Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-12-22 Thread Legal Eagle


Of course could be the poster was just ignorant of the situation and 
should've used the grey matter before leaping off the cliff, but some poeple 
have the discernment of a toad.

Luc
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Buck

Please take no notice of this person's sneers, and please accept my 
apologies for this. The administration has written to him about it 
offlist. Please don't be discouraged by it, go on posting as before.


To all: the background to this is here, if you didn't see it at the time:

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38305/
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38374/
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38484/
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38415/

It's amazing that someone who could write a message like this next could 
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http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/22474/
Date: 2003-03-16
From: Energy Recovery
Subject: Re: [biofuel] War, Bush, and all the other Middle East stuff

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LLOoottt yyyor ppooiinnn

Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:dary hannnah, drivess a 
78? chevvy el caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,,
that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same 
as

6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm application, it had a
shoc coup0ler insid that waass incompatibleee with diesel 
fuel,

it was aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of silver dollar wit sixx
holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this coupllser , it turneddd
blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like blaack perpper,,trashed
the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to drive on the pins, also
caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose bout the designnn, and
built replacemeanat based on this with stainless steel shock,,, coupler,
buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent into the creek,,
theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that willl drop u in your
tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u want to find out how 
well

wash water in the crk might work, post two line ad in your local
newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss will let you knoww how
wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of i this way the
discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be neutra,, want to
drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u wouldnt want to drink,
somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so then u or someone
drinks it anyawya


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Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-12-21 Thread Energy Recovery

LLOoottt yyyor ppooiinnn

Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvy 
el caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,, 
that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as 
6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm application, it had a 
shoc coup0ler insid that waass incompatibleee with diesel fuel, 
it was aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of silver dollar wit sixx 
holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this coupllser , it turneddd 
blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like blaack perpper,,trashed 
the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to drive on the pins, also 
caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose bout the designnn, and 
built replacemeanat based on this with stainless steel shock,,, coupler, 
buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent into the creek,, 
theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that willl drop u in your 
tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u want to find out how well 
wash water in the crk might work, post two line ad in your local 
newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss will let you knoww how 
wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of i this way the 
discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be neutra,, want to 
drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u wouldnt want to drink, 
somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so then u or someone 
drinks it anyawya

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Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-12-21 Thread Keith Addison



Please take no notice of this person's sneers, and please accept my 
apologies for this. The administration has written to him about it 
offlist. Please don't be discouraged by it, go on posting as before.


To all: the background to this is here, if you didn't see it at the time:

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38305/
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38374/
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38484/
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38415/

It's amazing that someone who could write a message like this next 
could have the gall to criticise someone else's spelling:

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/22474/
Date: 2003-03-16
From: Energy Recovery
Subject: Re: [biofuel] War, Bush, and all the other Middle East stuff

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
KYOTO Pref., Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/
Biofuel list owner




LLOoottt yyyor ppooiinnn

Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:dary hannnah, 
drivess a 78? chevvy el caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,,

that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as
6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm application, it had a
shoc coup0ler insid that waass incompatibleee with diesel fuel,
it was aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of silver dollar wit sixx
holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this coupllser , it turneddd
blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like blaack perpper,,trashed
the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to drive on the pins, also
caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose bout the designnn, and
built replacemeanat based on this with stainless steel shock,,, coupler,
buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent into the creek,,
theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that willl drop u in your
tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u want to find out how well
wash water in the crk might work, post two line ad in your local
newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss will let you knoww how
wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of i this way the
discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be neutra,, want to
drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u wouldnt want to drink,
somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so then u or someone
drinks it anyawya


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Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-12-21 Thread Appal Energy


Thanks Buck.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 11:33 PM
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Buck

Please take no notice of this person's sneers, and please accept my 
apologies for this. The administration has written to him about it 
offlist. Please don't be discouraged by it, go on posting as before.


To all: the background to this is here, if you didn't see it at the time:

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38305/
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38374/
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38484/
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/38415/

It's amazing that someone who could write a message like this next could 
have the gall to criticise someone else's spelling:

http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/22474/
Date: 2003-03-16
From: Energy Recovery
Subject: Re: [biofuel] War, Bush, and all the other Middle East stuff

Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
KYOTO Pref., Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/
Biofuel list owner




LLOoottt yyyor ppooiinnn

Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:dary hannnah, drivess a 
78? chevvy el caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,,
that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same 
as

6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm application, it had a
shoc coup0ler insid that waass incompatibleee with diesel 
fuel,

it was aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of silver dollar wit sixx
holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this coupllser , it turneddd
blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like blaack perpper,,trashed
the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to drive on the pins, also
caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose bout the designnn, and
built replacemeanat based on this with stainless steel shock,,, coupler,
buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent into the creek,,
theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that willl drop u in your
tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u want to find out how 
well

wash water in the crk might work, post two line ad in your local
newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss will let you knoww how
wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of i this way the
discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be neutra,, want to
drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u wouldnt want to drink,
somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so then u or someone
drinks it anyawya


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Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-12-03 Thread Mats Jansson

Is this shock coupler the only part that needs to bee replaced? In that
case it would be best to do before it brokes... Is this a problen when
driving on processed biofuel too or just SVO? Do anyone knows where to by
the proper parts?

Mats Jansson, Sweden

 FrŒn: Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Svara till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Datum: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 09:54:16 -0700
 Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 €mne: Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2
 
 no it is not gov, ,, purpoe is to soften coupling between engiane and
 internanals,, the old ones were rubberlikeake plastic disc like a disc pump
 coupling,  if u have pepper liake stuff, u must rebauldd the pump, just
 to ge the trash out, the grit getsss into the finer passesges, and pump
 must be toanr down completell to change thae shock coupler,, it only
 cost,, used to cost couple of dollarsss but the labor cost tow, three
 hundred at injections shop prices,but even if u could get it in, u know,
 kne that u are building in known failure unless u could get the
 stanadyne part and the injectiaon shops are not casual about seelling just
 that piece, they want the pump job,. rebuildidng hte snanadyne pump i
 somesting best not tried by the average mechanic the tool equaity
 requaired is not worth the effort given the praobable chance of not getting
 it right, give it to reputable pump shop and have it rebuilt to snaandyne
 specs with the corredct stainless sprung coupler, in would even go so far as
 to question the shop as to whetaher the stainless part is used, not the
 rubeerrr , buck,
 Is this shock coupler the same thing as the governor?
 When I had to have a pump rebuilt that's what they
 seemed to call it, and from memory their description
 of it was very similiar to what you're calling the
 shock coupler. I opened up the top of it before taking
 it in and found black bits all over, as I was told I
 would if it was bad. Interesting to see the inside,
 but I didn't dare tear into it without either the
 knowledge or tools.
 
 Thanks!
 Erik
 --- Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvyel
 caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,,
 that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa
 master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as
 6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm
 application, it had a
 shoc coup0ler insid that waass
 incompatibleee with diesel fuel,
 it was  aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of
 silver dollar wit sixx
 holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this
 coupllser , it turneddd
 blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like
 blaack perpper,,trashed
 the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to
 drive on the pins, also
 caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose
 bout the designnn, and
 built replacemeanat based on this with stainless
 steel shock,,, coupler,
 buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent
 into the creek,,
 theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that
 willl drop u in your
 tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u
 want to find out how well
 wash water in the crk might work, post two line
 ad in your local
 newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss
 will let you knoww how
 wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of
 i this way the
 discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be
 neutra,, want to
 drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u
 wouldnt want to drink,
 somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so
 then u or someone
 drinks it anyawya
 
 

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Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-12-03 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc


fuel, not on biodiesel or SVO, wasn't he?

In any case, SVO is not nearly as good a solvent as biodiesel.  The 
issue with high percentage blends of biodiesel and B100 is that it's a 
solvent that attacks the pump seals. SVO does not do that, not to any 
great extent at least. The issue with SVO, on the other hand is 
viscosity. Heating it to 70C (roughly) gets it into the range that it 
can be tolerated by pumps - some tolerate it better than others. Inline 
pumps do best, but many rotary pumps do ok as well. There are lots of 
Stanadyne pumps using heated vegoil.


If your pump has had to be rebuilt a few times, on diesel, this is 
because it was subjected to low sulphur diesel, most likely. That fuel 
does not provide adequate lubricity. Interestingly, only 0.1% addition 
of a Canola (rapeseed) derived lubricity additive would have likely 
saved the pump!


If you use cold pressed rapeseed oil, heated, two tank system, I think 
you've have very good chances of success with SVO.


There is for example a John Deere tractor (in Sweden) with a Roosa pump 
- over 600 hours I believe, on rapeseed SVO.




Regards,

Edward Beggs B.E.S. M.Sc.
 Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
http://www.biofuels.ca



On Dec 3, 2004, at 3:00 AM, Mats Jansson wrote:

Is this shock coupler the only part that needs to bee replaced? In 
that

case it would be best to do before it brokes... Is this a problen when
driving on processed biofuel too or just SVO? Do anyone knows where to 
by

the proper parts?

Mats Jansson, Sweden


FrŒn: Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Svara till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Datum: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 09:54:16 -0700
Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
€mne: Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

no it is not gov, ,, purpoe is to soften coupling between engiane 
and
internanals,, the old ones were rubberlikeake plastic disc like a 
disc pump
coupling,  if u have pepper liake stuff, u must rebauldd the 
pump, just
to ge the trash out, the grit getsss into the finer passesges, 
and pump
must be toanr down completell to change thae shock coupler,, it 
only

cost,, used to cost couple of dollarsss but the labor cost tow, three
hundred at injections shop prices,but even if u could get it in, u 
know,

kne that u are building in known failure unless u could get the
stanadyne part and the injectiaon shops are not casual about seelling 
just
that piece, they want the pump job,. rebuildidng hte snanadyne pump 
i

somesting best not tried by the average mechanic the tool equaity
requaired is not worth the effort given the praobable chance of not 
getting
it right, give it to reputable pump shop and have it rebuilt to 
snaandyne
specs with the corredct stainless sprung coupler, in would even go so 
far as
to question the shop as to whetaher the stainless part is used, not 
the

rubeerrr , buck,

Is this shock coupler the same thing as the governor?
When I had to have a pump rebuilt that's what they
seemed to call it, and from memory their description
of it was very similiar to what you're calling the
shock coupler. I opened up the top of it before taking
it in and found black bits all over, as I was told I
would if it was bad. Interesting to see the inside,
but I didn't dare tear into it without either the
knowledge or tools.

Thanks!
Erik
--- Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvyel
caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,,
that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa
master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as
6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm
application, it had a
shoc coup0ler insid that waass
incompatibleee with diesel fuel,
it was  aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of
silver dollar wit sixx
holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this
coupllser , it turneddd
blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like
blaack perpper,,trashed
the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to
drive on the pins, also
caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose
bout the designnn, and
built replacemeanat based on this with stainless
steel shock,,, coupler,
buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent
into the creek,,
theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that
willl drop u in your
tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u
want to find out how well
wash water in the crk might work, post two line
ad in your local
newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss
will let you knoww how
wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of
i this way the
discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be
neutra,, want to
drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u
wouldnt want to drink,
somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so
then u or someone
drinks it anyawya




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Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-12-03 Thread Buck Williams


befroe failurea, the replacementr part is made fraom stainless stee and 
with folded sheet accordion leaf staainless springs laid r4adially,buck





Is this shock coupler the only part that needs to bee replaced? In that
case it would be best to do before it brokes... Is this a problen when
driving on processed biofuel too or just SVO? Do anyone knows where to by
the proper parts?

Mats Jansson, Sweden

 FrŒn: Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Svara till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Datum: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 09:54:16 -0700
 Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 €mne: Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

 no it is not gov, ,, purpoe is to soften coupling between engiane 
and
 internanals,, the old ones were rubberlikeake plastic disc like a disc 
pump
 coupling,  if u have pepper liake stuff, u must rebauldd the pump, 
just
 to ge the trash out, the grit getsss into the finer passesges, and 
pump

 must be toanr down completell to change thae shock coupler,, it only
 cost,, used to cost couple of dollarsss but the labor cost tow, three
 hundred at injections shop prices,but even if u could get it in, u know,
 kne that u are building in known failure unless u could get the
 stanadyne part and the injectiaon shops are not casual about seelling 
just
 that piece, they want the pump job,. rebuildidng hte snanadyne pump 
i

 somesting best not tried by the average mechanic the tool equaity
 requaired is not worth the effort given the praobable chance of not 
getting
 it right, give it to reputable pump shop and have it rebuilt to 
snaandyne
 specs with the corredct stainless sprung coupler, in would even go so 
far as

 to question the shop as to whetaher the stainless part is used, not the
 rubeerrr , buck,
 Is this shock coupler the same thing as the governor?
 When I had to have a pump rebuilt that's what they
 seemed to call it, and from memory their description
 of it was very similiar to what you're calling the
 shock coupler. I opened up the top of it before taking
 it in and found black bits all over, as I was told I
 would if it was bad. Interesting to see the inside,
 but I didn't dare tear into it without either the
 knowledge or tools.

 Thanks!
 Erik
 --- Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvyel
 caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,,
 that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa
 master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as
 6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm
 application, it had a
 shoc coup0ler insid that waass
 incompatibleee with diesel fuel,
 it was  aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of
 silver dollar wit sixx
 holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this
 coupllser , it turneddd
 blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like
 blaack perpper,,trashed
 the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to
 drive on the pins, also
 caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose
 bout the designnn, and
 built replacemeanat based on this with stainless
 steel shock,,, coupler,
 buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent
 into the creek,,
 theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that
 willl drop u in your
 tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u
 want to find out how well
 wash water in the crk might work, post two line
 ad in your local
 newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss
 will let you knoww how
 wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of
 i this way the
 discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be
 neutra,, want to
 drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u
 wouldnt want to drink,
 somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so
 then u or someone
 drinks it anyawya



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Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-12-03 Thread Keith Addison



Mats: I think Buck was saying that that part broke apart on diesel 
fuel, not on biodiesel or SVO, wasn't he?


In any case, SVO is not nearly as good a solvent as biodiesel.  The 
issue with high percentage blends of biodiesel and B100 is that it's 
a solvent that attacks the pump seals.


That's the theory, but is it really an issue? Dino-diesel seems to be 
just as corrosive, even when it's not LSD or ULSD. After all this 
time, do we actually have a clear-cut case of pump seals being 
corroded by biodiesel? We do hear of corroded seals, but I don't know 
of any where biodiesel was proven to be the culprit, or the sole 
culprit. As an issue I think it's overrated. If anyone is concerned 
about biodiesel rotting their pump seals I'd say go ahead and do it, 
it's unlikely to happen, if it does happen it's as likely to be a 
natural death anyway, and it's unlikely to be a sudden catastrophe, 
you'll have warning.


Best wishes

Keith


SVO does not do that, not to any great extent at least. The issue 
with SVO, on the other hand is viscosity. Heating it to 70C 
(roughly) gets it into the range that it can be tolerated by pumps - 
some tolerate it better than others. Inline pumps do best, but many 
rotary pumps do ok as well. There are lots of Stanadyne pumps using 
heated vegoil.


If your pump has had to be rebuilt a few times, on diesel, this is 
because it was subjected to low sulphur diesel, most likely. That 
fuel does not provide adequate lubricity. Interestingly, only 0.1% 
addition of a Canola (rapeseed) derived lubricity additive would 
have likely saved the pump!


If you use cold pressed rapeseed oil, heated, two tank system, I 
think you've have very good chances of success with SVO.


There is for example a John Deere tractor (in Sweden) with a Roosa 
pump - over 600 hours I believe, on rapeseed SVO.




Regards,

Edward Beggs B.E.S. M.Sc.
Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
http://www.biofuels.ca



On Dec 3, 2004, at 3:00 AM, Mats Jansson wrote:


Is this shock coupler the only part that needs to bee replaced? In that
case it would be best to do before it brokes... Is this a problen when
driving on processed biofuel too or just SVO? Do anyone knows where to by
the proper parts?

Mats Jansson, Sweden


FrŒn: Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Svara till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Datum: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 09:54:16 -0700
Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
€mne: Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

no it is not gov, ,, purpoe is to soften coupling between engiane and
internanals,, the old ones were rubberlikeake plastic disc like a disc pump
coupling,  if u have pepper liake stuff, u must rebauldd the pump, just
to ge the trash out, the grit getsss into the finer passesges, and pump
must be toanr down completell to change thae shock coupler,, it only
cost,, used to cost couple of dollarsss but the labor cost tow, three
hundred at injections shop prices,but even if u could get it in, u know,
kne that u are building in known failure unless u could get the
stanadyne part and the injectiaon shops are not casual about seelling just
that piece, they want the pump job,. rebuildidng hte snanadyne pump i
somesting best not tried by the average mechanic the tool equaity
requaired is not worth the effort given the praobable chance of not getting
it right, give it to reputable pump shop and have it rebuilt to snaandyne
specs with the corredct stainless sprung coupler, in would even go so far as
to question the shop as to whetaher the stainless part is used, not the
rubeerrr , buck,

Is this shock coupler the same thing as the governor?
When I had to have a pump rebuilt that's what they
seemed to call it, and from memory their description
of it was very similiar to what you're calling the
shock coupler. I opened up the top of it before taking
it in and found black bits all over, as I was told I
would if it was bad. Interesting to see the inside,
but I didn't dare tear into it without either the
knowledge or tools.

Thanks!
Erik
--- Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvyel
caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,,
that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa
master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as
6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm
application, it had a
shoc coup0ler insid that waass
incompatibleee with diesel fuel,
it was  aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of
silver dollar wit sixx
holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this
coupllser , it turneddd
blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like
blaack perpper,,trashed
the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to
drive on the pins, also
caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose
bout the designnn, and
built replacemeanat based on this with stainless
steel shock,,, coupler,
buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent
into the creek,,
theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that
willl drop u in your
tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u
want to find out

Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-12-01 Thread Erik Lane

Is this shock coupler the same thing as the governor?
When I had to have a pump rebuilt that's what they
seemed to call it, and from memory their description
of it was very similiar to what you're calling the
shock coupler. I opened up the top of it before taking
it in and found black bits all over, as I was told I
would if it was bad. Interesting to see the inside,
but I didn't dare tear into it without either the
knowledge or tools.

Thanks!
Erik
--- Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvyel
 caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,, 
 that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa
 master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as 
 6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm
 application, it had a 
 shoc coup0ler insid that waass
 incompatibleee with diesel fuel, 
 it was  aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of
 silver dollar wit sixx 
 holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this
 coupllser , it turneddd 
 blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like
 blaack perpper,,trashed 
 the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to
 drive on the pins, also 
 caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose
 bout the designnn, and 
 built replacemeanat based on this with stainless
 steel shock,,, coupler, 
 buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent
 into the creek,, 
 theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that
 willl drop u in your 
 tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u
 want to find out how well 
 wash water in the crk might work, post two line
 ad in your local 
 newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss
 will let you knoww how 
 wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of
 i this way the 
 discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be
 neutra,, want to 
 drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u
 wouldnt want to drink, 
 somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so
 then u or someone 
 drinks it anyawya
 

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Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-12-01 Thread Buck Williams


internanals,, the old ones were rubberlikeake plastic disc like a disc pump 
coupling,  if u have pepper liake stuff, u must rebauldd the pump, just 
to ge the trash out, the grit getsss into the finer passesges, and pump 
must be toanr down completell to change thae shock coupler,, it only 
cost,, used to cost couple of dollarsss but the labor cost tow, three 
hundred at injections shop prices,but even if u could get it in, u know, 
kne that u are building in known failure unless u could get the 
stanadyne part and the injectiaon shops are not casual about seelling just 
that piece, they want the pump job,. rebuildidng hte snanadyne pump i 
somesting best not tried by the average mechanic the tool equaity 
requaired is not worth the effort given the praobable chance of not getting 
it right, give it to reputable pump shop and have it rebuilt to snaandyne 
specs with the corredct stainless sprung coupler, in would even go so far as 
to question the shop as to whetaher the stainless part is used, not the 
rubeerrr , buck,

Is this shock coupler the same thing as the governor?
When I had to have a pump rebuilt that's what they
seemed to call it, and from memory their description
of it was very similiar to what you're calling the
shock coupler. I opened up the top of it before taking
it in and found black bits all over, as I was told I
would if it was bad. Interesting to see the inside,
but I didn't dare tear into it without either the
knowledge or tools.

Thanks!
Erik
--- Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dary hannnah, drivess a 78? chevvyel
 caminoo, burnsss veg oilll,,
 that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa
 master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as
 6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm
 application, it had a
 shoc coup0ler insid that waass
 incompatibleee with diesel fuel,
 it was  aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of
 silver dollar wit sixx
 holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this
 coupllser , it turneddd
 blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like
 blaack perpper,,trashed
 the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to
 drive on the pins, also
 caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose
 bout the designnn, and
 built replacemeanat based on this with stainless
 steel shock,,, coupler,
 buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent
 into the creek,,
 theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that
 willl drop u in your
 tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u
 want to find out how well
 wash water in the crk might work, post two line
 ad in your local
 newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss
 will let you knoww how
 wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of
 i this way the
 discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be
 neutra,, want to
 drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u
 wouldnt want to drink,
 somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so
 then u or someone
 drinks it anyawya


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Re: [Biofuel] veg oil innn gm 5.7---6.2

2004-11-30 Thread Buck Williams


that wouald beee the gm 5.7 with roosaaa master,,/stanadynee pumpp,, same as 
6.2,, stanadtne was rebuilding early roosa for gm application, it had a 
shoc coup0ler insid that waass incompatibleee with diesel fuel, 
it was  aaa plastic disc aabobut the sizeee of silver dollar wit sixx 
holes equallyy apaced. when diesel attacaked this coupllser , it turneddd 
blackkk, hard, briattle, breaking up ,looked like blaack perpper,,trashed 
the fuel systemm, also this causedd the cpupler to drive on the pins, also 
caused the timeingg to retard drasticallly,, roose bout the designnn, and 
built replacemeanat based on this with stainless steel shock,,, coupler, 
buck,for the personn wo wants to put his efflujent into the creek,, 
theree are many thisngsss, with neutral ph that willl drop u in your 
tracksss as sure as gunshot to the eyebrows, if u want to find out how well 
wash water in the crk might work, post two line ad in your local 
newspaper with your intentionsss,,jyour neighborss will let you knoww how 
wel they thinkk it might workbuck,think of i this way the 
discharge froam yourr washisng machine mightt be neutra,, want to 
drink it, dont put anythiang in your water u wouldnt want to drink, 
somebody does even if theyr cowss, and if so then u or someone 
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