Re: [Biofuel] B.P. methanol m100?
Hi Felipe,and all,according to me to run your car on methanol you will need about double the volume thus bigger injectors which is expensive and like i said methanol burns to +-6/1 were petrol burns 14 / 1 so u will need more feul to go the same distance in South Africa methanol costs r 2.37/l and petrol r5.80 +- i was also thinking of that.saving money . regards Kobus S.A -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Felipe Navarrete Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 5:40 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] B.P. methanol m100? Is that .90 cents a gallon? If so, Can I run my 1990 honda civic on M100? That would be a direct way to save money and burn a more environmentally safe fuel... Eriva Randriamanjatosoa wrote: Hi Felipe, it depends on what is reasonable. But it can be even cheaper -up to as low as USD .9 per gal- at www.methanex.com there must be a minimum quantity per order though, which I don't know. Try asking them at NORTH AMERICA Suite 1150 15301 Dallas Parkway Addison, TX 75001 USA T: +1 972 702 0909 F: +1 972 702 0910 Eriva --- Felipe Navarrete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, This is my first post on the list so hello fellow Biofuelers. I found a source for buying methanol here in Miami Florida. Location: South florida performance 18728 SW 107th Ave Miami, FL (305) 233-8520 Product: B.P. methanol. I believe he said it was m100. This is 100% percent methanol according to the guy on the phone. Anyone familiar with this product? will this do the trick? Price: 5 gallon pale= $33 Is this a reasonable price? It must be special ordered. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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HI ALL,IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE FLASH POINT OF METHANOL DOWN TO THE SAME AS NORMAL PETROL SO THAT I CAN USE IT AS FEUL FOR MY CAR THANX KOBUS S.A. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] First test batch
Hi,Duncan,Jurie and all thanx for all your help, here in the vaal triangle it is hard to find the chemicals but with your help i managed to get it all together. last night i made my first batch the methoxside reacted immediately with the heated new oil,and i mixed it for obout 45 min it tured into a golden brown coulor ,i then let it settle over night,the 45 min was not enough i think but i had to hit the sac (go to sleep) next day the mix did not split just the golden brown coulor,can i heat it up and do some more mixing? and settle again ,or start again. thanx again for all the info on the list,its very interresting Kobus S.A. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] methanol availability
Hi all,and Duncan, maybe u can help me with a suplier of methanol,in S.A. preferebly close to the vaal triangle and the price of it thanx Kobus ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
RE: [Biofuel] methanol availability - South Africa
Hi,Duncan thanx a million the best i could do was r6/l thanx again regards kobus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mills, Duncan Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:15 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: RE: [Biofuel] methanol availability - South Africa Kobus - the cheapest I've found is at Triangle Solvents (011 873 0157) in Germiston. About R2.40/l. You can either take your own container and get it filled, or they'll sell you a container at a reasonable price. The price is MUCH better than lab suppliers. Regards, Duncan 082 853 8356 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rademan, Jacobus Sent: 17 August 2005 07:52 To: Biofuel (E-mail) Subject: [Biofuel] methanol availability Hi all,and Duncan, maybe u can help me with a suplier of methanol,in S.A. preferebly close to the vaal triangle and the price of it thanx Kobus This E-mail message and its attachments are subject to the disclaimers published at http://www.barloworld-equipment.com/mail_disclaimer.htm Barloworld Equipment - 7 Values: Integrity + Uncompromising Customer Service + Long Term Customer Relationships + Passion For Our Brands + Professionalism + Effective Communication + Winning Through Team Work. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
RE: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses
HI PABLO,AND EVERYONE My friend has a v8 3.9l land rover disco and he beats the 2.4 l nissan bakkie that weighs less hows this possible ? remember that the v8 does not have to work hard at all to go 120km/hour were the nissan is working its ass off so check your torque and power before u buy a car, my landrover disco 2.5 l diesel gives 11km/l permanent 4x4 were my c180 merc gives only 10km/l regards kobus S.A. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pablo Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:51 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Biofuel College Courses I am 18 and not sure where I want to go to college. I might take the year off, as it is so late to be signing up. My question for everyone is, does anyone here know of some good colleges, preferably in the New England area, that have specialty biofuel(or related) courses? That would be a great help to me. Also, I wanted to add an amazing discovery/question that I found this past week. I drive a 1992 honda civic. I just did a full tune up, including O2 sensor, plugs, wires, cap rotor, etc. I drove from FL to MA, and i got about 23 MPG. This is in a 1.5L engine in a car weighing maybe 1600 lbs fully loaded with 106 base HP. I then drove my father's car south( a 2000 Cadillac Deville), from Ma to FL, and got an amazing surprise : his 4.6L American engine with about 300 base HP pulling a car weighing maybe 3000Lbs empty got 28MPG. I also found that in the city, his car's gas mileage was 18 MPG, where mine is about 13. Now I admit to owning a foot of lead, but does anyone know how this is possible as i drove both vehicles, and with regular gas? The calculations were correct for MPG. Any input would be appreciated. ~ Paul ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
RE: [Biofuel] Diesel Price
Hi all, diesel in South Africa is now selling for R5.75 per litre but i think we should take in account minimum wadge per hour in your country, R5.75 may be cheap for u but for a bloke that owns minimum wadge can just buy 1 litre per hour and nothing els. Thanx Kobus South Africa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of F. Desprez Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:48 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Diesel Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Dear All Is there a website that I can access that list the current price of diesel (at retail) in all the countries or most of the countries? Dear alone, Many sites found by google Among them, for Europe, several in English and... concerning the English (but EU neighbours as well) This brittish one, (june 2005) http://www.aaroadwatch.ie/eupetrolprices/ another in pence per liter (updated feb 2005) http://www.see-search.com/business/fuelandpetrolpriceseurope.htm another from Britannia, updated June 2005 with prices in Euro http://www.day-tripper.net/pricespetrol.html anothers http://www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/fuel/ http://europe.tiscali.co.uk/index.jsp?section=moneylevel=previewcontent=230663 and comments from an american about prices and taxes http://wais.stanford.edu/ztopics/week040105/energy_050401_gasolinepricesusvseurope.htm ... frantz ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] TDI BIKES
THANX CHRIS AND KEITH,I will take a look at the sites. To all ,do u think a old washing machine will make out a nice big blender for procesing larger batches , or will it turn the mix too fast,just a thought for later experiments thanx Kobus S.A . Baie dankie aan julle almal. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
RE: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes
Hi all, i own a landrover disco tdi and get 980km on a tank 85l but on the motorbike which use petrol 19km/l my question,where are the tdi motorbikes,diesel cars are lighter than petrol cars,so diesel bikes will also be,is 40km/l reachable? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:30 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes Hello; 22mpg diesel cost less than same amount of gasoline so you save some. BUT, May I ask why do you need a Hummer sized expedition machine? Except USA such large cars or SUV's are out of our shopping list anyway. The cost and running expenses do not justify them. I like going offroad. Currently I do that with a motorbike. If I choose to buy an offroad 4x4, I wouldn't consider anything bigger than 2.5 litre diesel which will give me at least 25 to 30mpg. May be we should consider to change our purchasing habbits in favour of preserving whatever is left in the world in terms of resources. I hope the below quote from your e-mail will come true some day; The US needs (and will) get over its fascination w/ giant cars. As I have written in my previous e-mail, our kids will be the ones to suffer / enjoy results of our choices. Regards Burak -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:24 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes Not in a Hummer-sized or Expedition-sized vehicle you won't! I counted over 30 that don't even get 20 mpg on EPA's website. I have a VW Golf and get at least 43-46. The US doesn't sell small diesels, except the Jeep, but it's so heavy it still get no mileage. Isuzu was was the last carmaker to build a decent midsize SUV w/ a diesel - it got 30-35 or so but that was years ago. The US needs (and will) get over its fascination w/ giant cars. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello; You will get far more than 22mpg with diesel. Unless of course you are looking for very large capacity engine (like 6 litres) which and average city user does not need. Over here (outside of USA) you can buy 2.5 to 3.5 litre diesel engined SUV's and Vans. You will get at least 25mpg. And these are 4x4 heavy duty machines. Or you can get small capacity diesel cars (example 1.6 litre Hyundai Getz) and you get something like 40 miles to a gallon easily. These are real life values including city traffic (not test values). I have looked at the article, it mentiones that in US the refineries do not have the capacity for the diesel production. Well hey maybe this is a great opportunity for bio-diesel Start using the vegetable oil or even better waste vegetable oil. You will save the environment, create jobs for local farmers and pollute far less. I would estimate that for a bio-diesel plant it will take maximum 6 months from scratch to be operational. And you can use the local farmers produce or local restaurants WVO (and save the pollution). Even better if you have the talent like many in this list you can make it at home, and save a bundle... Article also mentions that diesel prices are soaring. Yes this is true. I can tell you that this is a great tax revenue for all of the government. I can tell you that over here there are less taxes on biodiesel. The government actually supports the BD production. Therefore the BD sells for less than normal diesel. To save more please refer to the last sentence of the previous paragraph. There is one more issue about commercial transportation. We need to build more railroads. Trucking everything wil not be feasible. Again in Turkiye I believe we have the largest truck population in Europe. But at the end of the day no matter how many roads you build they are always congested and the accident rates are difficult to control. For commercial transportation you need to build railroads and develop the seaways. So there is a solution for all of the claims this article makes. It all comes down to the personal choice of each individual. Do we want to solve problems? Or do we prefer to enjoy the luxury of wasting energy? I gues our kids will be the one to appreciate our efforts or put the blame on us. regards Burak Istanbul, Turkiye -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 11:21 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes I read that. Diesel will only help if combined w/ high mileage cars, hybrid and bio. To go to diesel so Americans can get 22 mpg in their SUVs is pretty silly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Click here: Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/07/AR20050807 0 0888.html FYI.
RE: [Biofuel] washing?
Hi all im a newcomber to making biodiesel and will be making my first batch soon but need some help in washing the diesel the rest i got from a friend thanx Kobus S.A. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 3:03 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] washing? I always wash *and* neutralize the leftover lye - but then I'm pretty paranoid. Some of the gurus I met at Piedmont don't, others swear you have to. the skapegoat wrote: The JTF website strongly recommends washing and the Josh Tickell book seems to suggest it isn't necessary and possibly even detrimental. I'm interested in some insight on this difference of opinion. I'm sure most experienced biodieselers here wash their biodiesel. Would it be worthwhile to distill the methanol from the biodiesel instead of just washing it away? I know this still leaves excess hydroxides that still need to be washed out, but it might reduce the number of washes necessary and you might be able to save some of your methanol. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
