Re: [Biofuel] Pittsburgh to Run City Trucks on Biodiesel | Domestic Fuel
Sounds like they are installing a dual tank system to allow starting on diesel then switching to biodiesel later to prevent jelling issues. If it were just running on biodiesel in weather above 30F or so, my typical proceedure is just to have a few spare fuel filters handy. usually somewhere in the $10 to $50 each range, not $7500 Z On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Darryl McMahon dar...@econogics.com wrote: http://domesticfuel.com/2015/02/19/pittsburgh-to-run-city- trucks-on-biodiesel/ [So, what do you need to do to a diesel truck to run it on biodiesel which costs $7,500 per truck? And how much green fuel do you have to burn to save more than $7,500 per truck, so it will actually save the city money, when petro-diesel is selling for less than $3 a gallon? This site ( http://www.altfuelprices.com/stations/BD/Pennsylvania/Pittsburgh/) says this station (http://www.bbapgh.com/) is selling biodiesel at $5.29 a gallon. I guess that depends on how much the state alt fuel grants are paying.] Pittsburgh to Run City Trucks on Biodiesel Posted on February 19, 2015 by John Davis The City of Pittsburgh soon could be running some of its trucks on biodiesel. This article from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says a proposal is before the city council to enter into a $150,000 agreement with Optimus Technologies to convert about 20 Department of Public Works trucks to run on the green fuel, which will reduce emissions and save the city money. Grant Ervin, the city’s sustainability manager, said Optimus’ Vector fuel system was tested on five municipal trucks in a pilot program that started in 2013. The goal is to add it to other city vehicles as an analysis of the city’s fleet needs continues. “That’s what really exciting about it,” Mr. Ervin said, adding that part of the cost of the program will be covered by state alternative fuel grants. “For us, it’s a tool we can extend to other vehicles. … What the Optimus technology does is basically create hybrid vehicles.” In cold weather, when biofuel can be plagued by “gelling,” the trucks can be started on conventional diesel fuel and switched to biofuel when it warms up, said Optimus CEO Colin Huwyler. The biodiesel that could be used would be made from recycled cooking oil, non food-grade corn oil from the ethanol industry and rendered animal fat. ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Pittsburgh to Run City Trucks on Biodiesel | Domestic Fuel
Yeah, yeah. Maybe material incompatibility issues as well: - replace rubber fuel lines seals - heated fuel tank for BD Some of the disasters blamed on BD really were the result of one of its virtues: good solvent; cleaned out residue from tanks and fuel lines clogged filters. The BD I used in the diesel that I ran year round was treated with winterized petro diesel, 30-40% petro when it got below 30F. That, and a block heater and it ran in cold weather. I like the feedstock, all co-products, wastes of other industries. - USED veg oil - oil from ethanol industry (fermentation does not involve the oil; can be pressed out prior to fermentation and used). - rendered animal fat; but will have a high gel point Tom On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 07:24:08 -0700 Zeke Yewdall zyewd...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like they are installing a dual tank system to allow starting on diesel then switching to biodiesel later to prevent jelling issues. If it were just running on biodiesel in weather above 30F or so, my typical proceedure is just to have a few spare fuel filters handy. usually somewhere in the $10 to $50 each range, not $7500 Z On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Darryl McMahon dar...@econogics.com wrote: http://domesticfuel.com/2015/02/19/pittsburgh-to-run-city- trucks-on-biodiesel/ [So, what do you need to do to a diesel truck to run it on biodiesel which costs $7,500 per truck? And how much green fuel do you have to burn to save more than $7,500 per truck, so it will actually save the city money, when petro-diesel is selling for less than $3 a gallon? This site ( http://www.altfuelprices.com/stations/BD/Pennsylvania/Pittsburgh/) says this station (http://www.bbapgh.com/) is selling biodiesel at $5.29 a gallon. I guess that depends on how much the state alt fuel grants are paying.] Pittsburgh to Run City Trucks on Biodiesel Posted on February 19, 2015 by John Davis The City of Pittsburgh soon could be running some of its trucks on biodiesel. This article from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says a proposal is before the city council to enter into a $150,000 agreement with Optimus Technologies to convert about 20 Department of Public Works trucks to run on the green fuel, which will reduce emissions and save the city money. Grant Ervin, the city’s sustainability manager, said Optimus’ Vector fuel system was tested on five municipal trucks in a pilot program that started in 2013. The goal is to add it to other city vehicles as an analysis of the city’s fleet needs continues. “That’s what really exciting about it,” Mr. Ervin said, adding that part of the cost of the program will be covered by state alternative fuel grants. “For us, it’s a tool we can extend to other vehicles. … What the Optimus technology does is basically create hybrid vehicles.” In cold weather, when biofuel can be plagued by “gelling,” the trucks can be started on conventional diesel fuel and switched to biofuel when it warms up, said Optimus CEO Colin Huwyler. The biodiesel that could be used would be made from recycled cooking oil, non food-grade corn oil from the ethanol industry and rendered animal fat. ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
[Biofuel] Pittsburgh to Run City Trucks on Biodiesel | Domestic Fuel
http://domesticfuel.com/2015/02/19/pittsburgh-to-run-city-trucks-on-biodiesel/ [So, what do you need to do to a diesel truck to run it on biodiesel which costs $7,500 per truck? And how much green fuel do you have to burn to save more than $7,500 per truck, so it will actually save the city money, when petro-diesel is selling for less than $3 a gallon? This site (http://www.altfuelprices.com/stations/BD/Pennsylvania/Pittsburgh/) says this station (http://www.bbapgh.com/) is selling biodiesel at $5.29 a gallon. I guess that depends on how much the state alt fuel grants are paying.] Pittsburgh to Run City Trucks on Biodiesel Posted on February 19, 2015 by John Davis The City of Pittsburgh soon could be running some of its trucks on biodiesel. This article from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says a proposal is before the city council to enter into a $150,000 agreement with Optimus Technologies to convert about 20 Department of Public Works trucks to run on the green fuel, which will reduce emissions and save the city money. Grant Ervin, the city’s sustainability manager, said Optimus’ Vector fuel system was tested on five municipal trucks in a pilot program that started in 2013. The goal is to add it to other city vehicles as an analysis of the city’s fleet needs continues. “That’s what really exciting about it,” Mr. Ervin said, adding that part of the cost of the program will be covered by state alternative fuel grants. “For us, it’s a tool we can extend to other vehicles. … What the Optimus technology does is basically create hybrid vehicles.” In cold weather, when biofuel can be plagued by “gelling,” the trucks can be started on conventional diesel fuel and switched to biofuel when it warms up, said Optimus CEO Colin Huwyler. The biodiesel that could be used would be made from recycled cooking oil, non food-grade corn oil from the ethanol industry and rendered animal fat. ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
