Re: [Biofuel] Stuck in Connecticut with no Diesel - impromptu blending
sorry, pushed send too soon. The problem that I've heard of from using the RUG/veggie oil mix is that over time is can lead to wax buildup in the tank, because the gasoline doesn't completely dissolve all components of the oil, but can leave the heaviest portions of it behind. This can also occur in SVO setups if you don't have the return and inlets close enough in the diesel tank, and purge the filter to the diesel tank when switching -- a blob of cold congealed veggie oil can form near the return line in the diesel tank in the winter, till the entire tank fills up this actually happened to someone in a F250 diesel truck. On 8/7/06, Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's basically what DSE is -- well, aside from being a pyramid scam too. I knew someone who ran his VW jetta (old one) for a year or more on a mixture of waste veggie oil and 15% unleaded gas, till he got a proper SVO setup. On 8/5/06, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YupMarty Phee wrote:What's RUG? (regular unleaded?)Mike Weaver wrote:Had an interesting experience in Conn. on Rte 95 coming home from Mainethis year.I was trying to make New Jersey, where diesel was 2.79, butfinally got so on fuel low I decided to just go ahead and buy a tankfulin Conn.Pulled into two places advertising diesel and found one closedand one out.Next stop same story.Car was well into the red and the fuel light had been on for a while.As I didn't fancy being stuck in100 degree heat with no fuel, I pulled into a Shaw's, bought 2 gallonsof cheap veg. oil and poured it in the tank.I added about 15% RUG and 5% pure Isoprop. to the oil.I figure there may have been anywhere fromhalf a gallon to a gallon and a half of diesel in left in the tank.This brought the gauge back up to 1/8th full, and by slowing down to around 60 mph I got to NJ and filled it.The car ran fine - couldn'tsee any difference.I'd read quite a bit about blending but had been leery of trying it -especially on a new car.I've though about trying it on a used MB 5 banger, or running a 50-50 mix.Anyone else have any experience with it?-Weaver___ Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Stuck in Connecticut with no Diesel - impromptu blending
That's basically what DSE is -- well, aside from being a pyramid scam too. I knew someone who ran his VW jetta (old one) for a year or more on a mixture of waste veggie oil and 15% unleaded gas, till he got a proper SVO setup. On 8/5/06, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YupMarty Phee wrote:What's RUG? (regular unleaded?)Mike Weaver wrote:Had an interesting experience in Conn. on Rte 95 coming home from Mainethis year.I was trying to make New Jersey, where diesel was 2.79, butfinally got so on fuel low I decided to just go ahead and buy a tankfulin Conn.Pulled into two places advertising diesel and found one closedand one out.Next stop same story.Car was well into the red and the fuel light had been on for a while.As I didn't fancy being stuck in100 degree heat with no fuel, I pulled into a Shaw's, bought 2 gallonsof cheap veg. oil and poured it in the tank.I added about 15% RUG and 5% pure Isoprop. to the oil.I figure there may have been anywhere fromhalf a gallon to a gallon and a half of diesel in left in the tank.This brought the gauge back up to 1/8th full, and by slowing down to around 60 mph I got to NJ and filled it.The car ran fine - couldn'tsee any difference.I'd read quite a bit about blending but had been leery of trying it -especially on a new car.I've though about trying it on a used MB 5 banger, or running a 50-50 mix.Anyone else have any experience with it?-Weaver___ Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Stuck in Connecticut with no Diesel - impromptu blending
as it was close to 100 f that day I doubt I even needed much RUG! Zeke Yewdall wrote: sorry, pushed send too soon. The problem that I've heard of from using the RUG/veggie oil mix is that over time is can lead to wax buildup in the tank, because the gasoline doesn't completely dissolve all components of the oil, but can leave the heaviest portions of it behind. This can also occur in SVO setups if you don't have the return and inlets close enough in the diesel tank, and purge the filter to the diesel tank when switching -- a blob of cold congealed veggie oil can form near the return line in the diesel tank in the winter, till the entire tank fills up this actually happened to someone in a F250 diesel truck. On 8/7/06, *Zeke Yewdall* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's basically what DSE is -- well, aside from being a pyramid scam too. I knew someone who ran his VW jetta (old one) for a year or more on a mixture of waste veggie oil and 15% unleaded gas, till he got a proper SVO setup. On 8/5/06, *Mike Weaver* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup Marty Phee wrote: What's RUG? (regular unleaded?) Mike Weaver wrote: Had an interesting experience in Conn. on Rte 95 coming home from Maine this year. I was trying to make New Jersey, where diesel was 2.79, but finally got so on fuel low I decided to just go ahead and buy a tankful in Conn. Pulled into two places advertising diesel and found one closed and one out. Next stop same story. Car was well into the red and the fuel light had been on for a while. As I didn't fancy being stuck in 100 degree heat with no fuel, I pulled into a Shaw's, bought 2 gallons of cheap veg. oil and poured it in the tank. I added about 15% RUG and 5% pure Isoprop. to the oil. I figure there may have been anywhere from half a gallon to a gallon and a half of diesel in left in the tank. This brought the gauge back up to 1/8th full, and by slowing down to around 60 mph I got to NJ and filled it. The car ran fine - couldn't see any difference. I'd read quite a bit about blending but had been leery of trying it - especially on a new car. I've though about trying it on a used MB 5 banger, or running a 50-50 mix. Anyone else have any experience with it? -Weaver ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Stuck in Connecticut with no Diesel - impromptu blending
Had an interesting experience in Conn. on Rte 95 coming home from Maine this year. I was trying to make New Jersey, where diesel was 2.79, but finally got so on fuel low I decided to just go ahead and buy a tankful in Conn. Pulled into two places advertising diesel and found one closed and one out. Next stop same story. Car was well into the red and the fuel light had been on for a while. As I didn't fancy being stuck in 100 degree heat with no fuel, I pulled into a Shaw's, bought 2 gallons of cheap veg. oil and poured it in the tank. I added about 15% RUG and 5% pure Isoprop. to the oil. I figure there may have been anywhere from half a gallon to a gallon and a half of diesel in left in the tank. This brought the gauge back up to 1/8th full, and by slowing down to around 60 mph I got to NJ and filled it. The car ran fine - couldn't see any difference. I'd read quite a bit about blending but had been leery of trying it - especially on a new car. I've though about trying it on a used MB 5 banger, or running a 50-50 mix. Anyone else have any experience with it? -Weaver ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Stuck in Connecticut with no Diesel - impromptu blending
What's RUG? (regular unleaded?) Mike Weaver wrote: Had an interesting experience in Conn. on Rte 95 coming home from Maine this year. I was trying to make New Jersey, where diesel was 2.79, but finally got so on fuel low I decided to just go ahead and buy a tankful in Conn. Pulled into two places advertising diesel and found one closed and one out. Next stop same story. Car was well into the red and the fuel light had been on for a while. As I didn't fancy being stuck in 100 degree heat with no fuel, I pulled into a Shaw's, bought 2 gallons of cheap veg. oil and poured it in the tank. I added about 15% RUG and 5% pure Isoprop. to the oil. I figure there may have been anywhere from half a gallon to a gallon and a half of diesel in left in the tank. This brought the gauge back up to 1/8th full, and by slowing down to around 60 mph I got to NJ and filled it. The car ran fine - couldn't see any difference. I'd read quite a bit about blending but had been leery of trying it - especially on a new car. I've though about trying it on a used MB 5 banger, or running a 50-50 mix. Anyone else have any experience with it? -Weaver ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Stuck in Connecticut with no Diesel - impromptu blending
Yup Marty Phee wrote: What's RUG? (regular unleaded?) Mike Weaver wrote: Had an interesting experience in Conn. on Rte 95 coming home from Maine this year. I was trying to make New Jersey, where diesel was 2.79, but finally got so on fuel low I decided to just go ahead and buy a tankful in Conn. Pulled into two places advertising diesel and found one closed and one out. Next stop same story. Car was well into the red and the fuel light had been on for a while. As I didn't fancy being stuck in 100 degree heat with no fuel, I pulled into a Shaw's, bought 2 gallons of cheap veg. oil and poured it in the tank. I added about 15% RUG and 5% pure Isoprop. to the oil. I figure there may have been anywhere from half a gallon to a gallon and a half of diesel in left in the tank. This brought the gauge back up to 1/8th full, and by slowing down to around 60 mph I got to NJ and filled it. The car ran fine - couldn't see any difference. I'd read quite a bit about blending but had been leery of trying it - especially on a new car. I've though about trying it on a used MB 5 banger, or running a 50-50 mix. Anyone else have any experience with it? -Weaver ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/