[Biofuel] Giving up

2005-09-12 Thread Brent S
well, I have found a batch of oil that won't sepparate. I have heated it to 
220f to make sure there isn't any water in it. It has been at 220f for an 
hour or so with no boiling. I have titrated it several times with a result 
of 5. I have made test batches at 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10 grams per litre with no 
sepparation, just a light brown soup that jells when it cools.

the oil itself seams to stay quite thick up to 120-130f. Is there anything 
that could be in the oil to make it do this?

Brent



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Re: [Biofuel] Giving up

2005-09-12 Thread Mike Weaver
My experience is to spend more time looking for oil you can work with 
than trying to crack iffy oil...

Brent S wrote:

well, I have found a batch of oil that won't sepparate. I have heated it to 
220f to make sure there isn't any water in it. It has been at 220f for an 
hour or so with no boiling. I have titrated it several times with a result 
of 5. I have made test batches at 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10 grams per litre with no 
sepparation, just a light brown soup that jells when it cools.

the oil itself seams to stay quite thick up to 120-130f. Is there anything 
that could be in the oil to make it do this?

Brent



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Re: [Biofuel] Giving up

2005-09-12 Thread des
Brent S wrote:

well, I have found a batch of oil that won't sepparate. I have heated it to 
220f to make sure there isn't any water in it. It has been at 220f for an 
hour or so with no boiling. I have titrated it several times with a result 
of 5. I have made test batches at 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10 grams per litre with no 
sepparation, just a light brown soup that jells when it cools.

the oil itself seams to stay quite thick up to 120-130f. Is there anything 
that could be in the oil to make it do this?

Brent
  

In a situation like this, I'd probably eliminate variables...  Use 
virgin oil for a test batch, make up a fresh batch of NaOH titration 
solution, find out if the methanol is pure, the NaOH is still NaOH, not 
contaminated with CO2 or water, and see if separation happens correctly.

doug




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Re: [Biofuel] Giving up

2005-09-12 Thread Zeke Yewdall
It could be hydrogenated oil of some sort.  This makes lousy WVO,
because it stay so thick at relatively high temperatures.  We just
avoid it.

On 9/12/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My experience is to spend more time looking for oil you can work with
 than trying to crack iffy oil...
 
 Brent S wrote:
 
 well, I have found a batch of oil that won't sepparate. I have heated it to
 220f to make sure there isn't any water in it. It has been at 220f for an
 hour or so with no boiling. I have titrated it several times with a result
 of 5. I have made test batches at 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10 grams per litre with no
 sepparation, just a light brown soup that jells when it cools.
 
 the oil itself seams to stay quite thick up to 120-130f. Is there anything
 that could be in the oil to make it do this?
 
 Brent
 
 
 
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