RE: [Biofuel] Sugar Beat Yield for Ethanol Production

2005-06-10 Thread Chris Lloyd








You only get an estimated sugar recovery of 10,000
pounds per acre from sugar beet in a good year. I cannot see that making 1200
gallons of alcohol. Chris



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RE: [Biofuel] Sugar Beat Yield for Ethanol Production

2005-06-10 Thread John Freeman








Perhaps not quite, but
the originally reference http://www.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/makingethanol.htm
says that it takes 1 pound of sugar to make ½ pound of ethanol, so your 10,000
pounds of sugar from an acre makes 5000 pounds ethanol.  Not sure of exact
weight of ethanol, but I can believe a 6.7 pounds/gallon number I found, gives
you 750 gallons of ethanol, not too bad.  Of course you might want to burn some
of that to cook the mash and fire the still.  



So this is interesting,
but I am personally more excited by enzyme processes that use wood waste, farm
waste, grass, other cellulose.  Here in Massachusetts
there is not large scale farming to produce corn or beets to make into ethanol,
nor soy or canola to make into biodiesel, so there are maybe 1-2 places in the
state to fill up with commercial biodiesel, and NO places I know of to fill up
with E85.  Opportunity!



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You only get an estimated sugar recovery of 10,000
pounds per acre from sugar beet in a good year. I cannot see that making 1200
gallons of alcohol. Chris



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Re: [Biofuel] Sugar Beat Yield for Ethanol Production

2005-06-10 Thread Dave Brockes



How old isyour information regarding Sugar 
Beet yields? I think it could be substantially higher but still fooling around 
with it. Yield will have to be much higher to make it profitable for the 
producer.Any information related to Sugar Beets that anyone might have or 
have knowledge of would be very much appreciated, points of contact, 
studiesand etc.
Thank you all.
golferdad

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  Ethanol Production
  
  
  
  "The average auto uses 800 gallons of fuel per year and a single acre of 
  sugar beats for example would yield about 1200 gallons of alcohol."
  
  http://www.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/makingethanol.htm
  
  Can anyone substantiate this?
  
  I have a couple of other questions too.
  If this is a good crop for ethanol, do I have to take care of what's 
  taken out of the soil? Will I need to rotate if I do this every year? In 
  general, am I missing anything?
  
  If this is true, I think I know what my summer project is going to 
  be.
  
  :-)
  
  Mike
  
  

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Re: [Biofuel] Sugar Beat Yield for Ethanol Production

2005-06-10 Thread Keith Addison

Hi Mike

The average auto uses 800 gallons of fuel per year and a single 
acre of sugar beats for example would yield about 1200 gallons of 
alcohol.


http://www.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/makingethanol.htmhttp://www 
.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/makingethanol.htm


Can anyone substantiate this?

I have a couple of other questions too.
If this is a good crop for ethanol, do I have to take care of what's 
taken out of the soil?


As with all crops. Not a problem.

Will I need to rotate if I do this every year? In general, am I 
missing anything?


Avoid monocrops. Don't be too tempted by yield data, yield might not 
be the most important factor. Have another look at this:


http://sustainablelists.org/pipermail/biofuel_sustainablelists.org/200 
5-June/000429.html

[Biofuel] Dream Farms

IMHO.

Sugarcane, jerusalem artichokes, sweet sorghum... or an acre of fruit 
and nut trees a la Russell Smith and a few pigs:

http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library.html#treecrops

How about this? 100 tons per acre and 14% sugar content:
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg19404.html
Re: [biofuel] Burbank Cactus Catalog

(The whole thread's linked at the end of the message.)

Best wishes

Keith



If this is true, I think I know what my summer project is going to be.

:-)

Mike



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