Thanks Kirk, some useful quotes I hadn't seen.
But where's David Pimentel? Depopulation is his big scene, much more
so than dissing corn ethanol, he's worked at it tirelessly for
decades, it's been influential and effective, he's a leading figure.
He's funded and enabled by Big Oil (see archives).
Where's Lester Brown? DoA/Ford/Rockefeller's man in India who helped
launch the Green Revolution there (ask Vandana Shiva or Walden Bello
what they think of that), which he just shrugs off now, when he's not
boasting about it, the visionary environmental prophet who advises
Congress, is revered by the Washington Post and so on, and constantly
spouts Pimentel's depopulationist line. His dire predictions never
hit the mark but he keeps right on doing it. Some more perceptive
people put him on one side of a coin with Dennis Avery and the Hudson
Institute (see archives) on the other side. Which interests helped
get Lester Brown off the ground? (Also Big Oil, see archives.)
The list cites Paul Ehrlich but not wife and partner Anne Ehrlich,
how they work together, and where their funding comes from, which all
needs saying (Big Oil once again, see archives).
There's nothing about the hive of depopulationists at work in the
Peak Oil movement with its population reduction agenda - many of Peak
Oil's leading lights are Big Oil men (see archives).
It's too broad-brush. For instance, it doesn't try to distinguish the
spinners and the spun, they're all painted evil. Is whoever compiled
this list (unattributed) 100% certain that his/her computer isn't
spewing out viruses and spam along with their emails without their
knowing it? They'd be one of at least 60 million people if it were.
Would they all be just as much to blame for that as the creeps who
wrote and spread the viruses in the first place? If a man-made killer
virus pandemic broke out and started decimating populations
worldwide, would we blame the soon-to-die carriers as much as the
conspirators who created the virus and released it? Are all the
people on this list of quotes puppet-masters, not puppets?
It's also too black-and-white, as if people are cardboard cut-outs.
Kissinger, for instance, can be witty, wry, self-disparaging, funny,
sarcastic, wise, very perceptive, idealistic, pragmatic, utterly
cynical, and downright evil, and no doubt much more. Including this
quote on the list shows (proves?) what?
The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.
-Dr. Henry Kissinger New York Times, Oct. 28, 1973
Maybe it would have meant one thing if he'd said it to Harold Geneen,
another to Augustus Pinochet, yet another said to Nixon, but it's
sourced to the New York Times - did he tell the reporter that or
what? No context provided, the citation looks valid at first glance
but it's hard to check it without at least a headline.
Why are the citations so poor? Many aren't sourced at all, only attributed.
Lists like this need value added.
Without it, poke it cautiously with a long stick - look for
consistent patterns not only in the quotes but also in the quoting.
Eg, while lacking so much essential information, why is such
superfluous detail included as that Congressman Larry P. McDonald was
killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviet
Union, while relevant info is left out, like who he was talking to?
This is his quote, the last in the list:
The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a
one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the
same tent, all under their control Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do.
I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope,
generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.
How many people will read that and not come away with the idea, even
if only at the subconscious level, that McDonald's subsequent death
was part of the Rockefeller conspiracy, that he was assassinated to
silence him?
The quote's dated 1976, but the aircrash isn't dated. In fact it was
in 1983, and leaving it out means readers aren't left wondering why
the CIA or whoever took as long as seven years to set up a simple hit
for speaking out of line. Of course that's not at all what happened.
How many people know what actually happened, or will go and check?
Remember the Korean Airlines 747 flight number? It was KAL 007. :-)
Lots of people think such things prove stuff. Consistent patterns
you know.
Another of the quotes: Our philosophy is: back to the village, says
Dr. Arne Schiotz, World Wildlife Fund Director of Conservation, in,
ironically, in 1984.
Why ironically? We (who became Journey to Forever) probably said
exactly the same thing, also in 1984. Lots of people said lots of
things in 1984. How ironic. I think Jim Worthy and I were saying
something similar here yesterday, and it's not even 1984 anymore (or
is it).
Were we all talking of the same village? Would that be a local
village
