Re: [Biofuel] Condensers
The air cooled condensor of the back of a refrigerator from the tip works well. Bert Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear All- Does anyone out there have a creative off the shelf idea for a total condenser (methanol recovery)? I'm thinking about building an air-cooled type, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution? Also, where are some other sources to get methanol? I have a local racing fuel blender who is sympathetic, but I'm wondering if there's a stone I've left un-turned. Thanks! - Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ The huge gap between rich and poor is not only morally wrong but is also a source of many problems H.H. Tenzin Gyatso. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Condensers
Matt~ You might consider an ethanol distiller. Some nice ones are for sale at: http://www.brewhaus.com/Distillers-and-Parts.asp ~leif On Aug 8, 2005, at 7:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All- Does anyone out there have a creative off the shelf idea for a total condenser (methanol recovery)? I'm thinking about building an air-cooled type, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution? Also, where are some other sources to get methanol? I have a local racing fuel blender who is sympathetic, but I'm wondering if there's a stone I've left un-turned. Thanks! - Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Condensers
You can make one very easily by running a peice of 1/2 inch copper pipe inside a peice of 3/4 inch copper pipe with reducing tee fittings on either end. Just take a rat tail file and slightly file the inside of the reducing tee until the 1/2 inch pipe slides right through. Make the 1/2 inch pipe long enough so that you can slide one tee on each end and solder it to the 1/2 inch pipe and 3/4 inch pipe with the smaller pipe protruding from each end of the condenser. The half inch pipe gets hooked up to your still and distillate trap and the branches coming off the side of the reducing tee's hook up to your cooling water. Cooling water flows in the space between the 3/4 and 1/2 inch pipes. Rather than use cold tap water running all the time use a small pump and fill a small drum with cold water. Keep an eye on the water temperature and add cold or ice as needed as it warms during the distillation. Excess water removed from the chilled water tank can be saved and used for washing your BD. This type of condenser is cheap and easy and works well. Joe Leif Forer wrote: Matt~ You might consider an ethanol distiller. Some nice ones are for sale at: http://www.brewhaus.com/Distillers-and-Parts.asp ~leif On Aug 8, 2005, at 7:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All- Does anyone out there have a creative off the shelf idea for a total condenser (methanol recovery)? I'm thinking about building an air-cooled type, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution? Also, where are some other sources to get methanol? I have a local racing fuel blender who is sympathetic, but I'm wondering if there's a stone I've left un-turned. Thanks! - Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/ biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Condensers
While, I'm thinking out of the salvage yard, not off the shelf, but would Automotive A/C condensers work? Perhaps the process would be too corrosive to the aluminum, I don't know. Just blurting out what came to mind, sorry. Doug - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 6:55 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Condensers Dear All- Does anyone out there have a creative off the shelf idea for a total condenser (methanol recovery)? I'm thinking about building an air-cooled type, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution? Also, where are some other sources to get methanol? I have a local racing fuel blender who is sympathetic, but I'm wondering if there's a stone I've left un-turned. Thanks! - Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Condensers
Yes an automotive radiator will work too. In fact occasionaly people making illegal ethanol for drinking try to use automotive radiators as condensers. Then you hear the story about how they get lead poisoning from the solder used to fabricate the rad. Even an air cooled coil of copper can work if it is large enough. Joe Doug Younker wrote: While, I'm thinking out of the salvage yard, not off the shelf, but would Automotive A/C condensers work? Perhaps the process would be too corrosive to the aluminum, I don't know. Just blurting out what came to mind, sorry. Doug - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 6:55 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Condensers Dear All- Does anyone out there have a creative off the shelf idea for a total condenser (methanol recovery)? I'm thinking about building an air-cooled type, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution? Also, where are some other sources to get methanol? I have a local racing fuel blender who is sympathetic, but I'm wondering if there's a stone I've left un-turned. Thanks! - Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Condensers
Think about a air conditioner outside coil. The kind used with home A/C units. These things get junked all the time. I have only seen aluminum ones but if aluminum is OK then you have a good condenser. ~BEST~Roy Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes an automotive radiator will work too. In fact occasionaly people making illegal ethanol for drinking try to use automotive radiators as condensers. Then you hear the story about how they get lead poisoning from the solder used to fabricate the rad. Even an air cooled coil of copper can work if it is large enough.JoeDoug Younker wrote: While, I'm thinking out of the salvage yard, not off the shelf, but would Automotive A/C condensers work? Perhaps the process would be too corrosive to the aluminum, I don't know. Just blurting out what came to mind, sorry. Doug - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 6:55 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Condensers Dear All- Does anyone out there have a creative off the shelf idea for a total condenser (methanol recovery)? I'm thinking about building an air-cooled type, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution? Also, where are some other sources to get methanol? I have a local racing fuel blender who is sympathetic, but I'm wondering if there's a stone I've left un-turned. Thanks! - Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Roy Washbish Certified Health Coach A HOME BUSINESS PRODUCTS THAT WORKPRODUCTS BUSINESSTRIVITA.COM/11393920 GREAT RETURN ON YOUR MONEY. SEE AD PROGRAM Visit mytrim.com/Roy Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Condensers
Dear All- Does anyone out there have a creative off the shelf idea for a total condenser (methanol recovery)? I'm thinking about building an air-cooled type, but I was wondering if anyone had a better solution? Also, where are some other sources to get methanol? I have a local racing fuel blender who is sympathetic, but I'm wondering if there's a stone I've left un-turned. Thanks! - Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
