Re: [Biofuel] Australia hands over man to US courts

2007-05-15 Thread Chip Mefford
Mike Weaver wrote:
> Go Linux
> 

Done went,

many many years ago.

and have never looked back.


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Re: [Biofuel] Australia hands over man to US courts

2007-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Amiga or die

doug wrote:

>Careful, I can see this forming into a flame war! (Mine is bigger than yours 
>scenario)
>
> Really, once you wean off the Redmond product, it dosen't matter if its Linux 
>or Mac. The only reason why I probably would not buy a Mac is historical: I 
>used to hate the computer telling me I could not have my disc back: then 
>fighting it with a paperclip!
> regards Doug
>
>On Wednesday 09 May 2007 05:12:56 am Keith Addison wrote:
>  
>
>>>All of it.  Like Joseph Jenkins's book, with Linux, you can either do it
>>>yourself for free, or buy a DVD and support.
>>>I personally like Macs, though I have to say Mr. Jobs has turned out to
>>>have feet of clay...
>>>  
>>>
>>Hasn't he. Quite apart from the environmental issues, and the human
>>rights issues, quite a lot of long-time Mac users don't think too
>>highly of Apple these days, but the machines and OS are streets ahead
>>of anything else nonetheless. Including Linux.
>>
>>This is quite an interesting read:
>>
>>http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/applepeels/2007/04/the_real_apple_.h
>>tml Applepeels:
>>April 25, 2007
>>The real Apple environment
>>
>>Jobs's "Greener Apple" message:
>>http://www.apple.com/hotnews/agreenerapple/
>>
>>And, previously, to his credit, this:
>>
>>http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/
>>Thoughts on Music
>>Steve Jobs
>>February 6, 2007
>>
>>Still can't see why I'd want to "Go Linux", but never mind.
>>
>>Keith
>>
>>
>>
>>>Keith Addison wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>Go Linux
>  
>
Why would I want to do that? That's for Windozers when they wake up,
not for Mac users when they fall asleep.

(How much of that message did you actually read?)

Keith



>Keith Addison wrote:
>  
>
>>>BEFORE he was extradited to the United States, Hew Griffiths, from
>>>Berkeley Vale in NSW, had never even set foot in America. But he had
>>>pirated software produced by American companies.
>>>
>>>Now, having been given up to the US by former justice minister Chris
>>>Ellison, Griffiths, 44, is in a Virginia cell, facing up to 10 years
>>>in an American prison after a guilty plea late last month.
>>>
>>>http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/05/06/1178390140855.html
>>>  
>>>
>>I guess by now we've all seen those heart-rending pictures of poor
>>old Bill Gates sitting at the street corner in New York with his hat
>>out on the pavement, poor feller, driven to pennilessness by
>>dastardly software pirates. It's said 70 percent of all the software
>>in use worldwide is pirated - but for these filthy criminals Bill
>>could have had that money, instead of his paltry $20 billion, and he
>>wouldn't be in this sad state that he's in now. Disgraceful - where's
>>the law when you need it???
>>
>>This is a little difficult to explain though:
>>
>>http://www.josephjenkins.com/books_humanure.html
>>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - The Humanure Handbook
>>
>>This is where Joseph Jenkins sells hard-copies of his popular
>>Humanure Handbook online at his web store. Scroll down a little and
>>you'll find these links:
>>
>>$25.00 US -- BUY NOW or read the book free on the web.
>>
>>And:
>>
>>Buy a Book Now
>>Read the Book for Free
>>BUY IT ON AMAZON.COM
>>
>>Read the Book for Free:
>>http://jenkinspublishing.com/humanure_contents.html
>>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - Humanure Handbook Table of Contents
>>
>>Full text, free online.
>>
>>He's been doing that for at least seven years now, and he's not the
>>only one. Yet the book's sold 30,000 copies, not bad going. No way to
>>know, but I'd bet that if he didn't give it away for nothing online
>>he wouldn't have sold so many.
>>
>>This crap about software piracy always reminds me of a restaurant
>>owner I used to know in Hong Kong. I dropped in at his place for some
>>coffee one afternoon during an economic crisis, the property market
>>had crashed, quite a few folks went out of business and so on.
>>"How're you doing?" I asked him.
>>
>>"Terrible!" he answered. "I'm losing 20,000 dollars a day!"
>>[USD1=HKD8]
>>
>>It turned out that before the crash he'd been making $60,000 a day,
>>but now he was only making $40,000 a day.
>>
>>But I wonder if so many copies of Windoze etc would have been sold
>>but for all the pirating?
>>
>>Best
>>
>>Keith
>>
>>
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Re: [Biofuel] Australia hands over man to US courts

2007-05-08 Thread doug
Careful, I can see this forming into a flame war! (Mine is bigger than yours 
scenario)

 Really, once you wean off the Redmond product, it dosen't matter if its Linux 
or Mac. The only reason why I probably would not buy a Mac is historical: I 
used to hate the computer telling me I could not have my disc back: then 
fighting it with a paperclip!
 regards Doug

On Wednesday 09 May 2007 05:12:56 am Keith Addison wrote:
> >All of it.  Like Joseph Jenkins's book, with Linux, you can either do it
> >yourself for free, or buy a DVD and support.
> >I personally like Macs, though I have to say Mr. Jobs has turned out to
> >have feet of clay...
>
> Hasn't he. Quite apart from the environmental issues, and the human
> rights issues, quite a lot of long-time Mac users don't think too
> highly of Apple these days, but the machines and OS are streets ahead
> of anything else nonetheless. Including Linux.
>
> This is quite an interesting read:
>
> http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/applepeels/2007/04/the_real_apple_.h
>tml Applepeels:
> April 25, 2007
> The real Apple environment
>
> Jobs's "Greener Apple" message:
> http://www.apple.com/hotnews/agreenerapple/
>
> And, previously, to his credit, this:
>
> http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/
> Thoughts on Music
> Steve Jobs
> February 6, 2007
>
> Still can't see why I'd want to "Go Linux", but never mind.
>
> Keith
>
> >Keith Addison wrote:
> > >>Go Linux
> > >
> > >Why would I want to do that? That's for Windozers when they wake up,
> > >not for Mac users when they fall asleep.
> > >
> > >(How much of that message did you actually read?)
> > >
> > >Keith
> > >
> > >>Keith Addison wrote:
> > BEFORE he was extradited to the United States, Hew Griffiths, from
> > Berkeley Vale in NSW, had never even set foot in America. But he had
> > pirated software produced by American companies.
> > 
> > Now, having been given up to the US by former justice minister Chris
> > Ellison, Griffiths, 44, is in a Virginia cell, facing up to 10 years
> >  in an American prison after a guilty plea late last month.
> > 
> > http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/05/06/1178390140855.html
> > >>>
> > >>>I guess by now we've all seen those heart-rending pictures of poor
> > >>>old Bill Gates sitting at the street corner in New York with his hat
> > >>>out on the pavement, poor feller, driven to pennilessness by
> > >>>dastardly software pirates. It's said 70 percent of all the software
> > >>>in use worldwide is pirated - but for these filthy criminals Bill
> > >>>could have had that money, instead of his paltry $20 billion, and he
> > >>>wouldn't be in this sad state that he's in now. Disgraceful - where's
> > >>>the law when you need it???
> > >>>
> > >>>This is a little difficult to explain though:
> > >>>
> > >>>http://www.josephjenkins.com/books_humanure.html
> > >>>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - The Humanure Handbook
> > >>>
> > >>>This is where Joseph Jenkins sells hard-copies of his popular
> > >>>Humanure Handbook online at his web store. Scroll down a little and
> > >>>you'll find these links:
> > >>>
> > >>>$25.00 US -- BUY NOW or read the book free on the web.
> > >>>
> > >>>And:
> > >>>
> > >>>Buy a Book Now
> > >>>Read the Book for Free
> > >>>BUY IT ON AMAZON.COM
> > >>>
> > >>>Read the Book for Free:
> > >>>http://jenkinspublishing.com/humanure_contents.html
> > >>>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - Humanure Handbook Table of Contents
> > >>>
> > >>>Full text, free online.
> > >>>
> > >>>He's been doing that for at least seven years now, and he's not the
> > >>>only one. Yet the book's sold 30,000 copies, not bad going. No way to
> > >>>know, but I'd bet that if he didn't give it away for nothing online
> > >>>he wouldn't have sold so many.
> > >>>
> > >>>This crap about software piracy always reminds me of a restaurant
> > >>>owner I used to know in Hong Kong. I dropped in at his place for some
> > >>>coffee one afternoon during an economic crisis, the property market
> > >>>had crashed, quite a few folks went out of business and so on.
> > >>>"How're you doing?" I asked him.
> > >>>
> > >>>"Terrible!" he answered. "I'm losing 20,000 dollars a day!"
> > >>> [USD1=HKD8]
> > >>>
> > >>>It turned out that before the crash he'd been making $60,000 a day,
> > >>>but now he was only making $40,000 a day.
> > >>>
> > >>>But I wonder if so many copies of Windoze etc would have been sold
> > >>>but for all the pirating?
> > >>>
> > >>>Best
> > >>>
> > >>>Keith
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Australia hands over man to US courts

2007-05-08 Thread Keith Addison
>All of it.  Like Joseph Jenkins's book, with Linux, you can either do it
>yourself for free, or buy a DVD and support.
>I personally like Macs, though I have to say Mr. Jobs has turned out to
>have feet of clay...

Hasn't he. Quite apart from the environmental issues, and the human 
rights issues, quite a lot of long-time Mac users don't think too 
highly of Apple these days, but the machines and OS are streets ahead 
of anything else nonetheless. Including Linux.

This is quite an interesting read:

http://viewfromthemountain.typepad.com/applepeels/2007/04/the_real_apple_.html
Applepeels:
April 25, 2007
The real Apple environment

Jobs's "Greener Apple" message:
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/agreenerapple/

And, previously, to his credit, this:

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughtsonmusic/
Thoughts on Music
Steve Jobs
February 6, 2007

Still can't see why I'd want to "Go Linux", but never mind.

Keith


>Keith Addison wrote:
>
> >>Go Linux
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Why would I want to do that? That's for Windozers when they wake up,
> >not for Mac users when they fall asleep.
> >
> >(How much of that message did you actually read?)
> >
> >Keith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Keith Addison wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> BEFORE he was extradited to the United States, Hew Griffiths, from
> Berkeley Vale in NSW, had never even set foot in America. But he had
> pirated software produced by American companies.
> 
> Now, having been given up to the US by former justice minister Chris
> Ellison, Griffiths, 44, is in a Virginia cell, facing up to 10 years in
> an American prison after a guilty plea late last month.
> 
> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/05/06/1178390140855.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>>I guess by now we've all seen those heart-rending pictures of poor
> >>>old Bill Gates sitting at the street corner in New York with his hat
> >>>out on the pavement, poor feller, driven to pennilessness by
> >>>dastardly software pirates. It's said 70 percent of all the software
> >>>in use worldwide is pirated - but for these filthy criminals Bill
> >>>could have had that money, instead of his paltry $20 billion, and he
> >>>wouldn't be in this sad state that he's in now. Disgraceful - where's
> >>>the law when you need it???
> >>>
> >>>This is a little difficult to explain though:
> >>>
> >>>http://www.josephjenkins.com/books_humanure.html
> >>>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - The Humanure Handbook
> >>>
> >>>This is where Joseph Jenkins sells hard-copies of his popular
> >>>Humanure Handbook online at his web store. Scroll down a little and
> >>>you'll find these links:
> >>>
> >>>$25.00 US -- BUY NOW or read the book free on the web.
> >>>
> >>>And:
> >>>
> >>>Buy a Book Now
> >>>Read the Book for Free
> >>>BUY IT ON AMAZON.COM
> >>>
> >>>Read the Book for Free:
> >>>http://jenkinspublishing.com/humanure_contents.html
> >>>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - Humanure Handbook Table of Contents
> >>>
> >>>Full text, free online.
> >>>
> >>>He's been doing that for at least seven years now, and he's not the
> >>>only one. Yet the book's sold 30,000 copies, not bad going. No way to
> >>>know, but I'd bet that if he didn't give it away for nothing online
> >>>he wouldn't have sold so many.
> >>>
> >>>This crap about software piracy always reminds me of a restaurant
> >>>owner I used to know in Hong Kong. I dropped in at his place for some
> >>>coffee one afternoon during an economic crisis, the property market
> >>>had crashed, quite a few folks went out of business and so on.
> >>>"How're you doing?" I asked him.
> >>>
> >>>"Terrible!" he answered. "I'm losing 20,000 dollars a day!" [USD1=HKD8]
> >>>
> >>>It turned out that before the crash he'd been making $60,000 a day,
> >>>but now he was only making $40,000 a day.
> >>>
> >>>But I wonder if so many copies of Windoze etc would have been sold
> >>>but for all the pirating?
> >>>
> >>>Best
> >>>
> >>>Keith
> >>>
> >>>


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Re: [Biofuel] Australia hands over man to US courts

2007-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
All of it.  Like Joseph Jenkins's book, with Linux, you can either do it 
yourself for free, or buy a DVD and support.
I personally like Macs, though I have to say Mr. Jobs has turned out to 
have feet of clay...


Keith Addison wrote:

>>Go Linux
>>
>>
>
>Why would I want to do that? That's for Windozers when they wake up, 
>not for Mac users when they fall asleep.
>
>(How much of that message did you actually read?)
>
>Keith
>
>
>  
>
>>Keith Addison wrote:
>>
>>
>>
BEFORE he was extradited to the United States, Hew Griffiths, from
Berkeley Vale in NSW, had never even set foot in America. But he had
pirated software produced by American companies.

Now, having been given up to the US by former justice minister Chris
Ellison, Griffiths, 44, is in a Virginia cell, facing up to 10 years in
an American prison after a guilty plea late last month.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/05/06/1178390140855.html




>>>I guess by now we've all seen those heart-rending pictures of poor
>>>old Bill Gates sitting at the street corner in New York with his hat
>>>out on the pavement, poor feller, driven to pennilessness by
>>>dastardly software pirates. It's said 70 percent of all the software
>>>in use worldwide is pirated - but for these filthy criminals Bill
>>>could have had that money, instead of his paltry $20 billion, and he
>>>wouldn't be in this sad state that he's in now. Disgraceful - where's
>>>the law when you need it???
>>>
>>>This is a little difficult to explain though:
>>>
>>>http://www.josephjenkins.com/books_humanure.html
>>>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - The Humanure Handbook
>>>
>>>This is where Joseph Jenkins sells hard-copies of his popular
>>>Humanure Handbook online at his web store. Scroll down a little and
>>>you'll find these links:
>>>
>>>$25.00 US -- BUY NOW or read the book free on the web.
>>>
>>>And:
>>>
>>>Buy a Book Now
>>>Read the Book for Free
>>>BUY IT ON AMAZON.COM
>>>
>>>Read the Book for Free:
>>>http://jenkinspublishing.com/humanure_contents.html
>>>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - Humanure Handbook Table of Contents
>>>
>>>Full text, free online.
>>>
>>>He's been doing that for at least seven years now, and he's not the
>>>only one. Yet the book's sold 30,000 copies, not bad going. No way to
>>>know, but I'd bet that if he didn't give it away for nothing online
>>>he wouldn't have sold so many.
>>>
>>>This crap about software piracy always reminds me of a restaurant
>>>owner I used to know in Hong Kong. I dropped in at his place for some
>>>coffee one afternoon during an economic crisis, the property market
>>>had crashed, quite a few folks went out of business and so on.
>>>"How're you doing?" I asked him.
>>>
>>>"Terrible!" he answered. "I'm losing 20,000 dollars a day!" [USD1=HKD8]
>>>
>>>It turned out that before the crash he'd been making $60,000 a day,
>>>but now he was only making $40,000 a day.
>>>
>>>But I wonder if so many copies of Windoze etc would have been sold
>>>but for all the pirating?
>>>
>>>Best
>>>
>>>Keith
>>>  
>>>
>
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Australia hands over man to US courts

2007-05-08 Thread Keith Addison
>Go Linux

Why would I want to do that? That's for Windozers when they wake up, 
not for Mac users when they fall asleep.

(How much of that message did you actually read?)

Keith


>Keith Addison wrote:
>
> >>BEFORE he was extradited to the United States, Hew Griffiths, from
> >>Berkeley Vale in NSW, had never even set foot in America. But he had
> >>pirated software produced by American companies.
> >>
> >>Now, having been given up to the US by former justice minister Chris
> >>Ellison, Griffiths, 44, is in a Virginia cell, facing up to 10 years in
> >>an American prison after a guilty plea late last month.
> >>
> >>http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/05/06/1178390140855.html
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I guess by now we've all seen those heart-rending pictures of poor
> >old Bill Gates sitting at the street corner in New York with his hat
> >out on the pavement, poor feller, driven to pennilessness by
> >dastardly software pirates. It's said 70 percent of all the software
> >in use worldwide is pirated - but for these filthy criminals Bill
> >could have had that money, instead of his paltry $20 billion, and he
> >wouldn't be in this sad state that he's in now. Disgraceful - where's
> >the law when you need it???
> >
> >This is a little difficult to explain though:
> >
> >http://www.josephjenkins.com/books_humanure.html
> >Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - The Humanure Handbook
> >
> >This is where Joseph Jenkins sells hard-copies of his popular
> >Humanure Handbook online at his web store. Scroll down a little and
> >you'll find these links:
> >
> >$25.00 US -- BUY NOW or read the book free on the web.
> >
> >And:
> >
> >Buy a Book Now
> >Read the Book for Free
> >BUY IT ON AMAZON.COM
> >
> >Read the Book for Free:
> >http://jenkinspublishing.com/humanure_contents.html
> >Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - Humanure Handbook Table of Contents
> >
> >Full text, free online.
> >
> >He's been doing that for at least seven years now, and he's not the
> >only one. Yet the book's sold 30,000 copies, not bad going. No way to
> >know, but I'd bet that if he didn't give it away for nothing online
> >he wouldn't have sold so many.
> >
> >This crap about software piracy always reminds me of a restaurant
> >owner I used to know in Hong Kong. I dropped in at his place for some
> >coffee one afternoon during an economic crisis, the property market
> >had crashed, quite a few folks went out of business and so on.
> >"How're you doing?" I asked him.
> >
> >"Terrible!" he answered. "I'm losing 20,000 dollars a day!" [USD1=HKD8]
> >
> >It turned out that before the crash he'd been making $60,000 a day,
> >but now he was only making $40,000 a day.
> >
> >But I wonder if so many copies of Windoze etc would have been sold
> >but for all the pirating?
> >
> >Best
> >
> >Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] Australia hands over man to US courts

2007-05-08 Thread Joe Street


"Givit away Givit away Givit away Givit away now"- Red Hot Chili Peppers

Joe

Keith Addison wrote:

snip

>
>This is a little difficult to explain though:
>
>http://www.josephjenkins.com/books_humanure.html
>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - The Humanure Handbook
>
>This is where Joseph Jenkins sells hard-copies of his popular 
>Humanure Handbook online at his web store. Scroll down a little and 
>you'll find these links:
>
>$25.00 US -- BUY NOW or read the book free on the web.
>
>And:
>
>Buy a Book Now
>Read the Book for Free
>BUY IT ON AMAZON.COM
> 
>Read the Book for Free:
>http://jenkinspublishing.com/humanure_contents.html
>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - Humanure Handbook Table of Contents
>
>Full text, free online.
>
>He's been doing that for at least seven years now, and he's not the 
>only one. Yet the book's sold 30,000 copies, not bad going. No way to 
>know, but I'd bet that if he didn't give it away for nothing online 
>he wouldn't have sold so many.
>
>This crap about software piracy always reminds me of a restaurant 
>owner I used to know in Hong Kong. I dropped in at his place for some 
>coffee one afternoon during an economic crisis, the property market 
>had crashed, quite a few folks went out of business and so on. 
>"How're you doing?" I asked him.
>
>"Terrible!" he answered. "I'm losing 20,000 dollars a day!" [USD1=HKD8]
>
>It turned out that before the crash he'd been making $60,000 a day, 
>but now he was only making $40,000 a day.
>
>But I wonder if so many copies of Windoze etc would have been sold 
>but for all the pirating?
>
>Best
>
>Keith
>
>  
>


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Re: [Biofuel] Australia hands over man to US courts

2007-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Go Linux

Keith Addison wrote:

>>BEFORE he was extradited to the United States, Hew Griffiths, from
>>Berkeley Vale in NSW, had never even set foot in America. But he had
>>pirated software produced by American companies.
>>
>>Now, having been given up to the US by former justice minister Chris
>>Ellison, Griffiths, 44, is in a Virginia cell, facing up to 10 years in
>>an American prison after a guilty plea late last month.
>>
>>http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/05/06/1178390140855.html
>>
>>
>
>I guess by now we've all seen those heart-rending pictures of poor 
>old Bill Gates sitting at the street corner in New York with his hat 
>out on the pavement, poor feller, driven to pennilessness by 
>dastardly software pirates. It's said 70 percent of all the software 
>in use worldwide is pirated - but for these filthy criminals Bill 
>could have had that money, instead of his paltry $20 billion, and he 
>wouldn't be in this sad state that he's in now. Disgraceful - where's 
>the law when you need it???
>
>This is a little difficult to explain though:
>
>http://www.josephjenkins.com/books_humanure.html
>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - The Humanure Handbook
>
>This is where Joseph Jenkins sells hard-copies of his popular 
>Humanure Handbook online at his web store. Scroll down a little and 
>you'll find these links:
>
>$25.00 US -- BUY NOW or read the book free on the web.
>
>And:
>
>Buy a Book Now
>Read the Book for Free
>BUY IT ON AMAZON.COM
> 
>Read the Book for Free:
>http://jenkinspublishing.com/humanure_contents.html
>Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - Humanure Handbook Table of Contents
>
>Full text, free online.
>
>He's been doing that for at least seven years now, and he's not the 
>only one. Yet the book's sold 30,000 copies, not bad going. No way to 
>know, but I'd bet that if he didn't give it away for nothing online 
>he wouldn't have sold so many.
>
>This crap about software piracy always reminds me of a restaurant 
>owner I used to know in Hong Kong. I dropped in at his place for some 
>coffee one afternoon during an economic crisis, the property market 
>had crashed, quite a few folks went out of business and so on. 
>"How're you doing?" I asked him.
>
>"Terrible!" he answered. "I'm losing 20,000 dollars a day!" [USD1=HKD8]
>
>It turned out that before the crash he'd been making $60,000 a day, 
>but now he was only making $40,000 a day.
>
>But I wonder if so many copies of Windoze etc would have been sold 
>but for all the pirating?
>
>Best
>
>Keith
>
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Australia hands over man to US courts

2007-05-07 Thread Keith Addison
>BEFORE he was extradited to the United States, Hew Griffiths, from
>Berkeley Vale in NSW, had never even set foot in America. But he had
>pirated software produced by American companies.
>
>Now, having been given up to the US by former justice minister Chris
>Ellison, Griffiths, 44, is in a Virginia cell, facing up to 10 years in
>an American prison after a guilty plea late last month.
>
>http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/05/06/1178390140855.html

I guess by now we've all seen those heart-rending pictures of poor 
old Bill Gates sitting at the street corner in New York with his hat 
out on the pavement, poor feller, driven to pennilessness by 
dastardly software pirates. It's said 70 percent of all the software 
in use worldwide is pirated - but for these filthy criminals Bill 
could have had that money, instead of his paltry $20 billion, and he 
wouldn't be in this sad state that he's in now. Disgraceful - where's 
the law when you need it???

This is a little difficult to explain though:

http://www.josephjenkins.com/books_humanure.html
Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - The Humanure Handbook

This is where Joseph Jenkins sells hard-copies of his popular 
Humanure Handbook online at his web store. Scroll down a little and 
you'll find these links:

$25.00 US -- BUY NOW or read the book free on the web.

And:

Buy a Book Now
Read the Book for Free
BUY IT ON AMAZON.COM
 
Read the Book for Free:
http://jenkinspublishing.com/humanure_contents.html
Joseph Jenkins, Inc. - Humanure Handbook Table of Contents

Full text, free online.

He's been doing that for at least seven years now, and he's not the 
only one. Yet the book's sold 30,000 copies, not bad going. No way to 
know, but I'd bet that if he didn't give it away for nothing online 
he wouldn't have sold so many.

This crap about software piracy always reminds me of a restaurant 
owner I used to know in Hong Kong. I dropped in at his place for some 
coffee one afternoon during an economic crisis, the property market 
had crashed, quite a few folks went out of business and so on. 
"How're you doing?" I asked him.

"Terrible!" he answered. "I'm losing 20,000 dollars a day!" [USD1=HKD8]

It turned out that before the crash he'd been making $60,000 a day, 
but now he was only making $40,000 a day.

But I wonder if so many copies of Windoze etc would have been sold 
but for all the pirating?

Best

Keith


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[Biofuel] Australia hands over man to US courts

2007-05-07 Thread Mike Weaver
BEFORE he was extradited to the United States, Hew Griffiths, from 
Berkeley Vale in NSW, had never even set foot in America. But he had 
pirated software produced by American companies.

Now, having been given up to the US by former justice minister Chris 
Ellison, Griffiths, 44, is in a Virginia cell, facing up to 10 years in 
an American prison after a guilty plea late last month.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/05/06/1178390140855.html


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