Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
There are aftermarket companies that started out making Harley parts but, now provide enough products to build an entire bike. It may not be cost effective to build an entire bike but, you may be interested in a frame and 4 (or 5) spd tranny. I did this back in the late eighties (when your options were more limited). I had a 4 spd, special built for me and it cost $1200.00 -- that was with (mostly) original Harley Davidson parts. You might get away with a much better price with some of the other outfits. This is all assuming that you have no luck getting something used. Good luck! Mike Busyditch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, on a similar note, I just received the crate with my 6 hp dieselengine. Now I need to set about finding an appropriate motorcycle toconvert. I like the Enfield Bullet, but its hard finding a donor bike in theStates thats not a restored vintage bike (e.g. $$$) I also need to determinethe transmission- either belt torque converter (same as snowmobile) or anexisting bike with a non-unit trans (Enfield or early BSA) I may wind upwith an older Honda or Kawasaki, around 350cc. I will keep you posted.- Original Message - From: "Bede" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:11 AMSubject: RE: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)> Yeah I want one too, in NZ you can get them registered as mopeds,> of course if some enterprising soul put together a diesel engine> for them, just think how many ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
Start w/ a Japanese bike w/ (hopefully) a six speed. They are really cheap (free with a bad motor) and then when you get good, go for the British bike. Did you get a Changfa? -Mike Keith Addison wrote: Well, on a similar note, I just received the crate with my 6 hp diesel engine. Now I need to set about finding an appropriate motorcycle to convert. I like the Enfield Bullet, but its hard finding a donor bike in the States thats not a restored vintage bike (e.g. $$$) I also need to determine the transmission- either belt torque converter (same as snowmobile) or an existing bike with a non-unit trans (Enfield or early BSA) The British bikes started changing to unit-construction in the early 60s, so early also Triumph, Norton, AJS, Matchless, Ariel and so on, and Norton Commandos had separate gearboxes much later than that, to late-70s or later. If you can find a British biker list it might not cost too much for you to import an old one from the Land of Ukay, or maybe from India. I may wind up with an older Honda or Kawasaki, around 350cc. I will keep you posted. Kawasaki single-pot maybe. Good luck - take photographs! Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
Well, on a similar note, I just received the crate with my 6 hp diesel engine. Now I need to set about finding an appropriate motorcycle to convert. I like the Enfield Bullet, but its hard finding a donor bike in the States thats not a restored vintage bike (e.g. $$$) I also need to determine the transmission- either belt torque converter (same as snowmobile) or an existing bike with a non-unit trans (Enfield or early BSA) The British bikes started changing to unit-construction in the early 60s, so early also Triumph, Norton, AJS, Matchless, Ariel and so on, and Norton Commandos had separate gearboxes much later than that, to late-70s or later. If you can find a British biker list it might not cost too much for you to import an old one from the Land of Ukay, or maybe from India. I may wind up with an older Honda or Kawasaki, around 350cc. I will keep you posted. Kawasaki single-pot maybe. Good luck - take photographs! Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
Well, on a similar note, I just received the crate with my 6 hp diesel engine. Now I need to set about finding an appropriate motorcycle to convert. I like the Enfield Bullet, but its hard finding a donor bike in the States thats not a restored vintage bike (e.g. $$$) I also need to determine the transmission- either belt torque converter (same as snowmobile) or an existing bike with a non-unit trans (Enfield or early BSA) I may wind up with an older Honda or Kawasaki, around 350cc. I will keep you posted. - Original Message - From: "Bede" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 3:11 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale) > Yeah I want one too, in NZ you can get them registered as mopeds, > of course if some enterprising soul put together a diesel engine > for them, just think how many kids would get to learn about > making there own alternative fuels... > > they come in a verity of styles, > choppers, quads, dirt bikes etc. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Mullan > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:53 AM > To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale) > > > Hell, I'm 44 and would love to try one. Too bad there isn't any reasonable > place to ride one around here. Hmmm, maybe I should pick up a few acres > outside of town > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Addison > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:51 AM > To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale) > > > >i'd be curious to know more (specs, pics) about any scooters they have. > > > >-chris b. > > Hi Chris > > Not really scooters, little motorbikes, though they call them > scooters, laws I suppose. If they're anything like these you can see > why kids would go for them: > http://www.cyphergames.com/49damx3pobi.html > > Anyway, write and ask: > "Scincy.Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Best > > Keith > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > ___ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
RE: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
Yeah I want one too, in NZ you can get them registered as mopeds, of course if some enterprising soul put together a diesel engine for them, just think how many kids would get to learn about making there own alternative fuels... they come in a verity of styles, choppers, quads, dirt bikes etc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Mullan Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 6:53 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale) Hell, I'm 44 and would love to try one. Too bad there isn't any reasonable place to ride one around here. Hmmm, maybe I should pick up a few acres outside of town -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:51 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale) >i'd be curious to know more (specs, pics) about any scooters they have. > >-chris b. Hi Chris Not really scooters, little motorbikes, though they call them scooters, laws I suppose. If they're anything like these you can see why kids would go for them: http://www.cyphergames.com/49damx3pobi.html Anyway, write and ask: "Scincy.Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
RE: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
Hell, I'm 44 and would love to try one. Too bad there isn't any reasonable place to ride one around here. Hmmm, maybe I should pick up a few acres outside of town -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 10:51 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale) >i'd be curious to know more (specs, pics) about any scooters they have. > >-chris b. Hi Chris Not really scooters, little motorbikes, though they call them scooters, laws I suppose. If they're anything like these you can see why kids would go for them: http://www.cyphergames.com/49damx3pobi.html Anyway, write and ask: "Scincy.Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
Hello John Keith Addison wrote: Hello John Keith Addison wrote: Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US you won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to speak, but on the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less fuel so China can have it instead. - K Not really. Buncha fat little kids in serious need of exercise roaring up and down my street on smelly loud two-strokes for entertainment hasn't exactly endeared them to me. Um, yes, I do believe there might well have been some such complaints 45 years ago when we were all doing it with the Italian and Spanish pocket rockets of the day. Garellis, Itoms, Mars Monzas, Maseratis, Pegasos, and they could do 60mph, not just 40 like this newfangled stuff, or only 25 even. Hey, I'd do it all over again, it was great! We weren't fat little kids, we were all pretty fit. I'm sure you're right though, these days. Somebody usually had gravel rash but nobody got killed, not even by the neighbours (good getaway speed). So you're not going to be forwarding me a fat forwarding fee then John? :-) Heh. I guess that came out a little more crotchity than I intended. I have no problem with kids being loud and having fun. Didn't mean to imply that. We had lots of fun riding way too fast on minibikes as kids, and no, nobody got killed; but then again, we didn't know about global warming, oil wasn't $60/barrel, and we weren't at war. I just question the wisdom of buying a kid a polluting toy that wastes gasoline when we're past Hubbard's Peak and in the middle of a war when instead, you could *gasp* buy the kid a bicycle which might encourage the kid to *gasp* get some exercise. You're completely right. (Bows deeply.) That was my point. So yeah, no finders fee for you. :) :-) I suppose I'll manage to struggle along without it. Worth a try though. Best Keith (Just to be clear to the non-US readers on the list. I'm not talking about the small displacement transportation scooters you practically trip over in Rome and elsewhere. Those have utility. Instead, I'm talking about the increasingly popular new generation of highly stylized "pocket bikes" that are intended strictly as toys.) jh ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
Keith Addison wrote: Hello John Keith Addison wrote: Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US you won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to speak, but on the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less fuel so China can have it instead. - K Not really. Buncha fat little kids in serious need of exercise roaring up and down my street on smelly loud two-strokes for entertainment hasn't exactly endeared them to me. Um, yes, I do believe there might well have been some such complaints 45 years ago when we were all doing it with the Italian and Spanish pocket rockets of the day. Garellis, Itoms, Mars Monzas, Maseratis, Pegasos, and they could do 60mph, not just 40 like this newfangled stuff, or only 25 even. Hey, I'd do it all over again, it was great! We weren't fat little kids, we were all pretty fit. I'm sure you're right though, these days. Somebody usually had gravel rash but nobody got killed, not even by the neighbours (good getaway speed). So you're not going to be forwarding me a fat forwarding fee then John? :-) Heh. I guess that came out a little more crotchity than I intended. I have no problem with kids being loud and having fun. Didn't mean to imply that. We had lots of fun riding way too fast on minibikes as kids, and no, nobody got killed; but then again, we didn't know about global warming, oil wasn't $60/barrel, and we weren't at war. I just question the wisdom of buying a kid a polluting toy that wastes gasoline when we're past Hubbard's Peak and in the middle of a war when instead, you could *gasp* buy the kid a bicycle which might encourage the kid to *gasp* get some exercise. That was my point. So yeah, no finders fee for you. :) (Just to be clear to the non-US readers on the list. I'm not talking about the small displacement transportation scooters you practically trip over in Rome and elsewhere. Those have utility. Instead, I'm talking about the increasingly popular new generation of highly stylized "pocket bikes" that are intended strictly as toys.) jh ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
Hello John Keith Addison wrote: Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US you won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to speak, but on the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less fuel so China can have it instead. - K Not really. Buncha fat little kids in serious need of exercise roaring up and down my street on smelly loud two-strokes for entertainment hasn't exactly endeared them to me. Um, yes, I do believe there might well have been some such complaints 45 years ago when we were all doing it with the Italian and Spanish pocket rockets of the day. Garellis, Itoms, Mars Monzas, Maseratis, Pegasos, and they could do 60mph, not just 40 like this newfangled stuff, or only 25 even. Hey, I'd do it all over again, it was great! We weren't fat little kids, we were all pretty fit. I'm sure you're right though, these days. Somebody usually had gravel rash but nobody got killed, not even by the neighbours (good getaway speed). So you're not going to be forwarding me a fat forwarding fee then John? :-) Regards Keith Here's what the NY Times had to say a couple of weeks back. jh A Big Load of Zip and Noise for Just 50 Pounds of Bike By ROBERT JOHNSON Published: July 10, 2005 SPEEDY, high-styled and low-slung, the minimotorcycles known as pocket rockets are hot sellers. But along with these bikes, most of them imports, have come complaints about safety and quality that have caught the attention of many police departments and lawmakers around the nation. Typically priced at $200 to $500 and with engines whose intense whine would endear them to the Wild One, the machines are miniature versions of brawnier bikes that cost many thousands of dollars. That is a combination that many consumers find irresistible. "They make you think, 'Where were these when I was a kid?' " said Greg McLendon, 38, a maintenance worker in Las Vegas who has bought pocket rockets for his sons, Tyler, 11, and Austin, 8. He allows them to ride only on a private commercial track under adult supervision. Pocket rockets are gaining a reputation as the skateboards of the new millennium, but they have their critics, including many police officers, who consider them a hazard, regardless of whether they are ridden legally. "These things are some of the most fun you can have, but the sales are running ahead of parks and tracks where they can be ridden legally," said David Edwards, editor of Cycle World magazine in Newport Beach, Calif. "It isn't realistic to let people buy these and expect them to just ride in their driveways." Why would riders feel restricted? Because pocket rockets fail to meet the minimum safety standards to be driven on many American roadways. Although state laws vary, the minis usually fall short of lighting and other safety standards. And the off-road options are limited: pocket rockets, with their small tires and low chassis, are not all-terrain vehicles fit for trails or the woods. The American market for the minimotorcycles is small, considering that roughly one million full-size motorcycles are sold annually. Precise figures are not available, but the industry estimates that some 25,000 pocket rockets, mostly Chinese imports, have been bought in the United States since the late 1990's. The bikes, usually powered by gasoline engines similar to those in lawnmowers, have a top speed of about 35 miles an hour, but they can be modified to go faster. The most popular ones weigh as little as 50 pounds, though larger ones can weigh closer to 100. Quality can be spotty. "You really need to be mechanical if you're going to own one," said Sherman Smith, owner of the Multi Gear Bike and Sport shop in Riverview, Fla. "Most of the nuts and bolts practically vibrate right off the chassis during a ride." He still sells them, he said, because his profit margins from repairing them are so good. He buys various brands on the Internet from California-based importers. "But the brands are basically just different decals that someone puts on them," he said. The pocket-rocket makers themselves, of course, beg to differ. The Suzhou Ufree Sports Vehicle Manufacture Company, in Jiangsu, China, does offer to manufacture bikes that importers can sell under their own brand names, but says the quality of all bikes it makes is consistently excellent. The Yongkang City Bosuer Vehicle Company, based in Zhejiang province, promotes its "perfect quality assurance system" on its Web site and adds that "winning customers with reputation is our basic strategy." Although some familiar names are available in the pocket-rocket market, they may not be what they seem. Ufree makes a bike called the Mini Harley. The wholesale price is just $142.50. But a Harley-Davidson spokesman in Milwaukee, Bob Klein, said his company had not licensed the product. Some models have at least a tenuous connection to their bigger brethren. For example, a
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
i'd be curious to know more (specs, pics) about any scooters they have. -chris b. Hi Chris Not really scooters, little motorbikes, though they call them scooters, laws I suppose. If they're anything like these you can see why kids would go for them: http://www.cyphergames.com/49damx3pobi.html Anyway, write and ask: "Scincy.Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
Keith Addison wrote: Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US you won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to speak, but on the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less fuel so China can have it instead. - K Not really. Buncha fat little kids in serious need of exercise roaring up and down my street on smelly loud two-strokes for entertainment hasn't exactly endeared them to me. Here's what the NY Times had to say a couple of weeks back. jh A Big Load of Zip and Noise for Just 50 Pounds of Bike By ROBERT JOHNSON Published: July 10, 2005 SPEEDY, high-styled and low-slung, the minimotorcycles known as pocket rockets are hot sellers. But along with these bikes, most of them imports, have come complaints about safety and quality that have caught the attention of many police departments and lawmakers around the nation. Typically priced at $200 to $500 and with engines whose intense whine would endear them to the Wild One, the machines are miniature versions of brawnier bikes that cost many thousands of dollars. That is a combination that many consumers find irresistible. "They make you think, 'Where were these when I was a kid?' " said Greg McLendon, 38, a maintenance worker in Las Vegas who has bought pocket rockets for his sons, Tyler, 11, and Austin, 8. He allows them to ride only on a private commercial track under adult supervision. Pocket rockets are gaining a reputation as the skateboards of the new millennium, but they have their critics, including many police officers, who consider them a hazard, regardless of whether they are ridden legally. "These things are some of the most fun you can have, but the sales are running ahead of parks and tracks where they can be ridden legally," said David Edwards, editor of Cycle World magazine in Newport Beach, Calif. "It isn't realistic to let people buy these and expect them to just ride in their driveways." Why would riders feel restricted? Because pocket rockets fail to meet the minimum safety standards to be driven on many American roadways. Although state laws vary, the minis usually fall short of lighting and other safety standards. And the off-road options are limited: pocket rockets, with their small tires and low chassis, are not all-terrain vehicles fit for trails or the woods. The American market for the minimotorcycles is small, considering that roughly one million full-size motorcycles are sold annually. Precise figures are not available, but the industry estimates that some 25,000 pocket rockets, mostly Chinese imports, have been bought in the United States since the late 1990's. The bikes, usually powered by gasoline engines similar to those in lawnmowers, have a top speed of about 35 miles an hour, but they can be modified to go faster. The most popular ones weigh as little as 50 pounds, though larger ones can weigh closer to 100. Quality can be spotty. "You really need to be mechanical if you're going to own one," said Sherman Smith, owner of the Multi Gear Bike and Sport shop in Riverview, Fla. "Most of the nuts and bolts practically vibrate right off the chassis during a ride." He still sells them, he said, because his profit margins from repairing them are so good. He buys various brands on the Internet from California-based importers. "But the brands are basically just different decals that someone puts on them," he said. The pocket-rocket makers themselves, of course, beg to differ. The Suzhou Ufree Sports Vehicle Manufacture Company, in Jiangsu, China, does offer to manufacture bikes that importers can sell under their own brand names, but says the quality of all bikes it makes is consistently excellent. The Yongkang City Bosuer Vehicle Company, based in Zhejiang province, promotes its "perfect quality assurance system" on its Web site and adds that "winning customers with reputation is our basic strategy." Although some familiar names are available in the pocket-rocket market, they may not be what they seem. Ufree makes a bike called the Mini Harley. The wholesale price is just $142.50. But a Harley-Davidson spokesman in Milwaukee, Bob Klein, said his company had not licensed the product. Some models have at least a tenuous connection to their bigger brethren. For example, an electric-powered Honda minibike is being sold at some auto parts stores in the United States for $180. Lee Edmunds, a spokesman for American Honda Motor's motorcycle division in Torrance, Calif., said his company licensed them a few years ago to a foreign manufacturer he didn't identify. "It's really more of a toy," he said, "not in the same league as the gasoline-powered pocket rockets." Honda doesn't intend to enter the faster gas-powered-rocket field, he said, largely because of safety concerns. On roads, the faster pocket rockets are difficult for motorists to see, and they usually lack headlights and turn signals. Steve Kohler, a Cali
Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
i'd be curious to know more (specs, pics) about any scooters they have. -chris b. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fwd: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale)
Anyone want a containerful of pocket bikes? If you're in the US you won't be doing much good for the balance of trade, so to speak, but on the other hand 138 people will be using a lot less fuel so China can have it instead. - K From: "Scincy.Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: pocket bike USD85.00 (hot sale) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:51:55 +0800 Dear keith, Hope everything goes very well at your side. we are reliable pocket bike manufacturer,an we can offer you better price and service and quality. Regarding one most popular pocket bike,our price is only FOB NINGBO USD85.00,and its specification is as follow: our price is only USD85.00,and the specifications is as follow: 1) Motive: 49cc,two stroke 2) Start: handle-power 3) Oil type: petrol, 1: 25 engine oil mixing 4) Cool way: air cooling 5) Brake: front and rear disc brake 6)Tank capacity: 2.5L 7) Tire: 13inches°° 8)Revolving mode: chain driving°° 9)Load: £æ110kgs G.W./N.W.: 25 / 23kg Speed: £æ55km/h 10)User age: °ð14 years old 11)Container: 138pcs/20ft; 286pcs/40ft; 330pcs/40ft HQ please feel free to contact us if you need vehicles or scooters,I can send you more details and pictures. Your early reply will be highly appreciated. best regards, Scincy.Lee 2005-07-19 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
