Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Redler, I think you owe me a refund. 
I'm sending your pdf's back.

Keith Addison wrote:

Just to add, I wouldn't want anybody to generate any pdf files from 
the material at JtF, whether for sale or for non-sale or for anything.

JtF is not public property, and there's not much about it that's 
haphazard and unplanned. It's not Biofuel list property either.

It's not because we haven't considered it that pdf's and print 
versions are not for sale and not available.

Different media of delivery have different effects, and the 
differences are important even if not very many people notice it. You 
use the right ones for the job.

We'd perhaps use pdf's for a different job, but then it wouldn't just 
be website material dumped into Acrobat as-is, it would mean a 
complete makeover, of a large amount of material. Then again, 
obviously we'd make them available for download at the JtF website, 
that's where people who want the information go anyway.

I wouldn't consider changing our strategy on this (nor anything) for 
the sake of a few mosquitoes biting people at ebay, not even if they 
were biting us too (but they're not biting us).

JtF isn't broken, please don't fix it.

Thanks again for all the suggestions.

Best

Keith



  

Hi Chris, and all who replied, thankyou...



Keith Addison wrote:
  

I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF
website on eBay. He's not the only one.

Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but
it doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much
complicit. Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a
lot of work, and someone else would replace him soon enough. He
doesn't actually do us any direct injury and we're too busy to
chase him, so we grin and bear it. There's one born every minute,
especially on eBay, and probably one yllar17 born every minute too,
but we're more interested in the other 259 people born every minute.




Have you considered a very easy way of stopping this?
Just compile a pdf of all the information and put it up on ebay as a
buy it now for something like $0.01. Offer it via email and donate
the proceeds to a charity! This would stop people profiting off of
other peoples concerns for the environment. Only problem is who
would distribute it! Maybe you could put on your paypal preferences
a link to where it can be downloaded? when someone buys it they will
recieve the invoive and have the link there. Or why not place a
number of ads on ebay quoting the site where it can be downloaded
free? Noone needs to buy the item because the info is given away
freely. I would happily list the item is someone wants to generate a
pdf file.

Chris..
  

... but I don't really want to stop it. It's not bothering us. The
main reason I posted it is in case any other list members have
resources that the guy's selling. It happens all the time, I just got
another complaint about someone called velvet_fist doing the same
thing with JtF stuff at eBay. I think it's a general Internet
phenomenon, it won't go away even if the individuals responsible are
stopped. Like crime. It's not the only phenomenon at work though,
what's the overall effect?

Maybe I just have a slightly different attitude to pests.
Everything's organically grown round here, even websites and mailing
lists, and fighting pests isn't the best way to do it. They're not
pests unless they do you damage. If they are doing you damage it's
not an eradication problem, it's a management problem, and in effect
the pests are telling you where the problem lies. Without them you
wouldn't know it.

Maybe that all sounds a little idealistic, but it works. Not only
that, nothing else works.

Thanks!

Best

Keith




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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Redler
Dude, it wasn't me!

I'm talking to a guy in Nigeria who's trying to secure the inheritance 
of an exiled prince. He said that if I put his name on my bank account, 
they will have a safe place to put the money until everything settles 
down - and I get to keep the interest!!

:-)

- Redler

Mike Weaver wrote:
 Redler, I think you owe me a refund. 
 I'm sending your pdf's back.

 Keith Addison wrote:

   
 Just to add, I wouldn't want anybody to generate any pdf files from 
 the material at JtF, whether for sale or for non-sale or for anything.

 JtF is not public property, and there's not much about it that's 
 haphazard and unplanned. It's not Biofuel list property either.

 It's not because we haven't considered it that pdf's and print 
 versions are not for sale and not available.

 Different media of delivery have different effects, and the 
 differences are important even if not very many people notice it. You 
 use the right ones for the job.

 We'd perhaps use pdf's for a different job, but then it wouldn't just 
 be website material dumped into Acrobat as-is, it would mean a 
 complete makeover, of a large amount of material. Then again, 
 obviously we'd make them available for download at the JtF website, 
 that's where people who want the information go anyway.

 I wouldn't consider changing our strategy on this (nor anything) for 
 the sake of a few mosquitoes biting people at ebay, not even if they 
 were biting us too (but they're not biting us).

 JtF isn't broken, please don't fix it.

 Thanks again for all the suggestions.

 Best

 Keith
 

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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-22 Thread Mike Weaver
Boy, that's a coincidence - I have deal going with a nice man in Nigeria 
who is going the help me with Sani Abacha's fortune!

Nice to know we'll both be rich...

Mike Redler wrote:

Dude, it wasn't me!

I'm talking to a guy in Nigeria who's trying to secure the inheritance 
of an exiled prince. He said that if I put his name on my bank account, 
they will have a safe place to put the money until everything settles 
down - and I get to keep the interest!!

:-)

- Redler

Mike Weaver wrote:
  

Redler, I think you owe me a refund. 
I'm sending your pdf's back.

Keith Addison wrote:

  


Just to add, I wouldn't want anybody to generate any pdf files from 
the material at JtF, whether for sale or for non-sale or for anything.

JtF is not public property, and there's not much about it that's 
haphazard and unplanned. It's not Biofuel list property either.

It's not because we haven't considered it that pdf's and print 
versions are not for sale and not available.

Different media of delivery have different effects, and the 
differences are important even if not very many people notice it. You 
use the right ones for the job.

We'd perhaps use pdf's for a different job, but then it wouldn't just 
be website material dumped into Acrobat as-is, it would mean a 
complete makeover, of a large amount of material. Then again, 
obviously we'd make them available for download at the JtF website, 
that's where people who want the information go anyway.

I wouldn't consider changing our strategy on this (nor anything) for 
the sake of a few mosquitoes biting people at ebay, not even if they 
were biting us too (but they're not biting us).

JtF isn't broken, please don't fix it.

Thanks again for all the suggestions.

Best

Keith

  


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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-21 Thread Chris Bennett
Keith Addison wrote:
 I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF 
 website on eBay. He's not the only one.

 Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but it 
 doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much complicit. 
 Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a lot of work, 
 and someone else would replace him soon enough. He doesn't actually 
 do us any direct injury and we're too busy to chase him, so we grin 
 and bear it. There's one born every minute, especially on eBay, and 
 probably one yllar17 born every minute too, but we're more interested 
 in the other 259 people born every minute.

   
Have you considered a very easy way of stopping this?
Just compile a pdf of all the information and put it up on ebay as a buy 
it now for something like $0.01. Offer it via email and donate the 
proceeds to a charity! This would stop people profiting off of other 
peoples concerns for the environment. Only problem is who would 
distribute it! Maybe you could put on your paypal preferences a link to 
where it can be downloaded? when someone buys it they will recieve the 
invoive and have the link there. Or why not place a number of ads on 
ebay quoting the site where it can be downloaded free? Noone needs to 
buy the item because the info is given away freely. I would happily list 
the item is someone wants to generate a pdf file.

Chris..


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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chris, and all who replied, thankyou...

Keith Addison wrote:
I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF 
website on eBay. He's not the only one.

Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but 
it doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much 
complicit. Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a 
lot of work, and someone else would replace him soon enough. He 
doesn't actually do us any direct injury and we're too busy to 
chase him, so we grin and bear it. There's one born every minute, 
especially on eBay, and probably one yllar17 born every minute too, 
but we're more interested in the other 259 people born every minute.


Have you considered a very easy way of stopping this?
Just compile a pdf of all the information and put it up on ebay as a 
buy it now for something like $0.01. Offer it via email and donate 
the proceeds to a charity! This would stop people profiting off of 
other peoples concerns for the environment. Only problem is who 
would distribute it! Maybe you could put on your paypal preferences 
a link to where it can be downloaded? when someone buys it they will 
recieve the invoive and have the link there. Or why not place a 
number of ads on ebay quoting the site where it can be downloaded 
free? Noone needs to buy the item because the info is given away 
freely. I would happily list the item is someone wants to generate a 
pdf file.

Chris..

... but I don't really want to stop it. It's not bothering us. The 
main reason I posted it is in case any other list members have 
resources that the guy's selling. It happens all the time, I just got 
another complaint about someone called velvet_fist doing the same 
thing with JtF stuff at eBay. I think it's a general Internet 
phenomenon, it won't go away even if the individuals responsible are 
stopped. Like crime. It's not the only phenomenon at work though, 
what's the overall effect?

Maybe I just have a slightly different attitude to pests. 
Everything's organically grown round here, even websites and mailing 
lists, and fighting pests isn't the best way to do it. They're not 
pests unless they do you damage. If they are doing you damage it's 
not an eradication problem, it's a management problem, and in effect 
the pests are telling you where the problem lies. Without them you 
wouldn't know it.

Maybe that all sounds a little idealistic, but it works. Not only 
that, nothing else works.

Thanks!

Best

Keith




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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-21 Thread Keith Addison
Just to add, I wouldn't want anybody to generate any pdf files from 
the material at JtF, whether for sale or for non-sale or for anything.

JtF is not public property, and there's not much about it that's 
haphazard and unplanned. It's not Biofuel list property either.

It's not because we haven't considered it that pdf's and print 
versions are not for sale and not available.

Different media of delivery have different effects, and the 
differences are important even if not very many people notice it. You 
use the right ones for the job.

We'd perhaps use pdf's for a different job, but then it wouldn't just 
be website material dumped into Acrobat as-is, it would mean a 
complete makeover, of a large amount of material. Then again, 
obviously we'd make them available for download at the JtF website, 
that's where people who want the information go anyway.

I wouldn't consider changing our strategy on this (nor anything) for 
the sake of a few mosquitoes biting people at ebay, not even if they 
were biting us too (but they're not biting us).

JtF isn't broken, please don't fix it.

Thanks again for all the suggestions.

Best

Keith



Hi Chris, and all who replied, thankyou...

 Keith Addison wrote:
 I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF
 website on eBay. He's not the only one.
 
 Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but
 it doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much
 complicit. Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a
 lot of work, and someone else would replace him soon enough. He
 doesn't actually do us any direct injury and we're too busy to
 chase him, so we grin and bear it. There's one born every minute,
 especially on eBay, and probably one yllar17 born every minute too,
 but we're more interested in the other 259 people born every minute.
 
 
 Have you considered a very easy way of stopping this?
 Just compile a pdf of all the information and put it up on ebay as a
 buy it now for something like $0.01. Offer it via email and donate
 the proceeds to a charity! This would stop people profiting off of
 other peoples concerns for the environment. Only problem is who
 would distribute it! Maybe you could put on your paypal preferences
 a link to where it can be downloaded? when someone buys it they will
 recieve the invoive and have the link there. Or why not place a
 number of ads on ebay quoting the site where it can be downloaded
 free? Noone needs to buy the item because the info is given away
 freely. I would happily list the item is someone wants to generate a
 pdf file.
 
 Chris..

... but I don't really want to stop it. It's not bothering us. The
main reason I posted it is in case any other list members have
resources that the guy's selling. It happens all the time, I just got
another complaint about someone called velvet_fist doing the same
thing with JtF stuff at eBay. I think it's a general Internet
phenomenon, it won't go away even if the individuals responsible are
stopped. Like crime. It's not the only phenomenon at work though,
what's the overall effect?

Maybe I just have a slightly different attitude to pests.
Everything's organically grown round here, even websites and mailing
lists, and fighting pests isn't the best way to do it. They're not
pests unless they do you damage. If they are doing you damage it's
not an eradication problem, it's a management problem, and in effect
the pests are telling you where the problem lies. Without them you
wouldn't know it.

Maybe that all sounds a little idealistic, but it works. Not only
that, nothing else works.

Thanks!

Best

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-18 Thread Doug Foskey
There is another way... If we all send 'questions' giving the website address 
of JTF,  asking if the information adds to what is on the site for free? - 
Then we point people who read the feedback to our site,  perhaps derail some 
of his sales. Eventually he may get the message.
 Also do we have a copyright statement saying all that is on the site is 'not 
for retail sale without permission of the authors' : this may scare them into 
submission if they think they are leaving themselves open to litigation??

regards Doug


On Thursday 18 May 2006 6:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Keith,
Do you think it would help if we all pressed ebay at once?

 -dave

 On Wednesday, May 17, 2006  3:11 PM, Keith Addison wrote:
 I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF
 website on eBay. He's not the only one.
 
 Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but it
 doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much complicit.
 Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a lot of work,
 and someone else would replace him soon enough. He doesn't actually
 do us any direct injury and we're too busy to chase him, so we grin
 and bear it. There's one born every minute, especially on eBay, and
 probably one yllar17 born every minute too, but we're more interested
 in the other 259 people born every minute.

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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-18 Thread MK DuPree
Dave...check eBay rules first.  This may conflict with their policy of not 
being able to refer to websites (except your eBay store) in an auction. 
Mike DuPree

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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?


I suppose I could put up an auction starting at $.01 with the same products 
and then put in the description something like:

 If you are looking for a product like xxx, check JTF first to see if its 
 free.

 -dave

 On Wednesday, May 17, 2006  3:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 15:52:30 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

Keith,
   Do you think it would help if we all pressed ebay at once?

-dave

On Wednesday, May 17, 2006  3:11 PM, Keith Addison wrote:


I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF
website on eBay. He's not the only one.

Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but it
doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much complicit.
Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a lot of work,
and someone else would replace him soon enough. He doesn't actually
do us any direct injury and we're too busy to chase him, so we grin
and bear it. There's one born every minute, especially on eBay, and
probably one yllar17 born every minute too, but we're more interested
in the other 259 people born every minute.



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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-18 Thread Randall
Keith,

Ebay has some strongly written policies on copyright infringement.

I would start with this link: 
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/questions/vero-ended-item.html

My wife sells quite a few items on ebay and has seen this policy recently 
being used quite effectively!

More information:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/copyrights.html

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/replica-counterfeit.html

--Randall
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:11 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?


I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF
 website on eBay. He's not the only one.

 Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but it
 doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much complicit.
 Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a lot of work,
 and someone else would replace him soon enough. He doesn't actually
 do us any direct injury and we're too busy to chase him, so we grin
 and bear it. There's one born every minute, especially on eBay, and
 probably one yllar17 born every minute too, but we're more interested
 in the other 259 people born every minute.

 Deb Suran sent me further information, she's into hounding the guy,
 and good luck to her. This is his name:

George Powell
15596 Grape Creek Rd
Danville, IL
(217) 443-3934

 Deb said this:

I'm writing to let you know than an eBay vendor, yllar17, has been
stealing free plans available on the internet, including yours (and
mine), and selling them on eBay as his own original copyrighted
work.  For years.  Here's what he currently has for sale at eBay,
all stolen:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZyllar17

How did I find you?  eBay refused to kick him off their service
permanently, and instead only briefly suspended him after I caught
him selling our plans twice.  So I purchased a copy of this thief's
CD collection of all the plans he's selling, copied text from the
PDF files on the CD into google, and found your website.  In an
afternoon of searching I found 10 websites that originally published
some of the files he currently has for sale.  I have attached the
PDFs of your stolen plans from that CD to this e-mail.

 Four whole eBay pages of ripped off plans at the link. Check it out,
 maybe you're there too.

 Best

 Keith


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[Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-17 Thread Keith Addison
I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF 
website on eBay. He's not the only one.

Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but it 
doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much complicit. 
Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a lot of work, 
and someone else would replace him soon enough. He doesn't actually 
do us any direct injury and we're too busy to chase him, so we grin 
and bear it. There's one born every minute, especially on eBay, and 
probably one yllar17 born every minute too, but we're more interested 
in the other 259 people born every minute.

Deb Suran sent me further information, she's into hounding the guy, 
and good luck to her. This is his name:

George Powell
15596 Grape Creek Rd
Danville, IL
(217) 443-3934

Deb said this:

I'm writing to let you know than an eBay vendor, yllar17, has been 
stealing free plans available on the internet, including yours (and 
mine), and selling them on eBay as his own original copyrighted 
work.  For years.  Here's what he currently has for sale at eBay, 
all stolen:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZyllar17

How did I find you?  eBay refused to kick him off their service 
permanently, and instead only briefly suspended him after I caught 
him selling our plans twice.  So I purchased a copy of this thief's 
CD collection of all the plans he's selling, copied text from the 
PDF files on the CD into google, and found your website.  In an 
afternoon of searching I found 10 websites that originally published 
some of the files he currently has for sale.  I have attached the 
PDFs of your stolen plans from that CD to this e-mail.

Four whole eBay pages of ripped off plans at the link. Check it out, 
maybe you're there too.

Best

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-17 Thread DHAJOGLO
Keith,
   Do you think it would help if we all pressed ebay at once?

-dave

On Wednesday, May 17, 2006  3:11 PM, Keith Addison wrote:


I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF
website on eBay. He's not the only one.

Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but it
doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much complicit.
Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a lot of work,
and someone else would replace him soon enough. He doesn't actually
do us any direct injury and we're too busy to chase him, so we grin
and bear it. There's one born every minute, especially on eBay, and
probably one yllar17 born every minute too, but we're more interested
in the other 259 people born every minute.



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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-17 Thread marilyn
If you are a registered eBay user, you can go the URL below and 
post a comment about how  he is stealing things and selling 
them. There is already one such comment. Several hundred 
would not make him look too good.

Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote:
I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF 
website on eBay. He's not the only one.

Quite a few people have reported him and complained about 
him, but it 
doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much complicit. 
Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a lot of work, 
and someone else would replace him soon enough. He doesn't 
actually 
do us any direct injury and we're too busy to chase him, so we 
grin 
and bear it. There's one born every minute, especially on eBay, 
and 
probably one yllar17 born every minute too, but we're more 
interested 
in the other 259 people born every minute.

Deb Suran sent me further information, she's into hounding the 
guy, 
and good luck to her. This is his name:

George Powell
15596 Grape Creek Rd
Danville, IL
(217) 443-3934

Deb said this:

I'm writing to let you know than an eBay vendor, yllar17, has 
been 
stealing free plans available on the internet, including yours 
(and 
mine), and selling them on eBay as his own original 
copyrighted 
work.  For years.  Here's what he currently has for sale at eBay, 
all stolen:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZyllar1
7

How did I find you?  eBay refused to kick him off their service 
permanently, and instead only briefly suspended him after I 
caught 
him selling our plans twice.  So I purchased a copy of this 
thief's 
CD collection of all the plans he's selling, copied text from the 
PDF files on the CD into google, and found your website.  In an 
afternoon of searching I found 10 websites that originally 
published 
some of the files he currently has for sale.  I have attached the 
PDFs of your stolen plans from that CD to this e-mail.

Four whole eBay pages of ripped off plans at the link. Check it 
out, 
maybe you're there too.

Best

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-17 Thread DHAJOGLO
I suppose I could put up an auction starting at $.01 with the same products and 
then put in the description something like:

If you are looking for a product like xxx, check JTF first to see if its free.

-dave

On Wednesday, May 17, 2006  3:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 15:52:30 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

Keith,
   Do you think it would help if we all pressed ebay at once?

-dave

On Wednesday, May 17, 2006  3:11 PM, Keith Addison wrote:


I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF
website on eBay. He's not the only one.

Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but it
doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much complicit.
Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a lot of work,
and someone else would replace him soon enough. He doesn't actually
do us any direct injury and we're too busy to chase him, so we grin
and bear it. There's one born every minute, especially on eBay, and
probably one yllar17 born every minute too, but we're more interested
in the other 259 people born every minute.



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Re: [Biofuel] Are your free plans being sold on eBay?

2006-05-17 Thread Mike Weaver
Oh, nuts.  Well, there's 20 bucks wasted.

Keith Addison wrote:

I keep getting complaints about this guy who sells bits of the JtF 
website on eBay. He's not the only one.

Quite a few people have reported him and complained about him, but it 
doesn't work, eBay won't cooperate, they're pretty much complicit. 
Maybe he could be put out of action but it would be a lot of work, 
and someone else would replace him soon enough. He doesn't actually 
do us any direct injury and we're too busy to chase him, so we grin 
and bear it. There's one born every minute, especially on eBay, and 
probably one yllar17 born every minute too, but we're more interested 
in the other 259 people born every minute.

Deb Suran sent me further information, she's into hounding the guy, 
and good luck to her. This is his name:

  

George Powell
15596 Grape Creek Rd
Danville, IL
(217) 443-3934



Deb said this:

  

I'm writing to let you know than an eBay vendor, yllar17, has been 
stealing free plans available on the internet, including yours (and 
mine), and selling them on eBay as his own original copyrighted 
work.  For years.  Here's what he currently has for sale at eBay, 
all stolen:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZyllar17

How did I find you?  eBay refused to kick him off their service 
permanently, and instead only briefly suspended him after I caught 
him selling our plans twice.  So I purchased a copy of this thief's 
CD collection of all the plans he's selling, copied text from the 
PDF files on the CD into google, and found your website.  In an 
afternoon of searching I found 10 websites that originally published 
some of the files he currently has for sale.  I have attached the 
PDFs of your stolen plans from that CD to this e-mail.



Four whole eBay pages of ripped off plans at the link. Check it out, 
maybe you're there too.

Best

Keith


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