Re: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation
Hey Kenji; I didn't realize you were in Victoria. I have a friend in Ucluelet (near Tofino) who I'll be visiting in the next few months. It would be great to meet you when I am on the island. I am surprised to hear that news from you. I tend to think fondly of the folks in B.C. as being a more environmentally conscious lot than we easterners! Joe Kenji James Fuse wrote: Hi Joe, Out here in BC, the climate is coldly ignorant on all things biofuel. I sent the provincial environment minister an email informing him that I thought the 50% road tax exemption on biofuels was sadly inadequate, and four months later I have yet to receive a reply. The provincial Green leader, Adriene Carr, had lunch a few years ago with a friend of mine with an environmental studies background, and knew nothing of the offshore oil drilling situation here. Despite my distaste for the feds, I do appreciate their alternative fuel excise tax exemption. I have yet to contact any federal green party member, so please keep me posted. I'll try to attend whatever they do here in Victoria (I don't even know who my candidate is! What a bad citizen I am!). Kenji Fuse ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation
Hi Joe; Even though I am on the Green Party executive I am considering voting for Jack Layton in this federal election because he has a better report card on environmental issues than Jim Harris of the Green Party. Terry Dyck From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:40:24 -0500 As some of you may be aware, our federal government in Canada was recently kicked out of the house due to non confidence. The green party just released it's platform announcing that they have a plan to increase tax on dino fuels and exempt biofuels from these increases. As well taxes on industries and products which are environmentally unsound will help raise funds to create 'green collar' jobs. Here is a link to the platform: http://www.greenparty.ca/article34.html~MMN_position=51:22:40.html I am just wondering if any of my countrymen on this list have been in touch with your local green candidate to discuss their stance on home BD production in your local community? The party leader is comming to town this week and I have booked a meeting with him to discuss the issue. I agree with the recent discussions advocating to lie low in tall grass and I do not intend to reveal too much in this meeting but I see it as an excellent opportunity to test the waters and see just how realistic Jim Harris is on the issues surrounding energy. Obviously he is not receiving campaign funding from that sector so it will be easy for him to make fantastic claims but I want to see how much thought he has actually put into the subject. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation
Ok Terry; I never intended to discuss where to vote on a forum like this. My purpose was really to see if anyone on the list has any involvement at the political level with respect to home biodiesel production since I believe it is or soon will be on the radar screen of the law makers. You have my curiosity now though as to why the NDP gets a better score. I have to admit that I dismiss the NDP offhand as much as the other official parties and therefore don't bother to know much about what they promise.I never believe any of that crap anyhoo, and I don't believe in representative government as a democratic process so I always vote the protest. I wish the green party would get official party status though. Perhaps you could email me offlist as to why Jack Layton deserves a vote. This is not the place for it unless it pertains to alternative energy issues. Joe Terry Dyck wrote: Hi Joe; Even though I am on the Green Party executive I am considering voting for Jack Layton in this federal election because he has a better report card on environmental issues than Jim Harris of the Green Party. Terry Dyck From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:40:24 -0500 As some of you may be aware, our federal government in Canada was recently kicked out of the house due to non confidence. The green party just released it's platform announcing that they have a plan to increase tax on dino fuels and exempt biofuels from these increases. As well taxes on industries and products which are environmentally unsound will help raise funds to create 'green collar' jobs. Here is a link to the platform: http://www.greenparty.ca/article34.html~MMN_position=51:22:40.html I am just wondering if any of my countrymen on this list have been in touch with your local green candidate to discuss their stance on home BD production in your local community? The party leader is comming to town this week and I have booked a meeting with him to discuss the issue. I agree with the recent discussions advocating to "lie low in tall grass" and I do not intend to reveal too much in this meeting but I see it as an excellent opportunity to test the waters and see just how realistic Jim Harris is on the issues surrounding energy. Obviously he is not receiving campaign funding from that sector so it will be easy for him to make fantastic claims but I want to see how much thought he has actually put into the subject. Joe ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation
"...with respect to home biodiesel production since I believe it is or soon will be on the radar screen of the law makers."Ifthere is already some overlap with respect to fuel for your home and your vehicle (i.e. diesel) and dye is used to differentiate one from the other, what happens when the overlap includes the food supply and the number of places to getfuel rises sharply.Will lawmakers really know how to fairly tax fuel?(IMHO) I think the Green Party is showing an understanding of something that should be a foregone conclusion-- that's if the public wants to take alternative energy seriously.I think the only wayStates will be able to fairly tax it's citizens in order to maintain roadways is through a use tax, adapting the technology already in use at automated toll stations. Assuming tax payers will make their own choices on fuel and that choices are available, the lower prices due to competition will pay a portion of that use tax instead of going into the pockets of robber barons.I know this scheme isn't squeaky clean. It kinda ties into our earlier discussion on the transportation departments proposal for a tracking system. If there is another scenario, I'd like to learn about it.Mike Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Terry;I never intended to discuss where to vote on a forum like this. My purpose was really to see if anyone on the list has any involvement at the political level with respect to home biodiesel production since I believe it is or soon will be on the radar screen of the law makers. You have my curiosity now though as to why the NDP gets a better score. I have to admit that I dismiss the NDP offhand as much as the other official parties and therefore don't bother to know much about what they promise.I never believe any of that crap anyhoo, and I don't believe in representative government as a democratic process so I always vote the protest. I wish the green party would get official party status though. Perhaps you could email me offlist as to why Jack Layton deserves a vote. This is not the place for it unless it pertains to alternative energy issues.JoeTerry Dyck wrote: Hi Joe;Even though I am on the Green Party executive I am considering voting for Jack Layton in this federal election because he has a better report card on environmental issues than Jim Harris of the Green Party.Terry Dyck From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:40:24 -0500As some of you may be aware, our federal government in Canada was recently kicked out of the house due to non confidence. The green party just released it's platform announcing that they have a plan to increase tax on dino fuels and exempt biofuels from these increases. As well taxes on industries and products which are environmentally unsound will help raise funds to create 'green collar' jobs. Here is a link to the platform:http://www.greenparty.ca/article34.html~MMN_position=51:22:40.htmlI am just wondering if any of my countrymen on this list have been in touch with your local green candidate to discuss their stance on home BD production in your local community? The party leader is comming to town this week and I have booked a meeting with him to discuss the issue. I agree with the recent discussions advocating to "lie low in tall grass" and I do not intend to reveal too much in this meeting but I see it as an excellent opportunity to test the waters and see just how realistic Jim Harris is on the issues surrounding energy. Obviously he is not receiving campaign funding from that sector so it will be easy for him to make fantastic claims but I want to see how much thought he has actually put into the subject.Joe___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green party to exempt biofuels from taxation
Hi Joe, Out here in BC, the climate is coldly ignorant on all things biofuel. I sent the provincial environment minister an email informing him that I thought the 50% road tax exemption on biofuels was sadly inadequate, and four months later I have yet to receive a reply. The provincial Green leader, Adriene Carr, had lunch a few years ago with a friend of mine with an environmental studies background, and knew nothing of the offshore oil drilling situation here. Despite my distaste for the feds, I do appreciate their alternative fuel excise tax exemption. I have yet to contact any federal green party member, so please keep me posted. I'll try to attend whatever they do here in Victoria (I don't even know who my candidate is! What a bad citizen I am!). Kenji Fuse ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
