[biofuels-biz] New Fuel-Efficiency Initiative Is More PR Than Progress

2002-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
Driving In Circles New Fuel-Efficiency Initiative Is More PR Than Progress by Steven Rosenfeld The Bush administration is giving Detroit a subsidy to develop hydrogen-fueled cars. But if history is a guide, automakers will use the program to cover their lack of any real progress on fuel

[biofuels-biz] U.S. science panel says Detroit can improve fuel use

2002-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/01/01172002/reu_46167.asp - 1/17/2002 - ENN.com U.S. science panel says Detroit can improve fuel use Thursday, January 17, 2002 By Julie Vorman, Reuters WASHINGTON - A National Academy of Sciences panel on Wednesday rebutted criticisms from automakers and

[biofuels-biz] Who Owns The Sky?

2002-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
Who Owns The Sky? We All Do -- And Polluters Should Pay Us For Dumping There by Ann Hancock The Sky Trust is a free-market approach to reducing air pollution that has an interesting dividend: annual payments to all U.S. citizens. Such 'sky rent' could put a $1,000 check in your pocket each

[biofuel] Scary but true, I know we all know what to do with this.

2002-01-17 Thread k5farms
This is never going to make headline news like the CJD prion but never the less people are going to lose out on this deal. But I'm from the neck of the woods that sufferred through the PBB scare in late 1970's, devastated hundreds and few heard of it, though, I'd think some would learn a

[biofuel] OH MY

2002-01-17 Thread k5farms
I'm sorry!! please add my comments to this article, had the wrong article in memomory and I have no idea how to rephrase an article, Please read the following: Suspect Fish Meal Sparks European Food Alert By Michael Hogan HAMBURG (Reuters) - Four European countries scrambled on Wednesday to

RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0

2002-01-17 Thread M Rolan
i made the traslation, you can find it here: http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc to see the biger photos you still need to go to the html spanish version: http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm with my english i don't know if you will understand better the spanish

RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0

2002-01-17 Thread r . p . kurz
could not find the translation when i clicked your site? regrds, roger i made the traslation, you can find it here: http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc to see the biger photos you still need to go to the html spanish version:

Re: [biofuel] BD slightly murky at low temps (35 F)

2002-01-17 Thread r . p . kurz
excuse my ignorance but what is Dipetane and whrer can one get it? regards,roger You can add Dipetane at a ratio of 1:200 and it should help most biofuels. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0

2002-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
i made the traslation, you can find it here: http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc to see the biger photos you still need to go to the html spanish version: http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm with my english i don't know if you will understand better the spanish

[biofuel] New Fuel-Efficiency Initiative Is More PR Than Progress

2002-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
Driving In Circles New Fuel-Efficiency Initiative Is More PR Than Progress by Steven Rosenfeld The Bush administration is giving Detroit a subsidy to develop hydrogen-fueled cars. But if history is a guide, automakers will use the program to cover their lack of any real progress on fuel

[biofuel] U.S. science panel says Detroit can improve fuel use

2002-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/01/01172002/reu_46167.asp - 1/17/2002 - ENN.com U.S. science panel says Detroit can improve fuel use Thursday, January 17, 2002 By Julie Vorman, Reuters WASHINGTON - A National Academy of Sciences panel on Wednesday rebutted criticisms from automakers and

[biofuel] Who Owns The Sky?

2002-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
Who Owns The Sky? We All Do -- And Polluters Should Pay Us For Dumping There by Ann Hancock The Sky Trust is a free-market approach to reducing air pollution that has an interesting dividend: annual payments to all U.S. citizens. Such 'sky rent' could put a $1,000 check in your pocket each

RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0

2002-01-17 Thread M Rolan
try again, is a word file on english, sometimes geocities said that there was a lot of trafic and disabbles the acces for a while, try again an tell me, Àyou get any error? http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [biofuel] copper vessels

2002-01-17 Thread janandjoe
Excellent! -thank you very much Adrian Any further info would be much appreciated - I was beginning to doubt my sanity (again). A Masters research project rests on this idea and the company I work for would love to be able to give added value to the copper cylinders we replace when installing

RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0

2002-01-17 Thread M Rolan
now is in other server, i hope now it works better. english version: http://www27.brinkster.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc spanish version with big photos: http://www27.brinkster.com/manolorolan/quemadorwvo.htm tell me if you are having any problems Manolo rolan Valencia, Spain -Mensaje

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cummins Diesel Engines

2002-01-17 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Cummins Diesel Engines I have 50 cummins engines for sale , low hours , 400 hp vt400 turbo V8 engines Triple Nickles? How much? Joe.

RE: [biofuel] wvo burner v2.0

2002-01-17 Thread M Rolan
opening a valve on the air circuit that lets the air came out the circuit, it reduces the air presure on the burner and reduce the flame, i want to try too with a valve on the oil feed. as soon i have any new result i will post it here Manolo Rolan Valencia, Spain -Mensaje original-

RE: [biofuel] Who Owns The Sky?

2002-01-17 Thread M Rolan
the problem here that the sky puluted is not only owned by us citizens, and the more afected by climate change are the citizens far awey the us, like the ones afected by the mitch, or the starvation, on central america. and still other problem, big american enterprises goes to contaminate

Re: [biofuel] Who Owns The Sky?

2002-01-17 Thread Olga Lange
I think there's an inherent problem with the whole idea of pollution credits and the commodifcation of our entire environment. How have we gotten to the point where we don't think it's absurd to charge rent for the sky? Also, as to who owns the sky, we all do--that all is not just homo sapiens.

RE: [biofuel] Who Owns The Sky?

2002-01-17 Thread AndrŽs Stepkowski
Manolo is right in that the sky does not end at the Big River boundary. The laws of nature (thermodynamics) tell us that mass flows always go in the direction of the more to the less. Heat moves from the hotter to the colder, water flows from the higher to the lower, and unfortunately, pollution

Re: [biofuel] BD slightly murky at low temps (35 F)

2002-01-17 Thread rmcphe8888
In a message dated 01/17/2002 2:04:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: excuse my ignorance but what is Dipetane and where can one get it? regards, roger Roger: It is available from Bob Pond at Combustion Technologies 1-800-993-6370. You add it at the

Re Dipetane - was Re: [biofuel] BD slightly murky at low temps (35 F)

2002-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
In a message dated 01/17/2002 2:04:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: excuse my ignorance but what is Dipetane and where can one get it? regards, roger Roger: It is available from Bob Pond at Combustion Technologies 1-800-993-6370. You add it at the

RE: [biofuel] Who Owns The Sky?/off topic but worth it?

2002-01-17 Thread Dana Linscott
Andres, It is anybody´s wild guess when dollars will begin to obey the laws of nature. Andydownsouth Sadly the very concept of currency allows the accumulation of unatural amounts of wealth. Without chits one would be unable to squirrel away more wealth than one had a natural ability to spend

[biofuel] Fuel Cell Efficiency

2002-01-17 Thread MH
After doing the math I see a conflict addressed below \/ (was) Subject: Re: [biofuel] Steam powered bike The web page, entitled:Efficiency of Fuel Cells subtitle: Fuel-Cell-Powered Electric Car when doing the calculations; 80 percent - efficiency of the electric motor/inverter

[biofuel] Re: Cummins Diesel Engines

2002-01-17 Thread motie_d
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too spent at least an hour reading that. Very interesting, also interesting that they can engineer a 290 HP engine to put out 700 HP max, without losing any mileage, though when you're pulling 40 tons I guess more HP

RE: [biofuel] Who Owns The Sky?/off topic but worth it?

2002-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
It is anybody´s wild guess when dollars will begin to obey the laws of nature. Andydownsouth They do, once you ignore the spin that says otherwise. The winds of free trade quite naturally favour the ships with the biggest sails. Free market forces naturally drive goods towards those

[biofuel] hydrogen powered cars - am I missing something?

2002-01-17 Thread jmwelter
I always like to post those tough chemistry questions since I am a chemistry major in college right now, and the current one is one I believe I asked a while back, but got no response. In a car powered by a fuel cell where hydrogen is essentially the main fuel source, or solely the fuel

RE: [biofuel] Who Owns The Sky?/off topic but worth it?

2002-01-17 Thread r . p . kurz
GOD owns the sky and i'm afraid that he's not too happy with our stewardship of it. kind regards roger kurz Andres, It is anybody«s wild guess when dollars will begin to obey the laws of nature. Andydownsouth Sadly the very concept of currency allows the accumulation of

Re: [biofuel] hydrogen powered cars - am I missing something?

2002-01-17 Thread Brian Dickinson
You might get some answers here. Found it a while ago while looking for other ways to power engines. First topic is the previously mentioned skateboard car with pictures. -Original Message- From: jmwelter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:57:43 - To:

Re: [biofuel] hydrogen powered cars - am I missing something?

2002-01-17 Thread jetoth123
You ask the question of a fuel cell burning hydrogen. Your error is in the question. A fuel cell combines hydrogen and oxygen in a chemical reaction not in combustion to produce electricity, heat, and water. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [biofuel] hydrogen powered cars - link to url

2002-01-17 Thread Brian Dickinson
Sorry missed the link http://www.hfcletter.com/ -Original Message- From: Brian Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:18:46 +0800 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] hydrogen powered cars - am I missing something? You might get some answers here. Found

Re: Re Dipetane - was Re: [biofuel] BD slightly murky at low temps (35 F)

2002-01-17 Thread rmcphe8888
In a message dated 01/17/2002 10:44:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry Richard, no attachments allowed on this list. Suggest send the info by email, if it can do without graphics (no html either). Keith just trying to be helpful. I have been in the energy

[biofuel] Mercedes/overnight/SVO/VEG-Therm

2002-01-17 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Hello All: Tested my Mercedes 300TDT left on SVO overnight (on purpose...really!). The VEG-Therm starts amperage draw starts off slowly and takes about the same time to come up to full power heating as it takes for the glow plugs to shut off. So, they were both on at the same time...no

Re: Re Dipetane - was Re: [biofuel] BD slightly murky at low temps (35 F)

2002-01-17 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Richard In a message dated 01/17/2002 10:44:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry Richard, no attachments allowed on this list. Suggest send the info by email, if it can do without graphics (no html either). Keith just trying to be helpful. It's

Re: [biofuel] hydrogen powered cars - am I missing something?

2002-01-17 Thread Patrick McBrady
JM, I believe that when hydrogen is used in a fuel cell it is not burned but recombined with oxygen and the recombining of the two produces electricity that will run the electric motor like in the fuel cells used in space. Patrick M - Original Message - From: jmwelter To:

Re: [biofuel] Mercedes/overnight/SVO/VEG-Therm

2002-01-17 Thread HDirkx
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Re: [biofuel] hydrogen powered cars - am I missing something?

2002-01-17 Thread robert luis rabello
jmwelter wrote: In a car powered by a fuel cell where hydrogen is essentially the main fuel source, or solely the fuel source, what is used to burn it? Oxygen in the air. It may sound like a dumb question, but the atmosphere is 80% nitrogen. If air was used to burn hydrogen, then