Re: [Biofuel] Okay, This time I really am going to take down the list, , , , but first, please read
Great! Expanding horizons. Yes please take this into the next phase. With thanks and appreciation. -- oskar ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
[Biofuel] thanks to "the list"
Thanks to all involved. I have learned a lot from this list. Facts, thoughts, motivations discussed here helped me shape my personal and professional life. And I am certainly not the only one. It is sad to see the list go - but it served its purpose. The work of its founder stays alive in the goals, actions and achievements of the people he inspired. With all good wishes for a happy future! Oskar Bartenstein ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
[Biofuel] 3 years after Fukushima: Safe City Japan Project with wood biomass CHP
FYI. 3 years after Fukushima. Please let me know if you want more info or participate in any way. Stable natural energy for a safe Tokyo2020 April 22 2014 a group of journalists and engineers in Tokyo initiated the Safe City Japan Project. The project targets to install 1000 small wood fired combined heat power units in Olympic facilities, hotels and apartment buildings by August 2020. Based on the experience of the earthquake, tsunami and nuclear catastrophy in Northeast Japan March 2011 and on the pledge [1] by The Tokyo Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games to use only green energy for Tokyo2020, the devices will provide disaster resilient distributed electricity and hot water from local renewable and sustainable resources. An event like March 2011 hitting Tokyo Metropolis cutting water, gas and electricity lines will within hours turn 10 Mio residents into refugees with no place to go even if all buildings remain intact. The project emphasizes distributed energy supply with storable fuel. Each machine can support 70 average Japanese households with electricity and heat from wood chips. 1000 machines will usually serve only 7 households. However during a crisis the distributed machines will be able to power nighttime lighting and telecommunication for about 7 Mio households, because during a power crisis high priority electricity need is only 1% of normal consumption. Distributed emergency power for 7 Mio households will make a substantial contribution towards disaster resistance of the large cities of Japan. Installation cost is estimated at less than JPY100billion, to be financed with green electricity sales proceeds. Nominal output 45MW electricity and 90MW heat, yearly energy is 1PJ electricity and 2PJ heat. The projects impact beyond the Olymic Games 2020 is disaster resistance as value to urban residents, new growth markets to forestry, and tangible progress towards storable, renewable and sustainable energy supply for modern Japan. [1] http://tokyo2020.jp/en/plan/candidature/dl/tokyo2020_candidate_section_5_enfr. pdf http://tokyo2020.jp/jp/plan/candidature/dl/tokyo2020_candidate_section_5_jp.p -- Dr Oskar Bartenstein IFCJ KK Ecolifelab 5-28-2 Sendagi Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo 1130022 oskar (dot) bartenstein (at) ecolifelab (dot) com +81-(0)90-9316-0956 http://www.ecolifelab.com ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] 3 years after Fukushima: Safe City Japan Project with wood biomass CHP
Bruno, And, they talk about CHP, how they gonna spread their produced heat to the (7 million) people ? This is the beauty of distributed systems. Wide distribution systems like city gas or the grid are easy to break and take a long time to restart. Here, distribution is all local *within* urban apartment buildings, central heating and hot water made with locally stored fuel. The assumption is that not all systems go down at the same time because they work independent from each other. Smells like a daydreamers unrealistic proposal. If you want to check hot water and electricity made with the mentioned wood fired CHP machines make holidays at e.g. http://hofgemeinschaft-heggelbach.de http://www.mueller-fischerbach.de http://www.stuberhof.com http://www.tierwarthof.at http://www.miaaltabadia.it/de/tamores/ http://www.zwiglhof.com http://www.glinzhof.com http://www.landhaus-zitzelsberger.de http://www.reibener-hof.de and judge for yourself. Kind regards Oskar Bartenstein Tue Jun 17 2014 10:43:40 JST from Bruno M. brun...@telenet.be Subject: Re: [Biofuel] 3 years after Fukushima: Safe City Japan Project with wood biomass CHP Mike, no you can not do that, not even close, since for making your Hydrogen from distilled water you need a bunch of electric energy, from ... euh, ... the grid ? And don't tell me you can saver easely stock allot of your H2 made upfront and stock it near where it'll be needed or used to turn it back in grid(compatible) electric energy. Then i'm not so sure if their proposal is very realistic, and how they gonna keep in eg the chaos after a second and bigger fukushima debacle, 7 million people from using more electric energy then only charging their smart phone? And, they talk about CHP, how they gonna spread their produced heat to the (7 million) people ? Smells like a daydreamers unrealistic proposal. Grts Bruno M. Mike Carpenter schreef op 16/06/2014 21:22: I can do the same thing for less money using hydrogen from distilled water. Mike Carpenter Energy Recovery Group, Inc. 800-979-6453 503-508-8452 Skype - USBiodiesel1 mikecgr...@comcast.net (760) 569-7676 conf. 154-874 # bridge On 6/16/14, 6:43 AM, Oskar Bartenstein os...@ifcomputer.co.jp wrote: FYI. 3 years after Fukushima. Please let me know if you want more info or participate in any way. Stable natural energy for a safe Tokyo2020 April 22 2014 a group of journalists and engineers in Tokyo initiated the Safe City Japan Project. The project targets to install 1000 small wood fired combined heat power units in Olympic facilities, hotels and apartment buildings by August 2020. Based on the experience of the earthquake, tsunami and nuclear catastrophy in Northeast Japan March 2011 and on the pledge [1] by The Tokyo Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games to use only green energy for Tokyo2020, the devices will provide disaster resilient distributed electricity and hot water from local renewable and sustainable resources. An event like March 2011 hitting Tokyo Metropolis cutting water, gas and electricity lines will within hours turn 10 Mio residents into refugees with no place to go even if all buildings remain intact. The project emphasizes distributed energy supply with storable fuel. Each machine can support 70 average Japanese households with electricity and heat from wood chips. 1000 machines will usually serve only 7 households. However during a crisis the distributed machines will be able to power nighttime lighting and telecommunication for about 7 Mio households, because during a power crisis high priority electricity need is only 1% of normal consumption. Distributed emergency power for 7 Mio households will make a substantial contribution towards disaster resistance of the large cities of Japan. Installation cost is estimated at less than JPY100billion, to be financed with green electricity sales proceeds. Nominal output 45MW electricity and 90MW heat, yearly energy is 1PJ electricity and 2PJ heat. The projects impact beyond the Olymic Games 2020 is disaster resistance as value to urban residents, new growth markets to forestry, and tangible progress towards storable, renewable and sustainable energy supply for modern Japan. [1] http://tokyo2020.jp/en/plan/candidature/dl/tokyo2020_candidate_section_5_e nfr. pdf http://tokyo2020.jp/jp/plan/candidature/dl/tokyo2020_candidate_section_5_j p.p -- Dr Oskar Bartenstein IFCJ KK Ecolifelab 5-28-2 Sendagi Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo 1130022 oskar (dot) bartenstein (at) ecolifelab (dot) com +81-(0)90-9316-0956 http://www.ecolifelab.com ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo
Re: [Biofuel] Mongolia to be home for spent nuclear fuel
According to press reports quoted verbatim below, Norio Sasaki, CEO of Toshiba promoted the idea to dump nuclear garbage from Japan and US into Mongolia in a letter of May 12 to the US Government. Toshiba, posted a denial, also quoted verbatim below. http://www.47news.jp/CN/201107/CN2011070101000922.html モンゴルに国際的核処分場建設を 東芝が米高官に書簡 米原子力大手ウェスチングハウス・エレクトリック(WH)を子会社に持つ東芝の佐々木則夫社長が5月中旬、米政府高官に書簡を送り、使用済み核燃料などの国際的な貯蔵・処分場をモンゴルに建設する計画を盛り込んだ新構想を推進するよう要請、水面下で対米工作を進めていることが1日、分かった。 モンゴルでの核処分場計画は、新興国への原発輸出をにらみ、モンゴルで加工したウラン燃料の供給と使用後の処理を担う「包括的燃料サービス(CFS)」構想の一環。米国とモンゴルが主導し、日本にも参加を呼び掛けた。経済産業省が後押ししてきたが、外務省が慎重姿勢を示すなど政府内に異論もある。 http://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/article/economics/news/CK201107020239.html 東芝 モンゴルに核燃処分場構想 2011年7月2日 朝刊 写真 米原子力大手ウェスチングハウス・エレクトリック(WH)を子会社に持つ東芝の佐々木則夫社長が五月中旬、米政府高官に書簡を送り、使用済み核燃料などの国際的な貯蔵・処分場をモンゴルに建設する計画を盛り込んだ新構想を推進するよう要請、水面下で対米工作を進めていることが一日、分かった。 複数の日本政府関係者や政府の内部文書によると、モンゴルでの核処分場計画は、新興国への原発輸出をにらみ、モンゴルで加工したウラン燃料の供給と使用後の処理を担う「包括的燃料サービス(CFS)」構想の一環。米国とモンゴルが主導し、日本にも参加を呼び掛けた。経済産業省が後押ししてきたが、外務省が慎重姿勢を示すなど政府内に異論もある。 日本のエネルギー政策の見直しが進む中で明るみに出た東芝の働き掛けは、福島第一原発事故後も、原子力業界の原発輸出路線に変化がない実態を示している。 共同通信がコピーを入手した書簡は五月十二日付で、米エネルギー省のパネマン副長官宛て。原子力政策に携わる米政府当局者は、書簡が米政府内で回覧されたことを認めた。 書簡は、日米の一部メディアが四〜五月にモンゴルでの処分場計画を報じたため「(モンゴルを巻き込んだ)CFS構想は今や世界的に周知されたと認識しなければならない」と指摘。「反対も予想されるので、進展継続を確かにするため、関係者がより緊密な調整を図ることが極めて重要」としている。 豊富なウラン資源のあるモンゴルで事業を進める意義にも触れ、関係国の国民が「事業の価値を正しく理解する」ための努力が必要と主張。福島の事故で「原子力産業に環境の変化が起きた」としながらも東芝として「CFSへの積極的関与の方針に変化はない」と強調した。 東芝広報室は書簡を送ったことを認め「モンゴルのCFS構想は、国際的な核不拡散体制の構築、および同国の経済発展に寄与できるという点で意義がある」と述べた。 日本政府高官によると、この関連でモンゴル政府関係者が今年二月に来日している。 <包括的燃料サービス(CFS)> 原子力発電用のウラン燃料の供給や使用済み燃料の処分を国際的枠組みで一括して行う構想で、米エネルギー省やモンゴルなどが提唱。「揺りかごから墓場まで燃料サービス(CTG)」とも呼ぶ。新興国の原発導入へ向け、日米やフランスなどがプラント売り込みにしのぎを削る中、新規原発導入国にとって課題となる(1)ウラン燃料の濃縮、加工、調達(2)使用済み燃料など「核のごみ」の処分−を一括して解決するのが狙い。ウラン濃縮や使用済み燃料再処理といった核兵器開発に転用可能な技術拡散の防止も想定している。 http://www.toshiba.co.jp/information/11070501_j.htm モンゴルにおけるCFS構想に関する一部報道について * 2011年7月5日 当社が米政府にモンゴルで核処分場を建設する計画を推進するよう要請した旨の一部報道がありましたが、当社がモンゴルに処分場を建設するよう要請した事実はありません。 モンゴル政府と米国政府にて検討されているCFS(包括的燃料サービス)構想は、モンゴルで採掘・加工されたウラン燃料を国際市場に供給し、その使用済燃料に限りモンゴルが引き取り、再処理までの間、中間貯蔵するものと理解しています。 当社は、原子力エネルギーを推進するうえで、核の安全利用と核不拡散体制の構築が重要であると考えており、CFS構想は世界的な核不拡散体制の構築という点で意義があると認識しています。 なお、当社が米政府に宛てた書簡は、モンゴルに処分場を建設する構想を推進するよう要請したものではなく、CFS構想が世界的な核不拡散体制の構築という点で意義があること、および核不拡散体制に協力していく当社の立場に変更がないことを伝えたものです。 On 7/20/2011, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://search.japantimes.co.jp/mail/nn20110720a4.html Wednesday, July 20, 2011 Three-way pact says nation to accept waste Mongolia to be home for spent nuclear fuel Kyodo ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] SVO and titration
Candle filters 100um, 20um, 1um, no vacuum, no heating. I let stuff settle for a while and avoid surface and bottom. Dont know, possibly nothing. 1um sounds better to me than 10um and does not cost any more work or money. On 6/28/2011, Thomas Irwin wrote: How do you filter WVO to 1 um? Multiple filtering steps with vacuum? Do you separate emulsions and animal fat first? What would 5 or 10 um filtering leave in that would be problematic? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] SVO and titration
A question for SVO users - do you actually bother to titrate WVO to check the quality? In my case: No I dont. I filter to 1um, no further processing. Also, any comments from long-term users of two-tank systems - are they really inferior to Elsbett-type single-tank systems? I think 2-tank is far superior. You have one tank with industrially managed well understood diesel, and an ALTERNATIVE tank with a liquid that may contain fats, acids, water, salt, sugar and anything else it met in the fry pan. So I drive almost always on used soy oil but can switch to a well defined fuel any time. Long term is in my case about 70,000km. Acid contamination can and will damage your engine. This is the second reason for 2-tank. Shutdown and startup on diesel prevents the corrosive WVO from sitting in your engine while the car is parked - which is the overwhelming part of a cars life for most of us. My setup does not work well for short distance. Oskar ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Black Tuesday in Japan
Right, at present the feed-in tariff is not so important. The attractive subsidy for photovoltaics in Japan is for the purchased device, not for the generated electricity. For Tokyo residents, it is JPY100.000 per installed kWp from the Tokyo Metropolitan (local) budget PLUS JPY70.000 per kWp from the Japanese (national) budget. Conditions are: - buyng a new solar electric system - buying a government condoned system - buying a grid-intertie contract from the utility National level: http://www.j-pec.or.jp Tokyo level: http://www.tokyo-co2down.jp/taiyo/ Kind regards Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com On 9/15/2010, Keith Addison wrote: Hi Joe Sorry, I don't know the subsidy rate in Japan offhand. I'll browse around on my hard disk a bit, but not today. But I think you're right, not very heavily subsidised. All best Keith I understood that Japan didn't subsidize that heavily at least not compared to north american electricity rates. In Canada the rate is about 6 cents per kwh but then they add surcharges and debt recovery for our defunct candu reactors that never run right and the total charge is about 13 cents per kwh in Ontario that is.. Keith, what it the rate in Japan today? Joe Oskar Bartenstein wrote: Snip Japan heavily subsidizes grid-connected solar electricity (not off-grid solar electricity!) to 1) meet daytime power demand peaks which cannot be met with nuclear power because of their constant output and to 2) provide stable domestic income to the PV industry so that they stay competitive in the export markets. PV in Japan is a feel-good product that helps nuclear power and the export business of four PV manufacturers. The tax payer is told this is eco, some would call it dumping. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Black Tuesday in Japan
Thank you for your reply. 2007, solar thermal systems installed total in Japan residential use was 1%, simple batch heaters less than 7% and rapidly *de*creasing. source: http://www.ssda.or.jp/profile/databook.pdf p27 In Tokyo, the *first* condo with solar thermal was just put on the market a week ago, http://www3.daiwahouse.co.jp/mansion/kanto/29000/setagaya282/ pointing the way but also illustrating how far Japan is lagging behind and how huge the remaining solar thermal market in Japan is. Kind regards Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com On 9/14/2010, Keith Addison wrote: One thing to add, I think most domestic hot water in Japan is currently heated by passive solar systems. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Black Tuesday in Japan
The puzzle is easy to solve - you are confusing completely different forms of solar energy: In your first comment you mentioned passive solar water heaters, in connection with most domestic hot water in Japan, which is solar _thermal_. I quoted the proliferation data for solar thermal water heaters in Japan, based on the survey of the manufacturers association. Your references 1,2,3,4,5 talk about PV, spell photovoltaics, which is solar _electric_. To use photovoltaics to produce heat is inefficient thus rare. Japan heavily subsidizes grid-connected solar electricity (not off-grid solar electricity!) to 1) meet daytime power demand peaks which cannot be met with nuclear power because of their constant output and to 2) provide stable domestic income to the PV industry so that they stay competitive in the export markets. PV in Japan is a feel-good product that helps nuclear power and the export business of four PV manufacturers. The tax payer is told this is eco, some would call it dumping. The Tokyo Electric business plan calls for _more_ consumption of electricity in Japan in _inefficient_ areas, i.e. invites waste instead of reducing waste. Heating and warm water are the easiest applications of solar thermal energy. Yes, Japan *was* a big user of solar thermal, that is why you can see many old solar hot water heaters in Japan, out of use, numbers decreasing. Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com On 9/14/2010, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That doesn't seem to be right, Oskar. This is from Wikipedia, mostly about PV: Solar power in Japan has been expanding since the late 1990s. The country is a leading manufacturer of solar panels and is in the top 5 ranking for countries with the most solar PV installed. Japan is third in the world in total solar power (behind Germany and Spain), with most of it grid connected. Wiki's refs: 1. National survey report of PV Power applications in Japan 2006 retrieved 16 October 2008 http://www.iea-pvps.org/countries/download/nsr06/06jpnnsr.pdf 2. Global Market Outlook for photovoltaics until 2013 retrieved 22 May 2009 http://www.epia.org/index.php?id=491 3. Japan renews focus on solar power http://www.upi.com/Energy_Resources/2008/12/26/Japan_renews_focus_on_solar_power/UPI-37681230300775/ 4. Soto, Shigeru (2010-02-09). Japan's Solar Panel Sales Rise to Record on Subsidy (Update1). BusinessWeek. Retrieved 2010-09-10. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-09/japan-s-solar-panel-sales-rise-to-record-on-subsidy-update1-.html 5. Yamamoto, Masamichi and Osamu Ikki (2010-05-28). National survey report of PV Power Applications in Japan 2009. International Energy Agency. Retrieved 2010-09-10. http://www.iea-pvps.org/countries/download/nsr09/NSR_2009_Japan_100620.pdf I often see passive solar water heaters in the rural areas, and in the suburbs. There's one on our roof. Sadly, it's not in use. This old house has two water systems, an old well with a pump, and, later, mains, and the solar heater is connected to the well. The house uses the mains supply, along with an energy-saving (allegedly) electric water heater. We don't own the house, and I won't interfere. Other houses here have passive solar water heaters that are in use. Best Keith Thank you for your reply. 2007, solar thermal systems installed total in Japan residential use was 1%, simple batch heaters less than 7% and rapidly *de*creasing. source: http://www.ssda.or.jp/profile/databook.pdf#65533;p27 In Tokyo, the *first* condo with solar thermal was just put on the market a week ago, http://www3.daiwahouse.co.jp/mansion/kanto/29000/setagaya282/ pointing the way but also illustrating how far Japan is lagging behind and how huge the remaining solar thermal market in Japan is. Kind regards Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com On 9/14/2010, Keith Addison wrote: One thing to add, I think most domestic hot water in Japan is currently heated by passive solar systems. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Black Tuesday in Japan
According to Nikkei Newspaper of 14 Sept 2010 and other newspaper reports, Tokyo Electric announced its business plan to triple electricity production in India, China, and other Asian countries within 10 years mainly based on caloric power plants. At the same time for domestic Japan, Tokyo Electric plans to increase CO2 neutral electricity to 50% of output by increasing nuclear power plants. To create need for this electricity, they declared to create incentives to newly electrify areas like room heating or domestic hot water which use little electricity in Japan now. Within ten years, the goal for this new electrification is 30 Terawatthours (30.000.000.000 kWh) http://www.sankeibiz.jp/business/news/100914/bsb1009140504005-n1.htm (2010-09-14) The same Nikkei Newspaper of 2010/09/14 and others report that Mitsui Bussan, C. Itoh and other japanese trading companies announced to bid for development right of coal mines in Mongolia, estimated to become the largest coal mine in the world. C Itoh plans to double its coal output by 2015 to 22 million tons. http://www.bloomberg.co.jp/apps/news?pid=90920010sid=aZpwoGi4kV4I I wanted to add a few comments here, but came to think it is not really needed. Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fuji to enter hybrid car race
Likely you are talking about the Subaru Twin Hybrid which was available in Japan from 2003 maybe earlier - the first K Hybrid in the market here. Not vaporware, not a concept car. Yet the concept is still interesting: cruising by the gasoline engine, acceleration assisted with the electric motor. Each does what it does best. It was too early, so the article reads like future? - oskar ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] before you buy solar tiles
The use of solar thermal energy is now mandatory in Spain for residential and public buildings http://www.solarge.org/index.php?id=1657no_cache=1 The city governments of Tokyo and Yokohama encourage use of renewable energies in larger new commercial structures, meaning this is a requirement for the building permit. Solar roofs, solar facades are of course the way to go, both for solar thermal and solar electric. Add-ons are interim solutions. Oskar Bartenstein http://www.ecolifelab.com On 8/3/2009, Ivan Menchero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought that should be the way to go, and how come NO GOVERNMENT, has pass a code saying if you build a Building you MUST, the increase on the prize of a building would be minimal. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Jean Pain video
Does the video tell you how to use biogas as motor fuel, in a tractor for instance? It only mentions methane and that the gas is compressed. It shows a Citroen 2CV (that is a gasoline car). From the narration I got the impression that the car runs on that gas, not sure if this is just the intention or reported reality. Also, it is a pity the there is no credit to the origin of the video, seems to be edited fairly professionally and a while ago. Anybody knows where it comes from? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/