Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-27 Thread Mike Weaver
OTOH, I think we in the home-brew community need to be alert for any movement on the part of the big trap grease companies to do just this. I believe they will start to feel threatened and make collection of WVO difficult by. 1. Having it legislated as a hazardous material 2. WVO will require

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-26 Thread John Hayes
Zeke Yewdall wrote: I was under the impression that the viscosity reduction was the entire reason for doing transesterification. Otherwise, whats the benefit of using biodiesel instead of SVO? Much less coking. jh ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-26 Thread bob allen
more cooking, less coking... : ) John Hayes wrote: Zeke Yewdall wrote: I was under the impression that the viscosity reduction was the entire reason for doing transesterification. Otherwise, whats the benefit of using biodiesel instead of SVO? Much less coking. jh

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-26 Thread John Hayes
Evergreen Solutions wrote: I believe in researching storage legality that BD must be treated as a Category 3 explosive, you won't find such a thing w/ SVO/WVO. What!?! Biodiesel isn't even flammable, let alone explosive. Instead, it's considered a combustible liquid because the flashpoint

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-26 Thread Mike Weaver
Source? John Hayes wrote: Evergreen Solutions wrote: I believe in researching storage legality that BD must be treated as a Category 3 explosive, you won't find such a thing w/ SVO/WVO. What!?! Biodiesel isn't even flammable, let alone explosive. Instead, it's considered a

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-26 Thread Mike Weaver
Let's leave the 80's out of this, thanks bob allen wrote: more cooking, less coking... : ) John Hayes wrote: Zeke Yewdall wrote: I was under the impression that the viscosity reduction was the entire reason for doing transesterification. Otherwise, whats the benefit of using

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-26 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Transestherification swaps out the glycerol chain for an alcohol one w/i the molecular bond of the oil, which, like Keith said, makes it burn...or rather explode under pressure better than SVO. I believe in researching storage legality that BD must be treated as a Category 3 explosive, you

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-26 Thread Keith Addison
Zeke Yewdallwrote: snip Regarding the emissions of SVO, I have some EPA data from a 1974 Mercedes running on WVO that has never been published. I'll post it here if I can find it again. Some students did the testing on a senior design project that I was overseeing last year, but they didn't

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-26 Thread Keith Addison
Transestherification swaps out the glycerol chain for an alcohol one w/i the molecular bond of the oil, which, like Keith said, makes it burn...or rather explode under pressure That's better put, thanks. better than SVO. I believe in researching storage legality that BD must be treated

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-26 Thread Evergreen Solutions
better than SVO. I believe in researching storage legality that BD must be treated as a Category 3 explosive, I think we'd like a reference for that. Hrm, well, I can't find what I was thinking of just now. According to this: http://www.biodieselgear.com/documentation/methanol.htm , Methanol is a

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-25 Thread Kevin Bond
Fritz, The answer to your first question is no I didn't. However it's your second question that I'm responding to. According to the link you provided, it states that it will work with biodiesel. I don't know if you really didn't look at the site or were simply trolling. As to the effacy of the

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-25 Thread Ken Provost
On Sep 25, 2005, at 7:15 AM, Kevin Bond wrote: As to the effacy of the device, I question it based on the statement [Biodiesel] is produced through a process which lowers the viscosity of vegetable oils, such as canola oil, allowing them to be burned in existing diesel engines without

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-25 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Any one who has done at least a little research into the biodiesel conversion process is aware that it removes glycerin from the wvo and converts the oil into esters. Viscosity reduction may be a by product but is not why the process is done. I was under the impression that the viscosity

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-25 Thread Zeke Yewdall
From what I read, the device functions by assisting in dispersion of the fuel -- just like the new super high pressure CRD injection systems. So if it really does do that, I can see that it would help. However, I am a little skeptical that I can actually do this. Even assuming that it perfectly

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-25 Thread John Mullan
I'm think the other side of the story may be that they, like many large corporations, will actually talk down to potential customers, or in language the company believes will be best understood. Whether reducing viscosity or not being the original purpose, more of the non-initiated general public

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-25 Thread Kevin Bond
Gentlemen, I stand corrected. Kevin Zeke Yewdall wrote: Any one who has done at least a little research into the biodiesel conversion process is aware that it removes glycerin from the wvo and converts the oil into esters. Viscosity reduction may be a by product but is not why the process is

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-25 Thread Keith Addison
Any one who has done at least a little research into the biodiesel conversion process is aware that it removes glycerin from the wvo and converts the oil into esters. Viscosity reduction may be a by product but is not why the process is done. I was under the impression that the viscosity

Re: [Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-25 Thread Evergreen Solutions
Transestherification swaps out the glycerol chain for an alcohol one w/i the molecular bond of the oil, which, like Keith said, makes it burn...or rather explode under pressure better than SVO. I believe in researching storage legality that BD must be treated as a Category 3 explosive, you won't

[Biofuel] Tadgerdevice

2005-09-24 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hallo @ all, did anyone of you know about this Tadgerdevice to enhance burning of Fuel etc.? www.tadgergroup.com would this device work with Biofuel to? thanks for your input Fritz ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org