Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World
Hallo Skak, It is our dialect called boarisch or Bayerisch in standard German or Bavarian in englisch. Boarisch is getting rare I think. I am the last one in our family to speak it and I now speak it poorly as the only other one I could speak it with, my grandmother, died decades ago. I tried teaching it to my children and now to my grandchildren but they didn't/don't want to be different than their friends so it doesn't stick. When my oldest hit 28 she told me she wished she had learned German/Bavarian when she had the chance. Told her so. hehehe One of my young friends from Bavaria, Uli (52), comes here once a year and we speak in boarisch on and off. Mostly he is with others who don't speak the dialect so we have to use standard German which I also don't speak very well any longer. Other than the bible I don't read much in German so once a year isn't enough to keep me fluent. I am ashamed of myself but such is life I suppose. Anyhow, Uli tells me that he hears less and less Bavarian spoken in Bavaria and then mostly out on the land and mostly among older folks. Fritz has called it the language of resistance. I never thought of it that way but I like the idea. It is the language our people used before predatory culture became the norm, the reality. It is the language of the land, the family, the community. There is a smallness (in the best sense) and cohesiveness about it as well as a plainness and honesty of expression. We don't say feces when shit will do. It is the language of the common person full of life and humor. The name of those things which dangle between a mans legs are called Glockngspui in Bavarian which translates to Glockenspiel or chimes. I can't imagine that in standard German. It is the language people (used to) speak at home among family and friends. This is probably more than you wished to know but it is what it is friend. Happy Happy, Gustl Friday, 07 September, 2007, 06:14:27, you wrote: KSP Now I got curious; Exactly what language was that? KSP I know the languages from the countries surrounding DK, and it's none of them. KSP Greetings from Denmark, Europe KSP Skak KSP On 07/09/2007, Fritz Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eh Ken, thats simply the language of resistance! Fritz - Original Message - From: Ken Provost To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Grüaßdi Fritzl, Jawoi, Bua! Leida heitztaag denga in d oid Hoamatl vuizvui Leit wia d Saupreiß. Göid und no Göid. Jamei Bua, so a Schmarrn! Pfüatdi Whoa! That ain't the German I learnt in college! -K -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/a9470bdd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/532201ff/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ KSP ___ KSP Biofuel mailing list KSP Biofuel@sustainablelists.org KSP http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel KSP Biofuel at Journey to Forever: KSP http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html KSP Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): KSP http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. We can't change the winds but we can adjust our sails. The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straße liegen, daß sie gerade deshalb von der gewöhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness
Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World
Now I got curious; Exactly what language was that? I know the languages from the countries surrounding DK, and it's none of them. Greetings from Denmark, Europe Skak On 07/09/2007, Fritz Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eh Ken, thats simply the language of resistance! Fritz - Original Message - From: Ken Provost To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Grüaßdi Fritzl, Jawoi, Bua! Leida heitztaag denga in d oid Hoamatl vuizvui Leit wia d Saupreiß. Göid und no Göid. Jamei Bua, so a Schmarrn! Pfüatdi Whoa! That ain't the German I learnt in college! -K -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/a9470bdd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/532201ff/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Danke Gustl Das war genau was ich wissen wollte. oder - Thanks Gustl That was exactly what I wanted to know. So I was dead-wrong. Actually it was more German than German. I admit that you got me there. A couple of years ago, I was listening to some locals in München but I didn't recognize boarisch today. Gustl - don't let boarisch die a slow death. Find more people in your area. Via internet or maybe via a note in the supermarket. Keep it alive! I I know this is very far from biodiesel but heck - du hattest erstes öl gemacht - so to speak. Grüß Skak aus region nord On 07/09/2007, Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Skak, It is our dialect called boarisch or Bayerisch in standard German or Bavarian in englisch. Boarisch is getting rare I think. I am the last one in our family to speak it and I now speak it poorly as the only other one I could speak it with, my grandmother, died decades ago. I tried teaching it to my children and now to my grandchildren but they didn't/don't want to be different than their friends so it doesn't stick. When my oldest hit 28 she told me she wished she had learned German/Bavarian when she had the chance. Told her so. hehehe One of my young friends from Bavaria, Uli (52), comes here once a year and we speak in boarisch on and off. Mostly he is with others who don't speak the dialect so we have to use standard German which I also don't speak very well any longer. Other than the bible I don't read much in German so once a year isn't enough to keep me fluent. I am ashamed of myself but such is life I suppose. Anyhow, Uli tells me that he hears less and less Bavarian spoken in Bavaria and then mostly out on the land and mostly among older folks. Fritz has called it the language of resistance. I never thought of it that way but I like the idea. It is the language our people used before predatory culture became the norm, the reality. It is the language of the land, the family, the community. There is a smallness (in the best sense) and cohesiveness about it as well as a plainness and honesty of expression. We don't say feces when shit will do. It is the language of the common person full of life and humor. The name of those things which dangle between a mans legs are called Glockngspui in Bavarian which translates to Glockenspiel or chimes. I can't imagine that in standard German. It is the language people (used to) speak at home among family and friends. This is probably more than you wished to know but it is what it is friend. Happy Happy, Gustl Friday, 07 September, 2007, 06:14:27, you wrote: KSP Now I got curious; Exactly what language was that? KSP I know the languages from the countries surrounding DK, and it's none of them. KSP Greetings from Denmark, Europe KSP Skak KSP On 07/09/2007, Fritz Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eh Ken, thats simply the language of resistance! Fritz - Original Message - From: Ken Provost To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Grüaßdi Fritzl, Jawoi, Bua! Leida heitztaag denga in d oid Hoamatl vuizvui Leit wia d Saupreiß. Göid und no Göid. Jamei Bua, so a Schmarrn! Pfüatdi Whoa! That ain't the German I learnt in college! -K -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/a9470bdd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/532201ff/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ KSP ___ KSP Biofuel mailing list KSP Biofuel@sustainablelists.org KSP http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel KSP Biofuel at Journey to Forever: KSP http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html KSP Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages
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That was German. It is phonetically written German dialect from one of the southern areas. Simon Fowler MADUR ELECTRONICS Voitgasse 4 A-1220 Vienna Phone: + 43-1-2584502 Fax: + 43-1-2584502-22 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our homepage: www.madur.com, www.madur.at, www.madurusa.com Kåre Skak Pedersen schrieb: Now I got curious; Exactly what language was that? I know the languages from the countries surrounding DK, and it's none of them. Greetings from Denmark, Europe Skak On 07/09/2007, Fritz Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eh Ken, thats simply the language of resistance! Fritz - Original Message - From: Ken Provost To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Grüaßdi Fritzl, Jawoi, Bua! Leida heitztaag denga in d oid Hoamatl vuizvui Leit wia d Saupreiß. Göid und no Göid. Jamei Bua, so a Schmarrn! Pfüatdi Whoa! That ain't the German I learnt in college! ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Hello Skak, its good old bavarian (the language of the haeven :)) ) Fritz - Original Message - From: Kåre Skak Pedersen To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World Now I got curious; Exactly what language was that? I know the languages from the countries surrounding DK, and it's none of them. Greetings from Denmark, Europe Skak On 07/09/2007, Fritz Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eh Ken, thats simply the language of resistance! Fritz - Original Message - From: Ken Provost To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Grüaßdi Fritzl, Jawoi, Bua! Leida heitztaag denga in d oid Hoamatl vuizvui Leit wia d Saupreiß. Göid und no Göid. Jamei Bua, so a Schmarrn! Pfüatdi Whoa! That ain't the German I learnt in college! -K -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/a9470bdd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/532201ff/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070907/5380e018/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Well sayd Gustl Thanks Fritz By the way,du you know the boarische Weltg'schicht von Michel Ehbauer? - Original Message - From: Gustl Steiner-Zehender To: Kåre Skak Pedersen Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World Hallo Skak, It is our dialect called boarisch or Bayerisch in standard German or Bavarian in englisch. Boarisch is getting rare I think. I am the last one in our family to speak it and I now speak it poorly as the only other one I could speak it with, my grandmother, died decades ago. I tried teaching it to my children and now to my grandchildren but they didn't/don't want to be different than their friends so it doesn't stick. When my oldest hit 28 she told me she wished she had learned German/Bavarian when she had the chance. Told her so. hehehe One of my young friends from Bavaria, Uli (52), comes here once a year and we speak in boarisch on and off. Mostly he is with others who don't speak the dialect so we have to use standard German which I also don't speak very well any longer. Other than the bible I don't read much in German so once a year isn't enough to keep me fluent. I am ashamed of myself but such is life I suppose. Anyhow, Uli tells me that he hears less and less Bavarian spoken in Bavaria and then mostly out on the land and mostly among older folks. Fritz has called it the language of resistance. I never thought of it that way but I like the idea. It is the language our people used before predatory culture became the norm, the reality. It is the language of the land, the family, the community. There is a smallness (in the best sense) and cohesiveness about it as well as a plainness and honesty of expression. We don't say feces when shit will do. It is the language of the common person full of life and humor. The name of those things which dangle between a mans legs are called Glockngspui in Bavarian which translates to Glockenspiel or chimes. I can't imagine that in standard German. It is the language people (used to) speak at home among family and friends. This is probably more than you wished to know but it is what it is friend. Happy Happy, Gustl Friday, 07 September, 2007, 06:14:27, you wrote: KSP Now I got curious; Exactly what language was that? KSP I know the languages from the countries surrounding DK, and it's none of them. KSP Greetings from Denmark, Europe KSP Skak KSP On 07/09/2007, Fritz Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eh Ken, thats simply the language of resistance! Fritz - Original Message - From: Ken Provost To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Grüaßdi Fritzl, Jawoi, Bua! Leida heitztaag denga in d oid Hoamatl vuizvui Leit wia d Saupreiß. Göid und no Göid. Jamei Bua, so a Schmarrn! Pfüatdi Whoa! That ain't the German I learnt in college! -K -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/a9470bdd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/532201ff/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ KSP ___ KSP Biofuel mailing list KSP Biofuel@sustainablelists.org KSP http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel KSP Biofuel at Journey to Forever: KSP http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html KSP Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): KSP http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. We can't change the winds but we can adjust our sails. The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft
[Biofuel] Who owns you World
We are even worse in Australia- we are a nation which longs to be Americans, but can't quite pull it off. We live their culture vicariously throught the tellie and movies. America may be the last original culture on earth, as all others strive to be like them. Hey Mike and Josh, good news for both of you! There is still a bunch of real Bavarians und as i know for shure a lot of Quebecers who resist the trend of americanism! Fritz -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/71a1107e/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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Grüaßdi Fritzl, Jawoi, Bua! Leida heitztaag denga in d oid Hoamatl vuizvui Leit wia d Saupreiß. Göid und no Göid. Jamei Bua, so a Schmarrn! Pfüatdi, Gustl Thursday, 06 September, 2007, 13:05:32, you wrote: FF We are even worse in Australia- we are a nation which longs to be Americans, but can't quite pull it off. We live their culture vicariously throught the tellie and movies. America may be the last original culture on earth, as all others strive to be like them. FF Hey Mike and Josh, FF good news for both of you! FF There is still a bunch of real Bavarians und as i know for shure a lot of Quebecers who resist the trend of americanism! FF Fritz FF -- next part -- ...snip... -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. We can't change the winds but we can adjust our sails. The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, The Screwtape Letters Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straße liegen, daß sie gerade deshalb von der gewöhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Grüaßdi Fritzl, Jawoi, Bua! Leida heitztaag denga in d oid Hoamatl vuizvui Leit wia d Saupreiß. Göid und no Göid. Jamei Bua, so a Schmarrn! Pfüatdi Whoa! That ain't the German I learnt in college! -K -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/a9470bdd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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eh Ken, thats simply the language of resistance! Fritz - Original Message - From: Ken Provost To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Who owns you World On Sep 6, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Gustl Steiner-Zehender wrote: Grüaßdi Fritzl, Jawoi, Bua! Leida heitztaag denga in d oid Hoamatl vuizvui Leit wia d Saupreiß. Göid und no Göid. Jamei Bua, so a Schmarrn! Pfüatdi Whoa! That ain't the German I learnt in college! -K -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/a9470bdd/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20070906/532201ff/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
