RE: [biofuel] seperating glyc and FFA

2003-02-01 Thread filip.ponsaerts
Hi, some update on my 'problem' with separating glycerine. I've continued my tests, and come up with the following.

Re: [biofuel] seperating glyc and FFA

2003-01-31 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Filip I've done quite a lot of work with this, though not as much as Todd, but it was with phosphoric acid, not sulphuric acid - I don't know if Todd's used sulphuric, but I think not. I do know that acidifying soapstock is usually done with sulphuric acid, so, since this is very

RE: [biofuel] seperating glyc and FFA

2003-01-31 Thread James Slayden
darn, I wish I had my pics from the seperations we did in Girl Marks Ecology Center workshop. Mark, you have any online Pics available on what the seperation should look like? James Slayden On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, filip.ponsaerts wrote: follow-up on my question, see answers below Who can

RE: [biofuel] seperating glyc and FFA

2003-01-31 Thread girl mark
I don't think anyone photographed it and I don't have a digital camera. But there's photos at the jtf section on glycerine/ffa separation and Im sure that filip saw them... mark At 11:51 AM 1/31/2003 -0800, you wrote: darn, I wish I had my pics from the seperations we did in Girl Marks Ecology

RE: [biofuel] seperating glyc and FFA

2003-01-31 Thread James Slayden
Actually I took pics of the jar that you brought to the workshop. At least that's what I think it is (or what it looks like!). It could have been an emulsification exammple, although the middle layer is molasses color, so it seems to be Glyc seperation. Dunno, there was a question from Ken

RE: [biofuel] seperating glyc and FFA

2003-01-31 Thread girl mark
I think you're thinking of something else. not sure what though. the middle layer of the jar I had in class was clearish yellowish. there wasn't all that much visible salts layer if you looked at the jar head on. the reason ken mentioned soap is cause that's what's being broken down from the

RE: [biofuel] seperating glyc and FFA

2003-01-30 Thread filip.ponsaerts
follow-up on my question, see answers below Who can help me on this??? From one of the one-liter batches I'm trying, I tried to split the soap again into FFA. So the deposits of the trans-esterification, I seperated, and mixed with H2SO4. both phases, or just the glycerine phase that had

[biofuel] seperating glyc and FFA

2003-01-29 Thread filip.ponsaerts
Hello, I'm new in making Biodiesel, and while trying, I came up to something I do not understand. From one of the one-liter batches I'm trying, I tried to split the soap again into FFA. So the deposits of the trans-esterification, I seperated, and mixed with H2SO4. The oil source was WVO,

Re: [biofuel] seperating glyc and FFA

2003-01-29 Thread girl mark
It sometimes takes time for you to see the results (24 hours?) . I don't know enough aobut this to know if the calculation is correct, however you can do a trial and error test series to figure out how much acid to use. The first time I did this, I did a small test batch and with no results

Re: [biofuel] seperating glyc and FFA

2003-01-29 Thread Ken Provost
Filip writes: From one of the one-liter batches I'm trying, I tried to split the soap again into FFA. So the deposits of the trans-esterification, I seperated, and mixed with H2SO4. Both phases, or just the glycerine phase that had already settled out using an NaOH catalyst? It's not clear