Re: [biofuel] Our new off grid home
Congradulations Steve. I'm anxious to hear more from you about the how-to's of your new home endeavours. - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Our new off grid home On Mon, 10 May 2004 01:09:49 +0900, you wrote: I have exciting news to share. Today we closed on our off grid home in 5 acres of woods. PV, Wind, Rain Water filled Cistern, Veggie Oil powered VW Rabbit generator, wood heat, etc. Paradise! I will be sharing photo's and construction articles as we expand and improve our little slice of heaven. Expansion of the rain harvester/cistern, and solar water heater with wood backup is the first order of business. Steve Spence http://www.green-trust.org Congratulations Steve! What you've wanted for so long. Best wishes Keith That sounds like a serious score. Enough acreage to stretch his wings in a number of ways, and more progressive technologies than I imagine usually come with almost any house, even one lived in by open-minded sustainably-minded progressive people. When I bought my place (which in a number of ways does not meet the level of score that he made) I found that it was somewhat hard to find such a place, and to get realtors even to make me aware of them. Even something as simple as getting home insurance with good credit can be difficult for a home that is not cut from the usual cloth. I live in a fire-prone area where everyone is allegedly concerned to mitigate risk, and the risk affects all of us, and yet even though I went well out of my way to buy one of the most fire-resistant homes in the State, the insurance companies just on general principle were of a mind to reject what was different or unknown to them. It is a myth, in my view, that the capitalistic process works perfectly in this sense to encourage construction of items less likely to result in an insurance payout. Anyway, back to the point, for folks who know in their hearts that they want to make their home purchase consistent, if possible, with some of their sustainability efforts, I encourage them to insist on their goals. They may meet a lot of resistance that may cause them to doubt themselves. Forewarned is fore-armed, so I am passing on (i.e.: warning) that many many people in the real estate business and others, up to and including folks who have some mind and awareness and enthusiasm for sustainability issues, will discourage you from buying a ready-made home along the lines of what you've decided you want (and there is plenty of variance amongst sustainably-minded people as to what they want everything from materials to shape to features is up for debate). You can build your own, which I did not do, but I have the feeling that in a large percentage of cases, this turns out to be a longer haul (both financially and emotionally) than the owners allow themselves to be aware of when they first get into it. This is not to discourage such an impulse... (in fact with a sustainable technology type home, I think it may sometimes be the only way, and I think this particular decision is *very* individual-situation dependent) but to lay out some of what I encountered. All in all I'm extremely pleased that I insisted on things to be my way, and not the way I was told it was normally done, and it looks to me like we could be hearing a lot from Steve, along the same lines. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors
x-charset ISO-8859-1Will this include a canola seed press as well Ed? - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors We hope to be adding a small scale processor, as well, by next fall. Edward Beggs http://www.biofuels.ca On Saturday, April 5, 2003, at 05:36 PM, Tom Gehlen wrote: thanks Craig! TNG - Original Message - From: Craig Pech [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors There is a company near St. Louis that makes such equipment. www.biodieselgear.com . Craig - Original Message - From: Tom Gehlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 1:37 PM Subject: [biofuel] Small biodiesel processors I'm looking for a small, quality, biodiesel process kit/plant---We are new into this issue and want make diesel from canola oil to begin with. I'm hoping to make 100-200 gal. per day minimum. Are there use processors for sale?? Does anyone sell such small kits?? thanks TNG Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM - ~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ /x-charset
Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1306
Right on. I've just about finished Ben. Netanyahou's work, A Durable Peace, and it was quite an eye opener for me. - Original Message - From: Crabb, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:45 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 1306 I can mostly agree with this, MM, but I have absolutely NO sympathy for your ideas on where we are getting our fuel and at what price. The huge price is to the people of the Middle East, and the world, and there's worse to come, from the same culprits - led, first and foremost, by the US and its oil corporations, which have been twisting that whole region out of shape for generations in order to screw cheap oil out of it. Self-inflicted injury, that's all, and VERY minor by comparison - not (yet) severe enough to force the beneficiaries (wilfully blind American consumer energy wastrels) to look the facts in the face at last. crist, someone has been listening to saddam too much. If the US wanted to get Iraqi oil, then why wouldnt they just have overtaken all those wells the last time the iraqi put their hands up after 100 hours of ground fighting? They aren't out to steal oil, or they also would have just overtaken Saudi when they had half a million troops there. Meanwhile Israel hies itself off to the good old US in search of yet another $12 billion in aid, mostly weaponry, much of it no doubt to be used in terrorist acts against unarmed civilians, business as usual. That just doesn't figure in this cosy little where we get our oil from anti-OPEC equation, now does it? Israelis themselves are increasingly opposed to this, vehemently so, but you take no notice - they're wrong, that's that. Or, easier, simply fail to notice it. more dikness. Terrorism is acts against civilians for the political cause. It isnt just defined as violence that 'happens' to be against what you personally would like to see. How about i come into your yard and start beating your dog, and when you try to stop me, i sue you for violence against me.. terrorist! If you will notice, there are no Isrealis blowing up cafeterias.. i wonder why not? lots of civilians there! Perhaps your compatriates will get more sympathy when instead of bombing discos, cafes etc, they tried bombing military targets etc. People seem to care less if you attack military targets instead of people picking their nose and reading a book. You may not like the 'aid'.. but given that they are the only democracy in the region, and people around them outnumber them 70-1..and continually pose threats.. they probably need some help. I wonder what the palestinians do with all the aid the US gives them. .. the most of any country.. including their rich buddies over there. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I've read that straight ethanol can be used in the Model A Ford. Can it also be used in the Model T and other vehicles of the '20's and '30's? I'm currently restoring a 28 Model A and would like to use it as a daily driver. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Small business owners... Tell us what you think! http://us.click.yahoo.com/vO1FAB/txzCAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
