Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-10 Thread Keith Addison

Hmm, forgot about the oil content,  Sheesh, one man's trash is another's
treasure 

Yes! Now how do we put a stop to the downright silly intermediate 
step of trashing it in the first place?

Keith



On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote:

  Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit??  Why not
  turn
  it in to ethanol.  Truely is a a shame 
  
  
  James Slayden
  
  BTW murdoch, you have any contacts in the avocado industry??  ;-)
 
  Hi James
 
  Ethanol and biodiesel - there's a lot of oil in that fruit, 282
  gallons an acre, it says here.
 
  Or at least compost it - good composting in the orchards would reduce
  pest attack anyway. Or even eliminate it.
 
  Best
 
  Keith
 
 
 
  On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, murdoch wrote:
  
   
   
  http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021205-_1mc5spin.html
   
VALLEY CENTER ñ Organic growers inside the expected quarantine area
here will be able to fight the Mexican fruit fly with a new variety
  of
a special insecticide, state officials said yesterday.
   
The news was great relief to organic farmers who didn't know how they
would be able to keep their certified-organic status while battling
the destructive fly.
   
There's been this fear out there that was not going to happen, but
that is really good news, said Jerome Stehly, chairman of the
California Avocado Commission who owns a grove where the flies and
larvae were found.
   
There's a lot of growers in Valley Center who are organic, said
Stehly, who also owns 10 acres of organically grown avocados near
Interstate 15. It gives them an option so they can take their fruit
to market.
   
   
  http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021206-_1mi6mexfl
  y.html
   
   
  http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/metro/news_1mi1fly.html
   
Organic growers are allowed to use a pesticide called spinosad, but
  it
currently is unavailable because of an oversight by state officials
who did not renew its annual registration.
   
That was criminally negligent, Al Stehly said. Now we have one
choice and that's malathion.


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Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-10 Thread James Slayden

Someone needs to come up with an alternative and get the powers that be to
believe in it!!  ;-)  One might also get grants and subsidies as a side 
benefit also 


James Slayden


On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote:

 Hmm, forgot about the oil content,  Sheesh, one man's trash is another's
 treasure 
 
 Yes! Now how do we put a stop to the downright silly intermediate
 step of trashing it in the first place?
 
 Keith
 
 
 
 On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote:
 
   Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit??  Why not
   turn
   it in to ethanol.  Truely is a a shame 
   
   
   James Slayden
   
   BTW murdoch, you have any contacts in the avocado industry??  ;-)
  
   Hi James
  
   Ethanol and biodiesel - there's a lot of oil in that fruit, 282
   gallons an acre, it says here.
  
   Or at least compost it - good composting in the orchards would reduce
   pest attack anyway. Or even eliminate it.
  
   Best
  
   Keith
  
  
  
   On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, murdoch wrote:
   


  
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021205-_1mc5spin.html

 VALLEY CENTER Ò Organic growers inside the expected quarantine
 area
 here will be able to fight the Mexican fruit fly with a new
 variety
   of
 a special insecticide, state officials said yesterday.

 The news was great relief to organic farmers who didn't know how
 they
 would be able to keep their certified-organic status while
 battling
 the destructive fly.

 There's been this fear out there that was not going to happen,
 but
 that is really good news, said Jerome Stehly, chairman of the
 California Avocado Commission who owns a grove where the flies
 and
 larvae were found.

 There's a lot of growers in Valley Center who are organic, said
 Stehly, who also owns 10 acres of organically grown avocados near
 Interstate 15. It gives them an option so they can take their
 fruit
 to market.


  
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021206-_1mi6mexfl
   y.html


  
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/metro/news_1mi1fly.html

 Organic growers are allowed to use a pesticide called spinosad,
 but
   it
 currently is unavailable because of an oversight by state
 officials
 who did not renew its annual registration.

 That was criminally negligent, Al Stehly said. Now we have one
 choice and that's malathion.
 
 
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Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-10 Thread Keith Addison

Someone needs to come up with an alternative and get the powers that be to
believe in it!!  ;-)  One might also get grants and subsidies as a side
benefit also 


James Slayden

Or... how about trashing the powers that be? :-)

Hazardous wastes, LOL!

Keith



On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote:

  Hmm, forgot about the oil content,  Sheesh, one man's trash is another's
  treasure 
 
  Yes! Now how do we put a stop to the downright silly intermediate
  step of trashing it in the first place?
 
  Keith
 
 
 
  On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote:
  
Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit??  Why not
turn
it in to ethanol.  Truely is a a shame 


James Slayden

BTW murdoch, you have any contacts in the avocado industry??  ;-)
   
Hi James
   
Ethanol and biodiesel - there's a lot of oil in that fruit, 282
gallons an acre, it says here.
   
Or at least compost it - good composting in the orchards would reduce
pest attack anyway. Or even eliminate it.
   
Best
   
Keith
   
   
   
On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, murdoch wrote:

 
 
   
  http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021205-_1mc5spin.html
 
  VALLEY CENTER  Organic growers inside the expected quarantine
  area
  here will be able to fight the Mexican fruit fly with a new
  variety
of
  a special insecticide, state officials said yesterday.
 
  The news was great relief to organic farmers who didn't know how
  they
  would be able to keep their certified-organic status while
  battling
  the destructive fly.
 
  There's been this fear out there that was not going to happen,
  but
  that is really good news, said Jerome Stehly, chairman of the
  California Avocado Commission who owns a grove where the flies
  and
  larvae were found.
 
  There's a lot of growers in Valley Center who are organic, said
  Stehly, who also owns 10 acres of organically grown avocados near
  Interstate 15. It gives them an option so they can take their
  fruit
  to market.
 
 
   
  http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021206-_1mi6mexfl
y.html
 
 
   
  http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/metro/news_1mi1fly.html
 
  Organic growers are allowed to use a pesticide called spinosad,
  but
it
  currently is unavailable because of an oversight by state
  officials
  who did not renew its annual registration.
 
  That was criminally negligent, Al Stehly said. Now we have one
  choice and that's malathion.


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Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-09 Thread James Slayden

Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit??  Why not turn
it in to ethanol.  Truely is a a shame 


James Slayden

BTW murdoch, you have any contacts in the avocado industry??  ;-)

On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, murdoch wrote:

 
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021205-_1mc5spin.html
 
 VALLEY CENTER – Organic growers inside the expected quarantine area
 here will be able to fight the Mexican fruit fly with a new variety of
 a special insecticide, state officials said yesterday.
 
 The news was great relief to organic farmers who didn't know how they
 would be able to keep their certified-organic status while battling
 the destructive fly.
 
 There's been this fear out there that was not going to happen, but
 that is really good news, said Jerome Stehly, chairman of the
 California Avocado Commission who owns a grove where the flies and
 larvae were found.
 
 There's a lot of growers in Valley Center who are organic, said
 Stehly, who also owns 10 acres of organically grown avocados near
 Interstate 15. It gives them an option so they can take their fruit
 to market.
 
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021206-_1mi6mexfly.html
 
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/metro/news_1mi1fly.html
 
 Organic growers are allowed to use a pesticide called spinosad, but it
 currently is unavailable because of an oversight by state officials
 who did not renew its annual registration.
 
 That was criminally negligent, Al Stehly said. Now we have one
 choice and that's malathion.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison

Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit??  Why not turn
it in to ethanol.  Truely is a a shame 


James Slayden

BTW murdoch, you have any contacts in the avocado industry??  ;-)

Hi James

Ethanol and biodiesel - there's a lot of oil in that fruit, 282 
gallons an acre, it says here.

Or at least compost it - good composting in the orchards would reduce 
pest attack anyway. Or even eliminate it.

Best

Keith



On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, murdoch wrote:

 
  http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021205-_1mc5spin.html
 
  VALLEY CENTER – Organic growers inside the expected quarantine area
  here will be able to fight the Mexican fruit fly with a new variety of
  a special insecticide, state officials said yesterday.
 
  The news was great relief to organic farmers who didn't know how they
  would be able to keep their certified-organic status while battling
  the destructive fly.
 
  There's been this fear out there that was not going to happen, but
  that is really good news, said Jerome Stehly, chairman of the
  California Avocado Commission who owns a grove where the flies and
  larvae were found.
 
  There's a lot of growers in Valley Center who are organic, said
  Stehly, who also owns 10 acres of organically grown avocados near
  Interstate 15. It gives them an option so they can take their fruit
  to market.
 
  
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021206-_1mi6mexfl 
y.html
 
  http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/metro/news_1mi1fly.html
 
  Organic growers are allowed to use a pesticide called spinosad, but it
  currently is unavailable because of an oversight by state officials
  who did not renew its annual registration.
 
  That was criminally negligent, Al Stehly said. Now we have one
  choice and that's malathion.
 


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Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-09 Thread James Slayden

Hmm, forgot about the oil content,  Sheesh, one man's trash is another's
treasure 


On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote:

 Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit??  Why not
 turn
 it in to ethanol.  Truely is a a shame 
 
 
 James Slayden
 
 BTW murdoch, you have any contacts in the avocado industry??  ;-)
 
 Hi James
 
 Ethanol and biodiesel - there's a lot of oil in that fruit, 282
 gallons an acre, it says here.
 
 Or at least compost it - good composting in the orchards would reduce
 pest attack anyway. Or even eliminate it.
 
 Best
 
 Keith
 
 
 
 On Sat, 7 Dec 2002, murdoch wrote:
 
  
  
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021205-_1mc5spin.html
  
   VALLEY CENTER ñ Organic growers inside the expected quarantine area
   here will be able to fight the Mexican fruit fly with a new variety
 of
   a special insecticide, state officials said yesterday.
  
   The news was great relief to organic farmers who didn't know how they
   would be able to keep their certified-organic status while battling
   the destructive fly.
  
   There's been this fear out there that was not going to happen, but
   that is really good news, said Jerome Stehly, chairman of the
   California Avocado Commission who owns a grove where the flies and
   larvae were found.
  
   There's a lot of growers in Valley Center who are organic, said
   Stehly, who also owns 10 acres of organically grown avocados near
   Interstate 15. It gives them an option so they can take their fruit
   to market.
  
  
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021206-_1mi6mexfl
 y.html
  
  
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/metro/news_1mi1fly.html
  
   Organic growers are allowed to use a pesticide called spinosad, but
 it
   currently is unavailable because of an oversight by state officials
   who did not renew its annual registration.
  
   That was criminally negligent, Al Stehly said. Now we have one
   choice and that's malathion.
 
 
 
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Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch

Yes, it was impossible not to think that as they showed pictures on
local TV of dumping fruit (using bulldozers? I don't recall) into pits
dug in the Earth.

Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit??  Why not turn
it in to ethanol.  Truely is a a shame 
 
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021205-_1mc5spin.html


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[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-09 Thread murdoch

Yes, it was impossible not to think that as they showed pictures on
local TV of dumping fruit (using bulldozers? I don't recall) into pits
dug in the Earth.

Interesting that they are just burying the infested fruit??  Why not turn
it in to ethanol.  Truely is a a shame 
 
 http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021205-_1mc5spin.html


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[biofuels-biz] OT: San Diego Mexican Fruit Fly Quarantine Situation

2002-12-07 Thread murdoch


http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021205-_1mc5spin.html

VALLEY CENTER ö Organic growers inside the expected quarantine area
here will be able to fight the Mexican fruit fly with a new variety of
a special insecticide, state officials said yesterday. 

The news was great relief to organic farmers who didn't know how they
would be able to keep their certified-organic status while battling
the destructive fly. 

There's been this fear out there that was not going to happen, but
that is really good news, said Jerome Stehly, chairman of the
California Avocado Commission who owns a grove where the flies and
larvae were found. 

There's a lot of growers in Valley Center who are organic, said
Stehly, who also owns 10 acres of organically grown avocados near
Interstate 15. It gives them an option so they can take their fruit
to market. 

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021206-_1mi6mexfly.html

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/uniontrib/sun/metro/news_1mi1fly.html

Organic growers are allowed to use a pesticide called spinosad, but it
currently is unavailable because of an oversight by state officials
who did not renew its annual registration.

That was criminally negligent, Al Stehly said. Now we have one
choice and that's malathion.




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