Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread Appal Energy
Mike,

I'm aware of how you staged your point. But the crux of the matter is 
that you entreated the reader to a defrauding practice (the inflated 
treatment/billing by the medical profession) and then informed the 
readers that they were initially captivated by a story of fraud that was 
fraudulent in itself.

Practicing fraud and then letting a readership know that it has been 
duped has an entirely different flavour and effect than.declaring fraud 
before the fact.

Actual articles to substantiate your point would have been the remedy, 
not presenting hypotheticals. The latter only leaves a reader with a 
feeling of being conned, even if only for a few seconds. It's not a 
practice that is enjoyed by most and only tends to lessen the impact 
that the author may have been able to make or perhaps could make in the 
future, whether it be the same venue or another.

Todd Swearingen

The point was that the focus of the magazine is on how to make money - 
not what is neccessarily the best for the patient.  I said point blank 
the headlines were made up.  They are not real stories - merely an 
imperfect imitation for the purpose of illustration.  I'm not a vet, and 
don't pretend to a credible source on what is best for animal care.  I 
am relating that I have noticed that vet's magazines seem to be very 
focussed on billing and how to make more money.

Appal Energy wrote:

  

Mike,

Making things up doesn't lend well to credibility.

In the immortal words of John Billings, I honestly believe it iz better 
tew know nothing than tew know what ain't so.

Todd Swearingen


 



Or just try reading a Veterinary Practice Magazine.  I have two friends 
who are vets.  Both are quite level-headed, but I do sometime browse 
through their professional magazines.  They have stories such as 
Increase you billing by 40% with the PetVaxx program and Ten tests 
your practice should do routinely  I'm making these up as I don't have 
the magazine in front of me but the gist is the same.

-Mike Weaver

  



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Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Weaver
First off, your second sentance makes no sense - entreated the reader 
to a defrauding practice I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
I never said that the articles or the vets were perpetuating fraud.  I 
made the point that vet magazines often focus on ways to increase a 
practice's billing.
This is not fraud.  This business management.  Fraud is when you 
intentinally deceive someone, generally for gain.  My email is not 
saying that.

With regards to making up the stories, yes, I said clearly that they we 
NOT TRUE in the original email.  I never presented them as anything 
other than
made up.  There is a long history of using made up stories to illustrate 
a point.  The Daily Show.  The Onion.  Modern Humorist.  Not Neccesarily 
The News and so on.  All use fabricated stories to make a point. 

I am sorry if your initial captivation in the first few sentance was 
crushed by the next few sentances.  The whole comment was only five 
sentances long.
I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill.  It was a comment 
on a thread.  Nothing more.  I made no charges of fraud, not did I 
present myself as anything
other than an unreliable narrator.  My email says point blank: I'm 
making these up  They are not true.  My second email also says I am not 
a credible authority.  I don't pretend to be.  It was a tossed-off 
comment.  If I had said these were real articles and then could not 
produce them, then that's something different, but it isn't really 
fraud.  It would be misleading. 

-Mike






Appal Energy wrote:

Mike,

I'm aware of how you staged your point. But the crux of the matter is 
that you entreated the reader to a defrauding practice (the inflated 
treatment/billing by the medical profession) and then informed the 
readers that they were initially captivated by a story of fraud that was 
fraudulent in itself.

Practicing fraud and then letting a readership know that it has been 
duped has an entirely different flavour and effect than.declaring fraud 
before the fact.

Actual articles to substantiate your point would have been the remedy, 
not presenting hypotheticals. The latter only leaves a reader with a 
feeling of being conned, even if only for a few seconds. It's not a 
practice that is enjoyed by most and only tends to lessen the impact 
that the author may have been able to make or perhaps could make in the 
future, whether it be the same venue or another.

Todd Swearingen

  

The point was that the focus of the magazine is on how to make money - 
not what is neccessarily the best for the patient.  I said point blank 
the headlines were made up.  They are not real stories - merely an 
imperfect imitation for the purpose of illustration.  I'm not a vet, and 
don't pretend to a credible source on what is best for animal care.  I 
am relating that I have noticed that vet's magazines seem to be very 
focussed on billing and how to make more money.

Appal Energy wrote:

 



Mike,

Making things up doesn't lend well to credibility.

In the immortal words of John Billings, I honestly believe it iz better 
tew know nothing than tew know what ain't so.

Todd Swearingen




   

  

Or just try reading a Veterinary Practice Magazine.  I have two friends 
who are vets.  Both are quite level-headed, but I do sometime browse 
through their professional magazines.  They have stories such as 
Increase you billing by 40% with the PetVaxx program and Ten tests 
your practice should do routinely  I'm making these up as I don't have 
the magazine in front of me but the gist is the same.

-Mike Weaver

 





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Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread John Hayes
Mike Weaver wrote:
 With regards to making up the stories, yes, I said clearly that they 
 we NOT TRUE in the original email.  I never presented them as 
 anything other than made up.  There is a long history of using made 
 up stories to illustrate a point.  The Daily Show.  The Onion. Modern
 Humorist.  Not Neccesarily The News and so on.  All use fabricated
 stories to make a point.

In fact, that tradition is much older and more literary than the sources 
you mention. Failure comprehend and understand satire on the part of the 
reader does not constitute fraud on the part of the writer.

 I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope
 will not be liable to the least objection.
 
 I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in
 London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a
 most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed,
 roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally
 serve in a fricassee or a ragout.
 
 I do therefore humbly offer it to public consideration that of the
 hundred and twenty thousand children already computed, twenty
 thousand may be reserved for breed, whereof only one-fourth part to
 be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle or
 swine; and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of
 marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore
 one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining
 hundred thousand may, at a year old, be offered in the sale to the
 persons of quality and fortune through the kingdom; always advising
 the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to
 render them plump and fat for a good table. A child will make two
 dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the family dines
 alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and
 seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the
 fourth day, especially in winter.

-from A Modest Proposal. Jonathan Swift. 1729.

jh

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Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Weaver
Hi John,

You think you're pretty Swift, but I think your Modest Proposal is a 
fraud!  I don't have two useless degrees in English for nothing!

Ha - thanks for the laugh! 

Oops - I just noticed the attribution at the bottom.  So much for 
showing off my erudition!

-Mike

John Hayes wrote:

Mike Weaver wrote:
  

With regards to making up the stories, yes, I said clearly that they 
we NOT TRUE in the original email.  I never presented them as 
anything other than made up.  There is a long history of using made 
up stories to illustrate a point.  The Daily Show.  The Onion. Modern
Humorist.  Not Neccesarily The News and so on.  All use fabricated
stories to make a point.
  


In fact, that tradition is much older and more literary than the sources 
you mention. Failure comprehend and understand satire on the part of the 
reader does not constitute fraud on the part of the writer.

  

I shall now therefore humbly propose my own thoughts, which I hope
will not be liable to the least objection.

I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in
London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a
most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed,
roasted, baked, or boiled; and I make no doubt that it will equally
serve in a fricassee or a ragout.

I do therefore humbly offer it to public consideration that of the
hundred and twenty thousand children already computed, twenty
thousand may be reserved for breed, whereof only one-fourth part to
be males; which is more than we allow to sheep, black cattle or
swine; and my reason is, that these children are seldom the fruits of
marriage, a circumstance not much regarded by our savages, therefore
one male will be sufficient to serve four females. That the remaining
hundred thousand may, at a year old, be offered in the sale to the
persons of quality and fortune through the kingdom; always advising
the mother to let them suck plentifully in the last month, so as to
render them plump and fat for a good table. A child will make two
dishes at an entertainment for friends; and when the family dines
alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and
seasoned with a little pepper or salt will be very good boiled on the
fourth day, especially in winter.



-from A Modest Proposal. Jonathan Swift. 1729.

jh

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Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread Appal Energy
Mike,

 First off, your second sentance makes no sense
 - entreated the reader to a defrauding practice
 I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

In the context of your mythical example, entreat is not so far out of reason.

Your intent was to entice the reader to believe something false, even if but 
for a moment. Just because you didn't beg or implore a readership outright by 
no stretch of the imagination means that you didn't entreat them to believe 
fiction. Ergo the statement was made.

entreat - (Obs)to write or speak of
entreat - to make an earnest appeal; plead

Perhaps invited the reader to believe that a defrauding practice was 
occurring would be more grammatically correct. But surely you're sharp enough 
as to have not missed the contextual point. 

  I never said that the articles or the vets were perpetuating fraud.

You don't think that padding a practice's income by pitching unnecessary 
services (excuse me, the words were Increase you billing by 40% with 
the PetVaxx program and Ten tests your practice should do routinely ) 
isn't fraudulent or at least borderline so? And you don't think that 
advocating or quasi-endorsing such a practice as being acceptable isn't 
borderline endorsement of actions that are at best on the innermost 
periphery of fraud?

Even if you didn't say it outright, you certainly eluded to fraud in 
context.

And, to put it back in context, your response was to Mary Lynn Schmidt's 
post where she stated:

 To answer your question about the rabies shot

Rabies shots, are required by law every three years in my state.

In some states, the Vet Lobbing efforts have managed to have that law 
changed to every year even though the shots have been proven to last 7 
years.

Your post followed the same thought patterns of needlessness, 
excessiveness and/or fraud as did her last sentence.

  I am sorry if your initial captivation in the first few sentance was
  crushed by the next few sentances.

Don't congratulate yourself so heartily.

  There is a long history of using made up stories to illustrate
  a point. The Daily Show. The Onion. Modern Humorist. Not
  Neccesarily The News and so on. All use fabricated stories to make a 
point.

How about using factual occurrences to illustrate a point? Should the 
list presume that the two veterinarian friends of yours don't exist 
either? What part of the story is made up and which part isn't? You 
weren't exactly clear on the ratio.

  If I had said these were real articles and then could not
  produce them, then that's something different, but it isn't really
  fraud. It would be misleading.

Now here is a bit that makes perfectly no sense. To say something is 
real, all the while knowing that it isn't, especially in the attempt to 
gain sympathy toward one perspective or another isn't really fraud? 
Only misleading?

Ehe..

fraud - 2) something said or done to deceive; trick
mislead - 2) to lead into error; deceive or delude
deceive - 1) to make (a person) believe what is not true; delude; mislead

Monetary or property gain isn't incumbent to fraud Mike. But it almost 
always is to defrauding others - which, by the way, you were eluding to 
with your fictitious headlines.

Todd Swearingen

(Coming up next? Grammarians parse words over what the meaning of is 
is. Stay tuned) 
 

First off, your second sentance makes no sense - entreated the reader 
to a defrauding practice I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
I never said that the articles or the vets were perpetuating fraud.  I 
made the point that vet magazines often focus on ways to increase a 
practice's billing.
This is not fraud.  This business management.  Fraud is when you 
intentinally deceive someone, generally for gain.  My email is not 
saying that.

With regards to making up the stories, yes, I said clearly that they we 
NOT TRUE in the original email.  I never presented them as anything 
other than
made up.  There is a long history of using made up stories to illustrate 
a point.  The Daily Show.  The Onion.  Modern Humorist.  Not Neccesarily 
The News and so on.  All use fabricated stories to make a point. 

I am sorry if your initial captivation in the first few sentance was 
crushed by the next few sentances.  The whole comment was only five 
sentances long.
I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill.  It was a comment 
on a thread.  Nothing more.  I made no charges of fraud, not did I 
present myself as anything
other than an unreliable narrator.  My email says point blank: I'm 
making these up  They are not true.  My second email also says I am not 
a credible authority.  I don't pretend to be.  It was a tossed-off 
comment.  If I had said these were real articles and then could not 
produce them, then that's something different, but it isn't really 
fraud.  It would be misleading. 

-Mike






Appal Energy wrote:

  

Mike,

I'm aware of how you staged your point. 

Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-07 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Todd wrote:
You don't think that padding a practice's income by pitching unnecessary
services . isn't fraudulent or at least borderline so? 


Uh.  Selling people unnecessary good and services is what the American
economy is built on.  I know we all want to change that, but right now
its the american way of life.  If you want to call it borderline
fraud, I'll second that, but GW isn't going to be happy with us



On 12/7/05, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mike,

  First off, your second sentance makes no sense
  - entreated the reader to a defrauding practice
  I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

 In the context of your mythical example, entreat is not so far out of 
 reason.

 Your intent was to entice the reader to believe something false, even if but 
 for a moment. Just because you didn't beg or implore a readership outright by 
 no stretch of the imagination means that you didn't entreat them to believe 
 fiction. Ergo the statement was made.

 entreat - (Obs)to write or speak of
 entreat - to make an earnest appeal; plead

 Perhaps invited the reader to believe that a defrauding practice was 
 occurring would be more grammatically correct. But surely you're sharp 
 enough as to have not missed the contextual point.

   I never said that the articles or the vets were perpetuating fraud.

 You don't think that padding a practice's income by pitching unnecessary
 services (excuse me, the words were Increase you billing by 40% with
 the PetVaxx program and Ten tests your practice should do routinely )
 isn't fraudulent or at least borderline so? And you don't think that
 advocating or quasi-endorsing such a practice as being acceptable isn't
 borderline endorsement of actions that are at best on the innermost
 periphery of fraud?

 Even if you didn't say it outright, you certainly eluded to fraud in
 context.

 And, to put it back in context, your response was to Mary Lynn Schmidt's
 post where she stated:

  To answer your question about the rabies shot
 
 Rabies shots, are required by law every three years in my state.
 
 In some states, the Vet Lobbing efforts have managed to have that law
 changed to every year even though the shots have been proven to last 7
 years.

 Your post followed the same thought patterns of needlessness,
 excessiveness and/or fraud as did her last sentence.

   I am sorry if your initial captivation in the first few sentance was
   crushed by the next few sentances.

 Don't congratulate yourself so heartily.

   There is a long history of using made up stories to illustrate
   a point. The Daily Show. The Onion. Modern Humorist. Not
   Neccesarily The News and so on. All use fabricated stories to make a
 point.

 How about using factual occurrences to illustrate a point? Should the
 list presume that the two veterinarian friends of yours don't exist
 either? What part of the story is made up and which part isn't? You
 weren't exactly clear on the ratio.

   If I had said these were real articles and then could not
   produce them, then that's something different, but it isn't really
   fraud. It would be misleading.

 Now here is a bit that makes perfectly no sense. To say something is
 real, all the while knowing that it isn't, especially in the attempt to
 gain sympathy toward one perspective or another isn't really fraud?
 Only misleading?

 Ehe..

 fraud - 2) something said or done to deceive; trick
 mislead - 2) to lead into error; deceive or delude
 deceive - 1) to make (a person) believe what is not true; delude; mislead

 Monetary or property gain isn't incumbent to fraud Mike. But it almost
 always is to defrauding others - which, by the way, you were eluding to
 with your fictitious headlines.

 Todd Swearingen

 (Coming up next? Grammarians parse words over what the meaning of is
 is. Stay tuned)


 First off, your second sentance makes no sense - entreated the reader
 to a defrauding practice I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
 I never said that the articles or the vets were perpetuating fraud.  I
 made the point that vet magazines often focus on ways to increase a
 practice's billing.
 This is not fraud.  This business management.  Fraud is when you
 intentinally deceive someone, generally for gain.  My email is not
 saying that.
 
 With regards to making up the stories, yes, I said clearly that they we
 NOT TRUE in the original email.  I never presented them as anything
 other than
 made up.  There is a long history of using made up stories to illustrate
 a point.  The Daily Show.  The Onion.  Modern Humorist.  Not Neccesarily
 The News and so on.  All use fabricated stories to make a point.
 
 I am sorry if your initial captivation in the first few sentance was
 crushed by the next few sentances.  The whole comment was only five
 sentances long.
 I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill.  It was a comment
 on a thread.  Nothing more.  I made no charges of fraud, not did I
 present myself as anything
 

[Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-06 Thread bob allen
Marylynn Schmidt wrote:
 To answer your question about the rabies shots.
 
 Rabies shots, are required by law every three years in my state.
 
 In some states, the Vet Lobbing efforts have managed to have that law 
 changed to every year even though the shots have been proven to last 7 
 years.

if they last 7 years does that means that they work? That is, reduce the risk 
of transmission of a 
lethal disease?


 
 I need to have a current certificate to get a dog licenses issued by my 
 town.
 
 .. I cheat .. and I lay very low in tall grass.

so you don't vaccinate your animals as required by law?  And by so doing you 
don't feel that you are 
putting your animals, and other animals including people at risk of a lethal 
disease? transmission 
of which can be blocked by vaccinations.
 
 One of my dogs has seizures that I treat holistically that I can trace 
 directly to her early rabies shots.

 These seizures are now fairly mild and infrequent and I have no intention of 
 harming her any more.
 
 One file I was looking for .. and haven't found yet .. is the actual law 
 suit filed by a Dr. Rogers, a Texas Veterinarian who filed a law suit 
 against all other Texas Veterinarians for Theft by Fraud (and other charges) 
 .. and listed each and every vaccine given and why, with full and accurate 
 information, an owner would not have selected to have it administer to their 
 pet ..

anybody can sue anybody else for any reason under the sun.  Maybe you didn't 
find anything because 
the suit was thrown out of court.

 
 .. but I believe you would be able to find it if you do a google search for 
 Dr. Rogers in Texas - Law Suit.

here you are a letter ready to go:

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/dr.rogers.htm


seems he does vaccinations himself.

In addition to our many cutting-edge services, we offer the following:

 * Low Cost Vaccinations...

http://www.critterfixer.com/

 
 Mary Lynn
 Mary Lynn Schmidt
 ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART
 TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained 
 Minister .
 Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . 
 Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel
 The Animal Connection Healing Modalities
 http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/
 
 
 
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Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-06 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Yes
No
Limited vaccinations.

Mary Lynn
Mary Lynn Schmidt
ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART
TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained 
Minister .
Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . 
Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel
The Animal Connection Healing Modalities
http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/





From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 17:25:01 -0600

Marylynn Schmidt wrote:
  To answer your question about the rabies shots.
 
  Rabies shots, are required by law every three years in my state.
 
  In some states, the Vet Lobbing efforts have managed to have that law
  changed to every year even though the shots have been proven to last 7
  years.

if they last 7 years does that means that they work? That is, reduce the 
risk of transmission of a
lethal disease?


 
  I need to have a current certificate to get a dog licenses issued by my
  town.
 
  .. I cheat .. and I lay very low in tall grass.

so you don't vaccinate your animals as required by law?  And by so doing 
you don't feel that you are
putting your animals, and other animals including people at risk of a 
lethal disease? transmission
of which can be blocked by vaccinations.
 
  One of my dogs has seizures that I treat holistically that I can trace
  directly to her early rabies shots.

  These seizures are now fairly mild and infrequent and I have no 
intention of
  harming her any more.
 
  One file I was looking for .. and haven't found yet .. is the actual law
  suit filed by a Dr. Rogers, a Texas Veterinarian who filed a law suit
  against all other Texas Veterinarians for Theft by Fraud (and other 
charges)
  .. and listed each and every vaccine given and why, with full and 
accurate
  information, an owner would not have selected to have it administer to 
their
  pet ..

anybody can sue anybody else for any reason under the sun.  Maybe you 
didn't find anything because
the suit was thrown out of court.

 
  .. but I believe you would be able to find it if you do a google search 
for
  Dr. Rogers in Texas - Law Suit.

here you are a letter ready to go:

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/dr.rogers.htm


seems he does vaccinations himself.

In addition to our many cutting-edge services, we offer the following:

  * Low Cost Vaccinations...

http://www.critterfixer.com/

 
  Mary Lynn
  Mary Lynn Schmidt
  ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART
  TTouch . Animal Behavior Modification . Behavior Problems . Ordained
  Minister .
  Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Radionics . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy 
.
  Herbs. . Polarity . Reiki . Spiritual Travel
  The Animal Connection Healing Modalities
  http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/
 
 
 
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Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
Or just try reading a Veterinary Practice Magazine.  I have two friends 
who are vets.  Both are quite level-headed, but I do sometime browse 
through their professional magazines.  They have stories such as 
Increase you billing by 40% with the PetVaxx program and Ten tests 
your practice should do routinely  I'm making these up as I don't have 
the magazine in front of me but the gist is the same.

-Mike Weaver

bob allen wrote:

Marylynn Schmidt wrote:
  

To answer your question about the rabies shots.

Rabies shots, are required by law every three years in my state.

In some states, the Vet Lobbing efforts have managed to have that law 
changed to every year even though the shots have been proven to last 7 
years.



if they last 7 years does that means that they work? That is, reduce the risk 
of transmission of a 
lethal disease?


  

I need to have a current certificate to get a dog licenses issued by my 
town.

.. I cheat .. and I lay very low in tall grass.



so you don't vaccinate your animals as required by law?  And by so doing you 
don't feel that you are 
putting your animals, and other animals including people at risk of a lethal 
disease? transmission 
of which can be blocked by vaccinations.
  

One of my dogs has seizures that I treat holistically that I can trace 
directly to her early rabies shots.



  

These seizures are now fairly mild and infrequent and I have no intention of 
harming her any more.

One file I was looking for .. and haven't found yet .. is the actual law 
suit filed by a Dr. Rogers, a Texas Veterinarian who filed a law suit 
against all other Texas Veterinarians for Theft by Fraud (and other charges) 
.. and listed each and every vaccine given and why, with full and accurate 
information, an owner would not have selected to have it administer to their 
pet ..



anybody can sue anybody else for any reason under the sun.  Maybe you didn't 
find anything because 
the suit was thrown out of court.

  

.. but I believe you would be able to find it if you do a google search for 
Dr. Rogers in Texas - Law Suit.



here you are a letter ready to go:

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/dr.rogers.htm


seems he does vaccinations himself.

In addition to our many cutting-edge services, we offer the following:

 * Low Cost Vaccinations...

http://www.critterfixer.com/

  

Mary Lynn
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Re: [Biofuel] concerning rabies vaccinations

2005-12-06 Thread Mike Weaver
The point was that the focus of the magazine is on how to make money - 
not what is neccessarily the best for the patient.  I said point blank 
the headlines were made up.  They are not real stories - merely an 
imperfect imitation for the purpose of illustration.  I'm not a vet, and 
don't pretend to a credible source on what is best for animal care.  I 
am relating that I have noticed that vet's magazines seem to be very 
focussed on billing and how to make more money.

Appal Energy wrote:

Mike,

Making things up doesn't lend well to credibility.

In the immortal words of John Billings, I honestly believe it iz better 
tew know nothing than tew know what ain't so.

Todd Swearingen
 

  

Or just try reading a Veterinary Practice Magazine.  I have two friends 
who are vets.  Both are quite level-headed, but I do sometime browse 
through their professional magazines.  They have stories such as 
Increase you billing by 40% with the PetVaxx program and Ten tests 
your practice should do routinely  I'm making these up as I don't have 
the magazine in front of me but the gist is the same.

-Mike Weaver

 



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