RE: Bible, Koran Torah Thumping, not to mention other general s heeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] about God

2004-11-12 Thread Emmerick, Craig

Belief in a god of any king was there to hound the people into a belief that
if you are a bad person you will be punished. just like in the Holiwood
movies or the kindergarden stories told to ignorant children.

It is human nature to believe in A HIGHER BEEN because we all look for a
father or mother figure to cling to.

Unfortunately, some humans have exploited this nature and taken it into
profiting from some weaker, social dropouts and seriously demented beens,
who are gullable enough to believe in rubbish tossed in their direction.
Scraps from the table of the rich man i.e

The origin of mankind as a race on Earth has always been in question.
Mankinddoes not fall into the other categories of other animals on
earth. We are called primates, but why are we 1 million time more dominant
in every field over our nearest competitor. The answer stares us in the
face on a daily basis, but we refuse to accept it. Humans do not originate
from Earth. We are our own Martians. Laugh as you may, but look at the
evidence. 

Don't you think Earth is slowly replicating the conditions found on Mars?
CO2 levels unbearable, water evident, Temperatures unbearable extremes,
deforested, poles melted, and... and and...
Put any been on a virgin planet or island and they revert to cave man. Watch
the Survivor series on T.V. and you will see the logic. They are only there
for a few weeks and look what happened.

The Bible , Koran etc are nice story books to base an ideal on, but
remember.a story book still.

Most of the Bible's stories are symbolic figures of speech and can not be
taken literally. People .wake up and realise that the dark ages of magic
and trickery were left there and word games are not a modern fad.

Look after yourself and know the difference between right and wrong. Trust
no-one, for they will let you down. I have live on this policy for 40 years
and has worked for me so far. Live lif4e to the full, as long as it doesn't
hurt anyone in the process or deminish the gift of life to something cheap.

Perfection comes with practice , not create in a whole or hole.

Craig 

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Subject: Re: Bible, Koran  Torah Thumping, not to mention other general
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Robert,

 The proof of God's existence absolutely depends on how an individual 
 views the evidence.

So you're saying that if you saw someone walking on water tomorrow, he or 
she may not be God?

Okay. I'll buy that. But I'd sure like to know that trick. Think of all the 
money that would be saved on Goretex.

 What I view as evidence of God's creative power, another person may 
 readily accept as evidence for evolution.  In fact, both perspectives 
 require faith.

Homey don't buy that. Adapting, when given sufficient time, is a far sight 
easier than just being, without beginning or end.

 To me, this is evidence of God's creative power.  It's likely that you 
 have a more mundane view, and that's ok.

You're correct. To me it's evidence that it existed. Not how it came to be.

 Several centuries ago, people were so convinced that a man rose from the 
 dead that they willingly subjected themselves to intense ridicule, 
 persecution, and even death.  They were eye witnesses to a horrible 
 execution, followed by an empty tomb.  Some of these same people watched 
 the same man turn water into wine.  Other people of the day rejected this 
 evidence.  No miracle can convince someone who simply doesn't want to 
 believe.

You make the presumption that this actually occurred. Yet all you have as 
substance is supposed manuscripts of supposed people, all pasted together in

a nice little novel that sells at bookstores world round for around $7.95 in

paperback.

Might be that some very bizarre things transpired in their day. Might be 
that a sect of people desperately seeking something to cling to found just 
that. Who knows what possessed the writers of epistles and gospels? They 
certainly felt it worthwhile to burn a lot of midnight olive oil to get it 
all down. But then so did Edgar Allan Poe.

 Belief in creation depends on faith.  Here, we have no dispute.  I would 
 argue, however, that belief in a mechanistic explanation for the origin of

 life also depends on faith.

Ahhh, but I wasn't speaking of a mechanism that explained the origin of 
life, only a mechanism that explained how life continually evolves/devolves 
based on the demands placed upon it.

Who knows how life actually began. Certainly not you or I or anyone on 
this planet. Which rather brings the conversation full circle yet again 
Put two stickers on the biology books or take all stickers off?

If there is a god out there, no doubt he or she is perfectly capable of 
convincing me without so much as a nod of help from the frail human sector. 
All their involvment tends to do is shun people in the other 

RE: Bible, Koran Torah Thumping, not to mention other general s heeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] about God

2004-11-12 Thread aleksander . kac

snip
It is human nature to believe in A HIGHER BEEN because we all look for a
father or mother figure to cling to.

Um, I am a strong believer of higher beans ... :-) ... red kidney 
especially.
And that these beans cling to poles :o).
Yum.

Cheers
Aleks

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