Re: [Biofuel] Separation

2005-08-23 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Dave

Keith

Virgin oil was the first test
Wvo next. 1 litre bottles.
I.m in the process of stepping up now.
This was the first two batched over 1 litre.

Uh-huh, let me guess, I'm doing quite well so far - one-litre PET 
soft-drink bottles, just put it in, shake it 3.5 times or whatever 
and it's ready an hour later, or something like that anyway?

Just used 6.5 grams, no titration.
Washed as usual and it did come out nice.

What does as usual mean? And nice?

Did you do this?
  Try the wash test:
  http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality


Gotta do a ph test

Of what, the biodiesel? How will you do that?

then filter and run with it

But how far? Dozens of trouble-free miles? (No I didn't make it up.)

No need for titration, just shake-it-all-up in a bottle - it's 
hopeless Dave, you're accelerating down a cul-de-sac. Before you hit 
the brick wall at the end, go back to the beginning and do it right. 
Start here:
Where do I start?
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start

Keep going.

Let's put it this way (not for the first time): It's you vs the 
mighty ExxonMobil - and you win! And it's better stuff too! Or at 
least it should be. Why cut corners when it's so easy to do it 
properly?

Best wishes

Keith


Thanks  Dave

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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Separation


  Hello Dave
 
  I've done a couple batches of WVO. One 11 ltr and another 8 ltr.
 Both with 6.5 grams methoxide mix.
 
  Did you titrate it or did you just use 6.5 grams as some people
  still advise? Did you start with virgin oil first?
 
 Both batches settled completely within about 1 hour with no more settling
 even though I let them settle for over 12 hours.
 
  Sure there was more settling, even if you couldn't perceive it. I
  think you'd soon see the difference if you tried to wash it after 1
  hour as opposed to 12 hours settling.
 
 I've read that it takes about at least 12hrs to get complete separation.
 
  That's right.
 
 Am I doing something wrong or am I going overboard.
 
  Try the wash test:
  http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality
 
  Best wishes
 
  Keith
 
 
 I've got a marked 100ml flask and both times I'm getting about 12ml
 of glyserol.
 
 Dave


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[Biofuel] Separation

2005-08-22 Thread DCBooth



I've done a couple batches of WVO. One 11 ltr 
and another 8 ltr.
Both with 6.5 gramsmethoxide 
mix.
Both batches settled completely within about 1 hour 
with no more settling 
even though I let them settle for over 12 
hours.
I've read that it takesabout at least 12hrs 
to get complete separation.
Am I doing something wrong or am I going 
overboard.
I've got a marked 100ml flask and both times I'm 
getting about 12ml of glyserol.

Dave
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Re: [Biofuel] Separation

2005-08-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Dave

 I've done a couple batches of WVO. One 11 ltr and another 8 ltr.
Both with 6.5 grams methoxide mix.

Did you titrate it or did you just use 6.5 grams as some people 
still advise? Did you start with virgin oil first?

Both batches settled completely within about 1 hour with no more settling
even though I let them settle for over 12 hours.

Sure there was more settling, even if you couldn't perceive it. I 
think you'd soon see the difference if you tried to wash it after 1 
hour as opposed to 12 hours settling.

I've read that it takes about at least 12hrs to get complete separation.

That's right.

Am I doing something wrong or am I going overboard.

Try the wash test:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality

Best wishes

Keith


I've got a marked 100ml flask and both times I'm getting about 12ml 
of glyserol.

Dave


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Re: [Biofuel] Separation

2005-08-22 Thread DCBooth
Keith

Virgin oil was the first test
Wvo next. 1 litre bottles.
I.m in the process of stepping up now.
This was the first two batched over 1 litre.

Just used 6.5 grams, no titration.
Washed as usual and it did come out nice.
Gotta do a ph test then filter and run with it

Thanks  Dave

- Original Message - 
From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Separation


 Hello Dave

 I've done a couple batches of WVO. One 11 ltr and another 8 ltr.
Both with 6.5 grams methoxide mix.

 Did you titrate it or did you just use 6.5 grams as some people
 still advise? Did you start with virgin oil first?

Both batches settled completely within about 1 hour with no more settling
even though I let them settle for over 12 hours.

 Sure there was more settling, even if you couldn't perceive it. I
 think you'd soon see the difference if you tried to wash it after 1
 hour as opposed to 12 hours settling.

I've read that it takes about at least 12hrs to get complete separation.

 That's right.

Am I doing something wrong or am I going overboard.

 Try the wash test:
 http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality

 Best wishes

 Keith


I've got a marked 100ml flask and both times I'm getting about 12ml
of glyserol.

Dave


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[biofuel] Separation of ethanol from water

2003-07-17 Thread Marc de Piolenc

Will only the potassium salt work? Or is it the carbonium ion that does
the trick?

Marc de Piolenc

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