[Biofuel] Castor oil as a therapy

2007-01-06 Thread Wes Moore
Thanks to D. Mindock  for the Castor oil post. Here is one comment from
someone whom I passed this on to:

Hi Wes,  since  Dr. Hamilton left I`ve been without a doctor, anyway to make
a long story short I found a narouapathis [sp?] practitioner in Glen Tay,
he`s kept me going when I thought I`d had it! castor oil is his fixit for
everything, blueberries are his favourite followed by flax seed oil, I know
it sounds delightful but a little bit of honey makes the medicine go down!
See you S.

 

Appreciating beneficial posts like this I think some folks may be interested
in this:

http://www.rexresearch.com/milkovic/milkovic.htm  

I believe the link was contributed from Keelynet.com.  A fellow from Serbia
has discovered over unity energy from the application of a pendulum used in
conjunction with a lever.

There seems to have been a resurgence of advances in over unity lately.
Including that unspeakable  magnetic motion. . hope this is not offensive to
anyone.,

Wes

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Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil as a therapy

2007-01-06 Thread Frank Navarrete
Hi Wes,
Interesting link to Milkovic's work.  I wonder if you could apply
added pendulum energy to a bicycle, and have a sort of long-distance
low-effort gear.

On 1/6/07, Wes Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Thanks to D. Mindock  for the Castor oil post. Here is one comment from
 someone whom I passed this on to:

 Hi Wes,  since  Dr. Hamilton left I`ve been without a doctor, anyway to make
 a long story short I found a narouapathis [sp?] practitioner in Glen Tay,
 he`s kept me going when I thought I`d had it! castor oil is his fixit for
 everything, blueberries are his favourite followed by flax seed oil, I know
 it sounds delightful but a little bit of honey makes the medicine go down!
 See you S.



 Appreciating beneficial posts like this I think some folks may be interested
 in this:

 http://www.rexresearch.com/milkovic/milkovic.htm

 I believe the link was contributed from Keelynet.com.  A fellow from Serbia
 has discovered over unity energy from the application of a pendulum used in
 conjunction with a lever.

 There seems to have been a resurgence of advances in over unity lately.
 Including that unspeakable  magnetic motion. … hope this is not offensive to
 anyone.,

 Wes
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[Biofuel] Castor oil as a therapy -- interesting article

2007-01-05 Thread D. Mindock
Castor Oil

From David William's Alternatives Newsletter. 

CASTOR OIL - Natural Protection from Deadly Viruses

Dr. David G. Williams -- ALTERNATIVES -- v6 n1, July 1995
__

Moving on to more exotic techniques to increase immune system
efficiency, we come to castor oil. I can remember my dad telling me
time after time about his mother's devotion to castor oil when he was
growing up. At the first sign of any illness in one child, she would
immediately give all the children a quick oral dose of castor oil.
There's no doubt it provided a quick solution for constipation, and
from what I can tell, it must have a positive effect on memory too. My
dad can vividly remember the taste and effects of castor oil to this
very day.

In many ways, castor oil is a very unique substance. While most of us
are familiar with its use as a remedy for constipation, folk healers
in this country and around the world have used castor oil to treat a
wide variety of conditions. Its effectiveness is probably due in part
to its peculiar chemical composition.

Castor oil is a triglyceride of fatty acids. Almost 90 percent of its
fatty acid content consists of ricinoleic acid. To my knowledge,
ricinoleic acid is not found in any other substance except castor oil.
Such a high concentration of this unusual, unsaturated fatty acid is
thought to be responsible for castor oil's remarkable healing abilities.

Ricinoleic acid has been shown to be effective in preventing the
growth of numerous species of viruses, bacteria, yeasts and molds. (J
Am Oil Chem Soc 61;37.323-325.) This would explain the high degree of
success in the topical use of the oil for treating such ailments as
ringworm, keratoses (non-cancerous, wart-like skin growths), skin
inflammation, abrasions, fungal-infected finger- and toenails, acne
and chronic pruritus (itching). Generally, for these conditions the
area involved is simply wrapped in cloth soaked with castor oil each
night, or if the area is small enough, a castor oil soaked Band-Aid
can be used. (For persistent infections and those finger- and toenails
that have discolored and hardened, a good 10 to 20 minute soak in
Epsom salts, prior to applying the castor oil, usually speeds up the
healing process.)

Castor oil's antimicrobial activity, while very impressive, comprises
only a small part of the story concerning this mysterious oil. While
castor oil has been thoroughly investigated for its industrial uses,
only a minimal amount of research effort has been directed toward its
medicinal benefits.

In Russia the oil is known as Kastorka. The stem of the plant is
used in the textile industry. The extracted oil has a very consistent
viscosity and won't freeze even in Russia's severe climate. This makes
it an ideal lubricating oil in industrial equipment. Medicinally, the
oil is added to products to restore hair (one part oil to 10 parts of
grain alcohol), treat constipation, skin ulcers, some infectious
gynecological conditions and eye irritations.

The castor bean plant is actually native to India, where it is called
Erand. There we found it being used extensively for all types of
gastrointestinal problems like constipation, dysentery and
inflammatory bowel disease. It was also used to treat bladder and
vaginal infections and asthma. We were told the seed kernels or hulls
(without the actual seed) could be boiled in milk and water and taken
internally to relieve arthritis and lower back pain accompanied by
sciatica.

We also found early reports of nursing mothers in the Canary Islands
using poultices made from the leaves of the castor bean. They applied
the poultice to their breasts to increase milk secretion and relieve
inflammation and milk stagnation in the mammary glands. Applying the
poultice to the abdominal area promoted normal menstruation.

While I find all of these uses of castor oil very interesting, the
most exciting use deals with ways to increase topical absorption
through the use of castor oil packs or poultices.

Much of the current use of castor oil packs, in the U.S. anyway, can
be attributed to the late healing psychic, Edgar Cayce. Time after
time he recommended their use. Based on his reports, I began to use
them in my practice over 12 years ago. But even though I, and numerous
other doctors, have continued to experience remarkable results, the
technique is still practically unknown and shunned by most health care
professionals today. This is probably due to two reasons. First, it's
just too simple. It's hard for most people to imagine that something
as simple as castor oil packs could have a profound effect on any
health problem. Secondly, in our present health care system, positive
results alone do not constitute the critical factor in determining
whether a treatment will be accepted by the medical establishment.
[Everybody (except probably the poor patient) now seems to be more
concerned about how something is supposed to work, than 

[Biofuel] Castor Oil Based Biodiesel

2007-01-05 Thread KAKU CHOPRA
Dear All,
   
  We made a small 100 litre batch with exact measurements. We got glycerine and 
the biodiesel layer is clear. But when we are washing it some creamish 
layercomes up. It seperates easily from water and forms a different white or 
layer.
   
  Please suggest where we have been stuck up.
   
  Regards,
  KAKU CHOPRA.
   

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Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil

2006-06-26 Thread Jason Katie
if im reading this right, castor shells can be distilled and the ethanol be 
introduced into the BD to thin it? the heat from distilling the mash should 
damage the ricin, and even if it cant be composted immediately, it could be 
digested for methane energy output and the sludge could/should be composted 
for maximum effect in the field. this eliminates the need for tight security 
and disposes of a hazardous material all at once. brilliant work everyone, 
thank you!!!

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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil


Hello

I would like to know if it´s posible to make biodiesel from castor oil.

Hi Andrés

Certainly it's possible. I think you can just make it the same way as
with any other oil.

Castor beans can yield three times as much oil as soybeans, averaging
1,413 litres of oil per hectare or 151 US gal per acre or more. The
plant often grows as a weed on waste land and doesn't need much or
any care and attention.

 From previous messages:

I have had some experience in growing the plant a few years ago. The
plant grows into a stalk approximately 5-7' tall with a diameter of
approximately 4', it will continue to produce seeds continuely for
several months. The seeds grow from bunches with approximately 6-8
seed pods per bunch, with each pod containing 3 seeds encased in a
hard shell. -- Addison Griffith

In Chile, castor bean is a serious weed. It grows extremely fast,
reaching over two meters height and diameter within 8 months. If you
have moisture, as near an irrigation canal, you can collect many
hundreds of seeds, even perhaps a thousand or more from each plant.
It thrives on no management or additional fertilization. Roadsides
are a good place to find them. I considered them, together with
jojoba, as an oil seed crop, before selling out and moving to
Argentina. I crushed one, yes one, plant's worth in a primitive
homemade press and got about a liter of oil. -- Andres Yver

The oil has a lower Iodine Value (85) than either soy or rapeseed oil
so it won't oxidise and polymerise as easily and can be stored for
years without deteriorating. Unlike palm oil it also has a low
melting point (-18 deg C), making it a good winter fuel.

The seed contains ricin, which is highly toxic, but it's in the seed
husk and remains in the seedcake, there isn't any in the oil. The
seedcake is said to be suitable for use as an organic fertiliser (but
it isn't easily composted). But it is a disadvantage that the
seedcake cannot be fed to livestock.

James Duke says: Although it is highly toxic due to the ricin, a
method of detoxicating the meal has now been found, so that it can
safely be fed to livestock. See: Ricinus communis, Handbook of
Energy Crops, James A. Duke, 1983
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Ricinus_communis.html

Pannirselvam in Brazil discussed a direct process, without extracting
the oil from the crushed seeds first: ...one step simultaneous
extraction and esterification, the patented process use crushed seeds
to make four products, the biodiesel, the glycerol, the protein,
carbohydrate that seem to be deintoxicated for animal feed.

Bob Allen said: I interpreted this to mean that the crushed seeds
are subjected to the alkali catalyst/methanol hence the seedcake is
exposed to the reaction... Ricin is a protein which would be
denatured by the reaction conditions. Denaturation just means
changing the shape of the protein, thus inactivating it.

But we don't know the details of the process Pannirselvam mentioned.
He also said One main problem with castor oil BioD is the viscosity
that can be easily solved. But he didn't say how.

Castor oil is much more viscous than other vegetable oils, and 100
times more viscous than petroleum diesel fuel. As with all oils, it's
much less viscous once turned into biodiesel, but the viscosity is
still higher than the limits allowed by the national biodiesel
standards.

Blending it with some ethanol might be a solution. Unlike most other
vegetable oils, castor oil is ethanol soluble. Pannirselvam also
mentioned producing ethanol from the carbohydrate portion of the
seedcake, leaving just the protein for the livestock feed.

This paper in the Biofuels online library discusses using castor oil
to separate  anhydrous ethanol, which could be used instead of
methanol in the biodiesel process.

Separating Ethanol From Water -- by Renaldo V. Jenkins of Langley
Research Center, Hampton, Virginia, USA. More economical methods of
separating water from ethanol to produce anhydrous ethanol:
2. using castor oil.
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/eth_separate.html#castoil

This is an informative website about castor oil, and biodiesel generally:

http://www.castoroil.in/uses/fuel/castor_oil_fuel.html
Castor Oil as Biofuel  Biodiesel - Info, WWW Resources

Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil

2006-06-24 Thread Andrés Pinto Negreira
Viscosity is a big problem. If viscosityof castor oil biodiesel ishigher than the limits allowed by the standards, it's a good idea to make biodiesel from castor oil? How can be solved this problem?Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:  HelloI would like to know if it´s posible to make biodiesel from castor oil.Hi AndrésCertainly it's possible. I think you can just make it the same way as with any other oil.Castor beans can yield three times as much oil as soybeans, averaging 1,413 litres of oil per hectare or 151 US gal per acre or more. The plant often grows as a weed on waste land and doesn't need much or any care and attention.From previous messages:"I have had some experience in growing the plant a few years ago. The plant grows into a
 stalk approximately 5-7' tall with a diameter of approximately 4', it will continue to produce seeds continuely for several months. The seeds grow from bunches with approximately 6-8 seed pods per bunch, with each pod containing 3 seeds encased in a hard shell." -- Addison Griffith"In Chile, castor bean is a serious weed. It grows extremely fast, reaching over two meters height and diameter within 8 months. If you have moisture, as near an irrigation canal, you can collect many hundreds of seeds, even perhaps a thousand or more from each plant. It thrives on no management or additional fertilization. Roadsides are a good place to find them. I considered them, together with jojoba, as an oil seed crop, before selling out and moving to Argentina. I crushed one, yes one, plant's worth in a primitive homemade press and got about a liter of oil." -- Andres YverThe oil has a lower Iodine Value (85) than either soy
 or rapeseed oil so it won't oxidise and polymerise as easily and can be stored for years without deteriorating. Unlike palm oil it also has a low melting point (-18 deg C), making it a good winter fuel.The seed contains ricin, which is highly toxic, but it's in the seed husk and remains in the seedcake, there isn't any in the oil. The seedcake is said to be suitable for use as an organic fertiliser (but it isn't easily composted). But it is a disadvantage that the seedcake cannot be fed to livestock.James Duke says: "Although it is highly toxic due to the ricin, a method of detoxicating the meal has now been found, so that it can safely be fed to livestock." See: Ricinus communis, "Handbook of Energy Crops", James A. Duke, 1983http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Ricinus_communis.htmlPannirselvam in Brazil discussed a direct process, without extracting the oil from the crushed seeds first:
 "...one step simultaneous extraction and esterification, the patented process use crushed seeds to make four products, the biodiesel, the glycerol, the protein, carbohydrate that seem to be deintoxicated for animal feed."Bob Allen said: "I interpreted this to mean that the crushed seeds are subjected to the alkali catalyst/methanol hence the seedcake is exposed to the reaction... Ricin is a protein which would be denatured by the reaction conditions. Denaturation just means changing the shape of the protein, thus inactivating it."But we don't know the details of the process Pannirselvam mentioned. He also said "One main problem with castor oil BioD is the viscosity that can be easily solved." But he didn't say how.Castor oil is much more viscous than other vegetable oils, and 100 times more viscous than petroleum diesel fuel. As with all oils, it's much less viscous once turned into biodiesel, but the
 viscosity is still higher than the limits allowed by the national biodiesel standards.Blending it with some ethanol might be a solution. Unlike most other vegetable oils, castor oil is ethanol soluble. Pannirselvam also mentioned producing ethanol from the carbohydrate portion of the seedcake, leaving just the protein for the livestock feed.This paper in the Biofuels online library discusses using castor oil to separate anhydrous ethanol, which could be used instead of methanol in the biodiesel process.Separating Ethanol From Water -- by Renaldo V. Jenkins of Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia, USA. More economical methods of separating water from ethanol to produce anhydrous ethanol:2. using castor oil.http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/eth_separate.html#castoilThis is an informative website about castor oil, and biodiesel
 generally:http://www.castoroil.in/uses/fuel/castor_oil_fuel.htmlCastor Oil as Biofuel  Biodiesel - Info, WWW Resources on Castoroilas Bio-fuel, Bio-dieselSome previous messages you should read:http://snipurl.com/s4vkRe: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, span rutiThu, 06 Apr 2006http://snipurl.com/s4vlRe: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, sKeith AddisonWed, 12 Apr 2006http://snipurl.com/s4vmRe: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, span rutiFri, 21 Apr 2006Hope this helps.BestKeith___Biofuel 

[Biofuel] Castor oil

2006-06-22 Thread Andrés Pinto Negreira
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Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil

2006-06-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hello

I would like to know if it´s posible to make biodiesel from castor oil.

Hi Andrés

Certainly it's possible. I think you can just make it the same way as 
with any other oil.

Castor beans can yield three times as much oil as soybeans, averaging 
1,413 litres of oil per hectare or 151 US gal per acre or more. The 
plant often grows as a weed on waste land and doesn't need much or 
any care and attention.

 From previous messages:

I have had some experience in growing the plant a few years ago. The 
plant grows into a stalk approximately 5-7' tall with a diameter of 
approximately 4', it will continue to produce seeds continuely for 
several months. The seeds grow from bunches with approximately 6-8 
seed pods per bunch, with each pod containing 3 seeds encased in a 
hard shell. -- Addison Griffith

In Chile, castor bean is a serious weed. It grows extremely fast, 
reaching over two meters height and diameter within 8 months. If you 
have moisture, as near an irrigation canal, you can collect many 
hundreds of seeds, even perhaps a thousand or more from each plant. 
It thrives on no management or additional fertilization. Roadsides 
are a good place to find them. I considered them, together with 
jojoba, as an oil seed crop, before selling out and moving to 
Argentina. I crushed one, yes one, plant's worth in a primitive 
homemade press and got about a liter of oil. -- Andres Yver

The oil has a lower Iodine Value (85) than either soy or rapeseed oil 
so it won't oxidise and polymerise as easily and can be stored for 
years without deteriorating. Unlike palm oil it also has a low 
melting point (-18 deg C), making it a good winter fuel.

The seed contains ricin, which is highly toxic, but it's in the seed 
husk and remains in the seedcake, there isn't any in the oil. The 
seedcake is said to be suitable for use as an organic fertiliser (but 
it isn't easily composted). But it is a disadvantage that the 
seedcake cannot be fed to livestock.

James Duke says: Although it is highly toxic due to the ricin, a 
method of detoxicating the meal has now been found, so that it can 
safely be fed to livestock. See: Ricinus communis, Handbook of 
Energy Crops, James A. Duke, 1983
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Ricinus_communis.html

Pannirselvam in Brazil discussed a direct process, without extracting 
the oil from the crushed seeds first: ...one step simultaneous 
extraction and esterification, the patented process use crushed seeds 
to make four products, the biodiesel, the glycerol, the protein, 
carbohydrate that seem to be deintoxicated for animal feed.

Bob Allen said: I interpreted this to mean that the crushed seeds 
are subjected to the alkali catalyst/methanol hence the seedcake is 
exposed to the reaction... Ricin is a protein which would be 
denatured by the reaction conditions. Denaturation just means 
changing the shape of the protein, thus inactivating it.

But we don't know the details of the process Pannirselvam mentioned. 
He also said One main problem with castor oil BioD is the viscosity 
that can be easily solved. But he didn't say how.

Castor oil is much more viscous than other vegetable oils, and 100 
times more viscous than petroleum diesel fuel. As with all oils, it's 
much less viscous once turned into biodiesel, but the viscosity is 
still higher than the limits allowed by the national biodiesel 
standards.

Blending it with some ethanol might be a solution. Unlike most other 
vegetable oils, castor oil is ethanol soluble. Pannirselvam also 
mentioned producing ethanol from the carbohydrate portion of the 
seedcake, leaving just the protein for the livestock feed.

This paper in the Biofuels online library discusses using castor oil 
to separate  anhydrous ethanol, which could be used instead of 
methanol in the biodiesel process.

Separating Ethanol From Water -- by Renaldo V. Jenkins of Langley 
Research Center, Hampton, Virginia, USA. More economical methods of 
separating water from ethanol to produce anhydrous ethanol:
2. using castor oil.
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/eth_separate.html#castoil

This is an informative website about castor oil, and biodiesel generally:

http://www.castoroil.in/uses/fuel/castor_oil_fuel.html
Castor Oil as Biofuel  Biodiesel - Info, WWW Resources on Castoroil
as Bio-fuel, Bio-diesel

Some previous messages you should read:

http://snipurl.com/s4vk
Re: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, s
pan ruti
Thu, 06 Apr 2006

http://snipurl.com/s4vl
Re: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, s
Keith Addison
Wed, 12 Apr 2006

http://snipurl.com/s4vm
Re: [Biofuel] sustainable biodiesel from Casto : Big is not beautiful, s
pan ruti
Fri, 21 Apr 2006

Hope this helps.

Best

Keith


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Re: [Biofuel] castor oil

2006-04-27 Thread Ken Gotberg
  Castor oil is much more valuable as castor oil rather than biodiesel ~ $800 per mt in the US with no processing costs.
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Re: [Biofuel] castor oil

2006-04-27 Thread Keith Addison

Castor oil is much more valuable as castor oil rather than biodiesel 
~ $800 per mt in the US with no processing costs.

Hello Ken

How much you can flog it for in the US isn't the wjhole point.

It grows like a weed, it's free. As Pannirselvam was saying, castor 
oil is one of the lynchpins of rural biofuels projects in the large 
and poverty-stricken arid region of Brazil. They don't aim to sell it 
in the US, they'll use it themselves because they can provide it for 
themselves.

They can provide ethanol for themselves too, and you can do some 
interesting things for local energy independence by mixing the two.

There are also other plans for castor oil fuel in Brazil.

In India, industrial corporations that are well aware of market 
prices are doing large-sized domestic deals involving castor-oil 
biodiesel, so there must be more to the global supply-and-demand 
picture than you say. Not that local biofuelers are interested in the 
global supply-and-demand picture anyway.

Best

Keith


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[Biofuel] castor oil

2006-04-26 Thread Randall Phelps
I think I remember hearing that Castor oil was used like like motor oil 
in lawn mowers during oil fuel rationing in WWII.

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Re: [Biofuel] castor oil

2006-04-26 Thread bob allen
see for example

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/productdetailmin.do?categoryId=9003076contentId=6008867

Randall Phelps wrote:
 I think I remember hearing that Castor oil was used like like motor oil 
 in lawn mowers during oil fuel rationing in WWII.
 
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[Biofuel] Castor oil for 2-Cycle? was ethanol:gasoline ratio

2005-01-08 Thread JCT



snip

I also asked about biolubricants to use in 2 cycle engines and was given
the following reply:
The best lubricant for 2-cycle use is Castor oil.  You can buy it at
any pharmacy and it is soluble in ethanol.  Add about 2 oz per gallon.

And again, there may be more information that differs.  This just sounds
very easy and convenient.  Hope that this helps.

Best wishes,
Peggy

---
Hi Peggy,
Been lurking here for sometimes but now you really caught my 
attention as I hate my chain saw exhaust smell/pollution...
Do I understand well that I could use 2 oz castor oil per 132 oz 
ethanol (4 liters) in my chain saw?
What other modification would have to be made to the chain saw to be 
ethanol/castor oil ready? I heard of rubber problem? Can ethanol be 
replaced by methanol?

JCT
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Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil for 2-Cycle? was ethanol:gasoline ratio

2005-01-08 Thread busyditch

Castor oil has been used as lubricant in 2 cycle engines for years in the
world of motorsports racing. The downside is it does leave harmful deposits
in the combustion chamber and piston, reducing the life of the engine.
Racing engines are constantly being re-built, so the deposits are not a
factor in engine life. So be forewarned that bean oil may lead to a
shorter life in your chainsaw. The good news is that replacing a piston is
relatively easy, and a good lesson in mechanics for anyone wishing to be
more  green.
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 From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 I also asked about biolubricants to use in 2 cycle engines and was given
 the following reply:
 The best lubricant for 2-cycle use is Castor oil.  You can buy it at
 any pharmacy and it is soluble in ethanol.  Add about 2 oz per gallon.

 And again, there may be more information that differs.  This just sounds
 very easy and convenient.  Hope that this helps.

 Best wishes,
 Peggy

 ---
 Hi Peggy,
 Been lurking here for sometimes but now you really caught my
 attention as I hate my chain saw exhaust smell/pollution...
 Do I understand well that I could use 2 oz castor oil per 132 oz
 ethanol (4 liters) in my chain saw?
 What other modification would have to be made to the chain saw to be
 ethanol/castor oil ready? I heard of rubber problem? Can ethanol be
 replaced by methanol?
 JCT
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[biofuel] castor oil

2002-07-25 Thread William Clark

To any responders:
I noticed on the JTF website that castor beans are a high yield oil crop. Also, 
that castor oil can be used to produce anhydrous ethanol. What are the 
prospects or problems associated with castor oil as feedstock for biodiesel 
production? It seems to me that the use of castor oil presents an opportunity 
to close the loop in the production process.

Curiously,

Bill C.


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Re: [biofuel] castor oil

2002-07-25 Thread Ken Provost

Bill C. writes:


I noticed on the JTF website that castor beans are a
high yield oil crop. Also, that castor oil can be used
to produce anhydrous ethanol. What are the prospects
or problems associated with castor oil as feedstock for
biodiesel production? It seems to me that the use of
castor oil presents an opportunity to close the loop
in the production process.


I saw that castor oil method of drying wet ethanol,
but the way the abstract was worded sounded like the
experimenter had not even TRIED it, but was only talking
theoretically. The whole process of waiting for all your
ethanol to diffuse thru a layer of oil, all the time keeping
it hot and maybe under vacuum while assiduously avoiding
any bubbling (which would ruin it) seems slow and painful
to me. But hey, give it a try.

As for making biodiesel, I see 2 possible problems. Castor
oil is mostly ricinoleic, which is oleic with a mid-chain
hydroxyl group. The OH group is fairly reactive, and might
have a tendency to make polymer or something else during
the  biodiesel reaction.  A better chemist could address that
one. Also, if the ricinoleic survives well, it could polymerize
(slowly) in storage. Castor is a drying oil, after all...
Again, try it!

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Re: [biofuel] castor oil

2002-07-25 Thread William Clark

Thanks for the input.

Bill C.
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] castor oil


 Bill C. writes:

 
 I noticed on the JTF website that castor beans are a
 high yield oil crop. Also, that castor oil can be used
 to produce anhydrous ethanol. What are the prospects
 or problems associated with castor oil as feedstock for
 biodiesel production? It seems to me that the use of
 castor oil presents an opportunity to close the loop
 in the production process.


 I saw that castor oil method of drying wet ethanol,
 but the way the abstract was worded sounded like the
 experimenter had not even TRIED it, but was only talking
 theoretically. The whole process of waiting for all your
 ethanol to diffuse thru a layer of oil, all the time keeping
 it hot and maybe under vacuum while assiduously avoiding
 any bubbling (which would ruin it) seems slow and painful
 to me. But hey, give it a try.

 As for making biodiesel, I see 2 possible problems. Castor
 oil is mostly ricinoleic, which is oleic with a mid-chain
 hydroxyl group. The OH group is fairly reactive, and might
 have a tendency to make polymer or something else during
 the  biodiesel reaction.  A better chemist could address that
 one. Also, if the ricinoleic survives well, it could polymerize
 (slowly) in storage. Castor is a drying oil, after all...
 Again, try it!


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Re: [biofuel] castor oil

2002-07-25 Thread Keith Addison

To any responders:
I noticed on the JTF website that castor beans are a high yield oil 
crop. Also, that castor oil can be used to produce anhydrous 
ethanol. What are the prospects or problems associated with castor 
oil as feedstock for biodiesel production? It seems to me that the 
use of castor oil presents an opportunity to close the loop in the 
production process.

Curiously,

Bill C.

Don't know much about castor oil biodiesel, shouldn't be a problem - 
acceptable iodine value, non-drying, low melting point, very good 
lubricant. Also don't know much about using it for dehydrating 
ethanol. We only have that one reference and have never had any 
feedback on it. I wish someone would try it. 3A zeolite works just 
fine though. Most US castor oil is imported, by the way, but it does 
grow in the US.

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/afcm/castor.html
Castorbeans

Keith


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Re: [biofuel] castor oil

2002-07-25 Thread fhebert8

   where is the jtf website? I would like know how to use caster oil to make 
anhydrous ethanol.. 

 
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 Date: 2002/07/25 Thu AM 11:47:58 EDT
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 Subject: [biofuel] castor oil
 
 To any responders:
 I noticed on the JTF website that castor beans are a high yield oil crop. 
 Also, that castor oil can be used to produce anhydrous ethanol. What are the 
 prospects or problems associated with castor oil as feedstock for biodiesel 
 production? It seems to me that the use of castor oil presents an opportunity 
 to close the loop in the production process.
 
 Curiously,
 
 Bill C.
 
 
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Re: [biofuel] castor oil

2002-07-25 Thread William Clark

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where is the jtf website? I would like know how to use caster oil to
make anhydrous ethanol..

 
  From: William Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2002/07/25 Thu AM 11:47:58 EDT
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  Subject: [biofuel] castor oil
 
  To any responders:
  I noticed on the JTF website that castor beans are a high yield oil
crop. Also, that castor oil can be used to produce anhydrous ethanol. What
are the prospects or problems associated with castor oil as feedstock for
biodiesel production? It seems to me that the use of castor oil presents an
opportunity to close the loop in the production process.
 
  Curiously,
 
  Bill C.
 
 
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[biofuel] Castor oil

2002-07-25 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc

Quick note: I was considering castor plants as an energy crop for use
here in the Philippines. What deterred me was that Purseglove lists
castor plants as soil-depleting, requiring extensive fertilization to
maintain soil productivity. Further inquiry revealed that castor used to
be cultivated here on a large scale - mainly for paints and varnishes.
It was given up because it wasn't profitable - probably because of the
need to buy lots of imported fertilizer.

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