Re: [Biofuel] Harmonization of the patent system
Michael, I was considering working for a company that helps inventors bring their products to market for a share of the royalties in a three year period. It is called Science and Technology. But I hesitated until further research. Can you tell me more about those types of companies? And how do they align with your observation on the US Patent Office and harmonization. My main appeal is to help inventors with their new inventions. That is why I did a stint at www.mstarlabs.com But the some folks told me to be careful with those marketing firms who try to help inventors go to market becuase maybe they are just really looking to make a buck off the fee and share of royalties. However, if a small inventor does not have the wherewithal to go to market I see not problem in paying fee or contingency for that service. Is it not a win-win situation or am I going the wrong way? I would not mind making a nice salary and helping inventors too. I look forwards to your observations. P. Wolfe an Independent --- Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please forward this to anyone who values his or her civil liberties. I want to bring everyones attention to the exploratory meeting of the US Patent and Trademark Office to discuss harmonization of the US patent system. The United States is the only country to have a first to invent strategy for the granting of patents (http://www.idearights.com/firsttoinvt.htm). This allows small businesses and individuals with limited resources to participate and receive fair treatment so that credit is given where credit is due. This system has contributed greatly to our country as a leader in technical innovation and has proven to be far more effective that any other system in the world. If harmonization occurs, it would force us into a bureaucratic mess that can keep many inventors from getting legitimate patent rights and can even be prevented from commercialization. When large companies are threatened by the invention of someone with fewer resources, they can keep the inventor in litigation for the life of the patent. It will make it cost prohibitive for people like you and me to apply for a patent as you would be competing with firms that have patent factories churning out every idea that comes to mind with almost limitless legal and financial resources. more than 70% of U.S. origin applications are filed only in the U.S. by small businesses and independent inventors which file 45% of all U.S. origin patents. http://www.inventionconvention.com/inventorsvoice/report/section17.html For those of you who are less familiar with the history of American innovators, you might want to do some research on your own. You can start by searching the origins of the saying the real McCoy (http://www.inventions.org/culture/african/mccoy.html) or looking at the lives of some of our most prolific inventors like Edison and Morse. Some of them had very humble beginnings. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/filmmore/s1.html http://www.northstar.k12.ak.us/schools/ryn/projects/inventors/inventors.html Our current president is in favor of the harmonization treaty. Every day, I am more convinced that our current administration in Washington is one of the most destructive in our nations history. I want to end this message with a bit of irony. Edison, who once slaughtered pigs to support himself, invented the first electric vote recorder. If he were subjected to a harmonized patent system (with todays level of corporate power and influence) in his earlier years, we might have been in the dark a little longer. Mike Redler, Design Engineer and Amateur Inventor ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Harmonization of the patent system -- There is a new threat on the horizon!
I like your choice of words Todd. Yes, there IS a new threat on the horizon. The obligation of the inventor in a first to invent system is due diligence. That means that as long as the inventor practices good record keeping and documents the date of invention, he or she has rights to that intellectual property and there is little that the patent mills can do about it except try to invent around it. However in a first to file system, not only is there a requirement to file for every idea immediately (irrespective of whether or not you can afford it) in order to protect yourself, the possibility exists for someone else (like a patent mill) to steal your idea and rush it to the patent office before you. The bottom line is that the bureaucracy created by a first to file system makes it so that those with an abundance of the financial and legal resources has an unfair advantage over those individuals who have the potential to be truly innovative. The links in my original email goes into the explanation with more detail -- especially http://www.inventionconvention.com/inventorsvoice/report/section17.html Mike Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I still don't comprehend what you're trying to relay. Patent mills have been at it for decades. That's nothing new. Your post makes it sound as if there's some new threat on the horizon. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Michael Redler To: Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Harmonization of the patent system Hi Todd, I thought I did (below). When large companies are threatened by the invention of someone with fewer resources, they can keep the inventor in litigation for the life of the patent. It will make it cost prohibitive for people like you and me to apply for a patent as you would be competing with firms that have 'patent factories' churning out every idea that comes to mind with almost limitless legal and financial resources. I'm wondering if I'm not explaining this directly enough (I'm not being sarcastic). I alluded to curbing ones rights as being prohibited by a lack of resources or by being bullied by those who have an abundance of resources. I'm wondering if there are more legal aspects (direct legislation) that limits the rights of individuals. Do you have any information in that regard? Thanks, Mike Appal Energy wrote: Michael, You didn't explain what harmonization would entail that would curb the rights of inventors. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Michael Redler To: Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Harmonization of the patent system Please forward this to anyone who values his or her civil liberties. I want to bring everyone's attention to the exploratory meeting of the US Patent and Trademark Office to discuss harmonization of the US patent system. The United States is the only country to have a first to invent strategy for the granting of patents (http://www.idearights.com/firsttoinvt.htm). This allows small businesses and individuals with limited resources to participate and receive fair treatment so that credit is given where credit is due. This system has contributed greatly to our country as a leader in technical innovation and has proven to be far more effective that any other system in the world. If harmonization occurs, it would force us into a bureaucratic mess that can keep many inventors from getting legitimate patent rights and can even be prevented from commercialization. When large companies are threatened by the invention of someone with fewer resources, they can keep the inventor in litigation for the life of the patent. It will make it cost prohibitive for people like you and me to apply for a patent as you would be competing with firms that have patent factories churning out every idea that comes to mind with almost limitless legal and financial resources. .more than 70% of U.S. origin applications are filed only in the U.S. by small businesses and independent inventors which file 45% of all U.S. origin patents. http://www.inventionconvention.com/inventorsvoice/report/section17.html For those of you who are less familiar with the history of American innovators, you might want to do some research on your own. You can start by searching the origins of the saying .the real McCoy (http://www.inventions.org/culture/african/mccoy.html) or looking at the lives of some of our most prolific inventors like Edison and Morse. Some of them had very humble beginnings. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/filmmore/s1.html http://www.northstar.k12.ak.us/schools/ryn/projects/inventors/inventors.html Our current president is in favor of the harmonization treaty. Every day, I am more convinced that our current administration in Washington is one of the most destructive in our nation's history
Re: [Biofuel] Harmonization of the patent system
Please forward this to anyone who values his or her civil liberties. I want to bring everyones attention to the exploratory meeting of the US Patent and Trademark Office to discuss harmonization of the US patent system. The United States is the only country to have a first to invent strategy for the granting of patents (http://www.idearights.com/firsttoinvt.htm). This allows small businesses and individuals with limited resources to participate and receive fair treatment so that credit is given where credit is due. This system has contributed greatly to our country as a leader in technical innovation and has proven to be far more effective that any other system in the world. If harmonization occurs, it would force us into a bureaucratic mess that can keep many inventors from getting legitimate patent rights and can even be prevented from commercialization. When large companies are threatened by the invention of someone with fewer resources, they can keep the inventor in litigation for the life of the patent. It will make it cost prohibitive for people like you and me to apply for a patent as you would be competing with firms that have patent factories churning out every idea that comes to mind with almost limitless legal and financial resources. more than 70% of U.S. origin applications are filed only in the U.S. by small businesses and independent inventors which file 45% of all U.S. origin patents. http://www.inventionconvention.com/inventorsvoice/report/section17.html For those of you who are less familiar with the history of American innovators, you might want to do some research on your own. You can start by searching the origins of the saying the real McCoy (http://www.inventions.org/culture/african/mccoy.html) or looking at the lives of some of our most prolific inventors like Edison and Morse. Some of them had very humble beginnings. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/filmmore/s1.html http://www.northstar.k12.ak.us/schools/ryn/projects/inventors/inventors.html Our current president is in favor of the harmonization treaty. Every day, I am more convinced that our current administration in Washington is one of the most destructive in our nations history. I want to end this message with a bit of irony. Edison, who once slaughtered pigs to support himself, invented the first electric vote recorder. If he were subjected to a harmonized patent system (with todays level of corporate power and influence) in his earlier years, we might have been in the dark a little longer. Mike Redler, Design Engineer and Amateur Inventor ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Harmonization of the patent system
You didn't explain what harmonization would entail that would curb the rights of inventors. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Harmonization of the patent system Please forward this to anyone who values his or her civil liberties. I want to bring everyone's attention to the exploratory meeting of the US Patent and Trademark Office to discuss harmonization of the US patent system. The United States is the only country to have a first to invent strategy for the granting of patents (http://www.idearights.com/firsttoinvt.htm). This allows small businesses and individuals with limited resources to participate and receive fair treatment so that credit is given where credit is due. This system has contributed greatly to our country as a leader in technical innovation and has proven to be far more effective that any other system in the world. If harmonization occurs, it would force us into a bureaucratic mess that can keep many inventors from getting legitimate patent rights and can even be prevented from commercialization. When large companies are threatened by the invention of someone with fewer resources, they can keep the inventor in litigation for the life of the patent. It will make it cost prohibitive for people like you and me to apply for a patent as you would be competing with firms that have patent factories churning out every idea that comes to mind with almost limitless legal and financial resources. .more than 70% of U.S. origin applications are filed only in the U.S. by small businesses and independent inventors which file 45% of all U.S. origin patents. http://www.inventionconvention.com/inventorsvoice/report/section17.html For those of you who are less familiar with the history of American innovators, you might want to do some research on your own. You can start by searching the origins of the saying .the real McCoy (http://www.inventions.org/culture/african/mccoy.html) or looking at the lives of some of our most prolific inventors like Edison and Morse. Some of them had very humble beginnings. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/filmmore/s1.html http://www.northstar.k12.ak.us/schools/ryn/projects/inventors/inventors.html Our current president is in favor of the harmonization treaty. Every day, I am more convinced that our current administration in Washington is one of the most destructive in our nation's history. I want to end this message with a bit of irony. Edison, who once slaughtered pigs to support himself, invented the first electric vote recorder. If he were subjected to a harmonized patent system (with today's level of corporate power and influence) in his earlier years, we might have been in the dark a little longer. Mike Redler, Design Engineer and Amateur Inventor ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Harmonization of the patent system
Hi Todd, I thought I did (below). When large companies are threatened by the invention of someone with fewer resources, they can keep the inventor in litigation for the life of the patent. It will make it cost prohibitive for people like you and me to apply for a patent as you would be competing with firms that have 'patent factories' churning out every idea that comes to mind with almost limitless legal and financial resources. I'm wondering if I'm not explaining this directly enough (I'm not being sarcastic). I alluded to curbing ones rights as being prohibited by a lack of resources or by being bullied by those who have an abundance of resources. I'm wondering if there are more legal aspects (direct legislation) that limits the rights of individuals. Do you have any information in that regard? Thanks, Mike Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, You didn't explain what harmonization would entail that would curb the rights of inventors. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Michael Redler To: Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Harmonization of the patent system Please forward this to anyone who values his or her civil liberties. I want to bring everyone's attention to the exploratory meeting of the US Patent and Trademark Office to discuss harmonization of the US patent system. The United States is the only country to have a first to invent strategy for the granting of patents (http://www.idearights.com/firsttoinvt.htm). This allows small businesses and individuals with limited resources to participate and receive fair treatment so that credit is given where credit is due. This system has contributed greatly to our country as a leader in technical innovation and has proven to be far more effective that any other system in the world. If harmonization occurs, it would force us into a bureaucratic mess that can keep many inventors from getting legitimate patent rights and can even be prevented from commercialization. When large companies are threatened by the invention of someone with fewer resources, they can keep the inventor in litigation for the life of the patent. It will make it cost prohibitive for people like you and me to apply for a patent as you would be competing with firms that have patent factories churning out every idea that comes to mind with almost limitless legal and financial resources. .more than 70% of U.S. origin applications are filed only in the U.S. by small businesses and independent inventors which file 45% of all U.S. origin patents. http://www.inventionconvention.com/inventorsvoice/report/section17.html For those of you who are less familiar with the history of American innovators, you might want to do some research on your own. You can start by searching the origins of the saying .the real McCoy (http://www.inventions.org/culture/african/mccoy.html) or looking at the lives of some of our most prolific inventors like Edison and Morse. Some of them had very humble beginnings. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/filmmore/s1.html http://www.northstar.k12.ak.us/schools/ryn/projects/inventors/inventors.html Our current president is in favor of the harmonization treaty. Every day, I am more convinced that our current administration in Washington is one of the most destructive in our nation's history. I want to end this message with a bit of irony. Edison, who once slaughtered pigs to support himself, invented the first electric vote recorder. If he were subjected to a harmonized patent system (with today's level of corporate power and influence) in his earlier years, we might have been in the dark a little longer. Mike Redler, Design Engineer and Amateur Inventor ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
