RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show
Hi Kim, Sorry to be late getting back with you. I didn't find you message until yesterday when I was tidying up my e-mail. Somehow it got moved around. That seems to happen from time to time. You can contact me offlist about the conversion. Sincerely, Gregg Garth & Kim Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greetings,I can convert VHS to DVD easily. That is as long as their is no copyright interference. The DVDs are actually clearer that the original VHS.Bright Blessings,KimAt 05:17 PM 6/16/2005, you wrote: Hi Mel, I was just talking to my lab partner about the Fuel Meister earlier today. I told her that you could probably get all the assorted parts & put one together yourself for a lot less than the price they want. I'm trying to get things in order at my end to make a BD reactor from a water heater. While I've located a local sourse for methanol, my main constraint is space or the lack of it, but I've heard that it's better to use a tall water heater rather than the shorter ones. So many decisions!!! As to the mini-DV tape or DVD, I have some equipment to transfer VHS to DVD, but I have only tried it once, with not much luck. I'll see what I can come up with & let you know. Respectfully,GreggMel Riser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am not sure if it was junk. It seemdd to work and the titration charts and examples they had seemd clear and easy. Even had a water wash option. Whether fule meister is worth the 3000 they are advertising it for or whether someone would be more interested in the old water heater batch processor, it DID present BioDiesel in a good light and will spur the imagination of millions of diesel truck owners and that can't be a bad thing. I agree with Gregg, the Show was an A for clarity and clear presentation. Wheter the fuel meister is worth or not depends on how mechanically inclined you are. Most viewers of trucks are wrenchers that make their own stuff and if they can go to Journey to forever and learn how to make the same thing for less than 1000 USD then maybe they will. I wish I had taped as well. Hey Gregg can you make a Mini-DV tape or DVD? I would pay you something for digital files of the show. mel -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 6/15/2005 9:28 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Cc: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show Hi Gregg, Mel >Hi Mel, > >I saw too. I also taped it for future reference. I did notice one >thing that Stacey failed to mention: Heating the oil. Funny how they fail to mention that. >I know that it's possible to make biodiesel in a blender from virgin >oil, but the stuff he was using looked as though it had "been around >the block" at least once. I'll give the show an "A" for giving the >basics. I've not had any experience with the Fuel Meister, but I >have read some things online that aren't flattering. It's junk. The "instructions" (destructions?) that come with it are also junk - "back to the Dark Ages!", as some have said. See (please do!): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html Re: [biofuel] Best Processer "You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price." If dear old Rudi would only put anything like the effort he puts into promotion into making a half-decent bit of gear to promote... Don't hold yer breath. >Sincerely, >Gregg Davidson > > >Mel Riser wrote: > >Just saw the Fuel Meister on Trucks! And they didn't drive it into the sea? Pity. >They made a batch of BioDiesel and then put it in the truck and ran it. > >Pretty good show > >Now every Truck freak in the US will know about this. Sounds like the notorious BBC Top Gear show of a few years back - just add a teaspoon of turpentine and you can run your car on veggie oil. Not! But a lot of people believed it, and probably still do. A lot of them wrote to us, very boring! Now we're getting truckies doing the same thing. "... if this fuel works as well as the "trucks" segment said..." :-( >My dad called me last week and some of his buddies in Louisiana ( >where I'm from) are talking BioDiesel and grease cars. Well set him right, eh, Mel? Build your own! http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors And then just do it right: "Where do I start?" http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Best wishes Keith >mel ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http
RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show
Hi Keith, Gregg Davidson's definition of the basics - It is possible to make biodiesel from WVO. Folks have made it many times all over the world. I did notice a few irregularities in the show: 1.) No mention was ever made about heating the WVO at all. One would think the reaction will occur at room temp. Not so. 2.) Methanol was used to titrate the oil. ??? 3.) "You have the option to wash your fuel". BS IMO, washing is NOT an option, it IS a must. You don't want to ruin the engine of your diesel vehicle, do you??? I don't recall anything else that struck me as odd. I'll try to watch the tape to make sure. Respectfully, Gregg, graciously stepping down from my soap box. Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Mel>I am not sure if it was junk.Did you read the link? Here it is again:> See (please do!):> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html> Re: [biofuel] Best Processer>> "You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons> of high-quality biodiesel for that price."That thing won't make any gallons of high-quality biodiesel at whatever price. It's a snare and a delusion to lead newbies astray and empty their pockets. The online biodiesel "commmunity" is pretty fractious but with the exception of Rudi and Joshua there's widespread agreement that the FuelMeister's a major no-no.>It seemdd to work and the titration charts and examples they had >seemd clear and easy. Even had a water wash option.Even? An option? For more than $3,000? Yet they advise against washing, say it's bad for the motor, LOL! But if you really, really, want to wash it anyway you can pay a whole lot more for the washing option. And if you really, really, want to heat the stuff although room-temperature's recommended, more LOLs, you can pay a whole lot more again for a half-assed heating set-up. They claim that a breathing mask will protect you from methanol fumes, etc etc. Dark ages.>Whether fule meister is worth the 3000Plus - plus much of you want the complete catastrophe.>they are advertising it for or whether someone would be more >interested in the old water heater batch processor,There are more and better options than either of those.>it DID present BioDiesel in a good light and will spur the >imagination of millions of diesel truck owners and that can't be a >bad thing.If they go and buy FuelMeisters it will be a bad thing, IMHO. Poor-quality, overpriced equipment that comes with even worse instructions and makes poor-quality biodiesel is not a good thing, especially not when doing it right is so easy.>I agree with Gregg, the Show was an A for clarity and clear presentation.But of what? You can highlight a dogturd with clarity and clear presentation. Now they've sown the idea that you don't need to heat it, much easier! There'll be resistance to the fact that you DO need to heat it after all. It said on television you don't need to heat it, that's that.It is possible to make high-quality biodiesel at room temperature, but it needs special techniques and more skill than a newbiew trucker misled by his TV is going to be able to muster. Using a FuelMeister at room temperature he won't have much hope of getting within spitting distance of completion. How much of a good thing will he think it is when all those glycs and other impurities that shouldn't be there wreck his injector pump? But it said on television...>Wheter the fuel meister is worth or not depends on how mechanically >inclined you are.If it won't do the job right it's not worth it no matter how many thumbs you have.>Most viewers of trucks are wrenchers that make their own stuff and >if they can go to Journey to forever and learn how to make the same >thingWhy would they do that? They've been told all they need is a FuelMeister.>for less than 1000 USDOr less than 100 (ours).http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.htmlJourney to Forever 90-litre processorThere's a message in the archives estimating what it would cost if you bought the parts yourself and made your own FuelMeister, not that that's a good idea, but it came down to a fraction of what Rudi charges, or overcharges.Put a cone bottom on a 55-gallon drum, put in a couple of immersion heaters and some plumbing, use a good strong pump or a paddle stirrer, if it doesn't have a cinch-clamp lid make one out of wood and plastic underneath, sealed with silicon and held tight with toggle-latches; another drum with a stirrer for washing; another one with a burner underneath for pre-heating, dead easy, good brew, and what will it cost? Not very much.Oh well.Best wishesKeith>then maybe they will.>>I wish I had taped as well.>>Hey Gregg can you make a Mini-DV tape or DVD? I would pay you >something for digi
RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show
Hi Mel I agree with all of this. It is too expensive. At any price, I think. But anyone that doesn't want to spend that kind of money, will hopefully google Biodiesel and come up with Journey to forever. HOPEFULLY. :-) Hope springs eternal. My point is making your own biofuel is finally making into mainstream TeeVee. hopefully they will want to make their own as that is what the gist of that show is about anyway. I suppose you can expect mainstream TeeVee to be a bit weak-kneed, or they'd've done a proper job and included the idea of making your own processor too. Very empowering sort of thing to do, and so easy. I guess Rudi approached them though, as is his wont, so that was a given. Always look a gift-horse in the mouth! LOL! Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show
Title: RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show I agree with all of this. It is too expensive. But anyone that doesn't want to spend that kind of money, will hopefully google Biodiesel and come up with Journey to forever. HOPEFULLY. My point is making your own biofuel is finally making into mainstream TeeVee. hopefully they will want to make their own as that is what the gist of that show is about anyway. -Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.4/16 - Release Date: 6/15/2005 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show
Greetings, I can convert VHS to DVD easily. That is as long as their is no copyright interference. The DVDs are actually clearer that the original VHS. Bright Blessings, Kim At 05:17 PM 6/16/2005, you wrote: Hi Mel, I was just talking to my lab partner about the Fuel Meister earlier today. I told her that you could probably get all the assorted parts & put one together yourself for a lot less than the price they want. I'm trying to get things in order at my end to make a BD reactor from a water heater. While I've located a local sourse for methanol, my main constraint is space or the lack of it, but I've heard that it's better to use a tall water heater rather than the shorter ones. So many decisions!!! As to the mini-DV tape or DVD, I have some equipment to transfer VHS to DVD, but I have only tried it once, with not much luck. I'll see what I can come up with & let you know. Respectfully, Gregg Mel Riser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am not sure if it was junk. It seemdd to work and the titration charts and examples they had seemd clear and easy. Even had a water wash option. Whether fule meister is worth the 3000 they are advertising it for or whether someone would be more interested in the old water heater batch processor, it DID present BioDiesel in a good light and will spur the imagination of millions of diesel truck owners and that can't be a bad thing. I agree with Gregg, the Show was an A for clarity and clear presentation. Wheter the fuel meister is worth or not depends on how mechanically inclined you are. Most viewers of trucks are wrenchers that make their own stuff and if they can go to Journey to forever and learn how to make the same thing for less than 1000 USD then maybe they will. I wish I had taped as well. Hey Gregg can you make a Mini-DV tape or DVD? I would pay you something for digital files of the show. mel -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 6/15/2005 9:28 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Cc: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show Hi Gregg, Mel >Hi Mel, > >I saw too. I also taped it for future reference. I did notice one >thing that Stacey failed to mention: Heating the oil. Funny how they fail to mention that. >I know that it's possible to make biodiesel in a blender from virgin >oil, but the stuff he was using looked as though it had "been around >the block" at least once. I'll give the show an "A" for giving the >basics. I've not had any experience with the Fuel Meister, but I >have read some things online that aren't flattering. It's junk. The "instructions" (destructions?) that come with it are also junk - "back to the Dark Ages!", as some have said. See (please do!): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html Re: [biofuel] Best Processer "You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price." If dear old Rudi would only put anything like the effort he puts into promotion into making a half-decent bit of gear to promote... Don't hold yer breath. >Sincerely, >Gregg Davidson > > >Mel Riser wrote: > >Just saw the Fuel Meister on Trucks! And they didn't drive it into the sea? Pity. >They made a batch of BioDiesel and then put it in the truck and ran it. > >Pretty good show > >Now every Truck freak in the US will know about this. Sounds like the notorious BBC Top Gear show of a few years back - just add a teaspoon of turpentine and you can run your car on veggie oil. Not! But a lot of people believed it, and probably still do. A lot of them wrote to us, very boring! Now we're getting truckies doing the same thing. "... if this fuel works as well as the "trucks" segment said..." :-( >My dad called me last week and some of his buddies in Louisiana ( >where I'm from) are talking BioDiesel and grease cars. Well set him right, eh, Mel? Build your own! http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors And then just do it right: "Where do I start?" http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Best wishes Keith >mel ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/bi
RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show
Hi Mel
I am not sure if it was junk.
Did you read the link? Here it is again:
See (please do!):
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer
"You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons
of high-quality biodiesel for that price."
That thing won't make any gallons of high-quality biodiesel at
whatever price. It's a snare and a delusion to lead newbies astray
and empty their pockets. The online biodiesel "commmunity" is pretty
fractious but with the exception of Rudi and Joshua there's
widespread agreement that the FuelMeister's a major no-no.
It seemdd to work and the titration charts and examples they had
seemd clear and easy. Even had a water wash option.
Even? An option? For more than $3,000? Yet they advise against
washing, say it's bad for the motor, LOL! But if you really, really,
want to wash it anyway you can pay a whole lot more for the washing
option. And if you really, really, want to heat the stuff although
room-temperature's recommended, more LOLs, you can pay a whole lot
more again for a half-assed heating set-up. They claim that a
breathing mask will protect you from methanol fumes, etc etc. Dark
ages.
Whether fule meister is worth the 3000
Plus - plus much of you want the complete catastrophe.
they are advertising it for or whether someone would be more
interested in the old water heater batch processor,
There are more and better options than either of those.
it DID present BioDiesel in a good light and will spur the
imagination of millions of diesel truck owners and that can't be a
bad thing.
If they go and buy FuelMeisters it will be a bad thing, IMHO.
Poor-quality, overpriced equipment that comes with even worse
instructions and makes poor-quality biodiesel is not a good thing,
especially not when doing it right is so easy.
I agree with Gregg, the Show was an A for clarity and clear presentation.
But of what? You can highlight a dogturd with clarity and clear
presentation. Now they've sown the idea that you don't need to heat
it, much easier! There'll be resistance to the fact that you DO need
to heat it after all. It said on television you don't need to heat
it, that's that.
It is possible to make high-quality biodiesel at room temperature,
but it needs special techniques and more skill than a newbiew trucker
misled by his TV is going to be able to muster. Using a FuelMeister
at room temperature he won't have much hope of getting within
spitting distance of completion. How much of a good thing will he
think it is when all those glycs and other impurities that shouldn't
be there wreck his injector pump? But it said on television...
Wheter the fuel meister is worth or not depends on how mechanically
inclined you are.
If it won't do the job right it's not worth it no matter how many
thumbs you have.
Most viewers of trucks are wrenchers that make their own stuff and
if they can go to Journey to forever and learn how to make the same
thing
Why would they do that? They've been told all they need is a FuelMeister.
for less than 1000 USD
Or less than 100 (ours).
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor10.html
Journey to Forever 90-litre processor
There's a message in the archives estimating what it would cost if
you bought the parts yourself and made your own FuelMeister, not that
that's a good idea, but it came down to a fraction of what Rudi
charges, or overcharges.
Put a cone bottom on a 55-gallon drum, put in a couple of immersion
heaters and some plumbing, use a good strong pump or a paddle
stirrer, if it doesn't have a cinch-clamp lid make one out of wood
and plastic underneath, sealed with silicon and held tight with
toggle-latches; another drum with a stirrer for washing; another one
with a burner underneath for pre-heating, dead easy, good brew, and
what will it cost? Not very much.
Oh well.
Best wishes
Keith
then maybe they will.
I wish I had taped as well.
Hey Gregg can you make a Mini-DV tape or DVD? I would pay you
something for digital files of the show.
mel
-Original Message-
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 6/15/2005 9:28 PM
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show
Hi Gregg, Mel
>Hi Mel,
>
>I saw too. I also taped it for future reference. I did notice one
>thing that Stacey failed to mention: Heating the oil.
Funny how they fail to mention that.
>I know that it's possible to make biodiesel in a blender from virgin
>oil, but the stuff he was using looked as though it had "been around
>the block&quo
RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show
Hi Mel, I was just talking to my lab partner about the Fuel Meister earlier today. I told her that you could probably get all the assorted parts & put one together yourself for a lot less than the price they want. I'm trying to get things in order at my end to make a BD reactor from a water heater. While I've located a local sourse for methanol, my main constraint is space or the lack of it, but I've heard that it's better to use a tall water heater rather than the shorter ones. So many decisions!!! As to the mini-DV tape or DVD, I have some equipment to transfer VHS to DVD, but I have only tried it once, with not much luck. I'll see what I can come up with & let you know. Respectfully, Gregg Mel Riser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am not sure if it was junk. It seemdd to work and the titration charts and examples they had seemd clear and easy. Even had a water wash option.Whether fule meister is worth the 3000 they are advertising it for or whether someone would be more interested in the old water heater batch processor, it DID present BioDiesel in a good light and will spur the imagination of millions of diesel truck owners and that can't be a bad thing.I agree with Gregg, the Show was an A for clarity and clear presentation. Wheter the fuel meister is worth or not depends on how mechanically inclined you are.Most viewers of trucks are wrenchers that make their own stuff and if they can go to Journey to forever and learn how to make the same thing for less than 1000 USD then maybe they will.I wish I had taped as well.Hey Gregg can you make a Mini-DV tape or DVD? I would pay you something for digital files of the show.mel-Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 6/15/2005 9:28 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Cc: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks showHi Gregg, Mel>Hi Mel,>>I saw too. I also taped it for future reference. I did notice one>thing that Stacey failed to mention: Heating the oil.Funny how they fail to mention that.>I know that it's possible to make biodiesel in a blender from virgin>oil, but the stuff he was using looked as though it had "been around>the block" at least once. I'll give the show an "A" for giving the>basics. I've not had any experience with the Fuel Meister, but I>have read some things online that aren't flattering.It's junk. The "instructions" (destructions?) that come with it arealso junk - "back tothe Dark Ages!", as some have said.See (please do!):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.htmlRe: [biofuel] Best Processer"You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallonsof high-quality biodiesel for that price."If dear old Rudi would only put anything like the effort he puts intopromotion into making a half-decent bit of gear to promote... Don'thold yer breath.>Sincerely,>Gregg Davidson>>>Mel Riser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>>Just saw the Fuel Meister on Trucks!And they didn't drive it into the sea? Pity.>They made a batch of BioDiesel and then put it in the truck and ran it.>>Pretty good show>>Now every Truck freak in the US will know about this.Sounds like the notorious BBC Top Gear show of a few years back -just add a teaspoon of turpentine and you can run your car on veggieoil. Not! But a lot of people believed it, and probably still do. Alot of them wrote to us, very boring! Now we're getting truckiesdoing the same thing. "... if this fuel works as well as the "trucks"segment said..." :-(>My dad called me last week and some of his buddies in Louisiana (>where I'm from) are talking BioDiesel and grease cars.Well set him right, eh, Mel? Build your own!http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.htmlBiodiesel processorsAnd then just do it right:"Where do I start?"http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#startBest wishesKeith>mel___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Sea
RE: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show
I am not sure if it was junk. It seemdd to work and the titration charts and examples they had seemd clear and easy. Even had a water wash option. Whether fule meister is worth the 3000 they are advertising it for or whether someone would be more interested in the old water heater batch processor, it DID present BioDiesel in a good light and will spur the imagination of millions of diesel truck owners and that can't be a bad thing. I agree with Gregg, the Show was an A for clarity and clear presentation. Wheter the fuel meister is worth or not depends on how mechanically inclined you are. Most viewers of trucks are wrenchers that make their own stuff and if they can go to Journey to forever and learn how to make the same thing for less than 1000 USD then maybe they will. I wish I had taped as well. Hey Gregg can you make a Mini-DV tape or DVD? I would pay you something for digital files of the show. mel -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 6/15/2005 9:28 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Cc: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show Hi Gregg, Mel >Hi Mel, > >I saw too. I also taped it for future reference. I did notice one >thing that Stacey failed to mention: Heating the oil. Funny how they fail to mention that. >I know that it's possible to make biodiesel in a blender from virgin >oil, but the stuff he was using looked as though it had "been around >the block" at least once. I'll give the show an "A" for giving the >basics. I've not had any experience with the Fuel Meister, but I >have read some things online that aren't flattering. It's junk. The "instructions" (destructions?) that come with it are also junk - "back to the Dark Ages!", as some have said. See (please do!): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html Re: [biofuel] Best Processer "You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price." If dear old Rudi would only put anything like the effort he puts into promotion into making a half-decent bit of gear to promote... Don't hold yer breath. >Sincerely, >Gregg Davidson > > >Mel Riser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Just saw the Fuel Meister on Trucks! And they didn't drive it into the sea? Pity. >They made a batch of BioDiesel and then put it in the truck and ran it. > >Pretty good show > >Now every Truck freak in the US will know about this. Sounds like the notorious BBC Top Gear show of a few years back - just add a teaspoon of turpentine and you can run your car on veggie oil. Not! But a lot of people believed it, and probably still do. A lot of them wrote to us, very boring! Now we're getting truckies doing the same thing. "... if this fuel works as well as the "trucks" segment said..." :-( >My dad called me last week and some of his buddies in Louisiana ( >where I'm from) are talking BioDiesel and grease cars. Well set him right, eh, Mel? Build your own! http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors And then just do it right: "Where do I start?" http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Best wishes Keith >mel ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ <>___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show
Hi Gregg, Mel Hi Mel, I saw too. I also taped it for future reference. I did notice one thing that Stacey failed to mention: Heating the oil. Funny how they fail to mention that. I know that it's possible to make biodiesel in a blender from virgin oil, but the stuff he was using looked as though it had "been around the block" at least once. I'll give the show an "A" for giving the basics. I've not had any experience with the Fuel Meister, but I have read some things online that aren't flattering. It's junk. The "instructions" (destructions?) that come with it are also junk - "back to the Dark Ages!", as some have said. See (please do!): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html Re: [biofuel] Best Processer "You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price." If dear old Rudi would only put anything like the effort he puts into promotion into making a half-decent bit of gear to promote... Don't hold yer breath. Sincerely, Gregg Davidson Mel Riser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just saw the Fuel Meister on Trucks! And they didn't drive it into the sea? Pity. They made a batch of BioDiesel and then put it in the truck and ran it. Pretty good show Now every Truck freak in the US will know about this. Sounds like the notorious BBC Top Gear show of a few years back - just add a teaspoon of turpentine and you can run your car on veggie oil. Not! But a lot of people believed it, and probably still do. A lot of them wrote to us, very boring! Now we're getting truckies doing the same thing. "... if this fuel works as well as the "trucks" segment said..." :-( My dad called me last week and some of his buddies in Louisiana ( where I'm from) are talking BioDiesel and grease cars. Well set him right, eh, Mel? Build your own! http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors And then just do it right: "Where do I start?" http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Best wishes Keith mel ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel on Spike TeeVee Trucks show
Hi Mel, I saw too. I also taped it for future reference. I did notice one thing that Stacey failed to mention: Heating the oil. I know that it's possible to make biodiesel in a blender from virgin oil, but the stuff he was using looked as though it had "been around the block" at least once. I'll give the show an "A" for giving the basics. I've not had any experience with the Fuel Meister, but I have read some things online that aren't flattering. Sincerely, Gregg Davidson Mel Riser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just saw the Fuel Meister on Trucks! They made a batch of BioDiesel and then put it in the truck and ran it. Pretty good show Now every Truck freak in the US will know about this. My dad called me last week and some of his buddies in Louisiana ( where I'm from) are talking BioDiesel and grease cars. mel___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel & more fun for the weekend. Check it out!___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
