used to be. I was a British
ambassador at the age of 42. The average age for such a post is 57.




I was successful in worldly terms. And I think I almost never sat
alone at such a place. Normally if I had been alone in such a place, I
would have ended up probably in the company of a beautiful young lady
of some kind.




I tell you that partly because this whole question of personal
morality is a complicated one. I would never, ever, no one would have
ever pointed at me as someone likely to become or to be a person of
conscience. And yet eventually I found myself on the outside and
treated in a way that challenged my whole view of the world.





Mission to Tashkent

Let me start to tell you something about how that happened. I was a
British ambassador in Uzbekistan and I was told before I went that
Uzbekistan was an important ally in the war on terror, had given the
United States a very important airbase which was a forward mounting
post for Afghanistan, and was a bulwark against Islamic extremism in
Central Asia. 




When I got there I found it was a dreadful regime, absolutely
totalitarian. And there’s a difference between dictatorship of which
there are many and a totalitarian dictatorship which unless you’ve
actually been in one is hard to comprehend. 




There’s absolutely no free media whatsoever. News on every single
channel, the news programs start with 12 items about what the president
did today. And that’s it. That is the news. There are no other news
channels and international news channels are blocked. 




There are about 12,000 political prisoners. Any sign of religious
enthusiasm for any religion will get you put into jail. The majority of
people are predominantly Muslim. But if you are to carry out the
rituals of the Muslim religion, particularly if you were to pray five
times a day, you’d be in jail very quickly. Young men are put in jail
for growing beards. 




It’s not the only religion which is outlawed. The jails are actually
quite full of Baptists. Being Baptist is illegal in Uzbekistan. I’m
sure that Methodists and Quakers would be illegal, too, It’s just that
they haven’t got any so they haven’t gotten around to making them
illegal. 




And it’s really not a joke. If you are put into prison in Uzbekistan
the chances of coming out again alive are less than even. And most of
the prisons are still the old Soviet gulags in the most literal sense.
They are physically the same places. The biggest one being the Jaslyk
gulag in the deserts of the Kizyl Kum.




I had only been there for a week or two when I went to a show trial
of an al-Qaeda terrorist they had caught. It was a big event put on
partly for the benefit of the American embassy to demonstrate the
strength of the U.S.-Uzbek alliance against terrorism. 




When I got there, to call the trial unconvincing would be an
underestimate. There was one moment when this old man [who] had given
evidence that his nephew was a member of al-Qaeda and had personally
met Osama bin Laden. And like everybody else in that court he was
absolutely terrified. 




But suddenly as he was giving his evidence, he seemed from somewhere to
find an inner strength. He was a very old man but he stood taller and
said in a stronger voice, he said, “This is not true. This is not true.
They tortured my children in front of me until I signed this. I had
never heard of al-Qaeda or Osama bin Laden.” 




He was then hustled out of the court and we never did find out what had
happened to him. He was almost certainly killed. But as it happens I
was within touching distance of him when he said that and I can’t
explain it. It’s not entirely rational. But you could just feel it was
true. You could tell he was speaking the truth when he said that.




And that made me start to call into doubt the whole question of the
narrative about al-Qaeda in Uzbekistan and the alliance in the war on
terror.





Boiled to Death 

Something which took that doubt over the top happened about a week
later. The West -- because Uzbekistan was our great ally in the war on
terror – had shown no interest in the human rights situation at all. In
fact, the 

Re: [Biofuel] [no-forced-vaccination] surprized there was no comment re Andrew Moulden

2009-09-25 Thread Kirk McLoren

http://media.abovetopsecret.com/media/2374/Dr_Andrew_Moulden/

Actually to see Mouldens material you have to go to utube or Googlevideo and 
put his name in the search window. Links are proving unreliable - they didnt 
used to be.

If I was in Canada he would be my choice.
Kirk



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  WOW.  My husband and I watched that Video and we were very 
frustrated to say the least. I sent it to everyone in my other address book.  I 
hope people do not get offended but have the courage to open their eyes.
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[Biofuel] more Moulden

2009-09-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3296758102537633637ei=N0S5SpTvCKbmqQKjxNiKAgq=dr+andrew+moulden

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[Biofuel] Andrew Moulden

2009-09-21 Thread Kirk McLoren
19h30 - 21h00
Les vaccins causent des accidents microvasculaires, des dommages neurologiques 
et de nombreuses maladies (Présenté en anglais)
Dr Andrew Moulden

a sequence of videos regarding public health. Moulden was fast tracking to head 
of Quebec medicine 2004 when he and his conscience collided.
A must see!




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[Biofuel] The Government Can

2009-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh6f5Go0feature=player_embedded#t=71
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[Biofuel] swine flu is a sneeze compared to this

2009-09-19 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local-beat/Rare-Disease-Surfaces-in-Key-West-57760712.html


  Dengue Fever Surfaces in Key West

  Florida hasn't seen a case the rare disease in 
more than 80 years
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[Biofuel] best and worst cell phones -brain cancer

2009-09-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Enterprise-Applications/Cell-Phone-Radiation-Five-Best-and-Worst-Devices-By-Roy-Mark-748541/?kc=EWKNLEDP09172009A


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[Biofuel] Fw: Vitamin D may protect against the flu

2009-09-16 Thread Kirk McLoren

D3 is the D of interest
Kirk



--- On Wed, 9/16/09, denvernaturopathic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: denvernaturopathic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Vitamin D may protect against the flu
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 2:24 PM


Vitamin D and that Flu thing:
Jacob Schor ND FABNO
September 16, 2009

As most of you are well aware from past newsletters, I believe that there is 
compelling evidence to thing the seasonality of flu outbreaks can be linked to 
seasonal fluctuations in vitamin D status in individuals.  Vitamin D levels are 
at their highest in late summer and early fall and at their lowest in late 
winter and early spring.  These fluctuations correspond exactly with incidence 
of flu infections.

To this point we have not seen anything published in the peer reviewed 
literature suggesting that adequate vitamin D levels are protective against the 
H1N1 strain of influenza.  We have assumed it will be but until there is proof, 
doubt remains.  Thus it is with interest that I read an email from John 
Cannell, MD just now.  Dr. Cannell forwarded and email from Norris Glick, MD 
who describes the experience of the Central Wisconsin Center (CWC) and extended 
care facility.  

The CWC is home for 275 residents.  There are approximately 800 staff that work 
at the facility caring for the residents.  The vitamin D levels of the 
residents are tested regularly the residents receive oral supplements to 
maintain adequate levels.  In June 2009 two residents of CWC developed 
influenza like illness and positive for the H1N1 flu. These were the only two 
residents to get sick.  On the other hand when it came to the staff who were 
not monitored for vitamin D levels, 103 got sick.  I’ll  paste Dr. Glick’s 
letter below

Granted that this data is not published in a peer reviewed journal but it 
certainly makes me pay attention.  Dr. Cannell maintains a website about 
vitamin D and sends out random newsletters.    You can sign up for Dr. 
Cannell’s newsletter at his website: 
http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/



Dear Dr. Cannell:
 
Your recent newsletters and video about Swine flu (H1N1) prompted me to convey 
our recent experience with an H1N1 outbreak at Central Wisconsin Center (CWC). 
Unfortunately, the state epidemiologist was not interested in studying it 
further so I pass it on to you since I think it is noteworthy. 
 
CWC is a long-term care facility for people with developmental disabilities, 
home for approx. 275 people with approx. 800 staff. Serum 25-OHD has been 
monitored in virtually all residents for several years and patients 
supplemented with vitamin D.
 
In June, 2009, at the time of the well-publicized Wisconsin spike in H1N1 
cases, two residents developed influenza-like illness (ILI) and had positive 
tests for H1N1: one was a long-term resident; the other, a child, was 
transferred to us with what was later proven to be H1N1.
 
On the other hand, 60 staff members developed ILI or were documented to have 
H1N1: of 17 tested for ILI, eight were positive. An additional 43 staff members 
called in sick with ILI. (Approx. 11-12 staff developed ILI after working on 
the unit where the child was given care, several of whom had positive H1N1 
tests.) 
 
So, it is rather remarkable that only two residents of 275 developed ILI, one 
of which did not develop it here, while 103 of 800 staff members had ILI. It 
appears that the spread of H1N1 was not from staff-to-resident but from 
resident-to-staff (most obvious in the imported case) and between staff, 
implying that staff were susceptible and our residents protected. 
 
 
Sincerely,
 
Norris Glick, MD
Central Wisconsin Center
Madison, WI




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[Biofuel] special paint

2009-09-15 Thread Kirk McLoren
they are using this or something like it to save energy in Europe.

http://www.edenpuresale.com/energy-saver-paint.html?gclid=CNT2y43285wCFQ8MDQodjV8Riw




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[Biofuel] adorable security threat

2009-09-15 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/thailand/090911/thailands-adorable-security-threat

  
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woman takes part in the All Japan Paper Airplane Championship in Tokyo,
Nov. 1, 2008. Mong Thongdee qualified for an expenses-paid, global
paper airplane competition. (Yuriko Nakao/Reuters)Paper airplane, or paper 
tiger?Meet Mong Thongdee, a 12-year-old security threat in Thailand.By 
Patrick Winn - GlobalPostPublished: September 12, 2009  08:28  ET-A +ABANGKOK — 
Maybe the Thai government shouldn’t have deemed 12-year-old Mong Thongdee a 
security threat.
That was the declaration that — in the public’s eye, at least — seemed to pit 
stodgy officials against adolescent dreams.
For weeks, the media here has been smitten with Mong, a Thai-born
fourth-grader with a passion for flight. “Since first grade, I’ve loved
observing planes in the sky,” he told GlobalPost in a phone interview.
“One day, I started building little planes out of plastic and, later
on, out of paper.”
Mong’s designs have proved agile. After one of his planes stayed
aloft for 12.5 seconds, he qualified for an expenses-paid, global paper
airplane competition held Sept. 19-20 in Chiba, Japan. Mong’s flight
time has bested all others in his age bracket.
But Mong, born to Burmese construction workers in the Thai city of
Chiang Mai, is essentially a citizen of nowhere. Thai law insists that,
by parentage, Mong belongs to Burma — a neighboring country that does
not even recognize his birth. Though Mong calls Thailand home, he’s
always been a “temporary resident” at risk of deportation.
For stateless kids like Mong, a passport — much less citizenship —
is largely out of the question. Only through talent, tears and the
prime minister’s intervention has he secured temporary papers allowing
a one-time-only trip to Japan. More on Thailand:Rock 'N Roll PsyOpsThai teens 
go for big eyes (Video)Thailand's new boat peopleAfter
Thailand’s Interior Ministry ruled that Mong’s travel request countered
a law protecting “national security,” Thai TV outlets broadcast footage
of him sobbing and begging for help. “He was so hurt,” said Yoon
Thongdee, the boy’s father. “He cried for a whole day.”
As the contest’s registration deadline drew close last week,
Premier Abhisit Vejjajiva decided to intervene. Mong’s next major TV
appearance was taped inside parliament. There, the premier and the
12-year-old — a visitor’s pass clipped to his pastel blue school
uniform — played with paper planes in front of cameras. The
bureaucratic barriers suddenly melted away.
Mong now appears Japan-bound via a special temporary passport. Each
night, he folds planes and does push-ups to grow “strong enough for the
competition,” his father said.
“I’ve been making my muscles strong,” Mong said. “The prime minister
told me to bring that championship back to Thailand and ‘fight, fight!’”
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[Biofuel] paint that saves energy

2009-09-15 Thread Kirk McLoren
Is our friend still on the list that moved to Spain after retirement?
Would like some info on the paint he wrote about.
Kirk

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[Biofuel] eye opener

2009-09-14 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

very informing 


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Re: [Biofuel] eye opener

2009-09-14 Thread Kirk McLoren


It is a lecture by a law professor backed up with a detective in the second 
half. Basically it is to convince you to not talk to the police if you value 
your freedom. Not guilty so why worry? Wrong answer. You better worry.
Kirk

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] eye opener
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 11:45 AM

:-(

Once again...

Aarghh!!! YouTube! 48 min 39 sec!

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

very informing

But your post isn't. Sorry, but it ain't enough.

 From a recent discussion here with you:

YouTube is useful, but IMHO it needs some value-added, some
assessment, not just a link and three or four words. People are busy,
they should have some idea of what they're in for. Why is it
interesting/useful/funny/ridiculous/outrageous/whatever? Something
like a mini movie review, one pithy paragraph would do.

Your reply:

Yeah Keith but when you reply we get some meat.

And mine:

I'm not willing to do it for you, I really, really, don't have the 
time, and there's no need anyway. Do it yourself, first, before 
posting, it's your obligation.

See (please!):

http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg74520.html
Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package
2009/09/08

http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg74527.html
Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package
2009/09/08

Keith


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[Biofuel] magnetic field on aluminum

2009-09-13 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0YCTwWvykw

Any idea why this difference? In the eddy current equations there is nothing 
about polarity
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Re: [Biofuel] magnetic field on aluminum

2009-09-13 Thread Kirk McLoren
The pull is so weak a compass  takes some time for the needle to steady. Also 
the needle has to be very free to respond at all.
Seems like too weak a force to be the cause.
Kirk


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From: doug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] magnetic field on aluminum
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 11:41 AM

Kirk McLoren wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0YCTwWvykw

 Any idea why this difference? In the eddy current equations there is nothing 
 about polarity
the reason is given in the comments below the video, having to do with 
the earth's magnetic fields...

The actual cause of this effect was later determined to be the Earth's 
magnetic field.
Because I live around 45 degrees north latitude, the magnet pull on the 
north magnets pole is mainly downward toward the ground. This additional 
pull is very strong and simply causes the? north pole of the magnet to 
tend to rotate downward more than the south pole.
This effect would change depending on where you live on the Earth.


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[Biofuel] 10, 000 pieces of gold for Ali Baba - scratch that - Al Qaeda and minions

2009-09-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1468187#i


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[Biofuel] Six Kamchatka Volcanoes Exhibit Activity Simultaneously

2009-09-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://vostokmedia.com/n53589.html

Six Kamchatka Volcanoes Exhibit Activity Simultaneously For the First Time in 
Sixty Years



11:49, 24.08.2009



The Gorely volcano may soon erupt 

PETROPAVLOVSK-KAMCHATSKY. August 24. VOSTOK-MEDIA – For the first time
in sixty years six Kamchatka volcanoes exhibit activity simultaneously.
They are Koryaksky, Shiveluch, Bezimyanny, Gorely, Karymsky volcanoes
and Klyuchevskaya Sopka Volcano. All of them spout steam and gas almost 
simultaneously. 



“This is a rarity. For the first time in sixty years the six volcanoes show 
activity,”
Kamchatka scientists from the Institute of Volcanology and Seismology
stated. At present they are trying to figure out the reasons behind the
increase of activity of the Kamchatka volcanoes. Experts assure that
the volcanoes pose no hazard to life for the time being. But the gas
and vapor releases do threaten the aviation. 



For the time being only Shiveluch of all other active volcanoes poses a
threat. The volcanic vent is full-brimmed with viscous lava. Scientists
agree that Gorely volcano might soon erupt for the first time in twenty
two years. Water temperature of the lake located on top of the volcanic
mountain is rising, which may well indicate oncoming eruption. The
1829-meter high Gorely volcano is located 75 km from
Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, reported Radio 3 station.
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Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event

2009-09-11 Thread Kirk McLoren


why didnt they say what rhe red non ironoxide stuff is
Thermite is iron oxide and aluminum flakes. when hot enough it snags the oxygen 
from the iron oxde forming aluminum oxide and molten iron.
simple stuff really

--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Guag Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Guag Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 
9/11 was Staged Event
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 7:44 PM

Hi All ;

Here is link to the official lab report from Netherlands which found super 
thermite in WTC dust.  Free download.  Anyone technical will appreciate the 
attention to detail and thoroughness of this report.  It certainly raises some 
disturbing questions.

http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCPJ/2009/0002/0001/7TOCPJ.SGM

BR
Peter G.
Thailand
www.gac-seeds.com

--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 
 9/11 was Staged Event
 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
 Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 12:56 PM
 Hi Chris
 
 i think you hit the nail, david.  i remember i
 called in sick that day
 and slept in.  when i rolled out of bed and turned
 on the tube, saw
 those endlessly repeating videos plastered over fvery
 channel.  the
 very first thing that crossed my mind was that suddenly
 the whole
 business in florida, dragging in the supreme court, it
 all made sense.
   there's a lot of questions that need answering,
 and a lot to be
 answered for wrt the events of that day (well, a lot of
 other days,
 too).  whether the buildings went down on their
 own, or needed a
 little extra help, is kind of beside the point. 
 [btw, my apologies if
 i'm repeating myself here, i thought i said the above
 yesterday but
 the comment seems to be missing from the thread. . .
 .]
 
 I read it, it's here:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg74540.html
 Chris Burck
 Wed, 09 Sep 2009
 
 Best
 
 Keith
 
    I'm not suggesting that some agency wasn't
 aware of what was about to
   happen, and they could have used it to bury
 records in WTC7, it's just that
   I'm not convinced that the two main
 buildings were brought down by anything
   other than the planes. If you think
 otherwise, please include the fact that
   the buildings fell from the point of impact
 into your theory.
 
    David
 
 
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Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event

2009-09-10 Thread Kirk McLoren
 samples
of the steel. The rest was destroyed. However, physical evidence did remain:
the dust. NIST did not look at the dust, but independent investigators did..
They discovered, along with the microspheres, tiny red-grey chips. They
examined samples of WTC dust from different parts of Manhattan. All
contained the red-gray chips. They found that the red layer consisted of
unignited nano-thermite. Ordinary thermite is an incendiary: it can burn
through heavy steel in seconds. The tiny particles in nano-thermite (1/1000
the thickness of a human hair) causes a much faster reaction so it can be
used as a high explosive. The discovery of nano-thermite in the WTC dust was
published in The Open Chemical Physics Journal in April 2009.


Hundreds of Red/Grey chips of “Unignited thermite” in every WTC Dust sample


Nano-thermite particle sizes are 1,000 times smaller than a human hair. This
material is not made in a cave in Afghanistan.

These scientists found not just a smoking gun, but a loaded gun.

Independent lines of evidence prove the official government claims are
impossible. We see our role at AE911Truth as exposing the evidence official
agencies and the corporate media are covering up. Following up on the
implications is the responsibility of every citizen. Every citizen must face
his or her own conscience when confronting these difficult facts --
especially when we consider that 9/11 is the foundation for two wars, the
launching of an endless war on terror, and the loss of our freedoms due to
legislation pushed through amid the fog of war.



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To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States
9/11 was Staged Event


It proves explosives were in the building which isnt easy to do like parking
a vehicle in the street. Federal buildings have security.
The conspirators deny as a matter of policy. Nixon was the mile marker in
that league.

Anyone familiar with explosives can attest to that. It really is simple
Push on something - where does it go? When an explosive turns into a gas it
creates a high pressure area and applies force to whatever obstructs it.
That force is outward from the center. The gvt story would have us believe
rubble flew 180 degrees from the thrust, ie into the thrust. impossible.


--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States
9/11 was Staged Event
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 8:08 AM

   Got any
facts rather than just claims and opinions and assertions? I mean,
got any that someone like me will accept as facts?

Sure. Anyone who has ever seen the results of an explosion knows
that the official story is fantasy. Photographs show rubble from the
building thrown across the street, past where the truck was parked.
There would be no rubble there if the only blast was the truck.
Blast from the truck would send rubble away from the truck and yet
we find it on the side away from the building. Explosives are
required to be in the building  to send rubble in the other
direction. Simple physics.

And the other side? What does the opposite camp say? Or do all agree
that those are simple facts of simple physics? Obviously not, eh, or
it wouldn't be a controversy, if it's really a controversy rather
than just fringe stuff. Anyway, does the opposition agree it's just
simple physics?

Say they do. The following question would be, and so? What does it
prove? What's the favoured conclusion (both sides - or all sides, I
guess there's more than two)?

Keith


Kirk

The eyes see what the mind knows


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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence
Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:52 AM

   No, he is outside the expectation of a military officer. Just too
free a spirit perhaps.

More like a deluded one perhaps, or a somewhat deranged one perhaps.

Let's put it this way: it's sheer BS, it shouldn't even have been posted.

Who else retired would step up to the plate

No need to put it quite so nobly. Step up with what, is the question.
Stepping up with fact-free conspiracisms and perhaps not being very
honest about it isn't a contribution to anything other than confusion.

   - well maybe Benton K. Partin Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret..) 8908
Captains Row Alexandria, Virginia 22308 703-780-7652.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htmhttp://wh
atreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm
oklahoma bombing

My word, Kirk, you will have your conspiracies won't you. Got any
facts rather than just claims and opinions

Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event

2009-09-09 Thread Kirk McLoren
Got any 
facts rather than just claims and opinions and assertions? I mean, 
got any that someone like me will accept as facts?

Sure. Anyone who has ever seen the results of an explosion knows that the 
official story is fantasy. Photographs show rubble from the building thrown 
across the street, past where the truck was parked. There would be no rubble 
there if the only blast was the truck. Blast from the truck would send rubble 
away from the truck and yet we find it on the side away from the building. 
Explosives are required to be in the building  to send rubble in the other 
direction. Simple physics.

Kirk

The eyes see what the mind knows


--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 
9/11 was Staged Event
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:52 AM

No, he is outside the expectation of a military officer. Just too 
free a spirit perhaps.

More like a deluded one perhaps, or a somewhat deranged one perhaps.

Let's put it this way: it's sheer BS, it shouldn't even have been posted.

Who else retired would step up to the plate

No need to put it quite so nobly. Step up with what, is the question. 
Stepping up with fact-free conspiracisms and perhaps not being very 
honest about it isn't a contribution to anything other than confusion.

  - well maybe Benton K. Partin Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.) 8908 
Captains Row Alexandria, Virginia 22308 703-780-7652.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm
oklahoma bombing

My word, Kirk, you will have your conspiracies won't you. Got any 
facts rather than just claims and opinions and assertions? I mean, 
got any that someone like me will accept as facts? The list itself is 
the same, it has a long and honorable tradition of being rigorous, as 
you know. We're quite happy to explore possibilities or we wouldn't 
have achieved what we have, but sheer conjecture dressed up as fact 
isn't included.

Partin was a research scientist - invented the continuous rod warhead.
very qualified guy.

Made bombs, nice. Couldn't we have done without more and better bombs?

Best

Keith


Kirk

The eyes see what the mind knows


--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence 
Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM

The stargate project was spook remote viewing.

Does spook mean spy or ghost, in this context?

Stargate was devoted to **psychic** remote viewing, the purported
ability to psychically 'see' events, sites, or information from a
great distance. Bit superfluous to say it wasn't exactly successful.
Echelon works at least, on the other hand, for instance, as opposed
to pixie dust.

CIA put effort into it.

I know, but I don't think that gives it much cred. The Soviets tried
it too, that's why the US tried it. It achieved nothing.

Not as woo woo as you might think.

Totally woo woo, IMHO, just as I thought.

Sure, maybe some people are psychic or clairvoyant or even
telepathic, maybe everybody is, or could be, maybe that's how the
whole biosphere really works, who knows, but trying to use
clairvoyance as a reliable technique for intelligence gathering or to
support conspiracy theories is ludicrous.

Wikipedia will do, very easy, no need to go any further:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

Anyway, is this to suggest that a wacko like long-retired ex-Major
General Stubblebine has some credibility with his 9/11 conspiracy
theories, or with anything else? Because of Stargate?

Stubblebine was forced to retire in 1984 and was replaced because of
his obsession with the paranormal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Major_General_Albert_Stubblebine

Not very surprising - The primary mission of military intelligence
in the United States Army is to provide timely, relevant, accurate,
and synchronized intelligence and electronic warfare support to
tactical, operational and strategic-level commanders. Not a trivial
matter. If you were a field commander would you want someone like
Stubblebine doing that job for you?

How do you explain the deception in the YouTube title?

    The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically
    States 9/11 was Staged Event.
   ...
    Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army
   intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same
    thing eh.
    ...
    Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate?

Hey, Kirk, do some checking first, will you, please?

Best

Keith


Kirk

The eyes see what the mind knows

  
--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 

Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event

2009-09-09 Thread Kirk McLoren

It proves explosives were in the building which isnt easy to do like parking a 
vehicle in the street. Federal buildings have security.
The conspirators deny as a matter of policy. Nixon was the mile marker in that 
league.

Anyone familiar with explosives can attest to that. It really is simple
Push on something - where does it go? When an explosive turns into a gas it 
creates a high pressure area and applies force to whatever obstructs it. That 
force is outward from the center. The gvt story would have us believe rubble 
flew 180 degrees from the thrust, ie into the thrust. impossible.


--- On Wed, 9/9/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 
9/11 was Staged Event
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 8:08 AM

  Got any
facts rather than just claims and opinions and assertions? I mean,
got any that someone like me will accept as facts?

Sure. Anyone who has ever seen the results of an explosion knows 
that the official story is fantasy. Photographs show rubble from the 
building thrown across the street, past where the truck was parked. 
There would be no rubble there if the only blast was the truck. 
Blast from the truck would send rubble away from the truck and yet 
we find it on the side away from the building. Explosives are 
required to be in the building  to send rubble in the other 
direction. Simple physics.

And the other side? What does the opposite camp say? Or do all agree 
that those are simple facts of simple physics? Obviously not, eh, or 
it wouldn't be a controversy, if it's really a controversy rather 
than just fringe stuff. Anyway, does the opposition agree it's just 
simple physics?

Say they do. The following question would be, and so? What does it 
prove? What's the favoured conclusion (both sides - or all sides, I 
guess there's more than two)?

Keith


Kirk

The eyes see what the mind knows


--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence 
Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 8:52 AM

  No, he is outside the expectation of a military officer. Just too
free a spirit perhaps.

More like a deluded one perhaps, or a somewhat deranged one perhaps.

Let's put it this way: it's sheer BS, it shouldn't even have been posted.

Who else retired would step up to the plate

No need to put it quite so nobly. Step up with what, is the question.
Stepping up with fact-free conspiracisms and perhaps not being very
honest about it isn't a contribution to anything other than confusion.

   - well maybe Benton K. Partin Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.) 8908
Captains Row Alexandria, Virginia 22308 703-780-7652.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htmhttp://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm
oklahoma bombing

My word, Kirk, you will have your conspiracies won't you. Got any
facts rather than just claims and opinions and assertions? I mean,
got any that someone like me will accept as facts? The list itself is
the same, it has a long and honorable tradition of being rigorous, as
you know. We're quite happy to explore possibilities or we wouldn't
have achieved what we have, but sheer conjecture dressed up as fact
isn't included.

Partin was a research scientist - invented the continuous rod warhead.
very qualified guy.

Made bombs, nice. Couldn't we have done without more and better bombs?

Best

Keith


Kirk

The eyes see what the mind knows


--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison 
/mc/[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

From: Keith Addison 
/mc/[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence
Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
To: /mc/[EMAIL PROTECTED]biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM

The stargate project was spook remote viewing.

Does spook mean spy or ghost, in this context?

Stargate was devoted to **psychic** remote viewing, the purported
ability to psychically 'see' events, sites, or information from a
great distance. Bit superfluous to say it wasn't exactly successful.
Echelon works at least, on the other hand, for instance, as opposed
to pixie dust.

CIA put effort into it.

I know, but I don't think that gives it much cred. The Soviets tried
it too, that's why the US tried it. It achieved nothing.

Not as woo woo as you might think.

Totally woo woo, IMHO, just as I thought.
  
Sure, maybe some people are psychic or clairvoyant or even
  telepathic, maybe everybody is, or could be, maybe that's how the
whole biosphere really works, who knows, but trying to use
clairvoyance as a reliable technique for intelligence gathering or to
support conspiracy theories is ludicrous.

Wikipedia will do, very easy, no need to go any further:

Re: [Biofuel] Your taxes at work (oink alert)

2009-09-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
A comment by spoz22
Anyone who has loyalty to either party is wasting their time. There's
white collar criminals all around us. I say if you can't beat 'em join
'em. Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, in our own little ways
we've all sold our souls at one point, so don't cast a stone because
someone has done it on a more grand scale than you.

This airport is the poster child for social irresponsibility.
Only in America
sigh

Kirk

The eyes see what the mind knows


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From: Duncan Long [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Your taxes at work (oink alert)
To: 
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:38 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzNj0Vobss
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Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event

2009-09-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
No, he is outside the expectation of a military officer. Just too free a spirit 
perhaps. Who else retired would step up to the plate - well maybe Benton K. 
Partin Brigadier Gen. USAF (Ret.) 8908 Captains Row Alexandria, Virginia 22308 
703-780-7652.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/okm.htm
oklahoma bombing

Partin was a research scientist - invented the continuous rod warhead.
very qualified guy.
Kirk

The eyes see what the mind knows


--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 
9/11 was Staged Event
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM

The stargate project was spook remote viewing.

Does spook mean spy or ghost, in this context?

Stargate was devoted to **psychic** remote viewing, the purported 
ability to psychically 'see' events, sites, or information from a 
great distance. Bit superfluous to say it wasn't exactly successful. 
Echelon works at least, on the other hand, for instance, as opposed 
to pixie dust.

CIA put effort into it.

I know, but I don't think that gives it much cred. The Soviets tried 
it too, that's why the US tried it. It achieved nothing.

Not as woo woo as you might think.

Totally woo woo, IMHO, just as I thought.

Sure, maybe some people are psychic or clairvoyant or even 
telepathic, maybe everybody is, or could be, maybe that's how the 
whole biosphere really works, who knows, but trying to use 
clairvoyance as a reliable technique for intelligence gathering or to 
support conspiracy theories is ludicrous.

Wikipedia will do, very easy, no need to go any further:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

Anyway, is this to suggest that a wacko like long-retired ex-Major 
General Stubblebine has some credibility with his 9/11 conspiracy 
theories, or with anything else? Because of Stargate?

Stubblebine was forced to retire in 1984 and was replaced because of 
his obsession with the paranormal. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project#Major_General_Albert_Stubblebine

Not very surprising - The primary mission of military intelligence 
in the United States Army is to provide timely, relevant, accurate, 
and synchronized intelligence and electronic warfare support to 
tactical, operational and strategic-level commanders. Not a trivial 
matter. If you were a field commander would you want someone like 
Stubblebine doing that job for you?

How do you explain the deception in the YouTube title?

   The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically
   States 9/11 was Staged Event.
  ...
   Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army
  intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same
   thing eh.
   ...
   Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate?

Hey, Kirk, do some checking first, will you, please?

Best

Keith


Kirk

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--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence 
Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 9:42 AM

No conspiracy was needed.

Bin Laden knew what the U.S. wanted: an excuse for U.S. armies in the
Middle East.

The U.S. knew what Bin Laden wanted first: a major strike at the U.S.,
by preference at the World Trade centre (they had tried before, and it
was highly symbolic).

They differed on what the result of U.S. armies in the Middle East would
be. Points to Bin Laden.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada



Keith Addison wrote:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFP_zKYU3aENR=1

  Aarghh!! Youtube! Who's got 5 min 16 sec to spare?

  This is quicker...

   The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically
  States 9/11 was Staged Event.

   But is he the Head of US Military Intelligence? No.

  It takes only the first 5 sec of Youtube for him to state that his
   name is Major General Albert Stubblebine, and another 10 sec to find
  this at wikipedia:

  Major General Albert Bert N. Stubblebine III was the commanding
  general of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command
  from 1981 to 1984, when he retired from the Army. He is known for his
  interest in parapsychology and was a supporter of the Stargate
  Project.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine

  Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army
  intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same
   thing eh.

  (Walked through any walls lately Bert?)

  That saved 5 min 1 sec, and gave a much better result.

  Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate?
  
  Matthew Rothschild of the Progressive again: Enough of the 9/11
  Conspiracy Theories, Already http://www.alternet.org/story/41601/

  If it doesn't start off with the preferred 

Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package

2009-09-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
Yeah Keith but when you reply we get some meat.
Maybe you dont fully realize how unusual you are.
You surpass my best efforts in your sleep.
I saw that video and was a bit overwhelmed. 
Makes sense somebody paid for it - was well done.
Not an amateur effort.
Kirk

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--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:11 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyAeurl=http%3A%2F%2F

quite a presentation
Kirk

Aarghh!! 6 min 35 secs!

So what should we do, round up all the immigrants and aliens and put 
them in death camps or what? Opt for the military solution? Is that 
what the real Tom Payne would have thought?

Anyway, I wouldn't call it a presentation, it's a production, with a 
script. Do you think the guy in the video wrote the script? If not 
then who did write it? Whoever, it doesn't come cheap. How often do 
you see production values like that on YouTube? Wouldn't it be an 
idea to follow the money, or at least look with some suspicion at 
what all that money paid for? Here again, something pretending to be 
what it's not, and it's obvious. We the people my ass.

The person pretending to be Tom Payne is Bob Basso, an 
actor/presenter who's up for commercial hire. 
http://www.bobbasso.com/ His (?) YouTube offerings created some 
minor flurry when he first uploaded them six months ago.

This should take less than 6 min 35 secs to read: 
http://moonslurpies.blogspot.com/2009/03/real-revolution-or-tom-paine-is-fake.html
THURSDAY, MARCH 26, 2009
Tom Paine is a Psyop

Indeed.

YouTube is useful, but IMHO it needs some value-added, some 
assessment, not just a link and three or four words. People are busy, 
they should have some idea of what they're in for. Why is it 
interesting/useful/funny/ridiculous/outrageous/whatever? Something 
like a mini movie review, one pithy paragraph would do.

Best

Keith


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[Biofuel] Fw: [Longevity] HIN1 is probably from a laboratory says NEJM

2009-09-08 Thread Kirk McLoren
so they finally admit it.
Kirk

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Longevity] HIN1 is probably from a laboratory says NEJM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: AAR [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 5:25 AM

Source of HIN1 is probably a laboratory says New England Journal of Medicine

Monday, 07 September 2009 11:11

In a report that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine, scientists 
say that the reemergence of the H1N1 virus in 1977 is unexplained and 
probably represents reintroduction to humans from a laboratory source.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/NEJMra0904322

Figure 1. Emergence of Influenza A (H1N1) Viruses from Birds and Swine into 
Humans.

The diagram shows the important events and processes in the emergence of 
influenza A (H1N1) viruses during the past 91 years. Avian, swine, and human 
populations are represented in the top, middle, and bottom of the diagram, 
respectively. Epidemic or zoonotic viruses are shown as wide horizontal 
arrows (white for avian viruses, light blue or pink for swine viruses, and 
dark blue for human viruses). Cross-species transmissions are shown as 
vertical dashed lines, with thick lines for transfers that gave rise to 
sustained transmission in the new host and thin lines for those that were 
transient and resulted in a self-limited number of cases. Principal dates 
are shown along the bottom of the diagram. The disappearance of H1N1 in 1957 
most likely represents competition by the emerging pandemic H2N2 strain in 
the face of population immunity to H1N1. The reemergence in 1977 is 
unexplained and probably represents reintroduction to humans from a 
laboratory source.


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[Biofuel] Brown Shirts?

2009-09-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
The FBI Deputizes Business

By Matthew Rothschild, March 2008 Issue 

23,000 Businesspeople Get Threat Info from FBI Before Public. In Turn,
They Supply Tips to FBI. Two Members of Private Sector Group Say They
Have “Shoot to Kill” Permission in Emergency. These are the astonishing
findings in Rothschild's cover story of the March issue of The
Progressive.Today, more than 23,000 representatives of private industry
are working quietly with the FBI and the Department of Homeland
Security. The members of this rapidly growing group, called InfraGard,
receive secret warnings of terrorist threats before the public
does—and, at least on one occasion, before elected officials. In
return, they provide information to the government, which alarms the
ACLU. But there may be more to it than that. One business executive,
who showed me his InfraGard card, told me they have permission to
“shoot to kill” in the event of martial law…

 [link to www.progressive.org] 

 [link to www.nym-infragard.us] 




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[Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event

2009-09-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFP_zKYU3aENR=1


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Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event

2009-09-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
The stargate project was spook remote viewing. CIA put effort into it.
Not as woo woo as you might think.
Kirk

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--- On Mon, 9/7/09, Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Douglas Woodard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 
9/11 was Staged Event
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 9:42 AM

No conspiracy was needed.

Bin Laden knew what the U.S. wanted: an excuse for U.S. armies in the 
Middle East.

The U.S. knew what Bin Laden wanted first: a major strike at the U.S., 
by preference at the World Trade centre (they had tried before, and it 
was highly symbolic).

They differed on what the result of U.S. armies in the Middle East would 
be. Points to Bin Laden.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada



Keith Addison wrote:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFP_zKYU3aENR=1
 
 Aarghh!! Youtube! Who's got 5 min 16 sec to spare?
 
 This is quicker...
 
 The headline says: U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically 
 States 9/11 was Staged Event.
 
 But is he the Head of US Military Intelligence? No.
 
 It takes only the first 5 sec of Youtube for him to state that his 
 name is Major General Albert Stubblebine, and another 10 sec to find 
 this at wikipedia:
 
 Major General Albert Bert N. Stubblebine III was the commanding 
 general of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command 
 from 1981 to 1984, when he retired from the Army. He is known for his 
 interest in parapsychology and was a supporter of the Stargate 
 Project.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Stubblebine
 
 Ah, so he WAS a major general once, and indeed head of army 
 intelligence, but he retired **25 years ago**. Not quite the same 
 thing eh.
 
 (Walked through any walls lately Bert?)
 
 That saved 5 min 1 sec, and gave a much better result.
 
 Why the misleading headline? Not deliberate?
 
 Matthew Rothschild of the Progressive again: Enough of the 9/11 
 Conspiracy Theories, Already http://www.alternet.org/story/41601/
 
 If it doesn't start off with the preferred conclusion-of-choice and 
 then go in search of the facts to prove it, but instead simply 
 goes in search of facts, along with all the patient and careful 
 cross-checking that takes, and then emerges with a fact-based 
 conclusion that checks out, or even with just some hard facts without 
 a conclusion... well then, that's different. But AFAIK it hasn't 
 happened yet, and don't hold yer breath.
 
 Best
 
 Keith

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[Biofuel] We The People Stimulus Package

2009-09-07 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyAeurl=http%3A%2F%2F

quite a presentation
Kirk

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[Biofuel] 500 nations

2009-09-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6736846601041698993


here is a pretty good account of the Native Americans, 8 hrsso get some 
snacks and have a great day



500 Nations



! Enjoy



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[Biofuel] If you catch the flu

2009-09-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucolytic_agent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaifenesin

The danger is pneumonia and an expectorant can help prevent that.
I would appreciate herbal knowledge in this regard

Thanks 
Kirk

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[Biofuel] 28

2009-09-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#4AIQpF/www.metacafe.com/watch/1744959/easy_math//


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[Biofuel] Not exactly Mayberry

2009-09-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/090903/world/us_shot_in_court


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[Biofuel] thimerosal

2009-09-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
“You couldn’t even construct a study that shows thimerosal is safe,”
says Haley, who heads the chemistry department at the University of
Kentucky. “It’s just too darn toxic. If you inject thimerosal into an
animal, its brain will sicken. If you apply it to living tissue, the
cells die. If you put it in a petri dish, the culture dies. Knowing
these things, it would be shocking if one could inject it into an
infant without causing damage.”

http://www.pandemicfluonline.com/?p=510
Vaccinations: Deadly Immunity, by Robert F. Kennedy, jr.



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[Biofuel] fish in decline

2009-09-03 Thread Kirk McLoren


http://oceanacidification.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/3-major-reports-paint-same-picture-ocean-fish-are-rapidly-in-decline/







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[Biofuel] WHO ignores scientific evidence, says The Lancet

2009-09-02 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=466%3


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[Biofuel] why things are the way they are

2009-09-02 Thread Kirk McLoren
GEORGE CARLIN - Who Owns You Americans  
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2011028/george_carlin_who_owns_you_americans/


George tells it like it is. 
He is missed.
Kirk

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[Biofuel] Fw: [Longevity] Historical facts about the dangers (and failures) of vaccines

2009-09-01 Thread Kirk McLoren
another nice compilation
Kirk


--- On Tue, 9/1/09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Subject: [Longevity] Historical facts about the dangers (and failures) of 
vaccines
To: 
Cc: AAR [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 8:21 AM


Historical facts about the dangers (and failures) of vaccines
On November 2nd, 2000, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons 
(AAPS) announced that its members voted at their 57th annual meeting in St 
Louis to pass a resolution calling for an end to mandatory childhood 
vaccines. The resolution passed without a single no vote.

Saturday, August 29, 2009 by: Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews 
Editor
http://www.naturalnews.com/026940_vaccines_vaccination_health.html

(NaturalNews) Vaccines are the quackery of modern medicine. Mass vaccination 
programs not only fail to protect the population from infectious disease, 
they actually accelerate the spread of disease in many cases.

Many website have cropped up over the last few years to counter the 
pro-vaccine propaganda put out by drug companies (who profit from vaccines) 
and health regulators (who serve the drug companies). One of those sites is 
www.VaccinationDebate.com , which lists the following historical facts about 
vaccines:

.. In the USA in 1960, two virologists discovered that both polio vaccines 
were contaminated with the SV 40 virus which causes cancer in animals as 
well as changes in human cell tissue cultures. Millions of children had been 
injected with these vaccines. (Med Jnl of Australia 17/3/1973 p555)

.. In 1871-2, England, with 98% of the population aged between 2 and 50 
vaccinated against smallpox, it experienced its worst ever smallpox outbreak 
with 45,000 deaths. During the same period in Germany, with a vaccination 
rate of 96%, there were over 125,000 deaths from smallpox. 
(http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/020...)
The Hadwen Documents

.. In Germany, compulsory mass vaccination against diphtheria commenced in 
1940 and by 1945 diphtheria cases were up from 40,000 to 250,000. (Don't Get 
Stuck, Hannah Allen)

.. In 1967, Ghana was declared measles free by the World Health Organisation 
after 96% of its population was vaccinated. In 1972, Ghana experienced one 
of its worst measles outbreaks with its highest ever mortality rate. (Dr H 
Albonico, MMR Vaccine Campaign in Switzerland, March 1990)

.. In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified 
along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the 
cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77 
Abstracts )

.. In the UK between 1970 and 1990, over 200,000 cases of whooping cough 
occurred in fully vaccinated children. (Community Disease Surveillance 
Centre, UK)

.. In the 1970's a tuberculosis vaccine trial in India involving 260,000 
people revealed that more cases of TB occurred in the vaccinated than the 
unvaccinated. (The Lancet 12/1/80 p73)

.. In 1978, a survey of 30 States in the US revealed that more than half of 
the children who contracted measles had been adequately vaccinated. (The 
People's Doctor, Dr R Mendelsohn)

.. The February 1981 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association 
found that 90% of obstetricians and 66% of pediatricians refused to take the 
rubella vaccine.

.. In 1979, Sweden abandoned the whooping cough vaccine due to its 
ineffectiveness. Out of 5,140 cases in 1978, it was found that 84% had been 
vaccinated three times! (BMJ 283:696-697, 1981)

.. In the USA, the cost of a single DPT shot had risen from 11 cents in 1982 
to $11.40 in 1987. The manufacturers of the vaccine were putting aside $8 
per shot to cover legal costs and damages they were paying out to parents of 
brain damaged children and children who died after vaccination. (The Vine, 
Issue 7, January 1994, Nambour, Qld)

.. In Oman between 1988 and 1989, a polio outbreak occurred amongst thousands 
of fully vaccinated children. The region with the highest attack rate had 
the highest vaccine coverage. The region with the lowest attack rate had the 
lowest vaccine coverage. (The Lancet, 21/9/91)

.. In 1990, a UK survey involving 598 doctors revealed that over 50% of them 
refused to have the Hepatitis B vaccine despite belonging to the high risk 
group urged to be vaccinated. (British Med Jnl, 27/1/1990)

.. In the USA, from July 1990 to November 1993, the US Food and Drug 
Administration counted a total of 54,072 adverse reactions following 
vaccination. The FDA admitted that this number represented only 10% of the 
real total, because most doctors were refusing to report vaccine injuries. 
In other words, adverse reactions for this period exceeded half a million! 
(National Vaccine Information Centre, March 2, 1994)

.. In 1990, the Journal of the American Medical Association had an article on 
measles which stated  Although more than 95% of school-aged children 

[Biofuel] Seed vault in Arctic

2009-08-31 Thread Kirk McLoren

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=vaaid=7529

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[Biofuel] quite a compilation

2009-08-31 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://engforum.pravda.ru/showthread.php?t=259560


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[Biofuel] LAB ORIGINS OF THE 2009 NOVEL SWINE FLU

2009-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Z0oyKScOw


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Re: [Biofuel] Ring Them Bells

2009-08-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
thank you - nice find

there are three things in life:
the words you say wrong, the words you say  right and the words you don´t say.

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Ring Them Bells
Bob Dylan
Oh Mercy (1989)

Ring them bells ye heathen from the city that dreams
Ring them bells from the sanctuaries 'cross the valleys and streams
For they're deep and they're wide
And the world's on its side
And time is running backwards and so is the bride

Ring them bells Saint Peter where the four winds blow
Ring them bells with an iron hand so the people will know
Oh it's rush hour now
On the wheel and the plow
And the sun is going down upon the sacred cow

Ring them bells sweet Martha for the poor man's son
Ring them bells so the world will know that God is one
For the shepherd is asleep
Where the willows weep
And the mountains are filled with lost sheep

Ring them bells for the blind and the deaf
Ring them bells for all of us who are left
Ring them bells for the chosen few
Who will judge the many
When the game is through
Ring them bells for the time that flies
For the child that cries
When innocence dies

Ring them bells Saint Catherine from the top of the room
Ring them from the fortress for the lilies that bloom
For the lines are long
And the fighting is strong
And they're breaking down the distance between right and wrong



Enter the code in the image and download the mp3, 4.1 Mb.
http://beemp3.com/download.php?file=4521708song=

Listen and delete.

All music on is presented only for fact-finding listening. You MUST 
remove a song from the computer after listening.

Fact-finding listening, right.

Best

Keith


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[Biofuel] An interesting speaker

2009-08-28 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfR03KsAA40feature=channel_page
Can Obama Save the Economy? Part 1This man talks to the heart of the problem.
Kirk



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[Biofuel] Measles deaths 1901 to vaccination

2009-08-26 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.whale.to/m/measlesdeaths1.html

The measles death decline graph provided shows that the measles vaccine had 
nothing to do with the decline in
deaths, and has not affected the number of children hospitalised during
epidemic years since its introduction.


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Re: [Biofuel] Game theory trumps everything...

2009-08-25 Thread Kirk McLoren
The people that plan these things make projections based on their own reality.
When you try to manipulate people that dont share your version it is easy to 
err.

Kirk



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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Game theory trumps everything...
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 11:45 AM

Or try a little hopelessness...

Weaponizing Psychology
Treating People Like Dogs
By Peter Chamberlin
August 24, 2009
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23355.htm

Hi Bob

The subject heading claims game theory trumps all.

Freud said it was sex. :-)

Does that include our
valiant attempts here to wean ourselves off fossil fuel? Are we just
whistling in the dark while the game players manipulate us?

It's scary stuff, but there's lots of scary stuff about these days,
many different brands.

IMHO it might help explain why Israel is being so overconfident and
in-your-face, if their game theorists keep telling them they'll get
away with it.

Do they really get away with it?

Meister games theorist Aumann won the Nobel Prize in 2005, and that's
also about when the AIPAC/Israel Lobby/whatever started losing its
death-grip on policy and public opinion in the US and the rest of the
Western world. (Remember the Oil and Israel thread?) Meanwhile
Jimmy Carter et al, Mearsheimer and Walt et al, and a rising tide of
critics have been joined by Jewish organisations in most Western
countries in opposing colonial Zionism, the Western media publish
reports and views on Israel and Palestine that wouldn't have seen the
light of day five years ago, and the American public was (is) just as
outraged as everyone else by last year's attack on Gaza. And so on
and on, wherever you look, cracks in the concrete.

Nonetheless, so far, they got away with it, they didn't have to pay
yet. Maybe the Israeli strategists share Dick Cheney's opinion of
public opinion. He didn't pay yet either. But would you like to be
Dick Cheney?

Anyway, even if they really are both winning and getting away with
it, they're only sowing dragon's teeth.

Manipulating us, I don't think so. Try this though...

Manufacturing Poor People
By Vi Ransel
6/18/09
http://thomaspainescorner.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/manufacturing-poor-people/

Best

Keith


How Israel Wages Game Theory
http://intifada-palestine.com/2009/08/20/how-israel-wages-game-theory-warfa
re/  Warfare

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[Biofuel] hole in earth's shield

2009-08-23 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPLjnqS8UeY

was watching a tv show last night they said a magnetic storm /coronal mass 
ejection in 1859 was so powerful that if it happened now it would take months 
to get the grid back up due to transformer loss. Much much bigger than the one 
that took Quebec Hydro down. This is amplified by the decline in the earth's 
magnetic field.
All sorts of good news :(

The true perfection of man lies not in what man has, but in what man is.

Eyes are blind. You have to look with the heart.  What's most important is 
invisible.
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[Biofuel] become a farmer

2009-08-20 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xAeEJIsci0NR=1

 
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[Biofuel] lest you doubt 9-11 was an inside job

2009-08-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0907/S00124.htm


 
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[Biofuel] Depopulation? In their own words

2009-08-16 Thread Kirk McLoren











Depopulation? Several Globalists in Their Own 
Words




 Is there motive and intent that can be gleaned from the words of
several global leaders? Perhaps, the best way to answer this question
is to look for consistent patterns in the quotes of several global
leaders, themselves.








Society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind


—Theodore Roosevelt







 Malthus has been vindicated; reality is finally catching up with
Malthus. The Third World is overpopulated, it’s an economic mess, and
there’s no way they could get out of it with this fast-growing
population. Our philosophy is: back to the village.


—Dr. Arne Schiotz, World Wildlife Fund Director of Conservation, stated 
such, ironically, in 1984:








“A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from 
present levels, would be ideal.


—Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine







 “There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce
population levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean
methods, or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El
Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem.
Once population is out of control, it requires authoritarian
government, even fascism, to reduce it…. 

“Our program in El Salvador didn’t work. The infrastructure was not
there to support it. There were just too goddamned many people…. To
really reduce population, quickly, you have to pull all the males into
the fighting and you have to kill significant numbers of fertile age
females…. The quickest way to reduce population is through famine,
like in Africa, or through disease like the Black Death….


—Thomas Ferguson, State Department Office of Population Affairs







 A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the
population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people We
must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the
cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently
brutal and heartless decisions.


—Stanford Professor  Paul Ehrlich in The Population Bomb







 In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000
people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad
not to say it.


—J. Cousteau, 1991 explorer and UNESCO courier







 I believe that human overpopulation is the fundamental problem on
Earth Today and, We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox.


—Dave Foreman, Sierra Club and co founder of Earth First!







 We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about
abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological
crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90%
and there aren't enough people left to do a great deal of ecological
damage.


—Mikhail Gorbachev







 Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los
Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is
especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat
from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very
existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to
deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the
unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be
willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to
them by the World Government.


—Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991








The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.


—Dr. Henry Kissinger New York Times, Oct. 28, 1973







 Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy
towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and
increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less
developed countries..


—Dr. Henry Kissinger








“Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac,” and “The elderly are useless eaters”


—Dr. Henry Kissinger








“World population needs to be decreased by 50%”


—Dr. Henry Kissinger







 We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is
the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World
Order.


—David Rockefeller







 “War and famine would not do. Instead, disease offered the most
efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if
the population crisis is to be solved. AIDS is not an efficient killer
because it is too slow. My favorite candidate for eliminating 90
percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston),
because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of
years. “We've got airborne diseases with 90 percent mortality in
humans. Killing humans. Think about that. “You know, the bird flu's
good, too. For everyone 

[Biofuel] dollar collapse immenent?

2009-08-14 Thread Kirk McLoren

The Chinese Gold Market
By Simon Black · 2 comments


I’ve
been spending a lot of time this week talking to my sources in China,
one of whom is inside one of the country’s sovereign wealth funds
(SWF).
He could not discuss the details of the Rio Tinto bribery scandal,
but indicated that it was far more about saving face and establishing
position than anything else.
He also indicated that the SWF analysts were working around the
clock trying to put deals together… for China it’s a race against the
clock for how fast they can convert their $2 trillion in US dollar
holdings into strategic assets– namely oil and gold.
At today’s deflated prices, putting together a really good billion
dollar deal is a difficult thing to do. Putting together 2,000 of them
is impossible.  Doing it before the dollar collapses? Not a Chinaman’s
chance. And they know it.
So as a hedge, the government appears to be pumping up demand for
gold and silver among the public, possibly preparing them for an
imminent dollar decline.
I asked Christine, my China insider you heard from last week, to
shed some light on the Chinese gold market to provide some clarity:



It’s funny you ask, I just got off the phone with one of the key executives at 
the Shanghai Gold Exchange.
You know, for the past 50 years, the Chinese government has
controlled the distribution of all types of gold. They dictated prices
and forbade citizens from owning or trading any type of precious metal.
It didn’t matter if you were an individual investor, a gold miner or a 
processor…it was state asset.
In 1959, if you were caught with gold in your possession you were
thrown in jail. The result of this policy has been widespread
indifference and very little understanding for precious metals as asset
class or sound money.
The government is now taking radical measures to change that.
Fast forward to 2009– the FIRST year that the Chinese public is
allowed to own physical gold or silver.  The government is now trying
to drum “gold/silver as an investment” into their heads at every corner.
Banking products, investment products, checking accounts linked to
gold.  In fact, Chinese have more precious metal investment options
than Americans, and the statistics are alarming:
In 1950, China had next to nothing in gold reserves. Today they rank
10th globally, and they are frantically mining for more on their own
soil.
For the past half a century, the Chinese had the lowest per capita
consumption of gold in the world. Next year, Chinese gold demand will
likely surpass that of India.
This year, the government banned silver from being exported… and by
July, it was being promoted as an “investment” to the Chinese public on
the 6 o’clock news.
You do the math– how does that affect global demand if just 10% of Chinese 
begin to perceive silver as an investment?
Will the Chinese turn into goldbugs overnight? No. Over the next 5 years? 
Probably, yes.
I like your long-term silver option strategy for this reason.  Even
the smallest shift in Chinese investor/consumer preferences can
dramatically alter global demand and commodity prices.
From what I’m seeing from the ground, the Chinese government is
engaging in one of the most explosive financial marketing campaigns in
history.  Instead of Maoist propaganda, though, they are attempting to
change the entire perception of  gold/silver in the Chinese public.
Simply put, the Chinese government is trying to trigger a national gold 
craze…and it’s working.
The Chinese public now has gold trading platforms on steroids.
You can buy silver bullion or gold bars at any Chinese bank in four
different sizes.  Wealth management products tied to gold are
skyrocketing in popularity, and the public can now instantly buy, sell,
and trade gold 24 hours a day in five different forms with different
eight types of services.
Also, for the first time in history, Chinese investors can even
trade gold abroad (in London) with the swipe of a “Lucky Gold” card.
I can’t even get Bank of America to open a foreign currency account.


http://www.sovereignman.com/finance/the-chinese-gold-market/



 
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[Biofuel] Chevy Volt

2009-08-13 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://greenfuelsforecast.com/ArticleDetails.php?articleID=737





Just in: Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Chilling stuff...

2009-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
Didnt Mussolini say Fascism is corporatism? I think their definition of truth 
is whatever they can get us to believe. Why else did they dumb our society down?

Kirk

Just in: Energizer Bunny arrested, charged with battery
 

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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 10:38 AM

Fascist America: Are We There Yet?
by Sara Robinson
Published on Sunday, August 9, 2009 by OurFuture.org
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/08/09-5

The Five Stages of Fascism
Robert O. Paxton
The Journal of Modern History, Vol. 70, No. 1. (Mar., 1998), pp. 1-23.
http://www.salemstate.edu/~cmauriello/pdfEuropean/Paxton_Five%20Stages%20of%20Fascism.pdf

Inside Story on Town Hall Riots: Right-Wing Shock Troops Do Corporate 
America's Dirty Work
By Adele M. Stan, AlterNet
Posted on August 10, 2009
http://www.alternet.org/story/141860/



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[Biofuel] Americans, stop your complacency

2009-08-10 Thread Kirk McLoren

maybe we need to open our windows...
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[Biofuel] tarred and feathered

2009-08-06 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-479146/Brutality-justice-The-truth-tarred-feathered-drug-dealer.html
 
 
 
 
 


 
They are so like children. 
We are not ... you big poopy-head.

 
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[Biofuel] sutton books online

2009-08-06 Thread Kirk McLoren





http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books.htm 







THE BEST ENEMY
MONEY CAN BUY
By
Antony C. Sutton


   







Wall Street and
the Rise of Hitler
By
Antony C. Sutton
  







Wall Street
and the
Bolshevik revolution
By
Antony C. Sutton


  








 


SRT Newsletters and miscellaneous






 

  





  




Calvinism in History, by Loraine Boettner 



 

  

  

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[Biofuel] Louise Fresco on feeding the whole world

2009-08-05 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.ted.com/talks/louise_fresco_on_feeding_the_whole_world.html
 
TED Talks are great!
Kirk
 
 
 


 
 Don't sneer at educated people, Mr. Wormwood. If you became ill, heaven 
forbid, your doctor would be a college graduate.
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Re: [Biofuel] 2 cent electricity

2009-08-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
nope - still in the lab, The physics is a bit esoteric as well. The people 
involved seem credentialed though.
 
All the best
Kirk

Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not - 
Jefferson

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http://www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-Intelligence-Examiner~y2009m8d2-Renewable-energy-source-takes-off-BlackLight-Power

Renewable energy source takes off: BlackLight Power, by Fred Burks, 
August 2, US Intelligence Examiner

... why haven't you heard about BlackLight Power and its highly 
unusual new energy resource? Could it be that the media and the 
global elite don't want people to know about energy sources which 
could seriously threaten the current oil-dominated energy economy?

Right, it's a plot by the global elite. That's a bit of a telltale. 
So many energy schemes say that, it's all a plot by whoever, and so 
many of them never seem to come to anything, and meanwhile there are 
real energy solutions that are working now, and with ne'er a claim 
about conspiracies and cover-ups. Which is not to say that there 
aren't any conspiracies and cover-ups, there most certainly are, 
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg10943.html 
eg, but still.

Fred Burks says it often:

Hundreds of military and government witnesses have gone on record 
claiming a major cover-up around UFOs. Among them are a former chief 
of the CIA, the former chiefs of defense of the UK and Canada, and 
two NASA astronauts, including Edgar Mitchell, the sixth man to walk 
on the moon. Could the moon landing video tapes have contained some 
images with UFOs or other images that they didn't want the public to 
see?
-- NASA Moon Landing Videos: The Mystery Deepens, by Fred Burks
http://www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-Intelligence-Examiner~y2009m7d16-NASA-Moon-Landing-Videos-The-Mystery-Deepens

Anyway, whether at 2 cents or whatever, one thing it doesn't seem to 
say is whether or not it's actually producing power, beyond the 
laboratory toy stage and licensing the rights and so on. Or did I get 
it all wrong. (I didn't read the PR puffs.)

Best

Keith


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[Biofuel] Fw: CIA director issues a warning to Congress

2009-08-04 Thread Kirk McLoren





wsws.org



CIA director issues a warning to Congress
4 August 2009

In an extraordinary column published Sunday in the Washington Post,  
the director of the CIA, Leon Panetta, issued a blunt warning to the  
US Congress to forego any investigation of the agency’s operations  
under the Bush administration.

“I’ve become increasingly concerned that the focus on the past,  
especially in Congress, threatens to distract the CIA from its  
crucial core missions: intelligence collection, analysis and covert  
action,” Panetta writes.

In other words, accounting for the crimes of the past must not be  
allowed to interfere with the crimes of the present and the future.

Panetta’s essay is ostensibly aimed at reforging what he sees as the  
proper relationship between an elected Congress and US imperialism’s  
powerful covert intelligence agency. Essentially, he argues that this  
relationship should be founded on “consensus”; i.e., Congress  
agreeing to the secret operations in which the CIA is engaged and  
keeping its mouth shut.

“We need broad agreement between the executive and legislative  
branches on what our intelligence organizations do and why,” Panetta  
writes. Presumably, he is referring to the bipartisan support that  
has long existed in Washington for crimes ranging from the  
assassination of popular leaders like Patrice Lumumba to the  
overthrow of elected governments in Iran, Guatemala, Chile and  
elsewhere, to the waging of covert wars from Nicaragua to Angola that  
claimed the lives of hundreds of thousands.

Panetta complains that the “consensus” has broken down as a result of  
policies carried out over the last eight years, citing in particular  
“the detention and interrogation of terrorists,” by which he means  
the abduction, arbitrary imprisonment, “extraordinary rendition,”  
torture and murder of thousands of individuals—most of them guilty of  
nothing—in the so-called “war on terrorism.”

The breakdown of consensus, he adds, has led to “growing frustration  
and more frequent leaks of properly classified information.”

What “properly classified information,” he doesn’t say. Among the  
leaks that have shaken the CIA in recent years were those dealing  
with its “black sites”—secret prisons scattered around the globe  
where people were subjected to torture—and the existence and  
destruction of videotapes showing CIA personnel engaged in torture.

The secrecy surrounding such practices was not a matter of the CIA  
having “properly classified information,” but rather its cover-up of  
crimes, which is itself a criminal offense.

Claiming that the CIA has abandoned the illegal policies carried out  
under the Bush administration, Panetta stresses that “the CIA  
implements presidential decisions; we do not make them.” He adds,  
“Yet my agency continues to pay a price for enduring disputes over  
policies that no longer exist.”

Torture, assassination and arbitrary detention are violations of both  
US and international law for which no one responsible has paid any  
price. The argument made by Panetta boils down to the defense made  
infamous during the Nuremberg war crimes trials at the close of World  
War II: “We were only following orders.”

Rejected then, it remains illegitimate today under international law,  
which also requires that governments prosecute citizens who are  
credibly charged with engaging in torture. President Obama—like his  
predecessor in the White House—has effectively repudiated the  
treaties on torture signed by Washington by publicly guaranteeing a  
blanket amnesty for the CIA.

But Panetta doesn’t stop at those at the CIA who were “following  
orders.” He makes it clear that impunity must be extended to those  
who gave the orders as well.

“The time has come for both Democrats and Republicans to take a deep  
breath and recognize the reality of what happened after Sept. 11,  
2001,” Panetta insists. “The question is not the sincerity or the  
patriotism of those who were dealing with the aftermath of Sept. 11.  
The country was frightened, and political leaders were trying to  
respond as best they could.”

What nonsense! Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others were not patriotic  
leaders “trying to respond as best they could” on behalf of a  
“frightened country.” They headed a conspiratorial cabal in the White  
House that used the attacks as a pretext to launch wars of aggression  
long in preparation against Afghanistan and Iraq—wars aimed not at  
protecting the American people, but asserting US hegemony over the  
oil-rich regions of Central Asia and the Persian Gulf.

They deliberately fomented and exploited fear to secure acquiescence  
to a policy of militarist violence abroad and far-ranging attacks on  
democratic rights at home.

What role the CIA itself played in allowing and even facilitating  
these attacks—attributed to the agency’s former “asset” Osama bin  
Laden—is no doubt another area of the past from which Panetta 

[Biofuel] 2 cent electricity

2009-08-03 Thread Kirk McLoren

http://www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-Intelligence-Examiner~y2009m8d2-Renewable-energy-source-takes-off-BlackLight-Power
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[Biofuel] medical volunteers in America

2009-08-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haIEXAb0PqoNR=1

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[Biofuel] 545 versus 300,000,000

2009-08-03 Thread Kirk McLoren










   545 vs 300,000,000 















 EVERY  CITIZEN NEEDS TO READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THIS JOURNALIST HAS  
SCRIPTED IN THIS MESSAGE.  READ IT  AND THEN REALLY THINK ABOUT  OUR CURRENT 
POLITICAL DEBACLE.

Charley  Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.






 

545  PEOPLE
By Charlie Reese

Politicians are the only people in the world  who create problems and then 
campaign against them..

Have you ever  wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against 
deficits, WHY do we have deficits?

Have you ever wondered, if  all the politicians are against inflation and high 
taxes, WHY do we have  inflation and high taxes?

You and I don't propose a federal budget.  The president does.

You and I don't have the  Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. 
The House of  Representatives does.

You and I don't write the tax code, Congress  does..

You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

You  and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve  Bank does.

One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one  president, and nine Supreme Court 
justices equates to 545 human  beings out of the 300 million are directly, 
legally, morally,  and individually responsible for the domestic problems that 
plague  this country.

I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve  Board because that problem was 
created by the  Congress.   In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty 
 to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central  
bank.

I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a  sound reason.. They 
have no legal authority.  They have no  ability to coerce a senator, a 
congressman, or a president to do one  cotton-picking thing.   I don't care if 
they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash.  The  politician has the 
power to accept or reject it. No matter what  the lobbyist promises, it is the 
legislator's responsibility  to determine  how he votes.

Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy  convincing you that what 
they did is not their fault.    They cooperate in this common con regardless of 
party.  What  separates a politician from a normal human being is an  excessive 
amount of gall.   No normal human being would have the gall of a  Speaker, who 
stood up and criticized the President for creating  deficits..   The president 
can only propose a budget.    He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the  land, gives sole 
responsibility to the House of  Representatives for originating and approving 
appropriations and taxes.   Who is the speaker of the House?    Nancy Pelosi.  
She is  the leader of the majority party. She and  fellow House members, not 
the president, can approve any budget they want.  If the president vetoes it, 
they can pass it over his veto if  they agree  to..

It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can  not replace 545 
people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and 
irresponsibility.   I can't think of a  single domestic problem  that is not 
traceable directly to those 545 people.  When you fully  grasp the plain truth 
that 545 people exercise the power of the federal  government, then it must 
follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
 
If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it  unfair.

If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in  the red ..

If the Army  Marines are in IRAQ ,  it's because they want them in IRAQ.

If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not 
available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems.

Do not let these 545 people shift  the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and 
whose jobs they can  abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can 
reject; to  regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom 
they can  take this power.  Above all, do not let them con you into  the belief 
that there exists disembodied mystical forces like the  economy, inflation, 
or politics that prevent them from doing  what they take an oath to do.
 
Those 545 people, and they  alone, are responsible.
 
They, and they alone, have the  power.

They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their 
bosses.

 Provided the voters have the  gumption to manage their own   employees...

 We should vote all of  them out of office and clean up their mess!


 
 Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel  Newspaper..
 
What you do with this article now that you have read it... Is up to you.



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[Biofuel] 10 Minute Charge for Student-Built Electric Car

2009-08-02 Thread Kirk McLoren









 ‘ten minute’ charge will give you a mileage of about 200 miles.



MIT students are trying to produce an alternative to fossil fuel driven cars. 
They are trying to build up a car that is clean and green but provides good 
competition to recent automobiles. They claim that their electric cars can be 
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[Biofuel] before you buy solar tiles

2009-08-02 Thread Kirk McLoren
you need to view this page before you spend your money

http://ecdfan.blogspot.com/2009/06/marketing-of-solar-tile.html
Kirk
 
 

Never pretend to be a unicorn by sticking a plunger on your head.

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[Biofuel] energy and the future

2009-08-02 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://campfire.theoildrum.com/node/5627
 
great website to explore
Kirk


A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the
support of Paul.
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[Biofuel] funniest thing Ive read in ages

2009-08-02 Thread Kirk McLoren
 
 
 
For those that remember when we were young and able to run around with a sharp 
stick, play with fire and life was good.

Around age 10, my dad got me one of those little badass compound bow beginner 
kits. Of course, the first month I went around our land sticking arrows in 
anything that could be stuck by an arrow. Did you know that a 1955 40-horse 
Farmall tractor will take six rounds before it goes down? Tough sumbich..

That got boring, so being the 10 yr. old Dukes of Hazard fan that I was, I 
quickly advanced to taking strips of cut up T-shirt doused in chainsaw gas tied 
around the end and was sending flaming arrows all over the place. Keep in mind 
this was 99.999% humidity swampland so there really was not any fire danger. 
I'll put it this way - a set of posthole diggers and a 3 ft. hole and you had 
yourself a well.

One summer afternoon, I was shooting flaming arrows into a large rotten oak 
stump in our backyard. I looked over under the carport and saw a shiny brand 
new can of starting fluid (ether). The light bulb went off. I grabbed the can 
and set it on the stump. I thought that it would probably just spray out in a 
disappointing manner... Lets face it, to a 10 yr. old mouth-breather like 
myself, ether really doesn't sound flammable. So, I went back into the house 
and got a 1-pound can of pyrodex (black powder for muzzle loader rifles).

At this point, I set the can of ether on the stump and opened up the can of 
black powder. My intentions were to sprinkle a little bit around the ether can 
but it all sort of dumped out on me. No biggie... 1 lb. pyrodex and 16 oz. 
ether should make a loud pop, kind of like a firecracker you know?

You know what? Screw that. I'm going back in the house for the other can. Yes, 
I got a second can of pyrodex and dumped it too. Now we're cookin'.

I stepped back about 15 ft. and lit the two-stroke arrow. I drew the nock to my 
cheek and took aim. As I released I heard a clunk as the arrow launched from my 
bow. In a slow motion time frame, I turned to see my dad getting out of the 
truck... OH SHIT! He just got home from work. So help me it took 10 minutes for 
that arrow to go from my bow to the can. My dad was walking towards me in slow 
motion with a weird look in his eyes. I turned back towards my target just in 
time to see the arrow pierce the starting fluid can right at the bottom. Right 
through the main pile of pyrodex and into the can. Oh Shit!

When the shock wave hit it knocked me off my feet. I don't know if it was the 
actual compression wave that threw me back or just a reflex jerk back from 235 
decibels of sound. I caught a half a millisecond glimpse of the violence during 
the initial explosion and I will tell you there was dust, grass, and bugs all 
hovering 1 ft. above the ground as far as I could see. It was like a little low 
to the ground layer of dust fog full of grasshoppers, spiders, and a crawfish 
or two. The daylight turned purple.

Let me repeat this...THE DAYLIGHT TURNED PURPLE. There was a big sweetgum tree 
out by the gate going into the pasture. Notice I said was. That 
sum-of-a-biatch got up and ran off.

So here I am, on the ground blown completely out of my shoes with my 
Thundercats t-shirt shredded, my dad is on the other side of the carport having 
what I can only assume is a Vietnam flashback:

ECHO BRAVO CHARLIE YOUR BRINGIN' EM IN TOO CLOSE! CEASE FIRE. GODDALLMIGHTY 
CEASE FIRE! His hat has blown off and is 30 ft. behind him in the driveway 
All windows on the north side of the house are blown out and there is a slow 
rolling mushroom cloud about 2000 ft over our backyard. There is a Honda 185 
three-wheeler parked on the other side of the yard and the fenders are drooped 
down and are now touching the tires.

I wish I knew what I said to my dad at that moment. I don't know - I know I 
said something. I couldn't hear. I couldn't hear inside my own head. I don't 
think he heard me either...not that it would really matter. I don't remember 
much from this point on. I said something, felt a sharp pain, and then woke up 
later. I felt a sharp pain, blacked out, woke later repeat this process for 
an hour or so and you get the idea. I remember at one point my mom had to give 
me CPR so dad could beat me some more. Bring him back to life so dad can kill 
him again. Thanks Mom.

One thing is for sure... I never had to mow around that stump again.. Mom had 
been griping about that thing for years and dad never did anything about it. I 
stepped up to the plate and handled business.

Dad sold his muzzleloader a week or so later. And I still have some sort of 
bone growth abnormality either from the blast or from the beating. Or both..

I guess what I'm trying to say is, get your kids into archery. It is good 
discipline and will teach them skills they can use later on in life.


Patrick
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not - 
Jefferson
-- 

[Biofuel] Pakistan Daily -New Evidence that the Swine Flu Pandemic is man-made

2009-08-01 Thread Kirk McLoren





  



http://www.daily. pk/7780/new- evidence- that-the- %e2%80%98swine- flu%e2%80% 
99-p
andemic-is-man- made/comment- page-1/#comment- 72

I added the following comment:

Very little attention has been given to another lethal component included in
MF-59, the oil-based adjuvant used in Novartis’ experimental vaccine, namely
the glycoprotein GP120, which is also used in most experimental AIDS
vaccines! According to Dr. Veljkovic’s assessment “the recombination
hotspots in transgenic DNA may interact with the recombination signals
flanking the V3 loop of the gp120 gene in AIDS vaccines to generate yet more
exotic viruses”! The fact that the global population has been force-fed
genetically modified food, containing antibiotic-resistan t marker genes and
viral promoters such as the cauliflower mosaic virus (CaMV), which is
closely related to the Hepatitis B and HIV virus and has a recombination
“hotspot”, would effectively turn those receiving a vaccine containing a
live virus and GP120 into “generators” of novel viral diseases never seen in
mankind before.

In addition, Novartis’ vaccines, such as OPTAFLU, for instance would also
constitute a major scoop for the multi-billion dollar HIV/AIDS industry, as
outlined in my article “Optaflu – look at the timeline” in 2007.
http://www.healthy- humans.co. za/optaflu. html,since it may give
false-positive results in serology tests using the ELISA method to detect
antibodies against HIV-1, Hepatatis C and HTLV-1, which may be due to the
IgM response to the vaccine. What a brilliant idea to inflate HIV statistics
and push toxic antiretroviral drugs on healthy people, which no doubt
happens on a daily basis in South Africa where 60 other diseases prevalent
in Africa in addition to flu and pregnancy would also give a false-positive
reading.
http://www.emea. europa.eu/ humandocs/ PDFs/EPAR/ optaflu/H- 758-PI-en. pdf

Please see Dr. Veljko Veljkovic’s assessment of gp120, which is also added
to most experimental HIV vaccines and other vaccines injected into our kids:
http://www.i- sis.org.uk/ isisnews/ i-sisnews11- 19.php
The culprit viral gene
The intended vaccines all contain gp120, a glycoprotein (protein decorated
with side-chains of carbohydrates) belonging to the envelope of the human
AIDS virus, HIV-1. The candidates include recombinant HIV proteins and
peptides (subunit vaccines), HIV-1 or SIV (the monkey AIDS virus), killed or
‘attenuated’, ie, rendered harmless by successive passage in cultured cells,
and a wide range of recombinant viral, bacterial and plasmid vectors
expressing HIV proteins. (Plasmids are pieces of parasitic genetic material
existing outside the cell’s genome, and are replicated by the cell
independently of the cell’s genome.)

HIV researchers Dr. Veljko Veljkovic and his colleagues in Belgrade
Yugoslavia, have shown that the gp120, is similar to the part of human
immunoglobulin (antibody) proteins (Ig) involved in binding foreign
antigens, a crucial step in the immune response. Thus, any AIDS vaccine
containing the gp120 glycoprotein or the gene coding for it could strongly
interfere with the immune system and make the host more vulnerable to the
virus. And in the longer term, it could accelerate disease progression in
HIV patients that do not yet have symptoms.

But the gp120 gene has other properties that pose an even greater threat to
the vaccinated population. It contains ‘recombination hotspots’ similar to
those in bacteria and viruses such as Haemophilus influenzae, Mycobacterium
tuberculosis, hepatitis B virus and herpes simplex virus, that often
co-infect with the HIV, and also similar to recombination elements found in
immunoglobulin genes and oncogenes (genes associated with cancer) in the
human host. Recombination hotspots are breakpoints at which genetic exchange
or recombination occurs much more frequently than usual. Recombination of
HIV with bacteria and viruses would generate new pathogens. Within the human
host, recombination with human genes would promote chromosomal
rearrangements and formation of abnormal immuno-globulins, thus undermining
immune responses. HIV-1 sequences integrated into the genome can act as
retrotransposons (jumping genes) that can mutate genes by jumping into them,
and some of the mutations may trigger cancer [1].

Dr. Veljkovic’s team, in collaboration with researchers in UK, Italy and US,
have already found evidence of recombination between gp120 and a gene from
Haemophilus influenzae [2]. Recombination between an HIV gene and Mycoplasm
fermentans has been implicated in ‘Gulf war syndrome’ [3] affecting a high
proportion of soldiers from the United States and the United Kingdom who
served in the Gulf war. A new subtype of HIV-1 may also have resulted from
recombination between HIV-1 and SIV [4].

The proponents of the AIDS vaccination trials argue that the desperate
situation precipitated by the AIDS epidemic justifies acceptance of the
‘small risks’ involved. But Veljkovic and his colleagues 

[Biofuel] Things you're not supposed to know about Swine flu vaccine

2009-07-29 Thread Kirk McLoren




  







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Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know about the Swine Flu Vaccineby Mike 
Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor 

(NaturalNews) She was deathly afraid of the flu.
So she asked her doc what she should do.
He jabbed her unseen
With a swine flu vaccine
Blurting, Darling, I haven't a clue.
- by the Health Ranger

Let's not beat around the bush on this issue: The swine flu vaccines now being 
prepared for mass injection into infants, children, teens and adults have never 
been tested and won't be tested before the injections begin. In Europe, where 
flu vaccines are typically tested on hundreds (or thousands) of people before 
being unleashed on the masses, the European Medicines Agency is allowing 
companies to skip the testing process entirely.

And yet, amazingly, people are lining up to take the vaccine, absent any safety 
testing whatsoever. When the National Institutes of Health in the U.S. 
announced a swine flu vaccine trial beginning in early August, it was inundated 
with phone calls and emails from people desperate to play the role of human 
guinea pigs. The power of fear to herd sheeple into vaccine injections is 
simply amazing...

Back in Europe, of course, everybody gets to be a guinea pig since no testing 
will be done on the vaccine at all. Even worse, the European vaccines will be 
using adjuvants -- chemicals used to multiply the potency of the active 
ingredients in vaccines.

Notably, there is absolutely no safety data on the use of adjuvants in infants 
and expectant mothers -- the two groups being most aggressively targeted by the 
swine flu vaccine pushers. The leads us to the disturbing conclusion that the 
swine flu vaccine could be a modern medical disaster. It's untested and 
un-tried. Its ingredients are potentially quite dangerous, and the adjuvants 
being used in the European vaccines are suspected of causing neurological 
disorders.


Paralyzed by vaccinesI probably don't need to remind you that in 1976, a failed 
swine flu vaccine caused irreparable damage to the nervous systems of hundreds 
of people, paralyzing many. Medical doctors gave the problem a name, of course, 
to make it sound like they knew what they were talking about: Guillain-Barre 
syndrome. (Notably, they never called it Toxic Vaccine Syndrome because that 
would be too informative. )

But the fact remains that doctors never knew how the vaccines caused these 
severe problems, and if the same event played out today, all the doctors and 
vaccine pushers would undoubtedly deny any link between the vaccines and 
paralysis altogether. (That's what's happening today with the debate over 
vaccines and autism: Complete denial.)

In fact, there are a whole lot of things you'll never be told by health 
authorities about the upcoming swine flu vaccine. For your amusement, I've 
written down the ten most obvious ones and published them below.


Ten things you're not supposed to know about the swine flu vaccine(At least, 
not by anyone in authority... )

#1 - The vaccine production was rushed and the vaccine has never been tested 
on humans. Do you like to play guinea pig for Big Pharma? If so, line up for 
your swine flu vaccine this fall...

#2 - Swine flu vaccines contain dangerous adjuvants that cause an inflammatory 
response in the body. This is why they are suspected of causing autism and 
other neurological disorders.

#3 - The swine flu vaccine could actually increase your risk of death from 
swine flu by altering (or suppressing) your immune system response. There is 
zero evidence that even seasonal flu shots offer any meaningful protection for 
people who take the jabs. Vaccines are the snake oil of modern medicine.

#4 - Doctors still don't know why the 1976 swine flu vaccines paralyzed so many 
people. And that means they really have no clue whether the upcoming vaccine 
might cause the same devastating side effects. (And they're not testing it, 
either...) 

#5 - Even if the swine flu vaccine kills you, the drug companies aren't 
responsible. The U.S. government has granted drug companies complete immunity 
against vaccine product liability. Thanks to that blanket immunity, drug 
companies have no incentive to make safe vaccines, because they only get paid 
based on quantity, not safety (zero liability).

#6 - No swine flu vaccine works as well as vitamin D to protect you from 
influenza. That's an inconvenient scientific fact that the U.S. government, the 
FDA and Big Pharma hope the people never realize.

#7 - Even if the swine flu vaccine actually works, mathematically speaking if 
everyone else around you gets the vaccine, you don't need one! (Because it 
can't spread through the population you hang with.) So even if you believe in 
the vaccine, all you need to do is encourage your friends to go get 
vaccinated.. ..

#8 - Drug companies are making billions of dollars from the production of swine 
flu vaccines. That money comes out of your pocket -- even if you don't 

[Biofuel] Interesting Read

2009-07-27 Thread Kirk McLoren
I wonder where they are with this today
Kirk

“Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors… and miss.” 
— Robert Heinlein





http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/2004-09-Strategic_Communication.pdf

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[Biofuel] Big Pharma - Mercury for the Masses

2009-07-26 Thread Kirk McLoren
Corrupt politicians on the take should be prosecuted under Ricoh or as 
terrorists. To grant Pharma immunity is conspiracy.
Kirk

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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7395411/deadly_immunity
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[Biofuel] confessions of an economic hit man

2009-07-26 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalbanking14.htm

“Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors… and miss.” 
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[Biofuel] ot important info

2009-07-25 Thread Kirk McLoren
If you are still brainwashed by the edible oil industry's incredibly effective 
media spin on soy, then please review the soy index page link below which has 
hundreds of pages describing the reason's you will not want to regularly 
consume non-fermented soy products.
Soy protein powders and soy formula are the worst offenders and I don't believe 
that they should be consumed by anyone. -Mercola MD
 
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/10/27/soy-kidney-stones.aspx
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[Biofuel] Fw: Scientific Research Ignored By The Medical Industry

2009-07-23 Thread Kirk McLoren



I think the sentence below is key:
Dr. Rath’s research further revealed that once the body stores 1.1 pounds of 
these aminos per 150 pounds body weight, NO DISEASE will spread through the 
body. That means it can stop the spread of virus. This protocol was used for 
HIV research and it proved just that. It stopped the spread of HIV as well as 
any other viruses, in fact all viruses.
 
 
BtW when you go to google books just enter vaccines as search. There are oodles 
of books that display all the text as they are older. In this case they are the 
ones you want as there was extensive debate in England re Jenner. Lots of great 
statistics and observations.
Kirk


 





Scientific Research Ignored By The Medical Industry Still Remains Undisputed
Filed Under Cancer, Natural Healing, Natural Solutions, Nutrition, Organic, Sea 
Salts 
By Emjae Johnson
Research that is “undisputed” is evidence that is accepted as truth. Have you 
ever wondered why undisputed scientific research that was excellent enough to 
be awarded the NOBEL Prize has never been used, even ignored by the medical 
industry?

Cause of Cancer Discovered Over 70 Years Ago
Cancer is now the number one killer among all diseases in the U.S. Experts tell 
us that 1 in 3 will get some form of cancer. The medical industry has little to 
offer the cancer patient in the way of effective treatments, in fact, they have 
been offering the same three treatments for more than 40 years, chemotherapy, 
radiation and surgical removal.
Even so, rarely will you hear a doctor reveal to their patients the truth about 
cancer treatment survival rates. They most likely will not do so because they 
are so very low. The National Cancer Institute has stated that the survival 
rate for Chemotherapy is less than 5.9% and Radiation treatments less than 
12.8%. These are startling statistics but yet, generally, no other treatments 
are offered to the Cancer patient. I cannot speak for anyone else but when I 
went to school less that 13% was considered a failing grade!
It is a fact that over 75 years ago, Dr. Otto Warburg discovered the cause of 
Cancer was due to a lack of oxygen at the cellular level causing a low pH 
(acidity) at the cellular level and was awarded the NOBEL prize TWICE for his 
research. It seems logical that if this research is true, that our pH, or 
oxygen level, should be tested on a regular basis by our medical professionals. 
If keeping a high oxygen level in our bodies will help keep cancer from forming 
in our bodies why are we not being educated by the medical industry to do so? 
It would truly only be a matter of some dietary changes and lifestyle 
recommendations. It is hard to say what the benefit is to not informing the 
public of this research.
Additionally, two more scientific minds, Dr. Keith Brewer and H.E. Sartori, 
built upon the research of Dr. Otto Warburg and found that raising a cell’s 
oxygen or pH to 8.0 creates an environment that a cancer cell cannot survive 
in. In other words, a cancer cell thrives in an arena of low oxygen, sort of 
like the carp that live in polluted ponds. Once the cell’s oxygen is raised the 
cancer cell does not feel at home anymore to the point that it dies. It seems 
that the answer to surviving cancer is to raise your body’s pH, or oxygen level.
[It should be stated here that H.E. Sartori was imprisoned for twenty-five 
years for claiming he had a cure for cancer. He now resides overseas and 
continues his research on cancer.]
Mineral Ascorbates: Effect on Heart Disease and Diabetes
Dr. Linus Pauling, another NOBEL Prize winner, discovered that the human body 
needs ascorbates and no longer produces its own (nutrients which cost only 
pennies a day to use.) These ascorbates are essential for healing and restoring 
our connective tissue, that would be the glue that holds us together. Without 
ascorbates you could say we are pretty much all falling apart.
Further, Dr. Linus Pauling with the help of Dr. Mathias Rath discovered that 
only 3 grams a day of mineral ascorbates were sufficient to prevent heart 
disease, the #2 killer.
Ascorbates have been shown to help diabetes. At the famous Stanford University 
Med School in California, diabetic Dr. Dice found that by taking ascorbates on 
a regular basis he could reduce his requirement for insulin by 2.5 units for 
each additional gram of ascorbate he took . By the 23rd day of this regimen he 
was taking 11 grams of ascorbates daily and his insulin requirement had dropped 
from 32 units to only 5 units per day.
Spread of All Viruses  Arteriosclerotic Build-up Halted with Addition of Two 
Amino Acids
Doctors Rath and Pauling also expanded on the work of other Nobelists, Brown 
and Goldstein for yet another solution - that two amino acids, L-Lysine and 
L-Proline taken with mineral ascorbates prevents the arteriosclerotic build-up 
and even reverse it. There is nothing else know to man that will do this.
Dr. Rath’s research further revealed that once the 

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