Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats
>As disgusting as we (I) may find making fuel out of animals, there is >already an entire industry devoted to turning dead animals (mostly >farm animals such as cows, chickens, horses etc) into various >products. Soap. Glue. Food for other supposedly vegetarian animals >such as cows (mad cow disease?). There's a large rendering plant in >northern colorado that you can smell down here when the wind blows the >wrong way, turning dead cows into who knows what. While in a >completely sane world, we might not eat so much meat or have the giant >factory farms that need to dispose of the "waste", but for now, it >exists, so why shouldn't we put it to use to address transportation >needs? Well, yes, quite. Sorry Zeke, did you take me seriously? Because I sure didn't, LOL! No objections at all, only it doesn't seem to happen much. AFAIK none of the cattle slaughtered in the BSE kill-offs ended up as biofuels, except I think France did some power generation with some carcases. I know there's an Elsbett system on a large power generator (or more than one) in the UK that burns animal fat, but I don't know if it burned BSE fat or not. An acid-base biodiesel process study done in Ireland was intended to cater for the need to dispose of the BSE wastes in a more sane way, but I don't think it was ever used for that. I don't think any of the chickens slaughtered in East Asia during the bird-flu kill-off were used for anything sensible. People just don't think that way yet. Our governments and the powers-that-be mostly still think of biofuels in terms of agricultural commodities, not energy. I have objected when people have announced projects for processing industrialised hog "farm" wastes into biofuels, or dead turkeys from intensive turkey raising factories or whatever, as nice, green, sustainable projects, and that they certainly aren't if what they're based on is none of those things, even if they might help clean up the mess. There shouldn't be any such mess. That aside, I agree with you, while it exists we might as well use it, though there's a prior question of how much of those wastes should go back to a grievously abused soil. If it's properly done there should be enough for both purposes. Best wishes Keith >On 9/16/05, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I followed a link in another thread to www.slashdot.org and found this: > > >BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- A German inventor said he has developed a > > >method to produce crude oil products from waste that he believes can > > >be an answer to the soaring costs of fuel, but denied a German > > >newspaper story implying he also used dead cats. > > >http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/14/germany.catfuel.reut/index.html > > >Brian Rodgers > > > > These journalists, tut tut. > > > > Pity about the toad just the same, even just an odd one that may not > > have been there. How can he not know whether a toad hopped in or not > > but it might have? We get inundated by little bright green frogs in > > the rice-growing season, they're champion blind leapers, they get > > everywhere, we have to spend time saving their lives, but we never > > got one in the biodiesel, and if we had we'd have known about it. (So > > would the frog.) > > > > Someone should at least lobby the German government to develop > > official quality standards for biofuels potentially derived from odd > > toads, and even even ones. > > > > After all, this isn't the first time: > > > > http://www.thehumorarchives.com/humor/457.html > > Frog in a blender > > > > Todd is entirely to blame for this (but he says you can use a canoe > > paddle instead). > > > > Best > > > > Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats
anybody ever see the episode of "the odd couple" where felix gives a frog hydrotherapy by putting its injured leg (it had supposedly sprained an ankle or something) in a blender full of warm water? aah, good times. . . . -chris b. In a message dated 9/16/05 9:42:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> http://www.thehumorarchives.com/humor/457.html >> Frog in a blender >> >> Todd is entirely to blame for this (but he says you can use a canoe >> paddle instead). >> >> Best >> >> Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats
As disgusting as we (I) may find making fuel out of animals, there is already an entire industry devoted to turning dead animals (mostly farm animals such as cows, chickens, horses etc) into various products. Soap. Glue. Food for other supposedly vegetarian animals such as cows (mad cow disease?). There's a large rendering plant in northern colorado that you can smell down here when the wind blows the wrong way, turning dead cows into who knows what. While in a completely sane world, we might not eat so much meat or have the giant factory farms that need to dispose of the "waste", but for now, it exists, so why shouldn't we put it to use to address transportation needs? On 9/16/05, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I followed a link in another thread to www.slashdot.org and found this: > >BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- A German inventor said he has developed a > >method to produce crude oil products from waste that he believes can > >be an answer to the soaring costs of fuel, but denied a German > >newspaper story implying he also used dead cats. > >http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/14/germany.catfuel.reut/index.html > >Brian Rodgers > > These journalists, tut tut. > > Pity about the toad just the same, even just an odd one that may not > have been there. How can he not know whether a toad hopped in or not > but it might have? We get inundated by little bright green frogs in > the rice-growing season, they're champion blind leapers, they get > everywhere, we have to spend time saving their lives, but we never > got one in the biodiesel, and if we had we'd have known about it. (So > would the frog.) > > Someone should at least lobby the German government to develop > official quality standards for biofuels potentially derived from odd > toads, and even even ones. > > After all, this isn't the first time: > > http://www.thehumorarchives.com/humor/457.html > Frog in a blender > > Todd is entirely to blame for this (but he says you can use a canoe > paddle instead). > > Best > > Keith > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats
>I followed a link in another thread to www.slashdot.org and found this: >BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- A German inventor said he has developed a >method to produce crude oil products from waste that he believes can >be an answer to the soaring costs of fuel, but denied a German >newspaper story implying he also used dead cats. >http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/14/germany.catfuel.reut/index.html >Brian Rodgers These journalists, tut tut. Pity about the toad just the same, even just an odd one that may not have been there. How can he not know whether a toad hopped in or not but it might have? We get inundated by little bright green frogs in the rice-growing season, they're champion blind leapers, they get everywhere, we have to spend time saving their lives, but we never got one in the biodiesel, and if we had we'd have known about it. (So would the frog.) Someone should at least lobby the German government to develop official quality standards for biofuels potentially derived from odd toads, and even even ones. After all, this isn't the first time: http://www.thehumorarchives.com/humor/457.html Frog in a blender Todd is entirely to blame for this (but he says you can use a canoe paddle instead). Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats
Hi All, This reminds me of a thought I forgot to write down weeks ago. If BioD made from french fry oil smells like French fries what does BioD made from Castor oil smell like? Tom Irwin From: Zeke Yewdall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:44:44 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead catsWhen the boulder-biodiesel crew was down in Colombia working on thebiodiesel processor for gaviotas, they did try a batch of chickenscraps, boiling all the grease off and turning it into biodiesel. They said it worked fine, but smelled the lab up so bad that none ofthem felt like eating for a few days.If we could turn non-oil sources into biodiesel through heat assistedcatalytic reforming, that would be pretty cool though.On 9/15/05, John Donahue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:> I thought this was amusing and interesting, about a new technology to> make fuel from common waste materials.> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/15/cats_fuel_diesel/> > ___> Biofuel mailing list> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org> > Biofuel at Journey to Forever:> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html> > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/> >___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats
I followed a link in another thread to www.slashdot.org and found this: BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- A German inventor said he has developed a method to produce crude oil products from waste that he believes can be an answer to the soaring costs of fuel, but denied a German newspaper story implying he also used dead cats. http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/14/germany.catfuel.reut/index.html Brian Rodgers ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats
When the boulder-biodiesel crew was down in Colombia working on the biodiesel processor for gaviotas, they did try a batch of chicken scraps, boiling all the grease off and turning it into biodiesel. They said it worked fine, but smelled the lab up so bad that none of them felt like eating for a few days. If we could turn non-oil sources into biodiesel through heat assisted catalytic reforming, that would be pretty cool though. On 9/15/05, John Donahue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought this was amusing and interesting, about a new technology to > make fuel from common waste materials. > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/15/cats_fuel_diesel/ > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fuel can be made from dead cats
I thought this was amusing and interesting, about a new technology to make fuel from common waste materials. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09/15/cats_fuel_diesel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
