Re: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty
Did I tell u that I worked in rubber industrypreviously n while in service saw the untimely demise of many of my friends who were using Monsanto chemicals from weed sprayers to scientists with doctorates from good British universities. I find that all of a sudden steamed corn on the cob has become sweet. Is this a GM variety as the natural variation eg, hardness, blandness r not present. How to find out if this is GM varietyInfo would be very useful..Thanks for listening. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty >I would place Monsanto at the top of the list >Kirk Bullseye, Kirk. Monsanto is far and away the most popular unpopular evil corporation, it's top of just about everybody's hate list. It won the Most Evil Corporation of the Year prize for 2010. It was voted more evil than BP, in the Year of the Gulf of Mexico disaster. But it's not even on the Fortune Top 500 Corporations list, which makes interesting reading, but Monsanto's not there. <http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2011/full_list/index.html> Or not until you take a closer look. Tysons is there, and extremely killable, IMHO, though the equally killable Smithfield isn't there. Many commentators (including us here probably) have pointed out that the CAFOs wouldn't be happening but for the corn, and guess whose corn it is? Monsanto's GM crap, of course. The mercenary contractors Blackwater/XE and DynCorp are on lots of hate lists too, and also not in the Top 500. DynCorp is the other Blackwater, it was the bad guy under attack in the 2010 expose movie The Whistleblower, re the UN cover-up of the sex trade in young girls in Bosnia. In 2008 Monsanto contracted Blackwater "to spy on and infiltrate organizations of animal rights activists, anti-GM and other dirty activities of the biotech giant", according to the relentless Jeremy Scahill, Blackwater's nemesis. Dirty activities such as the Bivings Group incident, which you may recall - see "The fake persuaders -- Corporations are inventing people to rubbish their opponents on the internet", George Monbiot, The Guardian, Tuesday 14 May 2002 <http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/may/14/greenpolitics.digitalmedia> Other Blackwater clients are Chevron, Walt Disney, and banking giants Deutsche Bank and Barclays, which are all in the Top 500. Then Via Campesina reported the purchase of 500,000 Monsanto shares for more than $23 million by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. True bedfellows. Meanwhile, regarding Blackwater: Soldiers May Be Leaving Iraq, But Contractors Will Remain <http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/21-10>http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/21-10 Sadr: Presence of 'US Trainers' Extension of US Occupation <http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/21-5>http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/21-5 Spencer Ackerman: The Iraq War Ain't Over, No Matter What Obama Says <http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/21-9>http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/21-9 Human Rights First: Iraq Withdraw Underscores Need for Contractor Accountability <http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2011/10/21-4> US Military Paid $1.1 Trillion to Contractors That Defrauded the Government <http://www.truth-out.org/us-military-paid-11-trillion-contractors-defrauded-government/1319140017> And: The Chamber Spends More Than $4 Million in Just Three Months Lobbying for Corporate Immunity to the Law <http://www.truth-out.org/chamber-spends-more-4-million-just-three-months-lobbying-corporate-immunity-law/1319210767> I completely agree with Dawie, no punishments, kill them all. "And I'll stand on your grave 'til I'm sure that you're dead." (Bob Dylan, "Masters of War") All best Keith >________________ >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:53 AM >Subject: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty > >http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/20-8 > >Published on Thursday, October 20, 2011 by Single Payer Action > >Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty > >by Russell Mokhiber > >One of the most famous signs to come out of Occupy Wall Street stated >simply: "I will believe corporations are people when Texas executes >one." > >That was sort of a joke. > >But in fact, for the benefit of real live human beings, some >corporations ought to be executed. > >My guess is that most of the occupiers at Wall Street would be in >favor of the corporate death penalty. > >Some - like Richard Gr
Re: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty
>I would place Monsanto at the top of the list >Kirk Bullseye, Kirk. Monsanto is far and away the most popular unpopular evil corporation, it's top of just about everybody's hate list. It won the Most Evil Corporation of the Year prize for 2010. It was voted more evil than BP, in the Year of the Gulf of Mexico disaster. But it's not even on the Fortune Top 500 Corporations list, which makes interesting reading, but Monsanto's not there. <http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2011/full_list/index.html> Or not until you take a closer look. Tysons is there, and extremely killable, IMHO, though the equally killable Smithfield isn't there. Many commentators (including us here probably) have pointed out that the CAFOs wouldn't be happening but for the corn, and guess whose corn it is? Monsanto's GM crap, of course. The mercenary contractors Blackwater/XE and DynCorp are on lots of hate lists too, and also not in the Top 500. DynCorp is the other Blackwater, it was the bad guy under attack in the 2010 expose movie The Whistleblower, re the UN cover-up of the sex trade in young girls in Bosnia. In 2008 Monsanto contracted Blackwater "to spy on and infiltrate organizations of animal rights activists, anti-GM and other dirty activities of the biotech giant", according to the relentless Jeremy Scahill, Blackwater's nemesis. Dirty activities such as the Bivings Group incident, which you may recall - see "The fake persuaders -- Corporations are inventing people to rubbish their opponents on the internet", George Monbiot, The Guardian, Tuesday 14 May 2002 <http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/may/14/greenpolitics.digitalmedia> Other Blackwater clients are Chevron, Walt Disney, and banking giants Deutsche Bank and Barclays, which are all in the Top 500. Then Via Campesina reported the purchase of 500,000 Monsanto shares for more than $23 million by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. True bedfellows. Meanwhile, regarding Blackwater: Soldiers May Be Leaving Iraq, But Contractors Will Remain <http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/21-10>http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/21-10 Sadr: Presence of 'US Trainers' Extension of US Occupation <http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/21-5>http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2011/10/21-5 Spencer Ackerman: The Iraq War Ain't Over, No Matter What Obama Says <http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/21-9>http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/21-9 Human Rights First: Iraq Withdraw Underscores Need for Contractor Accountability <http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2011/10/21-4> US Military Paid $1.1 Trillion to Contractors That Defrauded the Government <http://www.truth-out.org/us-military-paid-11-trillion-contractors-defrauded-government/1319140017> And: The Chamber Spends More Than $4 Million in Just Three Months Lobbying for Corporate Immunity to the Law <http://www.truth-out.org/chamber-spends-more-4-million-just-three-months-lobbying-corporate-immunity-law/1319210767> I completely agree with Dawie, no punishments, kill them all. "And I'll stand on your grave 'til I'm sure that you're dead." (Bob Dylan, "Masters of War") All best Keith >________________ >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:53 AM >Subject: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty > >http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/20-8 > >Published on Thursday, October 20, 2011 by Single Payer Action > >Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty > >by Russell Mokhiber > >One of the most famous signs to come out of Occupy Wall Street stated >simply: "I will believe corporations are people when Texas executes >one." > >That was sort of a joke. > >But in fact, for the benefit of real live human beings, some >corporations ought to be executed. > >My guess is that most of the occupiers at Wall Street would be in >favor of the corporate death penalty. > >Some - like Richard Grossman - would criminalize the corporate form. > >But if you want to take the incremental approach, here's my list of >five candidates for the corporate death penalty. > >Health insurance corporations. Most western industrialized countries >- with the exception of the USA - already have this death penalty in >place. In those countries, corporations are not allowed to sell >primary private health insurance. Instead, there is a public single >payer - everybody in, nobody out. Under this death penalty proposal >corporations like Aetna, CIGNA, UnitedHealth, and Wellpoint would be >put out of business. And with a public single payer to replace them, >we'd save b
Re: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty
Monsanto: certainly. Except that I do not think that the idea of punishment is really appropriate in this situation; especially with the further implication of determent, i.e. discipline. It really does perpetuate the abomination of corporate personhood, as in the original joke, to consider the aim to be correction. For Monsanto et al. are really not miscreants to be executed but vermin to be exterminated. There really is no chance of rehabilitation. Corporations trained, corrected, disciplined are more powerful than ever. They are better capable of ill and more effectively wield power over you and me. This is not a theory of what would happen if the corporations were to be regulated but a description of what has happened due to the corporations being regulated over the past half-century or more. Regards Dawie Coetzee > >From: Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org" > >Sent: Friday, 21 October 2011, 17:15 >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty > >I would place Monsanto at the top of the list >Kirk > > > > > >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:53 AM >Subject: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty > >http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/20-8 > >Published on Thursday, October 20, 2011 by Single Payer Action > >Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty > >by Russell Mokhiber > >One of the most famous signs to come out of Occupy Wall Street stated >simply: "I will believe corporations are people when Texas executes >one." > >That was sort of a joke. > >But in fact, for the benefit of real live human beings, some >corporations ought to be executed. > >My guess is that most of the occupiers at Wall Street would be in >favor of the corporate death penalty. > >Some - like Richard Grossman - would criminalize the corporate form. > >But if you want to take the incremental approach, here's my list of >five candidates for the corporate death penalty. > >Health insurance corporations. Most western industrialized countries >- with the exception of the USA - already have this death penalty in >place. In those countries, corporations are not allowed to sell >primary private health insurance. Instead, there is a public single >payer - everybody in, nobody out. Under this death penalty proposal >corporations like Aetna, CIGNA, UnitedHealth, and Wellpoint would be >put out of business. And with a public single payer to replace them, >we'd save billions of dollars and the lives of more than 45,000 >Americans who die every year from lack of health insurance. > >Nuclear power corporations. Do we really need a Fukushima here in the >United States? We do not. Without government loan guarantees and >federal limits on nuclear liability, the industry would be put out of >business. So, we could simply cut the federal subsidy and that would >be the end of it. And we should. A wide range of safer, cleaner >energy options is available to replace the energy currently being >generated by unsafe nuclear power. > >Giant Banks. Wells Fargo. Citibank. Bank of America. JP Morgan Chase. >Morgan Stanley. Goldman Sachs. They should be executed - broken up >and replaced by smaller banks. Break up the big banks. And impose a >hard cap on their size. No bank should have assets of more than four >percent of GDP. There is support across the political spectrum for >this proposal. During the debate over financial reform, the measure >garnered 33 votes in the Senate - it was called the Brown-Kaufman >amendment. > >Fracking corporations. Hydraulic fracturing - fracking - is wrecking >havoc in the northeastern part of the United States. Any corporation >engaged in fracking behavior that threatens drinking water supplies >ought to be put out of business. Anti-fracking activists in New York >have already drafted legislation that would criminalize fracking >corporations. > >Corporate criminal recidivists. Legislatures should adopt provisions >to strip corporations of their charters for serious corporate >violations or for recidivist behavior. Some states already have such >provisions, although they are rarely invoked. > >Some corporations have been put to death for wrongful behavior, but >they have been mostly smaller companies. > >In 1983, the Attorney General of Virginia asked the state's >corporation commission to dissolve a book company convicted of >possessing obscene films. > >But when it comes to the serious crimes that big corporations engage
Re: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty
Hi Keith ; Yes this is good, and one other thing I would nominate for the death penalty is the patenting of life forms. BR Peter G. Thailand -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20111022/6df15ef5/attachment-0001.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty
I would place Monsanto at the top of the list Kirk From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/20-8 Published on Thursday, October 20, 2011 by Single Payer Action Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty by Russell Mokhiber One of the most famous signs to come out of Occupy Wall Street stated simply: "I will believe corporations are people when Texas executes one." That was sort of a joke. But in fact, for the benefit of real live human beings, some corporations ought to be executed. My guess is that most of the occupiers at Wall Street would be in favor of the corporate death penalty. Some - like Richard Grossman - would criminalize the corporate form. But if you want to take the incremental approach, here's my list of five candidates for the corporate death penalty. Health insurance corporations. Most western industrialized countries - with the exception of the USA - already have this death penalty in place. In those countries, corporations are not allowed to sell primary private health insurance. Instead, there is a public single payer - everybody in, nobody out. Under this death penalty proposal corporations like Aetna, CIGNA, UnitedHealth, and Wellpoint would be put out of business. And with a public single payer to replace them, we'd save billions of dollars and the lives of more than 45,000 Americans who die every year from lack of health insurance. Nuclear power corporations. Do we really need a Fukushima here in the United States? We do not. Without government loan guarantees and federal limits on nuclear liability, the industry would be put out of business. So, we could simply cut the federal subsidy and that would be the end of it. And we should. A wide range of safer, cleaner energy options is available to replace the energy currently being generated by unsafe nuclear power. Giant Banks. Wells Fargo. Citibank. Bank of America. JP Morgan Chase. Morgan Stanley. Goldman Sachs. They should be executed - broken up and replaced by smaller banks. Break up the big banks. And impose a hard cap on their size. No bank should have assets of more than four percent of GDP. There is support across the political spectrum for this proposal. During the debate over financial reform, the measure garnered 33 votes in the Senate - it was called the Brown-Kaufman amendment. Fracking corporations. Hydraulic fracturing - fracking - is wrecking havoc in the northeastern part of the United States. Any corporation engaged in fracking behavior that threatens drinking water supplies ought to be put out of business. Anti-fracking activists in New York have already drafted legislation that would criminalize fracking corporations. Corporate criminal recidivists. Legislatures should adopt provisions to strip corporations of their charters for serious corporate violations or for recidivist behavior. Some states already have such provisions, although they are rarely invoked. Some corporations have been put to death for wrongful behavior, but they have been mostly smaller companies. In 1983, the Attorney General of Virginia asked the state's corporation commission to dissolve a book company convicted of possessing obscene films. But when it comes to the serious crimes that big corporations engage in - pollution, corruption, fraud, threatening the lives of real Americans - the death penalty is off the table. If we are serious about corporate crime, the death penalty is a deterrent that will work. Russell Mokhiber is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Corporate Crime Reporter. He is also founder of singlepayeraction.org, and editor of the website Morgan County USA ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20111021/2bab58cd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/10/20-8 Published on Thursday, October 20, 2011 by Single Payer Action Five Candidates for the Corporate Death Penalty by Russell Mokhiber One of the most famous signs to come out of Occupy Wall Street stated simply: "I will believe corporations are people when Texas executes one." That was sort of a joke. But in fact, for the benefit of real live human beings, some corporations ought to be executed. My guess is that most of the occupiers at Wall Street would be in favor of the corporate death penalty. Some - like Richard Grossman - would criminalize the corporate form. But if you want to take the incremental approach, here's my list of five candidates for the corporate death penalty. Health insurance corporations. Most western industrialized countries - with the exception of the USA - already have this death penalty in place. In those countries, corporations are not allowed to sell primary private health insurance. Instead, there is a public single payer - everybody in, nobody out. Under this death penalty proposal corporations like Aetna, CIGNA, UnitedHealth, and Wellpoint would be put out of business. And with a public single payer to replace them, we'd save billions of dollars and the lives of more than 45,000 Americans who die every year from lack of health insurance. Nuclear power corporations. Do we really need a Fukushima here in the United States? We do not. Without government loan guarantees and federal limits on nuclear liability, the industry would be put out of business. So, we could simply cut the federal subsidy and that would be the end of it. And we should. A wide range of safer, cleaner energy options is available to replace the energy currently being generated by unsafe nuclear power. Giant Banks. Wells Fargo. Citibank. Bank of America. JP Morgan Chase. Morgan Stanley. Goldman Sachs. They should be executed - broken up and replaced by smaller banks. Break up the big banks. And impose a hard cap on their size. No bank should have assets of more than four percent of GDP. There is support across the political spectrum for this proposal. During the debate over financial reform, the measure garnered 33 votes in the Senate - it was called the Brown-Kaufman amendment. Fracking corporations. Hydraulic fracturing - fracking - is wrecking havoc in the northeastern part of the United States. Any corporation engaged in fracking behavior that threatens drinking water supplies ought to be put out of business. Anti-fracking activists in New York have already drafted legislation that would criminalize fracking corporations. Corporate criminal recidivists. Legislatures should adopt provisions to strip corporations of their charters for serious corporate violations or for recidivist behavior. Some states already have such provisions, although they are rarely invoked. Some corporations have been put to death for wrongful behavior, but they have been mostly smaller companies. In 1983, the Attorney General of Virginia asked the state's corporation commission to dissolve a book company convicted of possessing obscene films. But when it comes to the serious crimes that big corporations engage in - pollution, corruption, fraud, threatening the lives of real Americans - the death penalty is off the table. If we are serious about corporate crime, the death penalty is a deterrent that will work. Russell Mokhiber is editor of the Washington, D.C.-based Corporate Crime Reporter. He is also founder of singlepayeraction.org, and editor of the website Morgan County USA ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
