Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater?
I would really appreciate a copy of the ppt. Just bought my diesel today to experiment upon. Will get it home next Monday. Then will start piping. Thanks Jim Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michele Stephenson wrote: i was sent a ppt of how this guy in Eugene, OR converted his vw caddy to wvo. he dropped the tank and cut a plate out so he could place an oil cooler in there, ran the lines back to the radiator lines to heat the oil. the h2o lines and the fuel line all inside and insulated 3 tubing to the 3 line solinoid and oil filter. his diesel tank was just a 3 or 5 gallon for priming and shutting down. if anyone wants this ppt (2megs) i would be happy to send. it seems simple enough for a novice like me. Peace, michele - Original Message - *From:* Joe Street mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Friday, December 23, 2005 12:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater? Hi Kenji; Yes it was a crappy tire ad I saw. If you want to build a inline heater it is not that difficult. I can work with you on it. I was considering doing it on the short metal lines that run from the injector pump to each injector. This would help when I decide to run WVO. We just basically need to determine how many watts are needed for the temperature rise required and considering the available voltage pick the appropriate size wire and number of turns. Weatherproofing the affair is the biggest challenge. We use a lot of salt here in the winter. For you out in lotus land it is not much of a concern. I'm not sure when I am coming out. Basically my buddy who is in Ucluelet was supposed to meet me in Mexico in January and the bum backed out at the last second so he offered to buy me a ticket to come see him on the next seat sale. Who can argue with an offer like that? I have a feathercraft folding kayak that I'll be bringing out so if you are into that we can do some paddling when I come out. It will probably be in the spring some time. I like nothing better than paddling with a local who knows the tidal currents. If not well just hang out and talk biofuel over a pint or something like that :) I'll tell you about my dreams to live sustainably up near Coal Harbour. Best regards. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all on this list. My keeper is letting me out of th cage nowyippee Joe Kenji James Fuse wrote: Crappy Canadian Tire has those windshield wash fluid heaters on sale right now. Not much info on the box, but they only seem to heat the fluid for a few seconds. I don't know if this could be bypassed, but I'd be worried the plastic would melt if you figured out how to keep it on all the time. On the other hand, I thought about splitting the fuel line, so that some goes to this heater and gets heated, and the rest keeps going. This would raise the temp a little, but I don't know if it would be worth the $49.94 CAD. Kenji PS. WHen are you on Vancouver Island, Joe? On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Joe Street wrote: I saw an advert on the tube last night for a gadget that is supposed to heat windshield washer fluid as it flows to the spray nozzles on your car. I immediately thought about the potential as a fuel heater. It hooks up to the electrical system and I guess turns on with the washer pump. I have been considering such an idea along the lines of building something by wrapping a peice of tubing with the right amount of nichrome wire for instantaneous heating. If this gadget is suitable it would save a lot of work. Perhaps the tube diameter is too small (I expect ) but you never know. Anybody ever seen one of these things? Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from journeytoforever.org claiming to be* http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from journeytoforever.org claiming to be* http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list
Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater?
There are also a lot of sites on the web - just google SVO jim Minor wrote: I would really appreciate a copy of the ppt. Just bought my diesel today to experiment upon. Will get it home next Monday. Then will start piping. Thanks Jim Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michele Stephenson wrote: i was sent a ppt of how this guy in Eugene, OR converted his vw caddy to wvo. he dropped the tank and cut a plate out so he could place an oil cooler in there, ran the lines back to the radiator lines to heat the oil. the h2o lines and the fuel line all inside and insulated 3 tubing to the 3 line solinoid and oil filter. his diesel tank was just a 3 or 5 gallon for priming and shutting down. if anyone wants this ppt (2megs) i would be happy to send. it seems simple enough for a novice like me. Peace, michele - Original Message - *From:* Joe Street mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Friday, December 23, 2005 12:39 PM *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater? Hi Kenji; Yes it was a crappy tire ad I saw. If you want to build a inline heater it is not that difficult. I can work with you on it. I was considering doing it on the short metal lines that run from the injector pump to each injector. This would help when I decide to run WVO. We just basically need to determine how many watts are needed for the temperature rise required and considering the available voltage pick the appropriate size wire and number of turns. Weatherproofing the affair is the biggest challenge. We use a lot of salt here in the winter. For you out in lotus land it is not much of a concern. I'm not sure when I am coming out. Basically my buddy who is in Ucluelet was supposed to meet me in Mexico in January and the bum backed out at the last second so he offered to buy me a ticket to come see him on the next seat sale. Who can argue with an offer like that? I have a feathercraft folding kayak that I'll be bringing out so if you are into that we can do some paddling when I come out. It will probably be in the spring some time. I like nothing better than paddling with a local who knows the tidal currents. If not well just hang out and talk biofuel over a pint or something like that :) I'll tell you about my dreams to live sustainably up near Coal Harbour. Best regards. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all on this list. My keeper is letting me out of th cage nowyippee Joe Kenji James Fuse wrote: Crappy Canadian Tire has those windshield wash fluid heaters on sale right now. Not much info on the box, but they only seem to heat the fluid for a few seconds. I don't know if this could be bypassed, but I'd be worried the plastic would melt if you figured out how to keep it on all the time. On the other hand, I thought about splitting the fuel line, so that some goes to this heater and gets heated, and the rest keeps going. This would raise the temp a little, but I don't know if it would be worth the $49.94 CAD. Kenji PS. WHen are you on Vancouver Island, Joe? On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Joe Street wrote: I saw an advert on the tube last night for a gadget that is supposed to heat windshield washer fluid as it flows to the spray nozzles on your car. I immediately thought about the potential as a fuel heater. It hooks up to the electrical system and I guess turns on with the washer pump. I have been considering such an idea along the lines of building something by wrapping a peice of tubing with the right amount of nichrome wire for instantaneous heating. If this gadget is suitable it would save a lot of work. Perhaps the tube diameter is too small (I expect ) but you never know. Anybody ever seen one of these things? Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from journeytoforever.org claiming to be* http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: *MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from journeytoforever.org claiming to be* http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater?
There are also a lot of sites on the web - just google SVO Eg.: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html Straight vegetable oil as diesel fuel Best Keith jim Minor wrote: I would really appreciate a copy of the ppt. Just bought my diesel today to experiment upon. Will get it home next Monday. Then will start piping. Thanks Jim Minor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michele Stephenson wrote: i was sent a ppt of how this guy in Eugene, OR converted his vw caddy to wvo. he dropped the tank and cut a plate out so he could place an oil cooler in there, ran the lines back to the radiator lines to heat the oil. the h2o lines and the fuel line all inside and insulated 3 tubing to the 3 line solinoid and oil filter. his diesel tank was just a 3 or 5 gallon for priming and shutting down. if anyone wants this ppt (2megs) i would be happy to send. it seems simple enough for a novice like me. Peace, michele snip ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater?
i was sent a ppt of how this guy in Eugene, ORconverted his vw caddy to wvo. he dropped the tank and cut a plate out so he could place an oil cooler in there, ran the lines back to the radiator lines to heat the oil. the h2o lines and the fuel line all inside and insulated 3" tubing to the 3 line solinoid and oil filter. his diesel tank was just a 3 or 5 gallon for priming and shutting down. if anyone wants this ppt (2megs) i would be happy to send. it seems simple enough for a novice like me. Peace, michele - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater? Hi Kenji;Yes it was a crappy tire ad I saw. If you want to build a inline heater it is not that difficult. I can work with you on it. I was considering doing it on the short metal lines that run from the injector pump to each injector. This would help when I decide to run WVO. We just basically need to determine how many watts are needed for the temperature rise required and considering the available voltage pick the appropriate size wire and number of turns. Weatherproofing the affair is the biggest challenge. We use a lot of salt here in the winter. For you out in lotus land it is not much of a concern.I'm not sure when I am coming out. Basically my buddy who is in Ucluelet was supposed to meet me in Mexico in January and the bum backed out at the last second so he offered to buy me a ticket to come see him on the next seat sale. Who can argue with an offer like that? I have a feathercraft folding kayak that I'll be bringing out so if you are into that we can do some paddling when I come out. It will probably be in the spring some time. I like nothing better than paddling with a local who knows the tidal currents. If not well just hang out and talk biofuel over a pint or something like that :) I'll tell you about my dreams to live sustainably up near Coal Harbour. Best regards. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all on this list.My keeper is letting me out of th cage nowyippeeJoeKenji James Fuse wrote: Crappy Canadian Tire has those windshield wash fluid heaters on sale right now. Not much info on the box, but they only seem to heat the fluid for a few seconds. I don't know if this could be bypassed, but I'd be worried the plastic would melt if you figured out how to keep it on all the time. On the other hand, I thought about splitting the fuel line, so that some goes to this heater and gets heated, and the rest keeps going. This would raise the temp a little, but I don't know if it would be worth the $49.94 CAD. Kenji PS. WHen are you on Vancouver Island, Joe? On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Joe Street wrote: I saw an advert on the tube last night for a gadget that is supposed to heat windshield washer fluid as it flows to the spray nozzles on your car. I immediately thought about the potential as a fuel heater. It hooks up to the electrical system and I guess turns on with the washer pump. I have been considering such an idea along the lines of building something by wrapping a peice of tubing with the right amount of nichrome wire for instantaneous heating. If this gadget is suitable it would save a lot of work. Perhaps the tube diameter is too small (I expect ) but you never know. Anybody ever seen one of these things? Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "journeytoforever.org" claiming to be http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "journeytoforever.org" claiming to be http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/bio
Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater?
Yup. This heating setup is the standard design most WVO vehicals I've seen use. I've done that to a school bus and a mercedes car. Unfortuneatly, I don't have good pictures or diagrams of it, but I am taking better pictures of the two vehicals I'm in the process of converting now, and will have them up on a website eventually. On 12/27/05, Michele Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i was sent a ppt of how this guy in Eugene, OR converted his vw caddy to wvo. he dropped the tank and cut a plate out so he could place an oil cooler in there, ran the lines back to the radiator lines to heat the oil. the h2o lines and the fuel line all inside and insulated 3 tubing to the 3 line solinoid and oil filter. his diesel tank was just a 3 or 5 gallon for priming and shutting down. if anyone wants this ppt (2megs) i would be happy to send. it seems simple enough for a novice like me. Peace, michele - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater? Hi Kenji; Yes it was a crappy tire ad I saw. If you want to build a inline heater it is not that difficult. I can work with you on it. I was considering doing it on the short metal lines that run from the injector pump to each injector. This would help when I decide to run WVO. We just basically need to determine how many watts are needed for the temperature rise required and considering the available voltage pick the appropriate size wire and number of turns. Weatherproofing the affair is the biggest challenge. We use a lot of salt here in the winter. For you out in lotus land it is not much of a concern. I'm not sure when I am coming out. Basically my buddy who is in Ucluelet was supposed to meet me in Mexico in January and the bum backed out at the last second so he offered to buy me a ticket to come see him on the next seat sale. Who can argue with an offer like that? I have a feathercraft folding kayak that I'll be bringing out so if you are into that we can do some paddling when I come out. It will probably be in the spring some time. I like nothing better than paddling with a local who knows the tidal currents. If not well just hang out and talk biofuel over a pint or something like that :) I'll tell you about my dreams to live sustainably up near Coal Harbour. Best regards. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all on this list. My keeper is letting me out of th cage nowyippee Joe Kenji James Fuse wrote: Crappy Canadian Tire has those windshield wash fluid heaters on sale right now. Not much info on the box, but they only seem to heat the fluid for a few seconds. I don't know if this could be bypassed, but I'd be worried the plastic would melt if you figured out how to keep it on all the time. On the other hand, I thought about splitting the fuel line, so that some goes to this heater and gets heated, and the rest keeps going. This would raise the temp a little, but I don't know if it would be worth the $49.94 CAD. Kenji PS. WHen are you on Vancouver Island, Joe? On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Joe Street wrote: I saw an advert on the tube last night for a gadget that is supposed to heat windshield washer fluid as it flows to the spray nozzles on your car. I immediately thought about the potential as a fuel heater. It hooks up to the electrical system and I guess turns on with the washer pump. I have been considering such an idea along the lines of building something by wrapping a peice of tubing with the right amount of nichrome wire for instantaneous heating. If this gadget is suitable it would save a lot of work. Perhaps the tube diameter is too small (I expect ) but you never know. Anybody ever seen one of these things? Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from journeytoforever.org claiming to be http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from journeytoforever.org claiming to be http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman
[Biofuel] inline fuel heater?
I saw an advert on the tube last night for a gadget that is supposed to heat windshield washer fluid as it flows to the spray nozzles on your car. I immediately thought about the potential as a fuel heater. It hooks up to the electrical system and I guess turns on with the washer pump. I have been considering such an idea along the lines of building something by wrapping a peice of tubing with the right amount of nichrome wire for instantaneous heating. If this gadget is suitable it would save a lot of work. Perhaps the tube diameter is too small (I expect ) but you never know. Anybody ever seen one of these things? Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater?
Crappy Canadian Tire has those windshield wash fluid heaters on sale right now. Not much info on the box, but they only seem to heat the fluid for a few seconds. I don't know if this could be bypassed, but I'd be worried the plastic would melt if you figured out how to keep it on all the time. On the other hand, I thought about splitting the fuel line, so that some goes to this heater and gets heated, and the rest keeps going. This would raise the temp a little, but I don't know if it would be worth the $49.94 CAD. Kenji PS. WHen are you on Vancouver Island, Joe? On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Joe Street wrote: I saw an advert on the tube last night for a gadget that is supposed to heat windshield washer fluid as it flows to the spray nozzles on your car. I immediately thought about the potential as a fuel heater. It hooks up to the electrical system and I guess turns on with the washer pump. I have been considering such an idea along the lines of building something by wrapping a peice of tubing with the right amount of nichrome wire for instantaneous heating. If this gadget is suitable it would save a lot of work. Perhaps the tube diameter is too small (I expect ) but you never know. Anybody ever seen one of these things? Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater?
Hi Kenji; Yes it was a crappy tire ad I saw. If you want to build a inline heater it is not that difficult. I can work with you on it. I was considering doing it on the short metal lines that run from the injector pump to each injector. This would help when I decide to run WVO. We just basically need to determine how many watts are needed for the temperature rise required and considering the available voltage pick the appropriate size wire and number of turns. Weatherproofing the affair is the biggest challenge. We use a lot of salt here in the winter. For you out in lotus land it is not much of a concern. I'm not sure when I am coming out. Basically my buddy who is in Ucluelet was supposed to meet me in Mexico in January and the bum backed out at the last second so he offered to buy me a ticket to come see him on the next seat sale. Who can argue with an offer like that? I have a feathercraft folding kayak that I'll be bringing out so if you are into that we can do some paddling when I come out. It will probably be in the spring some time. I like nothing better than paddling with a local who knows the tidal currents. If not well just hang out and talk biofuel over a pint or something like that :) I'll tell you about my dreams to live sustainably up near Coal Harbour. Best regards. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all on this list. My keeper is letting me out of th cage nowyippee Joe Kenji James Fuse wrote: Crappy Canadian Tire has those windshield wash fluid heaters on sale right now. Not much info on the box, but they only seem to heat the fluid for a few seconds. I don't know if this could be bypassed, but I'd be worried the plastic would melt if you figured out how to keep it on all the time. On the other hand, I thought about splitting the fuel line, so that some goes to this heater and gets heated, and the rest keeps going. This would raise the temp a little, but I don't know if it would be worth the $49.94 CAD. Kenji PS. WHen are you on Vancouver Island, Joe? On Fri, 23 Dec 2005, Joe Street wrote: I saw an advert on the tube last night for a gadget that is supposed to heat windshield washer fluid as it flows to the spray nozzles on your car. I immediately thought about the potential as a fuel heater. It hooks up to the electrical system and I guess turns on with the washer pump. I have been considering such an idea along the lines of building something by wrapping a peice of tubing with the right amount of nichrome wire for instantaneous heating. If this gadget is suitable it would save a lot of work. Perhaps the tube diameter is too small (I expect ) but you never know. Anybody ever seen one of these things? Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] inline fuel heater?
Joe Street wrote: Anybody ever seen one of these things? They're available at Canadian Tire. Why not go and have a look at them? For me, it seems like a great way to crack a windshield. Besides, if the washer fluid between the device and the emitters gets frozen solid (as it sometimes does around here), what good would it do to push hot fluid behind it? As for a WVO heater, what's wrong with Veggie Therm? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
