Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
I wish people would stop saying this, it's endlessly regurgitated but it's not true: The original combustion fuel used by Rudolf Diesel in 1900 in his prototype compression engine was derived from peanut oil, the first ever biodiesel. - Australian Biodiesel Group This is even worse - peanut oil is biodiesel, good grief. Also... The chemistry of transesterification has been well understood for many years. However, until recently, the leading technologies have been extremely expensive and/or cumbersome due to inconsistent production quality. The Europeans have dealt with these issues by limiting the preferred feedstock for biodiesel produced there to canola oil. LOL! What BS. Just another commercial operation that ain't gonna change the world, nor anything much, IMNSHO. Best Keith Kirk McLoren wrote: Sulphur is not added as a lubricant. WHere do they get that rubbish? Kirk It's not deliberately added, but sulfur does indeed provide a lot of lubrication for the injector pump. My understanding is that it needs to be replaced in very low sulfur fuel, BD makes a great replacement, as they point out here. In effect, they're right, it's just that it's not added intentionally. --- David */Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Spotted this in the March 2006 C3 Views. First I have heard of this group in Calgary. http://www.climatechangecentral.com/resources/c3views/C3_Views_March_0 6.pdf page 15 === French fries, fried chicken and other fast food may have a bad rap for their calorie-laden fat content. But the greasiest junk food may provide the fuel of choice for Canadaís trucking industry and other diesel-powered machinery in the near future. At least, thatís what a group of Alberta entrepreneurs is hoping as they prepare to open the provinceís first biodiesel refinery. ìWe think thereís a lot of potential,î says Patrick Luft, co-founder of the Calgary Biodiesel Centre, which has plans to begin producing up to 20 million litres of biodiesel per year in a plant on the outskirts of Calgary. ìThe beauty of biodiesel is that itís a renewable fuel, it lubricates engines a lot better and it reduces greenhouse gas emissions as well.î Luft and partner Perry Toms have obtained a licence to use technology, developed by the Australian Biodiesel Group, capable of turning used cooking oil and tallow from southern Alberta slaughterhouses into fuel that can power diesel engines.ìBecause the industry is in its infancy,weíll have to start off using new canola oil, but it will be capable of using tallow, used cooking oils and non-edible vegetable oil products,î Luft says.ìIt will be a modular plant so it can be quickly ramped up as demand grows.î Biodiesel demand is expected to balloon when a new air pollution law comes into effect in June, dropping the maximum allowable sulphur content in diesel fuel to 15 parts per million (ppm) from 500 ppm. Sulphur is added to diesel fuel as an engine lubricant. A two-per-cent addition of biodiesel is considered to have the same lubricating power as 500 ppm of sulphur. The Calgary Biodiesel Centre is scouting for possible plant sites near Balzac and in the Municipal District of Rockyview and hopes to begin construction this summer. Once the plant is operating, Luft says, it will be an easily-accessible source of biodiesel for fleets and organizations like the City of Calgary, which has begun using biodiesel in its vehicle fleet. ìThere are a lot of potential customers,î says Luft,ìbecause more and more people are becoming aware of the benefits of biodiesel.î === -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
Kirk McLoren wrote: Sulphur is not added as a lubricant. WHere do they get that rubbish? Kirk */Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Biodiesel demand is expected to balloon when a new air pollution law comes into effect in June, dropping the maximum allowable s! ulphur content in diesel fuel to 15 parts per million (ppm) from 500 ppm. Sulphur is added to diesel fuel as an engine lubricant. A two-per-cent addition of biodiesel is considered to have the same lubricating power as 500 ppm of sulphur. You are correct - sulfur is not a lubricant. Rather, it seems to me this misunderstanding is the result of sloppy language and sloppy logic. Some of the industrial processes used to remove sulfur *also* reduce lubricity of the fuel. My understanding is that some low sulfur diesel historically had lubricity related problems for this reason. If you are a mechanic and notice that your customers running LSD have lubricity issues while those that use HSD don't, you might mistakenly conclude that sulfur adds lubricity to the fuel. From that point, the logical leap to the idea that sulfur is *added* to the fuel isn't that far fetched. After all, we did add lead to gasoline for knock until the treehuggers made us stop. ;) jh ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
Re: "the leading technologies have been extremely expensive and/or cumbersome due to inconsistent production quality."Besides providing a hefty income to the government, the patent office is overflowing with IP which exists exclusively for the sake of making money.That said, there are two ways to make IP profitable (IMO):1.) Innovation:Profit is most often a function of how muchan ideamakes everything else obsolete.2.) Exclusivity: CommercializeIP in a way that convinces people that it can't be easilyduplicated for their own use. Reinforce exclusivity by writing patents in a way that greatly limits future inventors (i.e. the Wright brothers basically wanted rightsto everything that could fly) and campaign against the credibility of competing ideas.I see the above statementas a marketing attempt to make the process exclusive to commercial interests.Mike Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish people would stop saying this, it's endlessly regurgitated but it's not true:"The original combustion fuel used by Rudolf Diesel in 1900 in his prototype compression engine was derived from peanut oil, the first ever biodiesel." - Australian Biodiesel GroupThis is even worse - peanut oil is biodiesel, good grief.Also... "The chemistry of transesterification has been well understood for many years. However, until recently, the leading technologies have been extremely expensive and/or cumbersome due to inconsistent production quality. The Europeans have dealt with these issues by limiting the preferred feedstock for biodiesel produced there to canola oil."LOL! What BS.Just another commercial operation that ain't gonna change the world, nor anything much, IMNSHO.BestKeithKirk McLoren wrote: Sulphur is not added as a lubricant. WHere do they get that rubbish? KirkIt's not deliberately added, but sulfur does indeed provide a lot oflubrication for the injector pump. My understanding is that it needs tobe replaced in very low sulfur fuel, BD makes a great replacement, asthey point out here.In effect, they're right, it's just that it's not added intentionally.--- David */Darryl McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: Spotted this in the March 2006 C3 Views. First I have heard of this group in Calgary. http://www.climatechangecentral.com/resources/c3views/C3_Views_March_0 6.pdf page 15 === French fries, fried chicken and other fast food may have a bad rap for their calorie-laden fat content. But the greasiest junk food may provide the fuel of choice for Canadaís trucking industry and other diesel-powered machinery in the near future. At least, thatís what a group of Alberta entrepreneurs is hoping as they prepare to open the provinceís first biodiesel refinery. ìWe think thereís a lot of potential,î says Patrick Luft, co-founder of the Calgary Biodiesel Centre, which has plans to begin producing up to 20 million litres of biodiesel per year in a plant on the outskirts of Calgary. ìThe beauty of biodiesel is that itís a renewable fuel, it lubricates engines a lot better and it reduces greenhouse gas emissions as well.î Luft and partner Perry Toms have obtained a licence to use technology, developed by the Australian Biodiesel Group, capable of turning used cooking oil and tallow from southern Alberta slaughterhouses into fuel that can power diesel engines.ìBecause the industry is in its infancy,weíll have to start off using new canola oil, but it will be capable of using tallow, used cooking oils and non-edible vegetable oil products,î Luft says.ìIt will be a modular plant so it can be quickly ramped up as demand grows.î Biodiesel demand is expected to balloon when a new air pollution law comes into effect in June, dropping the maximum allowable sulphur content in diesel fuel to 15 parts per million (ppm) from 500 ppm. Sulphur is added to diesel fuel as an engine lubricant. A two-per-cent addition of biodiesel is considered to have the same lubricating power as 500 ppm of sulphur. The Calgary Biodiesel Centre is scouting for possible plant sites near Balzac and in the Municipal District of Rockyview and hopes to begin construction this summer. Once the plant is operating, Luft says, it will be an easily-accessible source of biodiesel for fleets and organizations like the City of Calgary, which has begun using biodiesel in its vehicle fleet. ìThere are a lot of potential customers,î says Luft,ìbecause more and more people are becoming aware of the benefits of biodiesel.î === -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will?___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and
Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
Oh let them have their moment in the sun. The rain will soon fall on their parade and they'll come running to you and this list asking for advice and what-not. I'm trusting you will embrace them with open arms when that happens. Kenji Fuse On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Keith Addison wrote: I wish people would stop saying this, it's endlessly regurgitated but it's not true: The original combustion fuel used by Rudolf Diesel in 1900 in his prototype compression engine was derived from peanut oil, the first ever biodiesel. - Australian Biodiesel Group This is even worse - peanut oil is biodiesel, good grief. Also... The chemistry of transesterification has been well understood for many years. However, until recently, the leading technologies have been extremely expensive and/or cumbersome due to inconsistent production quality. The Europeans have dealt with these issues by limiting the preferred feedstock for biodiesel produced there to canola oil. LOL! What BS. Just another commercial operation that ain't gonna change the world, nor anything much, IMNSHO. Best Keith Kirk McLoren wrote: Sulphur is not added as a lubricant. WHere do they get that rubbish? Kirk It's not deliberately added, but sulfur does indeed provide a lot of lubrication for the injector pump. My understanding is that it needs to be replaced in very low sulfur fuel, BD makes a great replacement, as they point out here. In effect, they're right, it's just that it's not added intentionally. --- David */Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Spotted this in the March 2006 C3 Views. First I have heard of this group in Calgary. http://www.climatechangecentral.com/resources/c3views/C3_Views_March_0 6.pdf page 15 === French fries, fried chicken and other fast food may have a bad rap for their calorie-laden fat content. But the greasiest junk food may provide the fuel of choice for Canadaís trucking industry and other diesel-powered machinery in the near future. At least, thatís what a group of Alberta entrepreneurs is hoping as they prepare to open the provinceís first biodiesel refinery. ìWe think thereís a lot of potential,î says Patrick Luft, co-founder of the Calgary Biodiesel Centre, which has plans to begin producing up to 20 million litres of biodiesel per year in a plant on the outskirts of Calgary. ìThe beauty of biodiesel is that itís a renewable fuel, it lubricates engines a lot better and it reduces greenhouse gas emissions as well.î Luft and partner Perry Toms have obtained a licence to use technology, developed by the Australian Biodiesel Group, capable of turning used cooking oil and tallow from southern Alberta slaughterhouses into fuel that can power diesel engines.ìBecause the industry is in its infancy,weíll have to start off using new canola oil, but it will be capable of using tallow, used cooking oils and non-edible vegetable oil products,î Luft says.ìIt will be a modular plant so it can be quickly ramped up as demand grows.î Biodiesel demand is expected to balloon when a new air pollution law comes into effect in June, dropping the maximum allowable sulphur content in diesel fuel to 15 parts per million (ppm) from 500 ppm. Sulphur is added to diesel fuel as an engine lubricant. A two-per-cent addition of biodiesel is considered to have the same lubricating power as 500 ppm of sulphur. The Calgary Biodiesel Centre is scouting for possible plant sites near Balzac and in the Municipal District of Rockyview and hopes to begin construction this summer. Once the plant is operating, Luft says, it will be an easily-accessible source of biodiesel for fleets and organizations like the City of Calgary, which has begun using biodiesel in its vehicle fleet. ìThere are a lot of potential customers,î says Luft,ìbecause more and more people are becoming aware of the benefits of biodiesel.î === -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
It was my understanding that the lack of sulpher is not necessarily the cause of low lubricity in the low sulphur fuel, but that the process of removing the sulphur also changed the fuel to have less lubricity. Anyone know exactly how they remove the sulphur, and what it does to the lubricity of the fuel? Or is sulphur actually a lubricant? On 3/7/06, David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk McLoren wrote: Sulphur is not added as a lubricant. WHere do they get that rubbish? Kirk It's not deliberately added, but sulfur does indeed provide a lot of lubrication for the injector pump. My understanding is that it needs to be replaced in very low sulfur fuel, BD makes a great replacement, as they point out here. In effect, they're right, it's just that it's not added intentionally. --- David */Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Spotted this in the March 2006 C3 Views. First I have heard of this group in Calgary. http://www.climatechangecentral.com/resources/c3views/C3_Views_March_06.pdf page 15 === French fries, fried chicken and other fast food may have a bad rap for their calorie-laden fat content. But the greasiest junk food may provide the fuel of choice for Canada's trucking industry and other diesel-powered machinery in the near future. At least, that's what a group of Alberta entrepreneurs is hoping as they prepare to open the province's first biodiesel refinery. We think there's a lot of potential, says Patrick Luft, co-founder of the Calgary Biodiesel Centre, which has plans to begin producing up to 20 million litres of biodiesel per year in a plant on the outskirts of Calgary. The beauty of biodiesel is that it's a renewable fuel, it lubricates engines a lot better and it reduces greenhouse gas emissions as well. Luft and partner Perry Toms have obtained a licence to use technology, developed by the Australian Biodiesel Group, capable of turning used cooking oil and tallow from southern Alberta slaughterhouses into fuel that can power diesel engines.Because the industry is in its infancy,we'll have to start off using new canola oil, but it will be capable of using tallow, used cooking oils and non-edible vegetable oil products, Luft says.It will be a modular plant so it can be quickly ramped up as demand grows. Biodiesel demand is expected to balloon when a new air pollution law comes into effect in June, dropping the maximum allowable sulphur content in diesel fuel to 15 parts per million (ppm) from 500 ppm. Sulphur is added to diesel fuel as an engine lubricant. A two-per-cent addition of biodiesel is considered to have the same lubricating power as 500 ppm of sulphur. The Calgary Biodiesel Centre is scouting for possible plant sites near Balzac and in the Municipal District of Rockyview and hopes to begin construction this summer. Once the plant is operating, Luft says, it will be an easily-accessible source of biodiesel for fleets and organizations like the City of Calgary, which has begun using biodiesel in its vehicle fleet. There are a lot of potential customers, says Luft,because more and more people are becoming aware of the benefits of biodiesel. === -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=38867/*http://photomail.mail.yahoo.com to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
There is little or no free sulfur in fossil fuels, it is present as hydrogen sulfide, H2S which is the stuff of rotten egg smells. when present in significant amounts, it is called sour crude. Sweet crude is more valuable and therefore brings a higher price. Most sulfur in crude oil is present as organosulfur compounds, ie it is tied up via covalent bonding in organic compounds such as thiophene (C4H4S) and higher homologs. The sulfur is removed via a process called hydrodesulfurization, but I am not familiar with the chemistry of the process. Zeke Yewdall wrote: It was my understanding that the lack of sulpher is not necessarily the cause of low lubricity in the low sulphur fuel, but that the process of removing the sulphur also changed the fuel to have less lubricity. Anyone know exactly how they remove the sulphur, and what it does to the lubricity of the fuel? Or is sulphur actually a lubricant? On 3/7/06, David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk McLoren wrote: Sulphur is not added as a lubricant. WHere do they get that rubbish? Kirk It's not deliberately added, but sulfur does indeed provide a lot of lubrication for the injector pump. My understanding is that it needs to be replaced in very low sulfur fuel, BD makes a great replacement, as they point out here. In effect, they're right, it's just that it's not added intentionally. --- David */Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Spotted this in the March 2006 C3 Views. First I have heard of this group in Calgary. http://www.climatechangecentral.com/resources/c3views/C3_Views_March_06.pdf page 15 === French fries, fried chicken and other fast food may have a bad rap for their calorie-laden fat content. But the greasiest junk food may provide the fuel of choice for Canada's trucking industry and other diesel-powered machinery in the near future. At least, that's what a group of Alberta entrepreneurs is hoping as they prepare to open the province's first biodiesel refinery. We think there's a lot of potential, says Patrick Luft, co-founder of the Calgary Biodiesel Centre, which has plans to begin producing up to 20 million litres of biodiesel per year in a plant on the outskirts of Calgary. The beauty of biodiesel is that it's a renewable fuel, it lubricates engines a lot better and it reduces greenhouse gas emissions as well. Luft and partner Perry Toms have obtained a licence to use technology, developed by the Australian Biodiesel Group, capable of turning used cooking oil and tallow from southern Alberta slaughterhouses into fuel that can power diesel engines.Because the industry is in its infancy,we'll have to start off using new canola oil, but it will be capable of using tallow, used cooking oils and non-edible vegetable oil products, Luft says.It will be a modular plant so it can be quickly ramped up as demand grows. Biodiesel demand is expected to balloon when a new air pollution law comes into effect in June, dropping the maximum allowable sulphur content in diesel fuel to 15 parts per million (ppm) from 500 ppm. Sulphur is added to diesel fuel as an engine lubricant. A two-per-cent addition of biodiesel is considered to have the same lubricating power as 500 ppm of sulphur. The Calgary Biodiesel Centre is scouting for possible plant sites near Balzac and in the Municipal District of Rockyview and hopes to begin construction this summer. Once the plant is operating, Luft says, it will be an easily-accessible source of biodiesel for fleets and organizations like the City of Calgary, which has begun using biodiesel in its vehicle fleet. There are a lot of potential customers, says Luft,because more and more people are becoming aware of the benefits of biodiesel. === -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=38867/*http://photomail.mail.yahoo.com to share photos without annoying attachments. ___
Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
After all, we did add lead to gasoline for knock until the treehuggers made us stop. ;) No we added lead because it cut the cost of producing fuel that did not knock. There is no need to add lead (Russia stopped in 1956) it just made more profit for the petrol companies. Chris ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
After all, we did add lead to gasoline for knock until the treehuggers made us stop. ;) No we added lead because it cut the cost of producing fuel that did not knock. There is no need to add lead (Russia stopped in 1956) it just made more profit for the petrol companies. Chris http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=2320s=kitman The Secret History of Lead March 20, 2000 SPECIAL REPORT by JAMIE LINCOLN KITMAN PDF: http://www.globalleadnet.org/pdf/TheSecretHistoryofLead.pdf http://www.globalhemp.com/Archives/Essays/Biofuel/fuel.shtml Henry Ford, Charles Kettering and The Fuel Of The Future Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
Oh let them have their moment in the sun. The rain will soon fall on their parade and they'll come running to you and this list asking for advice and what-not. I'm trusting you will embrace them with open arms when that happens. What touching faith Kenji. :-) And indeed, for only twice my normal fee... We're not really interested in supporting commercial projects, it's not a free consultancy service. We're not necessarily against profit either, it depends what sort of project it is. This is a good example, I thought, from Ken in the Philippines: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg58663.html Re: [Biofuel] Local to Global On the other hand there's what Joe Street said a while back: When I am confident about what I have to offer I'll post all I have learned about what doesn't work as well as what does work on my site. Will I make plans available? Absolutely. I love open source forums on the web and the idea of sharing the wealth of knowledge openly. I'm not lurking here mining for information so I can slink off and use it to sell a million barrels of biofuel or exhorbitant skid processors for someone else to do the same. That's exactly the kind of thinking that got us in the lovely situation we are in with this world and I've had enough of it. No doubt some of those lurkers are shaking their heads glibly snickering at my cluelessness in the ways of commerce. Whateva. Maybe I do them an injustice but this Calgary project does look like just another commercial operation that won't change anything much. Is it about anything else but profit? Wouldn't they be doing the same thing if there was a sudden opening in zircon-encrusted bathroom fittings or something? The beauty of biodiesel is that it's a renewable fuel, it lubricates engines a lot better and it reduces greenhouse gas emissions as well. Renewable? What feedstock will they be using for 20 million litres a year? I suppose there's room for them in the market, if not in the future. Best Keith Kenji Fuse On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Keith Addison wrote: I wish people would stop saying this, it's endlessly regurgitated but it's not true: The original combustion fuel used by Rudolf Diesel in 1900 in his prototype compression engine was derived from peanut oil, the first ever biodiesel. - Australian Biodiesel Group This is even worse - peanut oil is biodiesel, good grief. Also... The chemistry of transesterification has been well understood for many years. However, until recently, the leading technologies have been extremely expensive and/or cumbersome due to inconsistent production quality. The Europeans have dealt with these issues by limiting the preferred feedstock for biodiesel produced there to canola oil. LOL! What BS. Just another commercial operation that ain't gonna change the world, nor anything much, IMNSHO. Best Keith Kirk McLoren wrote: Sulphur is not added as a lubricant. WHere do they get that rubbish? Kirk It's not deliberately added, but sulfur does indeed provide a lot of lubrication for the injector pump. My understanding is that it needs to be replaced in very low sulfur fuel, BD makes a great replacement, as they point out here. In effect, they're right, it's just that it's not added intentionally. --- David */Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Spotted this in the March 2006 C3 Views. First I have heard of this group in Calgary. http://www.climatechangecentral.com/resources/c3views/C3_Views_March_0 6.pdf page 15 === French fries, fried chicken and other fast food may have a bad rap for their calorie-laden fat content. But the greasiest junk food may provide the fuel of choice for Canadaís trucking industry and other diesel-powered machinery in the near future. At least, thatís what a group of Alberta entrepreneurs is hoping as they prepare to open the provinceís first biodiesel refinery. ìWe think thereís a lot of potential,î says Patrick Luft, co-founder of the Calgary Biodiesel Centre, which has plans to begin producing up to 20 million litres of biodiesel per year in a plant on the outskirts of Calgary. ìThe beauty of biodiesel is that itís a renewable fuel, it lubricates engines a lot better and it reduces greenhouse gas emissions as well.î Luft and partner Perry Toms have obtained a licence to use technology, developed by the Australian Biodiesel Group, capable of turning used cooking oil and tallow from southern Alberta slaughterhouses into fuel that can power diesel engines.ìBecause the industry is in its infancy,weíll have to start off using new canola oil,
Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
I was of the opinion that the sulfur content in fuel was due to the surrounds from where it was sourced. Shale oil was known to be very high in Sulfur and as such was of much less value than other sources. To note the GM (Detroit) series of 2 stroke engines did not last long on the shale oils as they wore the piston rings out. years ago a standing joke when we kept getting high sulfur diesel was that if you ran a Detroit 2 stroke you should fit a sieve to the exhaust to keep the rings in. this being the case and the extra wear on the rings then I don't see the sulfur as an additive but the dumping and propaganda that comes from oil companies to sell poor products at top prices with no come backby the customer. Sulfur is the destructive component in the bearings/shells on the crank shaft, also as above in the piston rings. It is being sucked into thinking it is good stuff for the engine where in reality it was the opening of closed shale oil deposits due to the detrimental effects on engines. With $ and time you can swing the population to believe almost any things is good for your car. Take silicone based cleaners and "rejuvenators" for upholstery. Silicone based substances break down and can destroy the interior of cars but the packets of such display sparkling leather etc. Just another fallacy andmanipulation. Doug - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group ***No virus was detected in the attachment no filenameYour mail has been scanned by InterScan.***-***I wish people would stop saying this, it's endlessly regurgitated butit's not true:"The original combustion fuel used by Rudolf Diesel in 1900 in hisprototype compression engine was derived from peanut oil, the firstever biodiesel." - Australian Biodiesel GroupThis is even worse - peanut oil is biodiesel, good grief.Also... "The chemistry of transesterification has been wellunderstood for many years. However, until recently, the leadingtechnologies have been extremely expensive and/or cumbersome due toinconsistent production quality. The Europeans have dealt with theseissues by limiting the preferred feedstock for biodiesel producedthere to canola oil."LOL! What BS.Just another commercial operation that ain't gonna change the world,nor anything much, IMNSHO.BestKeithKirk McLoren wrote: Sulphur is not added as a lubricant. WHere do they get that rubbish? KirkIt's not deliberately added, but sulfur does indeed provide a lot oflubrication for the injector pump. My understanding is that it needs tobe replaced in very low sulfur fuel, BD makes a great replacement, asthey point out here.In effect, they're right, it's just that it's not added intentionally.--- David */Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Spotted this in the March 2006 C3 Views. First I have heard of this group in Calgary. http://www.climatechangecentral.com/resources/c3views/C3_Views_March_06.pdf page 15 === French fries, fried chicken and other fast food may have a bad rap for their calorie-laden fat content. But the greasiest junk food may provide the fuel of choice for Canadaís trucking industry and other diesel-powered machinery in the near future. At least, thatís what a group of Alberta entrepreneurs is hoping as they prepare to open the provinceís first biodiesel refinery. ìWe think thereís a lot of potential,î says Patrick Luft, co-founder of the Calgary Biodiesel Centre, which has plans to begin producing up to 20 million litres of biodiesel per year in a plant on the outskirts of Calgary. ìThe beauty of biodiesel is that itís a renewable fuel, it lubricates engines a lot better and it reduces greenhouse gas emissions as well.î Luft and partner Perry Toms have obtained a licence to use technology, developed by the Australian Biodiesel Group, capable of turning used cooking oil and tallow from southern Alberta slaughterhouses into fuel that can power diesel engines.ìBecause the industry is in its infancy,weíll have to start off using new canola oil, but it will be capable of using tallow, used cooking oils and non-edible vegetable oil products,î Luft says.ìIt will be a modular plant so it can be quickly ramped up as demand grows.î Biodiesel demand is expected to balloon when a new air pollution law comes into effect in June, dropping the maximum allowable sulphur content in diesel fuel to 15 parts per million (ppm) from 500 ppm. Sulphur is added to diesel fuel as an engine lubricant. A two-per-cent addition of biodiesel is considered to have the same
[Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
Spotted this in the March 2006 C3 Views. First I have heard of this group in Calgary. http://www.climatechangecentral.com/resources/c3views/C3_Views_March_06.pdf page 15 === French fries, fried chicken and other fast food may have a bad rap for their calorie-laden fat content. But the greasiest junk food may provide the fuel of choice for Canada’s trucking industry and other diesel-powered machinery in the near future. At least, that’s what a group of Alberta entrepreneurs is hoping as they prepare to open the province’s first biodiesel refinery. “We think there’s a lot of potential,” says Patrick Luft, co-founder of the Calgary Biodiesel Centre, which has plans to begin producing up to 20 million litres of biodiesel per year in a plant on the outskirts of Calgary. “The beauty of biodiesel is that it’s a renewable fuel, it lubricates engines a lot better and it reduces greenhouse gas emissions as well.” Luft and partner Perry Toms have obtained a licence to use technology, developed by the Australian Biodiesel Group, capable of turning used cooking oil and tallow from southern Alberta slaughterhouses into fuel that can power diesel engines.“Because the industry is in its infancy,we’ll have to start off using new canola oil, but it will be capable of using tallow, used cooking oils and non-edible vegetable oil products,” Luft says.“It will be a modular plant so it can be quickly ramped up as demand grows.” Biodiesel demand is expected to balloon when a new air pollution law comes into effect in June, dropping the maximum allowable sulphur content in diesel fuel to 15 parts per million (ppm) from 500 ppm. Sulphur is added to diesel fuel as an engine lubricant. A two-per-cent addition of biodiesel is considered to have the same lubricating power as 500 ppm of sulphur. The Calgary Biodiesel Centre is scouting for possible plant sites near Balzac and in the Municipal District of Rockyview and hopes to begin construction this summer. Once the plant is operating, Luft says, it will be an easily-accessible source of biodiesel for fleets and organizations like the City of Calgary, which has begun using biodiesel in its vehicle fleet. “There are a lot of potential customers,” says Luft,“because more and more people are becoming aware of the benefits of biodiesel.” === -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
Sulphur is not added as a lubricant. WHere do they get that rubbish? KirkDarryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spotted this in the March 2006 C3 Views. First I have heard of this group in Calgary.http://www.climatechangecentral.com/resources/c3views/C3_Views_March_06.pdf page 15===French fries, fried chicken and other fast food may have a bad rap for their calorie-laden fat content. But the greasiest junk food may provide the fuel of choice for Canadas trucking industry and other diesel-powered machinery in the near future. At least, thats what a group of Alberta entrepreneurs is hoping as they prepare to open the provinces first biodiesel refinery.We think theres a lot of potential, says Patrick Luft, co-founder of the Calgary Biodiesel Centre, which has plans to begin producing up to 20 million litres of biodiesel per year in a plant on the outskirts of Calgary. The beauty of biodiesel is that its a renewable fuel, it lubricates engines a lot better and it reduces greenhouse gas emissions as well.Luft and partner Perry Toms have obtained a licence to usetechnology, developed by the Australian Biodiesel Group, capable of turning used cooking oil and tallow from southern Alberta slaughterhouses into fuel that can power diesel engines.Because the industry is in its infancy,well have to start off using new canola oil, but it will be capable of using tallow, used cooking oils and non-edible vegetable oil products, Luft says.It will be a modular plant so it canbe quickly ramped up as demand grows.Biodiesel demand is expected to balloon when a new air pollution law comes into effect in June, dropping the maximum allowable sulphur content in diesel fuel to 15 parts per million (ppm) from 500ppm. Sulphur is added to diesel fuel as an engine lubricant. A two-per-cent addition of biodiesel is considered to have the same lubricating power as 500 ppm of sulphur.The Calgary Biodiesel Centre is scouting for possible plant sites near Balzac and in the Municipal District of Rockyview and hopes to begin construction this summer. Once the plant is operating, Luft says, it will be an easily-accessible source of biodiesel for fleets and organizations like the City of Calgary, which has begun using biodiesel in its vehicle fleet.There are a lot of potential customers, says Luft,because more and more people are becoming aware of the benefits of biodiesel.===-- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.comIt's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will?___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Calgary Biodiesel Group
Kirk McLoren wrote: Sulphur is not added as a lubricant. WHere do they get that rubbish? Kirk It's not deliberately added, but sulfur does indeed provide a lot of lubrication for the injector pump. My understanding is that it needs to be replaced in very low sulfur fuel, BD makes a great replacement, as they point out here. In effect, they're right, it's just that it's not added intentionally. --- David */Darryl McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Spotted this in the March 2006 C3 Views. First I have heard of this group in Calgary. http://www.climatechangecentral.com/resources/c3views/C3_Views_March_06.pdf page 15 === French fries, fried chicken and other fast food may have a bad rap for their calorie-laden fat content. But the greasiest junk food may provide the fuel of choice for Canada’s trucking industry and other diesel-powered machinery in the near future. At least, that’s what a group of Alberta entrepreneurs is hoping as they prepare to open the province’s first biodiesel refinery. “We think there’s a lot of potential,” says Patrick Luft, co-founder of the Calgary Biodiesel Centre, which has plans to begin producing up to 20 million litres of biodiesel per year in a plant on the outskirts of Calgary. “The beauty of biodiesel is that it’s a renewable fuel, it lubricates engines a lot better and it reduces greenhouse gas emissions as well.” Luft and partner Perry Toms have obtained a licence to use technology, developed by the Australian Biodiesel Group, capable of turning used cooking oil and tallow from southern Alberta slaughterhouses into fuel that can power diesel engines.“Because the industry is in its infancy,we’ll have to start off using new canola oil, but it will be capable of using tallow, used cooking oils and non-edible vegetable oil products,” Luft says.“It will be a modular plant so it can be quickly ramped up as demand grows.” Biodiesel demand is expected to balloon when a new air pollution law comes into effect in June, dropping the maximum allowable sulphur content in diesel fuel to 15 parts per million (ppm) from 500 ppm. Sulphur is added to diesel fuel as an engine lubricant. A two-per-cent addition of biodiesel is considered to have the same lubricating power as 500 ppm of sulphur. The Calgary Biodiesel Centre is scouting for possible plant sites near Balzac and in the Municipal District of Rockyview and hopes to begin construction this summer. Once the plant is operating, Luft says, it will be an easily-accessible source of biodiesel for fleets and organizations like the City of Calgary, which has begun using biodiesel in its vehicle fleet. “There are a lot of potential customers,” says Luft,“because more and more people are becoming aware of the benefits of biodiesel.” === -- Darryl McMahon http://www.econogics.com It's your planet. If you won't look after it, who will? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=38867/*http://photomail.mail.yahoo.com to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
